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MC USMAN

i see you dey trtavell well well. Good for you. keep up the good work . WEST AFRICA ALL THE WAY.

IT just means the people are not ready yet and a majority of them still hold to the belief that marriage is between a man and a woman.

Things do change though, as we witnessed a day ago.

I for one support it.

There are more imprtant things to do with the money . How can we be hosting world cups when we can't even assure citizens of constant electricity in any state. Hte decision to withdraw is sound in my opinion. the issue is will the cut back money be used to do something that will benefit the country as an equivalent of the opportunity cost of not hosting the event.

If someone is always talking about you on their fourms whether good or bad it means you are important.

You should be worried when they stop talking about us. it means we are slacking.

Seun

What is the definition of a TRUE CATHOLIC?


Just wondering?

Ha! Ha! Olabowale. You lost this one. You keep deviating from the point and coming up with excuses left and right when you know in your concience you cannot justify the killing of Apostates in your religion.

Your logic is the Christians do it, the Jews do it so what is wrong if we do it!!
 

Some Logic?

olabowale:
Meteorites are flaming darts thrown by angels at jinns to keep them out of heaven. True? They did not reach to heavens. That will be impossible. But they climb up to higher level, or station. The means that they use in addition to get closer was to mount on top or carry one another, in a link, whereby the rise up. That was before Qur'an was revealed. If you look into Surah Al Rahman, verse 33, you will see that they and men were only challenged to penetrate, if they can on there own, the zones heavens and the earth (between these two distinct places), the atmosphere, the space.

Allah says that they could not be able of their own, except if He permits it. This was long time before space explorations. Today we have space travels, shuttles and other unmanned crafts. But regardless how man can designs and devices, man will never be able to go beyond whare Allah permits.

Man will never be able to get to the first heaven, which is the closest to the earth!

These jinns overhead the message that Allah is one and had no wife or children. True?
This part of the question was treated, earlier. The point is that the evil one told his community, in order to lead them away from the truth the above. But the believing Jinn know better, as they became believers.




The Jinns stealing Information from the Sky before the the Messenger was sent and striking Them with flaming Fire after His Coming


Allah informs about the Jinns when He sent His Messenger Muhammad and revealed the Qur'an to him. Among the ways He protected it (the Qur'an) was by filling sky with stern guards guarding it from all of its sides. The devils were then expelled from the places where they used to sit prior to that. This was so that they could not steal anything from the Qur'an and tell it to the soothsayers, thereby causing matters to be confused and mixed up. If this happened it would not be known who was being truthful. Allah did this out of His kindness to His creation, His mercy upon His servants and His protection of His Mighty Book (the Qur'an). This is why the Jinns said,


(And we have sought to reach the heaven; but found it filled with stern guards and flaming fires. And verily, we used to sit there in stations, to (steal) a hearing, but any who listens now will find a flaming fire watching him in ambush.) meaning, whoever would like to steal some information by listening, he will find a flaming fire waiting in ambush for him. It will not pass him or miss him, but it will wipe him out and destroy him completely.


(And we know not whether evil is intended for those on earth, or whether their Lord intends for them guidance.) meaning, `we do not know if this -- the matter which has occurred in the sky -- is intended for those who are in the earth or if their Lord intends some guidance for them.' They stated this in such a manner out of their etiquette in phrasing their speech, because they did not attribute the doing of evil to anyone and they attributed the good to Allah. Verily, it has been recorded in the Sahih,


(And evil is not attributed to You (Allah).) It used to be that shooting stars (meteors) occurred before this, however it did not happen much, rather only occasionally. As was reported in the Hadith of Ibn `Abbas when he said, "While we were sitting with the Messenger of Allah a shooting star flashed in the sky. So the Prophet said,


(What did you all used to say about this) We replied, "We used to say that a great person has been born and a great person has died.'' The Prophet said, (This is not so, rather whenever Allah decrees a matter in the heaven, )'' and then he went on to narrate the rest of the Hadith which we have already mentioned in its entirety in Surah Saba'. This is what caused them to seek the reason for this occurrence. So they set out searching in the east and the west. Then they found the Messenger of Allah reciting (the Qur'an) while leading his Companions in prayer. Thus, they knew that this Qur'an was the reason for the sky being guarded. Therefore, some among them believed in it and the others became more rebellious in their transgression. A discussion of this has preceded in a Hadith of Ibn `Abbas concerning Allah's statement in Surat Al-Ahqaf,


(And (remember) when We sent towards you (Muhammad) a group of the Jinn (quietly) listening to the Qur'an.) (46:29) There is no doubt that when so many shooting stars began appearing in the sky, it horrified humans and Jinns alike. They were very disturbed and alarmed by it. They thought that it was the destruction of the world. As-Suddi said, "The sky was never guarded except if there was a Prophet in the earth or the religion of Allah was victorious and dominant in the earth.'' So the devils before the time of Muhammad had taken sitting stations for themselves in the heaven of this world and they would listen to the matters that occurred in the heaven.



But when Allah sent Muhammad as a Prophet and Messenger, they were suddenly pelted one night (with the flaming, shooting stars). So the people of Ta'if were frightened because of this and they began to say, `The dwellers of the sky have been destroyed.' This was because they saw the severe fires in the sky and the shooting flames. They began freeing their servants and abandoning their luxuries. So `Abd Yalayl bin `Amr bin `Umayr said to them and he was referred to for judgement among them "Woe to you O people of Ta'if! Hold on to your wealth and look at these guiding stars in the sky.


If you see them remaining in their place, then the dwellers of the sky have not been destroyed, rather this has happened because of Ibn Abi Kabshah (-- meaning Muhammad ). And if you look and see that you can no longer see these stars, then verily the dwellers of the sky have been destroyed.'' So, they looked and saw that the stars still remained, and thus, they kept their wealth. The devils also were frightened during that night. They went to Iblis and informed him of what happened to them. So he (Iblis) said, "Bring me a handful of dirt from every land so that I may smell it.'' So they brought it and he smelled it and said, "It is your friend in Makkah.''


Then he sent a group of seven Jinns to Makkah, and they found the Prophet of Allah standing in prayer in Al-Masjid Al-Haram while reciting the Qur'an. They drew near to him eager to hear the Qur'an, until their chests almost pressed against him. Then they accepted Islam and Allah revealed their matter to His Messenger . We have mentioned this chapter in its entirety in the first section of the Kitab As-Sirah with lengthy discussion. Allah knows best and unto Him is all praise and blessings.



(11. `There are among us some that are righteous, and some the contrary; we are groups having different ways.') (12.`And we think that we cannot escape Allah in the earth, nor can we escape Him by flight.') (13. `And indeed when we heard the Guidance, we believed therein, and whosoever believes in his Lord shall have no fear, either of a decrease in the reward of his good deeds or an increase in the punishment for his sins.') (14. `And of us some are Muslims, and of us some are Al-Qasitun. And whosoever has embraced Islam, then such have sought the right path.' '') (15. And as for the Qasitun, they shall be firewood for Hell.) (16. If they had believed in Allah, and went on the way, We would surely have bestowed on them water in abundance.) (17. That We might try them thereby. And whosoever turns away from the Reminder of his Lord, He will cause him to enter in a Sa`ad torment.)

I think you like to hear yourself speak jsut to convince yourself of most of your delusions.

I always wondered how Haldol chases away these Jinn in Mental patients when they say God is talking to them and they are on some sort of mission?

I am guessing the Jinn control the seratonin and dopamine producing parts of the brain.

samba123:
that a non sense idea you should think before you comment like this one

I know! I know before one of your brothers issues a fatwah on my head and threatens to assasinate me.

Mpele:
Where is the giant of Africa (Nigeria). Probably at no: 188

Jealousy is a terrible virus. Even worse that HIV. Chei!

elctroguru:
@babs 787, thanks Jare, I will advice you not to bother yourself too much on Morpheus24 ques because he'll never understand what u mean,

Yeah electro My guy, I am as ignorant as they come. When next you meet a genie that lives in a bottle and can grant you three wishes let me know, maybe I'll ask him to make me as smart as you.

Thats why some of you are crazy enough to fly planes into buildings.

dgreatrock:
hey guys, let's cool it down. we don't need to cast aspersions on each other over denominatons. what is important is to make heaven.

the point i want to make to those who know google so well and forget the word of God is, they should repent. any knowledge that contradicts the word of God is heresy. God's word is ultimate.

those support homosexuals and encourage lesbianism are only telling their parents that they knew nothing, and idiots for ever marrying to give birth to them

The point most people are making here is you should try to open your eyes a little wider and not ignore facts that are true and can be proven. For one stop calling your self an Anglican. It has no bearing on your salvation and anything your church is doing in terms of world matters like homosexuality is only undercover politics and power struggle. Can't you see that?

Angelheart:
Well Mpele, you are not my fav person but, you are right. The virus has been identified and like you always HINTED, its from west Africa. See below:

The mystery viral haemorrhagic fever which killed three people in South Africa has been provisionally identified as an arenavirus, the National Institute for Communicable Diseases and the Department of Health said on Sunday.

"The causative agent of the disease, may be a rodent-born arenavirus related to the Lassa fever virus of West Africa," NICD's Dr Lucille Blumberg said at the Charlotte Maxexe Johannesburg Academic Hospital.

She said tests done by the NICD and the Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta, US, indicated that the disease seemed to be a kind of an arenavirus. The World Health Organisation has also been providing technical assistance.

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=79&art_id=nw20081012152218513C975048

Sorry guys I guess evolution doesn't favour you much. Its all that foreign ( out of Africa) blood you have in you thats causing your quick demise. Better start breeding with West Africans so you can at least have a chance on this continent anc come back into the fold other ise you are doomed to perish. lol

Mpele:
@ N guage

LOL! The reason we don't travel much is that we like our country so much. The thought of leaving my good old Suid Afrika gives me depression. In America there is no Rugby so i'll bored. In Britain the rugby is not as good as South Africa's. By the way all the things that the Americans and the British have, we also have them here. What's the reason of going to London when I have Cape Town.

Stop the f**%$ crap of saying Nigerians like to travel for fun. You're escaping your fourth world, fillthy, dustbin called Nigeria. Like all those neighbours of yours, nothing works there.

Oh by the way on the issue of us licking white people assess, shame! you don't know, these days whites are licking our assess.

The reason you don't travel much is because during apatheid those fools brainwashed you into thinking South Africa was the only civilised place on this planet. When animals are kept in cages for a significant portion of their lives if you eventually free them they will quickly run back into those cages not knowing what the concept of freedom is cause their poor minds have been enslaved far too long for them to realize the difference. Thats why your people are infected with xenophobicolisis.

From the words of the DR. DRE , and I am paraphrasing here "When animals are let out cages, its dangerous to people who look like strangers"

Angelheart:
Only 2 degrees?Hmmmm, Its not reflected in your posts though! Did you buy them?

Angelheart,

You've been hanging out here too long. I am beginning to think you have some Naija blood in you lol

Mpele:
Sad! He must rest in peace

Ode oshi, are you forcing him to rest in peace?

4 every nigerian killed on this planet 10 more are born and groomed to take over the ones who passed so console your souls my brothers/sisters. 150+ million strong.

Go to Onyibosonline to get info on expats my friend.

Oh and another thing, learn to use "OKADA". If youdon't know what I mean . You will.

bawomolo:
foreign affairs please. i see south africans have joined the good ole african way of gra gra politics.

Its cause deep down inside they have no one else to compare to as far as Africa is concerned.

You should be ashamed of calling yourself an Anglican being that the connotation for the word is Church for Anglos or English people. Are you from England , abi did your forefather form the church.

Please what do you mean by ushering in any revival. When the anglican breakaway was formed as a result of King Henry wanting to divorce and remarry and the Catholic church at that time did not condone such act or the breakways that followed because the church ws taxing the hell out of people at that time.

Where is the divine calling in that?

OH BOY I NO KNOW SAY PLENTY SA BOYS AND GIRLS FULL THIS FORUM OH DEY BLAST .

CARRY ON. THIS IS INTERESTING TO SEE ON A NAIJA FORUM

Against it. Another sneeky ploy by the US to interfere in African agenda to protect their interests. I say no. Let them spend the resources on something else. I don't blame Lliberia for giving theri support. they have no choice cause they are struggling right now and even though are aware of the implications are lending support to Africom which they might regret later on.

RSA:
And let me correct the statement that say ANC is spliting,ANC is not spliting,people who are formming this new party are people who where defeated during the ANC leadership election in Polokwane now that they lost on voteS feel that the new leadership is not the real ANC,they are sore loosers who want to govern forever.We gave them their chance and they did their best and failed where they failed,Now we have elected a new leadership which I belief will do much more and take South Africa to the next level,attracting new investors,creating jobs,offering a world class healthcare in public hospitals,improve our educational system,training our police force and providing them with best equipment and knowledge to fight crime.In short creating healthier,safer and happier South Africa.
South Africa will never be a ground where dictators and corrupt leaders are breeded,We have fought aaparheid for years without giving up,lots of people lost their lifes fighting,family where broken,souls where totured and we wont let anyone,even Mandela to mess our beautiful country.We owe this to ourself.

ha! you talk about corruption. i wonder why Zuma's financial adviser was hit with a 15 year sentence for accepting bribes from investors looking for lucrative contracts and you say you will never allow corrupt leaders in your midsts. You are about to vote for one next year. Watch what your precious zulu socialist will do once he gets into power.

The reason he is courting Mbeki to an active role in his campaign next year is to avoid the split which he knows will affect him adversely. I don't know why you guys can't see right through Zuma. He and his cronies will bamboozle you into thinking that he is working for the masses by creating socialist agendas when in fact his plan is to insert as many of his people into leadership positions which will bolster their pockets.

Mbeki was an excellent President post Mandela. The South African econnomy was quite stable during his tenure. His administration was overwhelmed with "entitlement" seeking organizations who believe it was their turn to reap the benefits without putting in the work for it and you accused him of being out of touch. You gusy would actually support a numskul who tells you he washed his privates after having Sex with a HIv infected person and thats all he needs to do to protect himself.

Let there be a breakaway party. In a true democracy the discourse can only bring improvement in the lives of the people if the true agenda of the parties are to serve the people.

Is this the end of the ANC

I say welcome to African politics my bros

Ya'll colores and whites better start advocation for your own country.

All hell is about to break loose.

I was back home for a few weeks and experienced the same. Light for 48hurs in a row , only took light for about 2 to 3huors thruogh the whole cycle. I can't believe it cause I kept on waiting for NEpa to take light and this is lagos oh!

olabowale:
@Morpheus24: Tell us then what ingredient(s) are Angels made from? Thell us what ingredients(s) are Jinns (genies) made from? We already know what human is made from; Soil and Water.

How can I tell you what they are made of, when I haven't seen one. Even in my so called dreams. Abi you have seen one and confirmed from he/she that they used fire to make them.

Okay if Human beings were made from water and soil. What are animals made from?

By the way am I reading it wrong, isn't there some mention of cloth of blood as human ingredients too?

babs787:
Salam all.


I am not trying to create a sort of enmity or castigate Christian as a religion nor ridicule Jesus because Jesus is a prophet of Islam and would always be respected anytime and any day but there is this thing that has been happening and I thought it would be better to nip in the bud and create awareness so that people would not fall for it again.

I am very sure one or two would have heard about stories on how Jesus has been appearing to some people in their dreams and telling them to worship him.

Well, we need to get to the root of it now and I could remember that one of my Christian friend here posted a link where some accepted Christianity as a result of seeing Jesus in a dream and we should ask ourselves, is that picture in existence really that of Jesus?

Well, there is Iblis who is referred to as Satan and was created from fire. This Iblis happens to be the leader of the jinn and I learnt that this Jinn lives up to 200,000 or more and those that doe young dies around 80,000 years.

They were created from fire, lives longer than human beings, have the power to transform to anything they feel like. They are like Human beings as well. They have believers (Muslims), non muslims etc and they come in different.

Jinn can take the form and shape of anything they feel like and travel very fast hence their creation from fire and as result of their ability to take shapes and forms, human beings think and claim that they saw their dead relatives in another country, state and location. There is nothing seeing somebody that died in a location, country or anywhere. Its the handwork of Jinn.

Now, this Iblis uses Jinn to carry out his work and these Jinn have men that they use in accomplish their aim e.g some white garment churches, alfas use them.

Insha Allah, I will create a thread on the life of the jinn and that of the angel.

Back to the issue.

This Jinn has the ability to hear words from Heaven prior to the revelation of the Quran and was chased when Quran was revealed.

With regards to the issue, is the picture of Jesus really Jesus? No far from that, Mary the mother of Jesus rejected it when shown the picture and the jinn said that it is what people believed that the use for them as Jesus.

Now, if they want to convert someone, it normally happen to Muslims. In a dream, they would put the picture there, shining light to it and would tell the person to worship and that would be his last chance.

The person would wake up and felt that Jesus spoke to me and would decide to 'jumb the fence'. It has happened to 2 people I know. One a friend of mine but he is now a Muslim and the other still a Christian.

I had to cut it short because the tory plenty. Muslims should please beware in order not to be caught unaware because it normally happen to those strong in faith.

Does anybody has any similar story to share?

You have quite a vivid Imagination of Jinns made out of fire and evil angels trying to decieve you. Don't you think your mind is playing tricks on you.

monkeyleg:
People, we really must let Mpele have his say, as Vile as it may sound. don't forget we are practicing freedom.

However Mpele I fail to see the benefit of your criticism. In most cases it is not constructive, but rather personal. You talk so much about the bad things that happen in Nigeria yet these same things happen in your country and even @ a greater magnitude.

Corruption, sickness, crime, Under-development are rife in your society, so why pick these failings in my country when they exist in yours. You may not like the boldness of Nigerians, but that is no reason to hate. Just like you said the Americans can be in your face, boastful and all that, but that is no reason for me to hate them.

I am glad you have pointed out the personal achievement of Nigerians, because boy we do excel in what we do. True we have not been able to achieve collective excellence, but boy it is only a matter of time. I personally do not hope for a SA that fails under black rule, but I will really like to see how you guys get on. Is it not a case that you are very much challeneged by the success of Nigerians, and the excellence they attain that you feel threatened? I can understand that if that is the case, and I suspect it is.

By the way the Ghanaians are great people and they see us as competitive brothers. No hate involved and both countries inspire one another.

Go back and re-evaluate your position, it really saddens me to see this Black - on Black hate IT IS NOT NECESSARY

That boy no BLACK oh!