₦airaland Forum

passionate88: Pray tell me, did the niger delta militants bombed mosques and kill muslims because they are fighting injustice?.. Are there no poor people from the west, south, nd east?... Boko haram is an islamic movt. jst like ur izalla, sunni, shia, salaafist, etc... They all believe in the qu'ran and d annihilation of the "infidels".. Piss b unto U..

D problem is that d insecurity has gone out of control- it's now like a war situation and sadly in war no-one, nothing is safe. Yes, churhes and christians are attacked but mosques and muslims are also attacked and killed. Noboby is really safe in war.

gramci: Mr Buka (Boko) Ibrahim (haram), if you are not ignorant you should know that North East gets the largest chunk of the budget. Go through the budget and see the sum allocated to security, 60% of which will be spent in North East.

D 60% goes into d pockets of the top brass security personnel and politicians. D people of the north east get nothing from the Huge security vote. 2012 vote for so-called security is one trillion naira. If 1/4 of that amount were used to address the serious economic situation there that wuold hav gone a long to addressing the security issues. Saying Bukar Ibrahim or somebody else is sponsoring boko haram is trying to run away from the problem.

gramci: Mr Buka (Boko) Ibrahim (haram), if you are not ignorant you should know that North East gets the largest chunk of the budget. Go through the budget and see the sum allocated to security, 60% of which will be spent in North East.

60% budgetary vote on security goes into d pockets of the top brass security personnel and politicians. D people of the north east get nothing from the Huge security vote. 2012 vote for so-called security is one trillion naira. If 1/4 of that amount were used to address the serious economic situation there that wuold hav gone a long to addressing the security issues. Saying Bukar Ibrahim or somebody else is sponsoring boko haram is trying to run away from the problem.

Bukar Ibrahim hits d nail on the head. We hav seen how poverty & injustice led to violence in d Niger Delta. D violence in the north east is largely a product of poverty & injustice and cannot be stopped by more violence. JTF is now becoming a problem than a solution - the same way that NATO has only brought misery rather than succour to Afghanistan. D insecurity in the north east requires imaginative and concerted effort to ameliorate the dehumanising poverty there by all govts - FG,states and LGs. Bukar Ibrahim may hav put it bluntly but he is saying the truth- abusing him on nairaland doesnt alter the truth.

Sealeddeal: Corruption is not our biggest problem.Corruption is one of the symptoms of our biggest problem.have you asked ur self why its the prominent northern who are working against the trial of Farouk? Thats how other regions/ethnic groups will be working to make sure their son who is a criminal is not tried.thats one of the major things militating against Nigeria development.there are others but corruption is a symptom.its not our probs.it cants stop no matter what the tools govt deployed.it can only stop if govt change the present system of govt.

It's good u name the prominent northerners working against the trial of Farouk. Maybe it's the same people that worked for the acquittal of James Ibori in nigeria!

oluface: ABEG SEY NA CRIME TO LIVE AS ONE NATION.. CANT WAIT FOR 2013 TO FINISH . TOO MUCH BLOOD SHEED EVERYDAY. I DEY SMELL BREAKUP

Praying for breakup into how many parts - 36,774 or 250 countries? Better stop deluding yourself of becoming the president if nigeria breaks up and your LGA becomes a country. Your wishful thinking and devilish thought will only lead u to incurable hypertension come 2013. Pray and wish for good so that good may come to u.

oluface: ABEG SEY NA CRIME TO LIVE AS ONE NATION.. CANT WAIT FOR 2013 TO FINISH . TOO MUCH BLOOD SHEED EVERYDAY. I DEY SMELL BREAKUP

Praying for breakup into how many parts - 36,774 or 250 countries? Better stop deluding yourself of becoming the president if nigeria breaks up and your LGA becomes a country. Your wishful thinking and devilish thought will only lead u to incurable hypertension come 2013. Pray and wish for good so that good may come to u.

Let's get this clear: In our law u can only be guilty of an offence if u committed it directly or abetted it or conspired in its commission. Aluu incident is terrible, but no matter the emotions generated only d people who hav a hand in the ugly killings can be held liable in law - religion is not an issue here. Christians, muslims, animists, agnostics, pagans, uncommitted etc who participated in the killing are all liable without exception. Alhaji Walewa may or may not be guilty depending on whether he ordered the killings or paticipated in beating the deceased. There's no sentiment in law; so, if his only "offence" was that he could hav stopped the killers but did not, then he cannot be held liable for d killings. The same thing applies to all d residents of Aluu. Even on the video many of the people did not take part in the bestial beatings but only watched and filmed the gory sight. U cant ascribe guilt to a person when ur only evidence is that he was at the scene of crime. Not all morally reprehensible acts are legal wrongs. One thing this incident proves again is that many people only pay lip service to the teachings of their religion - north, west, south, east its all d same thing.

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Maxymilliano: EFCC has been tracing corruptly acquired properties to ex governors in the past, how many have being confiscated and auctioned to make a possible recovery of State funds?

Vicious cycle: property is recovered,auctioned and money returned to state treasury then looted again.

passionate88: I still want answer to this simple question... Why attack churches and christians if u are fightin against a muslim govt?... Why nt attack mosques (car suicide nt through a lone bomber)?. If boko is political like some people want us to believe, why do they back their actions with verses 4rm the qu'ran?, why FIGHTING for islamic law 2 b implememted across Nigeria?..

Initially all boko haram attacks were directed against the security forces and leading Borno state govt figures. They regarded the attacks as avenging the killing of their members. Boko haram later changed its tactics to attacking not only churches but also muslim clerics who speak against them and ward heads they suspected of telling on them. According to analysts, the attacks on churhes is a strategy to provoke retaliation on mosques with the aim to start a full scale muslim-christian war across d country. As an observer i will say that their strategy has failed because majority of christians and muslims in this country are not interested in senseless killings and violence. People want to live in peace but sadly the govt is not imaginative enough to reign in d violence. D talk of Islamising nigeria we all know is empty talk. Mohammed Yusuf's preaching before d violence started was against all d injustices we see in d society and that gravitated the poverty stricken masses to his group. His central theme was that d system of education we are operating is one of the causes of the ills of our society; therefore, western education has failed society. He advocated a combination of religious and western education. In one of his interviews with BBC he denied advocating end to western education, but insisted that equal emphasis should also be placed on Islamic education. However because of his fiery attacks on western education, people began to call them "Boko haram"(western education is evil).

Gov Babaginda's statement is a political statement; it's not true. D settlement of darul islam was very peaceful until Babangida sacked d place because the residents were open supporters of ex-gov kure, Babangida's political foe. Boko haram started in Maiduguri in 2001 and operated as a peaceful preaching group under Mohammed Yusuf. It continued its activities peacefully for 8 years, with large following across d North East. They were known to hav hobnobbed with ev-gov Sherrif, who appointed Baba Fugu religious Affairs commissioner. Baba fugu was a respected Boko Haram elder known for his views against violence, but was dragged out of his house and killed by police in d crises of 2009. The violence started in 2009 when gov sheriff fell out with Boko haram and started using police to arrest nd kill BH members,sometimes in large numbers. Boko haram then started to acquire arms which Mohammed Yusuf said was for self defence.Thus began d violence we ar seeing today. Gov Babangida, a talkative man who's one of the least performing governor's, is trying to claim political credit by his statement to boost his move to contest for PDP presidential ticket in 2015.

victorD3: Did you mention 2006? Well israel invaded Lebanon and siege their presidential palace but backed down because of international pressure. And who told you other Arabs will support Iran? Its important to understand that secretly supporting someone in a War can never be compared with openly participating. Remember what happened in iraq, all the Arabs where just making noise in media while Saddam was been fished out of a hole like a Rat he was.

Israel will deliver missiles and warheads that will kill multitudes in Iran and muslim across d middle east will not see it as Israel-Iran war but as a war against all muslims.

D myth of invincibility of the Israeli defence forces was buried in 2006 with their defeat by Hezbollah in Lebanon. Whether they claim that d drone was detected in time b4 it was shot down isnt d issue, but what it proves is that Israeli airspace can be penetrated thus putting to rest another myth. If Israel attacks Iran d world will witness d most mutually destructive war in history. While Israel, of course with US backing, will be tempted to use its nuclear arsenal,Iran and d middle east countries that will line behind her hav deadly chemical weapons and will deliver them to Israeli with equally destructive effect. Germ warfare is also a possibility. 2012 is not 1967; its not going to be a walkover. Both Israel and Iran and entire middle east will lay waste in d event of Israel/US-instigated war on Iran.D dog and the baboon will be bloodied. There will be no winners-all will be losers.

Bukola Saraki is at it again. After looting depositors mnoney in Societe General bank and following it with d criminal plunder of Kwara state treasury from 2003-2011, organising a break-in of finance ministry is like a child's play for one of Nigeria's greatest thieves esp since the aim is to remove incriminating evidence of his 8-year criminal record.

I am seeing wedding of the decade.

Saifullah01: i have a question. can me and a friend contribute to buy the animal, and share the reward of the sacrifice? also back ur answers with evidence, kindly.

Yes, you can. The opinion of ulamas is that a number of people can contribute towards the purchase of the animal for ileya and be rewarded. That is the beauty of islam: Allah does not impose difficulty on Muslims more than they can bear. We thank Allah always for guiding us to the light of His religion. Please note that in Islam you are never compelled to do what is beyond your means and strength. The ileya is a sunnah for those who can afford it without having to stretch themselves. May Allah continue to shower His blessings on the Prophet and all of us. I dont hav the reference because of where i am but there a number of respected sites u can visit for guidance eg Islamicfinder.com, ask-imam.net

JTf is killing innocent people deliberately; Boko haram is killing innocent people. Those jubilating on Nairaland over the killing of innocent people should remember that today it is maiduguri but 2moro it may their neighbourhood and they may be d victims. Even an atheist will not support the killing of innocent people but here we are seeing people from who u would hear "I am a child of God" or word like that supporting the most heinous of barbarities.

shymexx: To be honest, NL changed everything I thought Nigeria was... There's too much hatred in that country and I sincerely hope everyone goes their separate ways soon, and sa ve future generation from this never ending imbroglio... We just can't continue in this vicious cycle of hatred and tribalism passed from one generation to the other...

As a student of Nigerian history, I know Nigeria was built on tribalism... Tribalism destroyed the first republic, led to the civil war, and the same tribalism governs how Nigerians lead their daily lives... It's just pathetic!!

Everyone just need to go their separate ways to save future generations..

"Everyone just need to go their separate ways to save future generations." How many separate ways? 36(representing states),774 (no.0f LGs)or 250 (tribes). All the people talking separation are myopic semi-illiterates. If you think they are not u just follow the response to this post.

frosbel: 95% of bibles are in total agreement, no please don't tempt me to talk about the Quran or even ISLAM , trust me I am always ready for this debate as well ,

Let us just say that the Bible , Jesus and PAUL support ONE GOD ONLY , but MEN , especially those wicked evil men in the Vatican have used tradition and paganism to corrupt their Catholicism.


You are a Muslim so I expect you to know much about the Catholic crusades and how they massacred tens of thousands of Muslims, Christians and Jews who rejected their Pagan creeds.

Dont bring Islam in here: The contradictions in the bible which u admit has nothing to do with Islam or muslims.You said "95% of bibles are in total agreement". Is the 5% not in agreement word of man or word of God? Is God contradicting Himself in the bibles? Of ccourse God is consistent in truth so the contracditions are evidence that a whopping 5% (by your own admission) of the bible is word of man. No wonder they keep revising it , even expunging whole portions: if you remove a portion of "word of God" it means you are saying what you are doing away with is not word of God. Now lets hear how you contradict yourself by trying to explain away this fraud of some people writing something and palming it off as word of God. Your pastime of islam bashing is no answer pls.

From this thread it's confirmed that there are different versions of the bible. Someone is accusing the catholics of corrupting the bible; Jehovah witnesses have their version; orthodox hav one, kjv, revised(yes,revised ) international version etc. Are these all word of God? Kai, this is confusion and nothing but confusion.No wonder if one person quotes a verse another person will quote a different verse to contradict it - can God contradict himself? Conclusion: word of man can never be word of God.full stop.

How can u say plane crash averted when d plane never left d ground! After all even if one engine had failed mid-air the other engine(s) are there to stir d plane with. Please moderator this headline is misleading.

How can u say plane crash averted when d plane never left d ground! After all even if one engine had failed mid-air the other engine(s) are there to stir d plane. Please moderator this headline is misleading.

Why d obsession with d imported. 160 million people lets design a master class phone by ourselves for ourselves.

TroGunn: The part of 1 John 5:7 that you quoted is generally regarded as not part of the Bible - it's missing in older manuscripts so it was likely added by Catholic controled translation to buttress the Trinity doctrine. Most modern Bible translations, rightly remove these text - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comma_Johanneum

According to the Bible, Jesus existed before being born on earth so the creation account likely referred to him. It does not make him equal to God. It's clear from the Scriptures that Jesus is subordinate to God. There is only one Almighty God.

"rightly remove these text" and u call your book word of God. What was the status of the words before they were "rightly" removed - word of God or word of man? U hav inadvertently expose d falacy in ur "word of God" - a book which man can choose to remove portions or revise as he pleases - can that be word of God?

ignis: OP,
Please save us this rigmarole. Go and tell it to the birds. For all i
care. If the muslims are really disheartened that the activities of
bokoharam are tarnishing their so called religion, why are they not
showing any concern to cur the menance. Boko harams have been in action
since over five years ago and has claimed thousands of lives (mostly
christians) in the name of islam. Yet not even a single protest to
condemn the inhuman and barbaric act. But a movie that was shot few
weeks ago in America, which most muslims dont even know the title of the
movie has attracted massive public protest and uproar in Nigeria by the
muslims.
I hate reading this type of bias and trashy articles usually written by
an idle person.

The post is meant for people like u with biassed attitude towards islam, but you are not ready to be educated, so continue in your self-imposed ignorance. Whatever your view about Islam is wont affect islam in any way. Painting islam in the negative by Orietalists who brought christianity to Africa has been going on for centuries. But the religion of Allah cannot be stopped by d evil machination of man and jinns combined. Today in the Western countries their people are discovering Islam and converting, something that is alarming to enemies of islam hence d hyping of the negative propaganda even here on NL. On boko haram, every one knows how they had been hobnobbing with politcians and when they fell out they started using religion as a smokescreen to justify their activities. How justifiable is it to blame 1.7 billion Muslims for d actions of a few hundred renegade people? Many peoplr like u claim to follow Jesus but ar hypocrites: we know that Jesus would not approve of d attitude exihibited by u people.

Kslib: [color=olive]Hmmn,it's just a matter of time before this war starts..
Why do people like saying religious stuffs like " Israel cannot be defeated in war and blah blah blah"? I know the children of God a..k.a israelites can never be defeated in battle,but i think the present day isreal is not the one being referred to in the bible.. The isreal referred to by God might mean a " group of people",and not the necessarily the land itself..just saying#
I am a christain,but i don't think the present day isreal gives a bleep about christians/christianity in general..
So abeg make we stop dey support isreal blindly cos we be christians... Lets not be bias based on religion..... If isreal look for trouble,let them be defeated,if iran look for trouble,let them also be defeated...shikena..[/color]

Your post should educate your xtian brethren in nigeria. in Isreal today if a jew converts to xtianity that will be the beginning of his troubles with other Jews who dont care a hoot about xtianity. Mr Banunu, an Isreali nuclear technologist, was jailed 17 years for revealing Isreali nuclear secrets. As he stepped out of the prison gate after serving d 17 years imprisonment, he said "I am being persecuted because i converted to christianity." When Nigerian xtians say Jews are the chosens ones of God are they referring to d jews in today's Isreali who are persecuting xtians and muslims alike- e.g Isrealis kill xtian palestinians as well.

DANILSA: DUMB TOPIC I DID SAY, APART FROM AMERICA, RUSSIA,CHINA AND GERMANY ANY OTHER COUNTRY INVADING ISREAL WILL REGRET EVER DOING SO, APART FROM THOSE COUNTRIES I MENTIONED ABOVE I DOUBT ANY OTHER COUNTRY CAN EASILY DEFEAT ISREAL,ISREAL USES 10% OF THEIR BUDGET FOR AMMUNITION EVERY YEAR,WHERE DO WE START IS IT DRONES,F15,F14, DESTROYERS, SUBMARINES. IRAN CAN ONLY DEFEAT ISREAL IF THEY WERE TO FIGHT ACCORDING TO SIZE OR POPULATION. IRAN IS STILL USING WEAPONS USED BY ISREAL TO DESTROY THEIR BROTHERS 40 YEARS BACK.IF U HAVE TIME GOGGLE IRAN AND ISREALI WEAPON. NEXT TOPIC PLS. THEY CANT EVEN DEFEAT US WITH THOSE TOY DRONES. IF U ABUSE ME , I GO COME BACK COME FINISH YOU.

With all d money you claim Isreal is spending on defence, the Isreali army was roundly defeated by Hezbollah in Lebanon. That defeat marked d end of the myth of invincibility of isreali defence forces. If isreal attacks Iran dont think it will be a walkover because Iran has chemical weapons and d capability to deliver them. Other countries in the middle East may not hav nuclear weapons but all of them hav chemical weapons and there's the likelihood of these countries getting involved in any Isreal- Iran war. Isreal will be tempted to use its nuclear arsenal and the other side will unleash their chemical weapons on Isreal. Mutual destruction is what d world will see. D monkey and the baboon will be bloodied.

D conflicting advice u will get will confuse u d more. 5-6 years u hav been together, so u know yourselves inside out(literally and figuratively). No body knows your wife like you do and so you are d only person to advise yourself on what to do to win her back. What other people say is a guide, though.(You see, I am confusing you too.) Good luck.

D death of any human being is an occasion for sober reflection, no matter what we think of the deceased. When Yusuf was killed some people rejoiced, but his death resulted in even more violence by boko haram. D killing of shekau, if confirmed, may not necessarily end boko haram insurgency given that there is no doubt that they hav sympathizers who may go underground for awhile to re-strategise. D insurgency will not end by killing 1,20 or 10,000 BH members; the end will only come when d root causes are resolved: illiteracy, dehumanising poverty, insensitive leaders, corruption etc. D members still alive hav their guns and explosives as well as training and expertise, and the entire NE is teeming with BH supporters - wouldn't it be foolish to think BH is finished for now. God help us.

All of you making derogatory statements about Nigeria are plain hypocrites. If u dont like Nigeria nobody is forcing u to stay in our beloved NAIJA. LEAVE NOW for good . As for d donation of relief materials to Niger republic, Kano state is free to use its resources anyway it wants. Hyper hypocrites,why do you not criticize d govt of the flood victims' states for not providing relief for their people with all d billions of naira in their coffers.By the way, did u know that Niger Republic is poorer than most of our states.D people of Niger Rep and kano state are one and d same people despite d artificial colonial boundary.