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PoliticsRe: South Africans React To Ghana Closing Nigerian Shops (TWEETS) by morpheus24: 12:36am On Aug 19, 2020
TMKsouth:
1. I'm glad u did not attempt to deny Nigerians come with filth and grime every where they go, including the Johannesburg CBD.
That point is moot. The Johanesburg CBD generally became run down soon as the Jews left and the township and village people moved in.

TMKsouth:
I also cannot believe that u defended your links to human trafficking and prostitution by referring to the 80s and 90s. YOU ARE REALLY SICK - but I already knew that: u a Nigerian.
How you link those two simply exposes your educational level.

The point was to show that prostitution and drugs existed long before the arrival of Nigerians but you are to dense to extrapolate that information.

TMKsouth:
2. The counter of arrogance and boastfulness is NOT "cowardice, timid, meek" as you out it. Learn about the SA principles of UBUNTU - like your president chastised u on his recent visit here (When in Rome...). That way u won't rub your hosts off the wrong way.
Ubuntu has nothing to do with humility and references more so ones "humanity". You really need to go back to school ne!

TMKsouth:
3. Nigerians are killed by police in SA bother because of profiling but because a majority of u are indeed very evil people (including u for that prostitution comment). And here's the proof, snitching on each other because of jealousy. Notice how all Nigerians are involved in the drug trade. angry angry angry
So when we snitch to the police their job is to come Kill the drug dealer instead of arrest and deport him.

See what Apatheid mentality has done to your people.
PoliticsRe: South Africans React To Ghana Closing Nigerian Shops (TWEETS) by morpheus24: 12:14am On Aug 19, 2020
TMKsouth:
If u were real smart u'd know about SA's massive black middle thats actually the engine of the country's economy. Instead u choose to focus on the poor townships and shacks.
55 million blacks? What percentage are middle class? what percentage are the underclass.

a 1st world surrounded by a third world. I rest my case.

TMKsouth:
Why don't u talk of the rich townships and the large amounts of blacks living in the surburbs? Talk about the fact that black university graduates have quadrupled in 2 decades and that the black middle class is now far larger than their white and Indian counterparts.
55 million black people

5 million Whites

5 million coloreds
0.5 milliong indians.

Black middle class increases, boom we now have a 1st world nation.

Go back to school dummy?

TMKsouth:
Give yourself time to google that and stop masturbating on poor townships and shacks, which are spilling over with your Zimbabwean and Mozambican cousins from the North all crawling under barbed wire to come rub shoulders with your far superior and pampered South African idols from Mandela's land. cool cool
I thought ZIms were your kin, aren't you guys all from the same Nguni and East African migrant groups who speak Bantu languages. You must read your history ne!

Don't let artificial lines fool you.
PoliticsRe: South Africans React To Ghana Closing Nigerian Shops (TWEETS) by morpheus24: 12:07am On Aug 19, 2020
IronGalaxy:
All the things you marked " Entrepreneurship" other African nationalities are also partaking in those , hence I say don't flatter yourself by saying you're the most " threatening" you aren't special
Prey tell me where is the nearest Zambian restaurant in Sandton mall or the closet Rwandan club in sunnyside, I would like to attend.

Please stop showing your jealousy here.

TMKsouth:
Dog walker for white people - I wouldn't put that past Nigerians seeing how you guys love white people..look
When you spot the next one please come broadcast it to us here otherwise you know what nationalities engage in that

TMKsouth:
And lastly patting yourselves on the back and narcissism are two different things
You call it narcissism. I cal it over confidence. Tis semantics my dear man.
PoliticsRe: South Africans React To Ghana Closing Nigerian Shops (TWEETS) by morpheus24: 12:03am On Aug 19, 2020
kgr28:
it's matrix....still flat azz and shapeless.
When a man sticks his kini kon inside of a woman is the sweetness any different if her nyash is big or flat I ask you?
PoliticsRe: South Africans React To Ghana Closing Nigerian Shops (TWEETS) by morpheus24: 12:02am On Aug 19, 2020
TMKsouth:
1. You mean LOUD. Anyway, if you've never been to the Joburg CBD you will not be bothered by Nigerians.
The point here is that the Joburg CBD is the central business district where hustle and bustle takes place.

TMKsouth:
If u've ever witnessed the chaos and grime that comes with Nigerians in those areas you will know why they stand out. But then again, as a Nigerian I don't expect you to be bothered by grime, litter, noise pollution and incessant drug marketing and cat calling.
Your CBD in the 80's and 90's was a den for run away ladies who came to the cities to prostitute themselves to Foreigners, I don;t see you complaining about all the mixed race kids and fatherless children that were born from the unholy consumation.
TMKsouth:
You and I also know that it is entrenched in your culture to be boastful and to show off. So u call the negative attention to yourselves even when you are poor.
So you prefer people who are cowardice and timid, humble and meek. If you are looking for those I employ you to visit the synagogue or churches ne!

TMKsouth:
2. I guess if love-vendor.ing, dealing in drugs and stolen cellphones and laptops and running dodgy beer halls is your idea of entrepreneurship then it would make sense why u are not offended. Why be a restaurant waiter when u can be pushing drugs and other illicit products for much more money?!
The percentage of this illicit activity of Nigerians is not up to 10% of the entire population of Nigerians in South Africa. if you want me to do the numbers for you I will be very happy to.

TMKsouth:
You should ask yourself why so many of you die at the hands of police in SA - far more than any other foreign nationality in the country. SHADY UNDERWORLD DEALINGS.
This is the same phenomena that happens to African Americans in the US, so many of them die at the hands of police because the buffons use a sterotype to label an entire set of people. Please don't ask me to justify stupidity.[/quote]
PoliticsRe: South Africans React To Ghana Closing Nigerian Shops (TWEETS) by morpheus24: 11:53pm On Aug 18, 2020
IronGalaxy:
Problem with you Nigerians is you hype yourselves wayy too much.
If a man does not pat himself on the back first, who will. This is a non issue. Why would this annoy anyone who doesn't already have an inferiority complex.

IronGalaxy:
How are you most threatening? Or visible for that matter? East African migrants like the Somali are also visible I could argue. The only thing that I could say makes you people visible is your penchant love of attention, loudness, showoff nature etc not entrepreneurship, the other African nationalities you mention are quiter and in nature.
Hence the use of the world "visible". Again if this annoys you simple don't hang around Nigerians or turn the other cheek. How does this take money from your pocket. You see yourself!

IronGalaxy:
You sell jeans on pavements, you are barbers etc same with any African nationality I see in SA. You aren't that special
Selling jeans-Entrepreneurship

Barber-Self employed- Entrepreneurship.

Club owner-Enterpreneurship

Guest house owner-Enterpreneurship

House boy in white man;s house- Zero

Dog walker- Zero

Construction worker- Zero

I rest my case!
PoliticsRe: South Africans React To Ghana Closing Nigerian Shops (TWEETS) by morpheus24: 11:48pm On Aug 18, 2020
kgr28:
HIV azz...so your women have flat azz and shapeless.
NO our woman have strong Nyansh from all the hardship that exists under the tropical sun in the equator that is why when we see soft and big nyansh you inherited from your Khoisan ancestors we are drooling over it at first sight.

SA ladies are nice in the beginning but many of them are from bad backgrounds with drunken fathers, multiple baby daddies, loosness, alcoholic households, unfaithfulness.

Any naija that messes with them long term is taking very big risk of divorce down the line.
PoliticsRe: South Africans React To Ghana Closing Nigerian Shops (TWEETS) by morpheus24: 11:43pm On Aug 18, 2020
TMKsouth:
Wassup? cool NTA is the perfect representation of Nigeria. It's metaphorical actually. grin

DSTV should only stream that miserable third-world channel into Hillbrow (the Nigerian mecca), the rest of us sane people should not be paying for it in our bouquets.
Please note SOuth Africa is a 1st world surrounding by a third world, don't ever forget that fact!

PS, a simple look at your townships and the amount of rapes that go on there will bring your SABC down to that third world level in a second.
PoliticsRe: South Africans React To Ghana Closing Nigerian Shops (TWEETS) by morpheus24: 11:41pm On Aug 18, 2020
IronGalaxy:
You can argue till you turn beige blue, the fact remains, Nigeria and Nigerians generally have a bad reputation in many places around the world, no need to count countries.
Good point you make here however "general" observations as you mention above are "stereotypes" and are only comprehended by elementary minds like most of your SA folk who have never crossed the borders of Limpopo.

There are 180 million people in Nigerian not even 50% percent of them fall under this stereotype but you are too stupid to acknowledge this FACT.
PoliticsRe: South Africans React To Ghana Closing Nigerian Shops (TWEETS) by morpheus24: 11:37pm On Aug 18, 2020
kgr28:
yet your guys are drooling over them the irony. They are willing to give up your clean holly women for HIV one's.
Na that BIG SA NYANSH they cause am, it is not that you guys are pretty in the face.
PoliticsRe: South Africans React To Ghana Closing Nigerian Shops (TWEETS) by morpheus24: 11:36pm On Aug 18, 2020
TMKsouth:
I thought u found my threads mischievous and divisive, and yet here u are on PAGE 17 still feeding the fire. Sound hypocritical? cool
How can I be mischievous in my own backyard.

Not possible.
PoliticsRe: South Africans React To Ghana Closing Nigerian Shops (TWEETS) by morpheus24: 11:35pm On Aug 18, 2020
IronGalaxy:
South Africa, Africa's most cosmopolitan country, where you find Greeks to Ethiopians and yet Nigerians (of course) are the ones who offer most competition to South Africans of all migrant groups, Nigerians are the only ones worthy of being jealous of..mind you these are the same Nigerians who can't even develop their own country..


Yep sounds about Nigerian.
Point 1. Compare apples with apples so as far as being "cosmopolitan" lets just exclude your "european" population because their history, culture and economics are not the same.

Point 2. If we are to focus on African migrants alone, the most threatening of the set are Nigerians, for the following reasons:
1. They are the most visible.
2. The most enterpreneural (close to zero Nigerian works as a house boy, bus boy, gardners, dog walkers etc)
3. The most independent. They do not ask for handouts.

You and the your fellow Ghanians hate this fact and therefore want zero competition. If this were not the case then again these Nigerians would be Negligeable much like the congolese, The rwandans, The zimbabweans, Zambians, Malawians who are a majority domestic workers, dog walkers, bar tenders etc in your country.
PoliticsRe: South Africans React To Ghana Closing Nigerian Shops (TWEETS) by morpheus24: 11:05pm On Aug 18, 2020
IronGalaxy:
Lol,it seems "jealousy" is a knee-jerk reaction to everything with you people..such a simple people
What else could it be. You do not want the competition. The presence of these "Nigerians" constitutes that otherwise they would be negligeable.

Your government has the power to stop giving these Nigerians Visa's. Why don't they?

Your government has the power to not issue work permits to these Nigerians but they keep dong it. Why don;t they stop?

Your government has the power to fund Home Affairs to increase deportations of criminal elements that are Nigerians, Why don't they.

because they are busy sharing tenders and embezzling money while they distract you with a semi skilled worthless Nigerian on the streets of Joburg and drill it into your psyche that these are the people ruining your country.

You my friend are a buffoon!

Bantu education is very bad!
PoliticsRe: South Africans React To Ghana Closing Nigerian Shops (TWEETS) by morpheus24: 5:12pm On Aug 18, 2020
OasisT:
Although I would have left you alone to fool yourself more but I think you need to be tutored and help you to see things in the right perspective.

If Nigeria is a country of over 200million people, what is the population of your country? What you don't understand is that less than 10% of Nigerians are overseas and the other ones are not dying of hunger. The complains of Nigerians are only based on the resources the country is blessed with and what they are getting. I am proud to be a Nigerian.

In case you are not told, a south African company named ESS was chased out of Chevron location ( EGTL, Escravos) because of fraud and sharp practices. One of your biggest brands( MTN) was discovered to be engaging in fraudulent acts and the company was heavily fined. So, you still think you have moral right to mock Nigerians?

Few months ago, you country was down economically that you needed a Nigerian economist to help you out. My country is blessed with human resources more than all other countries in Africa combined. Tell me 10 great persons to ever "come out" of southern Africa and I will mention 100 from Nigeria. Thread softly !!!

In every country there are criminals but that don't make those countries less than others. While others believe in Pan Africanism, I don't because of people like you. Up till this moment, Ghana is no match to Nigeria and that they know. Your President is worse than ours but we are less concern

We may not be the country of our dream but every Nigerians are optimistic of the future of the country to be better. In case you don't know banter is part of our lives and the reason you read yabis on this platform and others. You fought the whites while Nigeria fought civil war ( in which the wound is yet to totally healed)

Ask yourself why are many nationals troping to Nigeria daily and still refuse to live if the country is bad as you read. Goggle to know more about these cities before you reply.

Abuja
Kano
Lagos
Enugu
Port Harcourt
Uyo
Ibadan
Onitsha
Kaduna
Abeokuta
Calabar.

Thanks
Bros leave that Iron galaxy guy. He is one of those SA's who doe snot know anything happening outside of his country and just soaks up twitter news.

The boy is a dummy!
PoliticsRe: South Africans React To Ghana Closing Nigerian Shops (TWEETS) by morpheus24: 3:31pm On Aug 18, 2020
AreaFada2:
Fact is Africa will never have unity.
Nigeria should immediately abandon Africa First policy and look inward for the next 20 years. Restructure and fix the moribund system first.

When Nigerians start to live better, they will stay in Nigeria. That is how you earn respect.

We cannot continue to play expensive big brother role at a loss.
Well said.

Tell those boyz to come back from SA and Ghana and with immediate effect cut diplomatic relations.
PoliticsRe: South Africans React To Ghana Closing Nigerian Shops (TWEETS) by morpheus24: 3:22pm On Aug 18, 2020
YEBOmadiba:
Unfortunately for u I don't have the urge to collect a million screenshots of SA AMAZINGNESS cool cool cool

But in the meantime, ask yourself why there are a million NIGERIAN REFUGEES in SA. grin grin grin That will save me time from trying to prove a point.
There are a million of us there to come steal your women from you, infiltrate your society and destroy you.
PoliticsRe: South Africans React To Ghana Closing Nigerian Shops (TWEETS) by morpheus24: 3:19pm On Aug 18, 2020
IronGalaxy:
it's always thrown so cheaply, " jealous" jealous" .. jealous of what exactly? Who in their right mind becomes "jealous" of a nation that we leave behind in virtually all indices?
You are an idiot. You are jealous of the success of the people in your country and not the country itself.

A foreign people come into your land and become rich, your people are still there looking for jobs.
PoliticsRe: South Africans React To Ghana Closing Nigerian Shops (TWEETS) by morpheus24: 3:17pm On Aug 18, 2020
TMKsouth:
https://mobile.twitter.com/uLerato_pillay/status/1295055196402442240
This TMKsouth, you are an instigator and always want to start trouble on Nairaland.

My eyes are on you!
Music/RadioRe: Burna Boy’s "Twice As Tall" Album Launched In London (Video) by morpheus24: 8:42pm On Aug 14, 2020
Where is that foolish AKA wey dey pick fight with Oluwa Burna!
CultureRe: Ibo, Hausa And Yoruba Are Not Indegenous Africans by morpheus24: 10:23pm On Aug 13, 2020
donnie:
morpheus24,

I'm done with you, no comment until you prove each of those sources wrong with equally ancient historical sources.
Don't roam around the internet picking up junk put there by fake Jews who control practically every mainstream media in this wicked world.
Is it my time you want to waste?
I already did but you are too thick to see it.

1. The sources you quote are pre the discovery of DNA that corroborates migration patterns.

2. You are misconstruing the lines in those excerps. There is no mention of Bantus migrating to Africa from the Levant, what is being said in each of those write ups is that there were indeede "JEWS" from the levant who migrated into Northern Africa and then into the IBerian Pennisula, Once the Arabs were driven out , these Sephardic jews were expelled out of Europe into colonies possesed by England ie. ST thomas and other protectorates in Africa. There was a simulataneous event of Slave trading that was occurring in West Africa at this time and somehow you join the two together.

You are indeed a great fabricator.

Again DNA can trace migratory movements that is how I know these people below are not African even thought they look it.

CultureRe: Ibo, Hausa And Yoruba Are Not Indegenous Africans by morpheus24: 10:18pm On Aug 13, 2020
donnie:
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LOOK, these are the same Jews that were killed during the inquisition in pain and Portugal and buried in the most cruel manner in a city called Lagos in Portugal... sound familiar? Guess their DNA? E1B1A of course! Mainstream media called them enslaved Africans.... Yeah right... grin

The bones are dated to the same period of the inquisition when original biblical black Jews were expelled from Europe. They forced to convert to Christianity or be killed, enslaved, of shipped to the West African coasts.
Any one with and IQ above 80 can see that you are dyslexic. When you read that bones were found of dead Africans in Europe you extrapolate that information to mean they were Jews then in the same breath another writer tells you Jews migrated into Africa and assimilated with the people that already existed in Africa. i would call that as having a very wild imagination.

So i am guessing the Africans who inhabited this region before the arrival were E3b1A carriers who spoke another language and then the jews that now migrated into Africa from the Levant speaking Bantu languages were also E3b1A at the same time and they just came down melted together with this original Africans and then subplanted the original Afrians language family and made them speak Bantu. HAHAHAHAHAHa!

You my friend have an IQ that is below par.
CultureRe: Ibo, Hausa And Yoruba Are Not Indegenous Africans by morpheus24: 10:11pm On Aug 13, 2020
donnie:
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Okay, Kindly prove those ancient sources wrong and leave stories. When you are done, with those, I can provide more authoritative sources.
You're used to lies. Truth is difficult for you to comprehend.
Your story collapses upon itself each time you present more write ups. which is why I say you are extracting information from Ben Amins cult.

1.The write up insists that there were people who lived in the congo before the arrival of these black emigration Jews, Who were these people? Hamites, Bantu, the first wave of Jews who began to speak Bantu?

2. The writer is accurate in stating there were groups of people who migrationg from west Asia to North Africa who were dark in complexion as are many original Yemenis people who live in the same region today. Bejas are also Dark skinned people.

Also notice how the writer differentiates these groups from the "negroes" a fact i explained when I mentioned the problem these writers had when they began to discover other peoples that inhabited the interior of Africa and were trying to differentitate based on different appearances.

in comes the discovery of genetics which supercedes this physical designations that goes into the blood and very core of humans to discover the links that truly bind people.

If you are not aware genes have been transferred continious across Africans that lived in border countries with other continents hence the physical differentiations from their counter parts in the interior of Africa. These 17th century and 18th centur writers were not aware of this and so second guessed their best based on physical observation.

Again if your writer is correct in his analysis. Who are these people then, I know you are scratching your head trying to figure this one out eh, may Yah will reveal it to you soon.

CultureRe: Ibo, Hausa And Yoruba Are Not Indegenous Africans by morpheus24: 9:58pm On Aug 13, 2020
donnie:
My friend I know who Joesphus is and who the Hammites are, dont try to educate me, educate yourself.
If you know who Josephus is and you believe he knew what he was categorizing then who are these people below according to Josephus's classfication?

Negroid? Hamite?

CultureRe: Ibo, Hausa And Yoruba Are Not Indegenous Africans by morpheus24: 9:56pm On Aug 13, 2020
donnie:
Niloltic Kushite, makes no difference, they're one and the same Hammites occupying same region.

So in other words the word of YAH has failed. He will not find 144,000 that will be sealed before final destruction comes upon the earth because the seed of Israel have mixed or vanished from the earth or they are white in your so-called levant? You lie.. and you lie to yourself only. Let God be true and every man a liar

And your constant reference to the lying mainstream media for info regarding the Jews or so-called levant makes me consider my conversions with you a waste of time.

But for the sake of others let me school you a bit....

Ancient historical sources and journals have in good authority that ancient biblical Isrealites migrated down to sub-saharan Africa. Many others were shipped to the Coast of Guinea (West African coast), Angola, Sao-Tome, Kongo etc. from Spain and Portugal.

Remember your earlier reference to the name Lagos as Portugese. Yes, they put the slaves there and at other locations along the coasts same regions where they later returned to take slaves and ship to the Americas. Prove my sources wrong if you can and please do so with ancient sources, Not 20th or 21st century.
The quotes that are highlighted in the excerps you put there are being interpreted "out of context" to fit your narrative. What those articles narrate are the expulsion of Sephardic Jews who lived in the Iberian pennisula and also communities in North Africa as well. the date you see 1471 coincides with the spanish inquisitions just after christendom had won back the territories of the Iberian pennisula and North africa from the Berber/Arab incursion.

Again the date is in the 13th century which is the 1400's, another direct extraction from Ben ammins cult like hebrew israelite jargon. These dark skinned Portuguese you refer to would and could not be E3b1A as there were already West African populations that lived in the areas anyone was expelled to. Those excerps also document the beginnings of the trans atlantic slave trade. who's victims were mostly West AFrican ethnic groups.

You are indeed a fabricator of information. These events are documented history from the 13th century.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alhambra_Decree
CultureRe: Ibo, Hausa And Yoruba Are Not Indegenous Africans by morpheus24: 9:44pm On Aug 13, 2020
donnie:
So in other words the word of YAH has failed. He will not find 144,000 that will be sealed before final destruction comes upon the earth because the seed of Israel have mixed or vanished from the earth or they are white in your so-called levant? You lie.. and you lie to yourself only. Let God be true and every man a liar
DNA IS A FACT. IT CANNOT LIE.

IF the test your DNA sequence and that of your sibling, you will get a 50% match from one of your parents every single time they run that test.

If they test you against your cousin , there will be a 25% hit every single time.

If they test against your Grandfather it will be a 25% match.

No ones' DNA has vanished from the earth, they simply have been absorbed into a representation of different peoples today. I can give you numerous examples of this.

The people of South of America carry the remainder of the DNA sequences of all the Native American/Indian groups that existed there thousands of years ago. These people no longer look like the indians that existed thousands of years ago and do not even speak the languages that existed back then but the aboriginal population still lives in the DNA markers with this "Hispanic people"


You my friend are trapped in religion and cannot see what is presented to you as fact. You can believe what you want about the 144,000 if you want I cannot stop you but it will be futile for you to refute fact with fiction. You will fail every single time.

What we see is what we can believe. I travel in the physical realm which authenticates facts, you travel in that which requires "faith"

And your constant reference to the lying mainstream media for info regarding the Jews or so-called levant makes me consider my conversions with you a waste of time.

But for the sake of others let me school you a bit....

Ancient historical sources and journals have in good authority that ancient biblical Isrealites migrated down to sub-saharan Africa. Many others were shipped to the Coast of Guinea (West African coast), Angola, Sao-Tome, Kongo etc. from Spain and Portugal.

Remember your earlier reference to the name Lagos as Portugese. Yes, they put the slaves there and at other locations along the coasts same regions where they later returned to take slaves and ship to the Americas. Prove my sources wrong if you can and please do so with ancient sources, Not 20th or 21st century.[/quote]
CultureRe: Ibo, Hausa And Yoruba Are Not Indegenous Africans by morpheus24: 9:36pm On Aug 13, 2020
donnie:
Niloltic Kushite, makes no difference, they're one and the same Hammites occupying same region.
Hamite is a misnomer coined by Josephus who used one of the three sons of Noah to categorize the dark skinned people around him. historians later He was limited in his understanding of the peoples that populated the entire earth at the time so used bibilical references to name the people around him.

Historian later usurped this name to describe the dark skinned people that lived around Egypt and East Africa put found themselves in a conundrum when they crossed the Sahara to find other types of Dark skinned peoples who's languages were very different from the so called "Hamites" they encountered. They therefore forged a new identity for these new groups of people anthropologically coining them "Negro' which is just a latin word. meaning "black". They even ran into more problems as they ventured further into Africa and noticed there were other groups who did not resemble the so called new category they designated "Negro". The Khoisan-bushmen were red-brown skin with very different craniometric and physical features from these negroids and since they were stuck in their own faults, names these new group of people "capoids" to different them from the Negroes.

Nilo-saharan people are named after the Nile river and the Sahara desert that cuts across Africa.

Kushites are named after the Kingdom of Kush ad also encompass people who speak Afro-Asiatic langauges including chadians and Hausa people as their languages are derived from the original Kushitic people.
CultureRe: Ibo, Hausa And Yoruba Are Not Indegenous Africans by morpheus24: 9:19pm On Aug 13, 2020
Olu317:
1.


2. Factors such bas that you highlighted as having dark skin but of Asian features. This view isn't constant with mutations in human beings,according to research on written works,which support the fact that continuous humanoid development had been timeless.
1. I said they have Africoid features but are genetically Asian when you test their YDNA, the MTdna and their complete autosomal DNA.

2. I don't what you mean by humanoid development. We are humans and not "human-oid". A humanoid would be something that is trying to imitate a human and can only come after human developtment and not before it.
CultureRe: Ibo, Hausa And Yoruba Are Not Indegenous Africans by morpheus24: 8:46pm On Aug 13, 2020
donnie:
It's not me you're quoting there pls.
It has been corrected.
CultureRe: Ibo, Hausa And Yoruba Are Not Indegenous Africans by morpheus24: 8:37pm On Aug 13, 2020
Olu317:
I am.not fan of the current information as opined by you about the present day Hebrew because, having European dna connection do not make them non Isreslis because of f factors beyond your understanding.
1. No where do I say the so having European DNA in you makes you a non Israel in reference to those who occupy the Jewish state of Israel.

2. What are these factors beyond my understanding?

Olu317:
Furthermore, contrary to your view, Yoruba and others are seemingly link via dna in way due to intermarriages but are different in other deep analysis. Read books on genetic variations.So, do not over rate such view of yours as 100% right.
I have no idea what you just said above. Who are Yoruba different to in this other deep analysis?

PS construct your thoughts more cohesively, they come off disjointed.
CultureRe: Ibo, Hausa And Yoruba Are Not Indegenous Africans by morpheus24:
donnie:
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Bantus/Isrealites in Somalia are a very small minority. Studies have shown percentage of E1B1A which is the popular Isrealite DNA to be very low, less than 2%. That's because the vast majority of Somalis are Nilotics. You may call all of them Somalis but they know the difference and in Somalia, the Bantus are marginalized till this day. In Nigeria for example, Yorubas, Igbos Efiks, Ibibio, Tiv etc share same Y DNA haplogroup E1B1A, meaning they have one father. But most Hausas and Fulanis of Nigeria do not.
Let's educate the people shall we, You don't have to reply to me directly, its inconsequential.

This is not the answer to my question however we will tackle the above one at a time.

1. First and foremost Somali's are not Nilotic peoples. They are Cushitic peoples that speak an Afro-Asiatic language closely related to the Oromo peoples of Ethiopia. T

2. The Bantu's you refer to which are the largest minority group within the Somali family bring the E3b1a male haplogroup into the Somali grouping via the Arab slave trade. This group of Somali bantu's autosomal DNA is however very much Somali in TOTALITY!. What this means if you don't understand is that the male ancestors of these Bantu slaves married some Somali women and therefore produced offspring who are indeed genetically Somali irregardless of the politics within that grouping.

3. Please note this fact. Haplogroup A, B and E3b1b are older mutations than E3b1a. What this implies is that the ancestors of present day copts (ancient egyptians) their neighbours to the south i.e. Nubians(Sandawa, Bejas); Nilotics (Sudanese Nuers,); Cushitics (Somali, Ethiopians, Hausa) were present before the E3b1A allele (West African-Niger congo- Bantu groups.) emerged This means Bantu's are the youngest of all Africans to arrive on the scene. Bantu's are however the most successful of all these groups to populate the continent of Africa which is why they constitute the most prevalent Phenotype.

4. Yoruba, Igbo, Efiks and Ibibio are closely related to each other and do share the common male ancestor who carried the E3b1A mutations, however all West Africans and All Bantu people do not carry this YDNA marker. Many West Africans carry other YDNA variants.

In conclusion, if we backward engineer mutations it shows thatE3b1A is a purely West African mutation which means it is derived and was born in the West, If it was born in the Levant at some time in history and then travelled down to West Africa it would have left its mark pre- any slave trade. This is the reason I keep asking you to give concrete time lines of this movement and if there was one wave or multiple waves.

You will try to circumvent this fact by probably saying that Israelites were charged not to interbreed with other groups, however this would be a false attempt simply because there were 12 tribes of Israel, of the 12, 10 disappeared into the DNA of various groups of people in the Levant such as the Samaritans, East Africa such as the Beta Ethiopians and possibly the Lemba and West Asia. The remaining Kingdom of Judea that was destroyed by the Romans dispersing the remaining peoples across the area as well.



donnie:
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But like I said before, we do not rely 100% on DNA. DNA is not god. There are other even more reliable sources like the people's Oral history, migration, culture etc. It's not difficult to find ancient Biblical Hebrew cultures and traditions among Isrealite communities in Africa.

The people may not even know who they are. Because bantu ancestors many times hid this information for their own safety. The scriptures prophesied that it will be so and that YAH's people will be scattered and would forget who they are.
This is the same script by Ben Ami from the US. You are reading corruptions of his teachings.

Genetics is fact. It corroborates movements of people across the world. It is a blood signature that cannot tell lies or fabricate stories. It does not rely on folktale and somber stories of which you continue to pass as face. If Bantu peoples ever emanated from the Levant their marks would be left there centuries later. it would have left its mark on its way to West Africa. It did not. No fossils tested indicate this Haplogroup existed there pre- the slave trade.

donnie:
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As for that picture, we cannot judge 100% based on a picture. But interacting with them, I can easily tell. However, if I must answer, I can say those in the first and third pictures look like Bantus/Isrealites but the guy in the middle of the first pic looks Nilotic. I may be wrong tho.

It could be difficult because of this mixing but what we do is, we go to where we know YAH's people are (beyond the rivers of Ethiopia) and preach. Only the chosen will answer the call.

Zephaniah 3:10
From beyond the rivers of Ethiopia my suppliants, even the daughter of my dispersed, shall bring mine offering.

John 10:27
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
The pictures are confusing you I know. Let me shed more light on them so you understand the reason.

These people inhabit the papau nee guinean islands and the Andaman islands off the coast of India. They appear to be Negroid in appearance, however they are genetically disimilar to an African in every way possible. In other words they may look African but they are not. How do you explain this phenomena.

Let me explain to you, waves of Ancient Human beings migrated out of Africa over thousands of years. Some of these humans already adapted and retained the physical apperances of african people i.e. Dark skin, wooly to kinky hair however their genetics did not remain the same. The mutations continued to change. These groups of people depicted in these pics are actually closely related to the general Asian population you see around them.

They look physically Africoid but are genetically similar to Asians. The point of this is to show that genetics does not necessarily confer physical attributes which is a premise you are using to construct your story. E3b1A equals a specific look of people. This is the reason I asked you what the biological difference is between E3b1A and E3b1B but you avoided that because you did not understand the question and revert back to your circular reasoning by running to scripture to authenticate your sayings.

If you wish to delve deeper in Bantu origins then let me know. What I do know is that Hebrews no longer exist. Their DNA has been absorbed into a combination of modern peoples that exist today much like every other evolutionary biological process.

As for the current inhabitants of Israel who claim ancestry to ancient Hebrews well that could be the truth but they are also European as far as their DNA is concerned and their claim to their Jewishness as an Ethno-religious group is faulty because a vast majority of people across the world who cut across other ethnic groups are able to do so as well including Arabs.
CultureRe: Ibo, Hausa And Yoruba Are Not Indegenous Africans by morpheus24: 3:40pm On Aug 13, 2020
donnie:
All praises to YAH!
You remind of Ty for real. You should listen to him for real. He is your Nigerian brother. lol

Remember this saying Donnie,

Truth is a generally accepted outcome or reasoning while fact is a proven truth...in other words every Fact is True but not all Truths are facts.



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