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Horus:
We have to start a new thread to answers all this questions.
How did Africa get its name?
What is the true definition and history of the word Africa?

Even if you switch the name around and call Africa THE KINGDOM OF AZANIA it doesn't change the premise of the question being asked.


Morpheus says "Africa is a word. What matters is the connection the word implies"

Answer my question!

Horus:
They are the Pygmy Negritos of the Andaman Islands (part of India)

The question was are they 'black" people, Asian or African and does your FIght for the emancipation of all black people include them.


If so then How so?

If not then why not?

IS "black" therefore synymous with African and vice versa. If so Why?

if not then why not?

igbo2011:
Aren't those women Sudanese? Also I am including all blacks around the world and anyone who is willing to die for Africa like Gaddaffi!! They talk about Gaddaffi alot in this page. He is for Africa and wanted to unite us.

Nope those women are native to Asia.

So it includes "white people" like Sa lassie if they are willing to die for Africa.

Correct?

igbo2011:
@morpheus24
Yes, all blacks unite around the world. We are all in the same boat. Discriminated in America, England and we treat foreigners like royalty in our countries. Yes, it is more about money then class, but still we need to love each other more. No more divide and conquer.

you do know that technically those people are not African and if you include them then you have to "technically include" non African Blacks like Dravidians.

So which is it "African" people or "Black" people??

igbo2011:
THe revolution is starting. Go to these pages:
https://www.facebook.com/pages/THE-REUNION-OF-BLACK-FAMILY-WORLD-WIDE/137580649597223?ref=ts
http://www.conelle.net/

Does that family consist of these people too. I am just wondering?

[quote author=sa_lassie link=topic=802250.msg9556514#msg9556514 date=1321294923]Yes, exactly.
Yes, this is what we were discussing a few days ago. I'm not going to allow myself to be dragged into all of that. Better to be part of the solution than to be the problem.[/quote]Be ready for the insults. Names like "white liberal", "white devil", Alien from another planet, Saboteurs, Oppressor, Imperialists, evil doers, will be thrown around.

[quote author=sa_lassie link=topic=802250.msg9548594#msg9548594 date=1321211787]I realize this a Ghanaian perspective and as it says about the “black race”. What I dislike is this notion that being African is synonymous with being black. Africa is a geographical location. It’s not a race or ethnic group. There are Arabs, Berbers and whites amongst others. When someone talks about “black Africans”, then they are referring to the black people of Africa. When they say “Africans” that means all of us. Not recognizing this only leads to further division when we should be striving for unity.[/quote]Unfortunately you are talking to hard headed militants who view the world as a "survival of the fittest" paradigm where its us against them and similar to their primitive animal kingdom cousines, find favor in clinging on to the concepts of "our kind". They find solice in its social constructs which gives meaning to their miserable human conditions.

Save your breath.

MandingoII:
Which means it is a FLAWED writing. Africans wanted those Guns and Alcohol and was all to willing to sell of their Tribe and the next villages tribe to get more of it.

Lets keep history in perspective and TELL ALL THE HISTORY.

Yep. Thats what them teachers in your schools have been told to teach your 'silly" black azz. If we share the blame around maybe we can get the AA recenting the Africans.

When will you understand that Slave trade was initiated by mostly Slave raiders and Dubious Kings who got lewed by the ornaments the "whites" flashed in front of them.

The African populous did not share in the bounties of this despicable practice nor did they gain any rewards from it, infact many families suffered the atrocities of being seperated from their kinfolk, Ergo they have nothing to do with Slavery in the context in which it was practiced in the WEST you "Numskull".

Re educate yourself Dumbazz

[quote author=sa_lassie link=topic=799835.msg9533546#msg9533546 date=1321038218]It's sad that some people still feel this way. When it comes to SA in particular I have seen how some other black people put them down with the whole "white masters" nonsense. I loathe these psychological games and it upsets me how little credit some people give to black South Africans. They chose to forgive what was done to them. Not for us, but for themselves. Forgiveness brings true freedom. They chose freedom over revenge. The future over the past. Most importantly, they chose South Africa! Instead of punishing their fellow citizens, they taught us a lesson in humility and humanity.[/quote]Black consciousness therefore seeks to give positivity in the outlook of the black people to their problems. It works on the knowledge that "white hatred" is negative, though understandable, and leads to precipitate and shot gun methods which may be disastrous for black and white alike. It seeks to channel the pent up forces of the angry black masses to meaningful and directional opposition basing its entire struggle on realities of the situation.

One of the most fundamental aspects of our culture is the imprtance we attach to Man. Ours has alwasy been a Man-centered society. This attitude to see people not as themselves but as agents for some particular function either to ones advantage or disadvantage is foreign to us. We are not a suspicious race.

Steve Biko. I write what I like p.g 33 and 46

stmarc32:
Just basically summarizing your ideology from what i've read in most of your postings, You failure to deduce from what has transpired in libya that the WHITE MAN is trully and really the black mans enemy except a few and i use that word few loosely,

What ideology is that may I ask?

If you mean by my " failure to deduce" I do not recognize instances of Greed, the power of Corporate Capitalism, systematic interventions by "western powers" to maintain superiority and ensure a stable supply of much needed resources to power their consumption habits. You are sincerely mistaken.

The foolishnes is in regrugitating these same principles of greed that have been at work for near 300 years since the advent of Industrialization inthe West and the idea of puffing up your chest, coming here on Naira land, giving us history lessons 101, calling the "west" the enemy, grabbing your D.i.C.ks by your hands and attempting cyber bravado stances like that of Iran's is anywhere close to solving deep psychologically rooted issues "black' people face in advancing forward under their own terms I might add.


Picking a fight is easy to do. learning how to avoid one and still come out on top takes a more brilliant mind.

MandingoII:
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ignore poor broke fools like morpheus. He the delusional one. He talks about himself in the 3rd person. so you know he is not dealing with a full deck.

I don't get it . First your homo aZz is on Cap's D.I.C.K then its off it, then its on it again. Make up your mind peanut head.

PS. Stop trying to sound smart will ya and go play with your 22's.

They spinning N**Ga they spinning !!!!

stmarc32:
@Morpeheus i hate hurling insults at people on here but u have to be one of the dumbest person on here if u havent noticed with Libya your economic garbage u spill on here won't work,

Who in the world are you and what the hell are you talking about?

MandingoII:
lol

Morpheus will eat white folks SH. IT if they threw it at him.

That black SELLOUT nigger is desperate for WHITEYS attention.

that's fugged up.

Ah I see I have excited the black militant rats that creep around here on nairaland. It seems its come get free cheese day.

Welcome my so called black brothers who are seeking our emancipation from mental slavery and all that yada yada that keeps you up at night.

How many times do I have tell ya'll numsksulls, You can't win this battle of the minds because its predicated on sentimental feelings of anger, hopelessness, hate and fear.

Pay attentin meat heads you saying the same sh846TH from 1950's, 60's and 70's black power movements. Nothing really new coming out of those neaderthal brains

keep beating your chests like angry baboons, comeback here tomorrow and tell us what change you have made to lifes of one of your so called brothers.
FAke AZZ internet warriors!!!

Morpheus says" There is a difference between knowing the path and walking the path."

FREE YOUR MIND!

@ SA Lassie

"BEING AFRICAN GOES DEEPER THAN YOUR SKIN TONE OR YOUR BIO-GEOGRAPHICAL ADAPTATION INHERITED FROM YOUR ANCESTORS!

Don't let anybody tell  you otherwise.

ya hear!

^^^^
Hahaha!, do I detect a stint of jealousy. Boy Please that house negro stuff belongs in 60's propaganda. Update that SH%&T!

Your hate filled agendas in the guise of "black dignity" and "black solidarity" versus what your "books" have programmed you into believing are the ideologies of black or White "liberal" thinkers will fizzle away over time in the minds of the those you hope to win to your camp.

You wanna know why? its cause it borrows from the same tactics and sentiments aspoused by your so called "White adversary" seeking to bamboozle people into 'priviledged" states of mind and steer "oppressed" peoples in action. It pins its success on promises of vengeance, retaliation, revolution, prosperity and "glory days' to come when in reality it does not deal with the required meta physical and metamorphical transformation of the human thought that must preced such change.

When will you understand. Evolution is the Key!!


Morpheus says, " You do not truly know your enemy until you fight them"

cap28:
mostly Afrikaans - what does that mean?

i noticed you bolded afrika - i have a feeling that you're a nigerian pretending to be a white south african.

stay focused numskull. She bolded it because I mispelled it in my original post plus many Afrikaaners trace multiple roots from French hugenots, Dutch, British and Portugese settlers so she can be MOSTLY Dutch AFRIKAANS or a combination of the others.

Intuitively from her name SA lassie one can deduce that she is likely has "English descent as well.

I could be wrong though!

Divide and conquere the minds of weaklings.

Nice tactic. We aint buying it.

^^^

So judging from the trend Malema will soon be appointed Minister.

I suggest he be appointed "Minister of Tourism", What do you think? he's quite a brand image for SA isn't he?

[quote author=sa_lassie link=topic=799835.msg9524250#msg9524250 date=1320945462]I’m white and these guys don’t represent me or any of my white friends. We too are repulsed by them. We think they are backwards and an embarrassment to the rest of us. They have an inferiority complex and many tend to be unemployed and blame other races for all their troubles in life instead of doing something that is actually constructive. I’ll hand it to them though, they are good at what they do and they are joining ranks internationally. Their aim is to divide, because they really do not have the numbers! They want you to think that they represent the views of most whites. They want you to hate. Meanwhile, they want white people to fear other races and their accomplishments. This is how they try to increase their numbers - division through hate speech and fear. If you think that a certain race is out to get you, you will move closer to your own race and view others as the enemy.

I’m not going to waste my time trying to have an intelligent discussion with these guys on those sites. I’d rather talk to you directly and tell you that most of us don’t share their views. Unfortunately, they have already convinced some of you that they are the majority. A victory for them. I’m not going to allow haters with their sinister agendas to manipulate me and I hope you see through them too.[/quote]I hope Cap28 is listening.

SA lassie . Are you Afriknans?

THe guy was getting too loud. had to be silenced but he's made good friends and I doubt we've seen the last of that comrade.

cap28:
typical attitude of the cowardly nigerian - too foolish and ignorant to deal with the issues raised in the article - only good at tryign to attack the bearer of the message - no wonder it was so easy for the europeans to conquer us - with weak punks like you lot in our midst we have no hope.

Bearer of message. Ha!

Its called borderline Obsessive compulsive disorder with a stinch of extreme paranoia and a dab of grandiose delusionary mania

frosbel:
^^

Do you sleep dreaming about white people and their racism

Wow !!!!

Abeg help me ask am that question again!

Kai dan buru ba!

^^^

History lessons 101

Clap for yourself!!

Parisgoodman:
bros i nor fear o, but i prefer 2 die lying on my bed than 2 die with one chemical wey i inhale o. How u see am

You rarely have a choice of choosing how you exit this world so stop worrying about things that are beyond your control.

Unless you become President of Iran in the near future.

Then we all die. Nuclear holocaust. Earth is ravaged. We wait for hundreds of years underground and after the earths atmosphere has cleared we climb back out and build a new world.

What do you expect. You dey fear?

justwise:
Before you starting throwing unnecessary insult at me let me tell you that i went to Zimbabwe when Zimbabwe was pretty good, went to school there and was there when Zimbabwe went down in any possible way you could  think of, i went to Zim Jan 1999 and left Sept 2003, we did our shopping in SA then as many shops in Zim are empty, the sanction started biting, no foreign currency to import anything, electricity and water rationalised, no fuel, Libya was the only country in Africa that came to their rescue then, Zimbabwe export beef to Libya and get the much needed foreign currency but that did not last long as Gaddafi demanded some land for exchange for foreign currency which Mugabe refused.

I too was in  Harare on an assignment a few years back, came across a number of Nigerians hiding out in Zim waiting to cross into SA. Many of them lamenting how they prefered Zim to Nigeria anyday. Imagine that! A supposed hellhole where everyone is trying to escape from. If your last visit was 2003 . You need to update your travels then.

justwise:
Yes some Zimbabweans were killed trying to enter SA illegally, many who managed to get in were deported and beaten badly by South Africans.

Where did this happen specifically?. What border crossing? How many were killed again? you must be speaking of them boer farmers who were man handling border jumpers when  they caught them running through theri farmlands and setting local workers and villagers on the zims.

There are approximately 11 milliion Zims living in Zimbabwe. With the mounting scarcity of jobs and unemployment rates of 26% in SA, about 1/3rd of that Zim population reside inside of SA and less than 0.5% of that population have been butchered by the SA's due to conflicts and pressures  on job allocations and welfare distributions during Mbeki's tenure extending into Zuma's time. Many zimbaweans have been giving legal status to reside and work in SA despite these moounting social n economic pressures post the may 2008 riots

I'd say that s a pretty good " keeper thy neighbour" policy don't you think

justwise:
This is strange, what Western interpretation? The cause of HIV or the cure of HIV? The same ''west'' donated more FREE HIV drug to African countries than any other Asian and African country, where did you think that those antiretroviral drugs being distributed in many African countries including Nigeria is coming from? How many Africa countries can afford to give free drug to their citizens?

Of course it was donated. Thats how you get access to the markets in the first place. Mbekis's only error during that whole debacle was his lack of knowledge concering the relationship between HIV and AIDS fueled by alternate scientists and information he felt was being misconstrued by so called 'concerned' peoples with suspect  motives.

The reason behind his reluctance to accept overwhelming statistical data was again because of the mounting pressures by Phamarceutical companies on his government to accept what ever "DATA" was coming from their side. A common tactic used by such entities to gain access to markets before any such "FREE" drug negotiations were done by mostly NGO's

justwise:
Mbeki did not resign of his own will, he was called back by ANC because of corruption allegation against him and his miserable attempt to get Zuma jailed for some political reasons.

Tell me anywhere in Africa where thats a likely scenario. A leader relinqushing power because he was called upon to do so. You don't find that quite odd?

justwise:
Zimbabwe went down the drain and still trying to recover from it, his softy softy approach did not work, some Zimbabweans died trying to cross to SA, SA put up barbed wired fence at Zim/SA border to stop Zimbabweans crossing, those who managed to pay smugglers to get into SA were hunted down by angry South Africans who accused them of increasing crime rate and taking their jobs.

I doubt you've ever been to  Harare, talk less of anywhere in southern africa to make such comments  in comparsion to Nigeria. You must picture hoards of refugees jumping fences and running amok on the borders. I urge you to get on a plane and go see it for yourself. 

Ps. on all my trips to South Africa, since May 2008 the Zimbaweans are pretty much intergrated into the cities and townships, gettig housing and stipends, making a living in pretty much every sector you can think of down there. This your "hunted" down rubbish is media hype. Again Get on a plane go see for yourself insteadof regurgitating rubbish you are seeing on T.V. and reading on wikipedia. See Video

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paniki:
Leave Thabo guys. His brother Moeletsi has criticised him enough.

That over educated brother of his seems to be jealous of his brother. Thabo's woes are a consequence of his spending most his struggles outside of the continent. He was seen as a western educated elitist who was not in touch with the people and so they opted for the semi literate wanna be zulu King Zuma. Who seems quite blank and docile as a sitting president.

I will always choose brains over bronze any day. Its a long term sustainable choice.

justwise:
Mbeki played down the cause of Aids & HIV in SA and did not make it a priority hence the massive increase in number of pple affected.

Thats what the going "western" intepretation of the story is. Those with insight would realize that it was a counter tactic to create an atmosphere were an epidemic would not be hijacked for profit reasons.

justwise:
He watched with his softy softy approach while Zimbabwe went down the drain, Zimbabweans will not forgive him for that, visit after visit to Zimbabwe yield no significant result.

Its the "zimbabwe was a bread basket" story scenario again. Zimbabwe is not going down any drain. Its a test case for and alternate approach to western intevention in Africa. Only time will tell what becomes of her.

Meanwhile this softy softy leader's country has absorbed close to 4 million Zimbabwean refugees. A consequence of his so called inaction. He must be really daft not to know that Zimbabwe would adversly affect his own country in terms of inflows of refugess and migrants. Wonder why he allowed that to happen?

justwise:
He dined and wined with the same Western power while in office and did not speak out against them, now he is out of office he suddenly realised that the West is playing a negative role in Africa. rubbish.

He's been whining and dining with western powers long before you were born. I would wager he knows a little more about them than you profess. He's always known the wests antics and has played to their weaknesses for the long term benefit of his country.

The only known siting African president to step down for the betterment of his people and country.