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sagenaija:
God was in effect saying "... dying, you shall die."

Kobojunkie:
I disagree.

Kobojunkie:
Instead I believe God meant that He would perish in the grave meaning He would cease to exist (mind, body and soul) when He closes His eyes on this earth for the last time.

Kobojunkie:
God instituted the condemnation of sin which is death, beginning with Adam, for all those who disbelief God. Adam did die in that day (a thousand years is as a day in the presence of God).

Kobojunkie:
As for the serpents major offence, I believe it was inserting himself between God and His creation. The serpent by twisting God's command, inserted Himself as a god unto man, and man without much hesitation, believed the serpent's words over God's.

MuttleyLaff:
donnie, you who is a konfam phoney, a black skinned African, an impostor, masquerading to be a true born real McCoy Israelite can run, but you don't have any place to hide because I'll hunt you down, smoke you out, run you up and down the hill

MaxInDHouse:
@Muttleylaff
Please tell Blabbermouth anytime you see him that donnie has removed the post, i'm suspecting he can't stand the thought provoking questions!

MuttleyLaff:
https://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/uploads/monthly_2016_09/giphy.gif.7a35352a27f727b143f0dd57caf422f4.gif
The hunter turned into the hunt.
The prey turned round, stood ground and faced the predator, lmso.
The temperature of the chase or pursuit got too hot for his liking

donnie:
1. Yorubakinging and how he boldly and accurately prophesies the Judgments of YAH and the coming redemption of Isolele (Israel) by our BLACK MESSIAH.

2. Muttleylaff and how the hunter finally became the hunted.
[img]https://media./images/48a569c326993c0b4ae59c5296f7df1a/tenor.gif[/img]

[s]It was fun dismantling your white Jesus delusions.[/s]

petra1:
Mut is not gradually but instant or sudden. Check the highlighted below

h4191. מוּת mûṯ; a primitive root: to die [s](literally or figuratively); causatively, to kill: — x at all, x crying, (be) dead (body, man, one), (put to, worthy of) death, destroy(-er), (cause to, be like to, must) die, kill, necro(-mancer), x must needs, slay, x surely, x very suddenly, x in (no) wise.

Man is a tripartite being. He is first a spirit hw has a soul and function in body.

Death is a separation. Eternal death is eternal separation.

At the first death in eden man was still physically alive . At the second death in Lake of fire. Man will still be physically alive but eternally separated and tormented[/s]

LordReed:
Well we shall see, 2020 is just around the corner. It holds special significance for you as well, LoL!

Acehart:
This table you are shaking...

OkCornel:
Nigeria is truly a world power

donnie:
[img]https://media./images/25556bc227c55e60b2807688f15f846c/tenor.gif[/img]

thrillionaire:
Time really flies. It's 2020 and I don't know what to say about this prophecy.

Valkrie:
Lol..2020 is almost ending and we are instead been pushed back to oblivion...this prophecy nah scam...I hope the OP is till on nairaland to witness the blatant lie...my worry is that they would claim holy spirit and God told them and show them and afterward collect monies from their gullible followers to further the work...So pathetic...I am sure the bloody scammer of a pastor have forgotten he ever said such...!!

sonmvayina:
Who is Jesus ...

sonmvayina:
... why does God need a son?

haddeylium:
Yes!. This person has the highest authority.
Only Jehovah is referred to as Almighty (Ge 17:1; Ex 6:3

MuttleyLaff:
I havent asked you about any person that has or not have the highest authority, or whether Jehovah is referred to as Almighty nor anything about "Ge 17:1; Ex 6:3'' so I'll repeat the question.

Is the person who made creation (i.e. all things, the things we can see and the things we can’t see) Almighty, in other words, an All-powerful person?

haddeylium:
Yes!.

livingchrist:
And Jehovah God is also Jesus.
https://www.nairaland.com/6301334/proof-jehovah-witnesses-jesus-jehovah#96827416

haddeylium:
This person has the highest authority.
Only Jehovah is referred to as Almighty (Ge 17:1; Ex 6:3)

EFULEFU1:
If you meet Satan now, what question or questions will u ask him?
Thank u

Fahdiga:
After realizing that the odds he staked wouldn't enter he started singing another tune

petra1:
[s]Of course its instant. God was referring instant death. On the particular day. Man died that day [/s]

Genesis 2:17
. . .for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die

haddeylium:
Yes!. This person has the highest authority.
Only Jehovah is referred to as Almighty (Ge 17:1; Ex 6:3

livingchrist:
yes it is, God Almightiness means he could be anything including making himself less If he wanted.
you are confusing yourself the more, how can Angel's be Jesus companion if he was a little lower than them and also have same nature? The same reason you eliminated the disciples as Jesus companions has also eliminated the angels.
But Jesus called his disciples friends which means companions, rank in this case does not matter.

The question is, was Jesus an angelic spirit? Was he not a man? There is your answer! Jesus companions are his disciples he said so himself

haddeylium:
This is where your get it wrong.
Almighty means All-powerful person, someone that has the highest authority. So, an Almighty God cannot be below anyone.
You're reasonable right?
You're still mixing up Nature and rank
Buhari rank highest in regards to superior authority in Nigeria. But, he has the same nature with all citizens. (He's human after all)

Is Jesus a human in his prehuman existence?

Do you notice these verses
Verse 13, 14
13.But about which of the angels has he ever said: “Sit at my right hand until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet”? (None, except Jesus)
14 Are they not all spirits for holy service, sent out to minister for those who are going to inherit salvation?
is your interpretation same as mine?

donnie:
Even NIGERIA is singing the "second wave song too".

I heard in the news, a new and more easily transmittable (by 70%) strain of the virus is out. So they have tweaked the virus to be more effective

sagenaija:
God was in effect saying "... dying, you shall die."

MuttleyLaff:
Yes, in the original text, when God said, "thou shall surely die", the remark has the meaning translated as, you will die a slow death, you definitely will begin the process of deterioration. Everything, over time, will begin going down and looking south. At the end of the deterioration and organ failings, comes and awaits death.

The mortality clock came alive and started to tick from after the lunge at the fruit and subsequent eating of it

EFULEFU1:
Genesis 3:4-5,22
"^[4]Then the serpent said to the woman, “You will not surely die.
^[5]For God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil”
^[22]Then the Lord God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever”—

1 Timothy 2:14
"And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression."

petra1:
The lie and deception is:
"You will not surely die"

[s]Because God was talking about spiritual death which is a separation from God.[/s] This is FIRST DEATH. So they actually died that day. And they are to be damned forever after judgment which the bible calls SECOND DEATH

Rev 20:14 — Rev 20:15
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire

livingchrist:
[s]Yes they died that day but it was a spiritual death.[/s]

MuttleyLaff:
... some people have the tendency to have homosexual behaviour because partly due to epigenetics, are born from the womb that way.

Others, just adopt to be gay, like for financial reasons or whatnot. Case in point, will be, our own and home grown, Denrele, Bobrisky et cetera

Kingluqman:
So bob wan go Colombia go install silicon puna to en body.
Werey wa n nu aiye oo

livingchrist:
sorry mutleylaff, I take the bible as the inerrant word of God, simply imagining God to be infinite persons is totally unbiblical an illogical at best.

livingchrist:
you hardly understand a thing before responding.
How does all these relate with op?

MuttleyLaff:
The teacher is correct, Satan will in due time get his commeupanuce

For the teacher to react by practically telling her off and ending the class, saying he/she is not in the mood of answering questions any longer is likely because he/she was caught out of depth

Dont judge God's decision(s) and/or choice(s), if you dont understand the reason(s) is an advice I would have given the 13 year old girl.
Would also chip in that one just has to trust God's judgement and God's manner of handling things, as God has everything in control and that there is a method in what is seen as madness.

At the end, so much would have been learnt to make everyone and the world a better place to live in

Would have learnt:
1/ How much to love,
2/ How carefully to live, and
3/ How important it is, to let go of things not meant for you

Now going back to the original question:
"Why Didnt God Kill Satan From The Onset?"

There is an ambiguity in the question and the ambiguity is with "Onset"

Which "Onset" is this?
"Onset" from where, when or what?

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You see Adam (i.e. as in, Man or human beings) is a product of, necessity is the mother of invention
Also note that, a need and/or problem(s) encourages creative effort(s) to meet the need and/or solve the problem(s)

There were two problem situations and the necessity being the mother of invention, is the start of the solution, to solving the problem situations

It's strongly evident, that there were "situation problems"

The two problem situations were and/or are sin and vacuum created by renegades

This encouraged the Godhead to propose creative efforts to solve the "situation problems"

Man, is the start of the solution, not just only to solving the "situation problems" but is, also, to meet a need

Man (i.e. human beings) is NOT an accidental happening, rather is the product of a well-thought-out plan hence the earlier reference or earlier use of, necessity is the mother of invention

God IS NOT experimenting with humans. Man or human beings are part of the solution package. Two for the price of one (i.e. man or human beings used to bring about sin eradication and fill vacuum created by renegades)

Necessity is the mother of invention. So we have human beings and if sin were to be found in Man too, then have sin eradication.

Difficult problem(s) & situation(s) (e.g. sin) inspires ingenious solution(s) (e.g. Man or human beings)

Man or human beings are NOT happenstance, hence the earlier and kept repeating, "necessity is the mother of invention".

I believe strongly that God is solving a problem and the necessity being the mother of invention, is the start of the solution, to solving the problem situations
paxo/nel Doctor/Alien Ihe/dinobi3

vybzkartel:
Romans 8:20

For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it in hope;

Questions:

1. What is the meaning of this verse?

vybzkartel:
2. Who did the subjection?

vybzkartel:
3. What time did he do the subjection?

vybzkartel:
4. When was this subjection done?

vybzkartel:
5. What and who constitute creation?

vybzkartel:
Thanks very much

Cc:, jesusjunior, janosky, bingbagbo, preciousgirl, emusan, mrpresident1, mightysparrow, freshboi88, maxindihouse, livingchrist, achorladey

MuttleyLaff:
The teacher is correct, Satan will in due time get his commeupanuce



For the teacher to react by practically telling her off and ending the class, saying he/she is not in the mood of answering questions any longer is likely because he/she was caught out of depth

Dont judge God's decision(s) and/or choice(s), if you dont understand the reason(s) is an advice I would have given the 13 year old girl.
Would also chip in that one just has to trust God's judgement and God's manner of handling things.
God has everything in control.
There is a method in what is seen as madness.

At the end, so much would have been learned to make everyone and the world a better place to live in

Would have learnt:
1/ How much to love,
2/ How carefully to live, and
3/ How important it is, to let go of things not meant for you

Now going back to the original question:
"Why Didnt God Kill Satan From The Onset?"

There is an ambiguity in the question and the ambiguity is with "Onset"

Which "Onset" is this?
"Onset" from where, when or what?

---

---

You see Adam (i.e. as in, Man or human beings) is a product of, necessity is the mother of invention
Also note that, a need and/or problem(s) encourages creative effort(s) to meet the need and/or solve the problem(s)

There were two problem situations
and the necessity being the mother of invention, is the start of the solution, to solving the problem situations

It's strongly evident, that there were "situation problems"

The two problem situations were and/or are sin and vacuum created by renegades

This encouraged the Godhead to propose creative efforts to solve the "situation problems"

Man, is the start of the solution, not just only to solving the "situation problems" but is, also, to meet a need

Man (i.e. human beings) is NOT an accidental happening, rather is the product of a well-thought-out plan
hence the earlier reference or earlier use of, necessity is the mother of invention

God IS NOT experimenting with humans
Man or human beings are part of the solution package
Two for the price of one (i.e. man or human beings used to bring about sin eradication and fill vacuum created by renegades)

Necessity is the mother of invention
So we have human beings and if sin were to be found in Man too, then have sin eradication.

Difficult problem(s) & situation(s) (e.g. sin) inspires ingenious solution(s) (e.g. Man or human beings)

Man or human beings are NOT happenstance, hence the earlier and kept repeating, "necessity is the mother of invention".

I believe strongly that God is solving a problem
and the necessity being the mother of invention, is the start of the solution, to solving the problem situations
paxonel DoctorAlien Ihedinobi3

vybzkartel:
Romans 8:20
"For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it in hope;"

Questions:
1. What is the meaning of this verse?
2. Who did the subjection?
3. What time did he do the subjection?
4. When was this subjection done?
5. What and who constitute creation?

Thanks very much

Cc: Muttleylaff, jesusjunior, janosky, bingbagbo, preciousgirl, emusan, mrpresident1, mightysparrow, freshboi88, maxindihouse, livingchrist, achorladey

livingchrist:
It is not a matter of limitation or not, It is matter of revelation.

livingchrist:
your question is like asking for the reason why 1+1 should be 2

livingchrist:
yes, God only exist as three persons.

livingchrist:
[s]The trinity is not a manifestation but rather an existence, God did manifest as God, no, he is God. God didnt manifest as trinity rather he is trinity.

sorry, trinity is not forms of God[/s]

Acehart:
Do you think he would follow your advice?

orunto27:
It's a Shameful Act of s Shameless Man.

elated177:
Here he goes again! Every saint of Yahushua the Messiah is his witness.

Every single human being, irrespective of race, tribe, ethnicity, status or language, who obeys the Ten Commandments of Yahveh Almighty is his servant and Yahushua the Messiah's witness.

I ask you, maxindhouse, do you believe that Yahushua the Messiah is the embodiment of the Ten Commandments of Yahveh Almighty, the Creator of heaven and earth?