Fvckyouall:
You seem to be well versed I want to hear your opinion on this if it's ok with you

MaxInDHouse:
[s]I'm sorry for interfering in your discussion but i just need to ship in few words.

Please when you're trying to preach whatever it is you were taught in your church make sure you're skillful in handling Holy things! 2Timothy 2:15

The OP's is clear enough when he said "come and defend YOUR Bible" indication that he/she is just one of those ridiculers of God's word, so what are you doing in their midst? Psalms 1:1

Jesus sent us out in search for the lost sheep of the house of Israel meaning people who are humble and lowly at heart not hardheartened ridiculers who don't value holy things! Matthew:7:6

Well i'm Maximus one of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, if you'll like to know more about preaching and teaching that's effective we can chat on that. Though your teachers differs from mine which makes our line of thought differs but if we want to talk about God's word the first thing that should come to our mind is how the founder laid down the procedure not just what we feel is right from our own initiative! John 5:30

God bless you! [/s]

Fvckyouall:
You christains take everything like everyone is attacking you like you get orgasm from being persecuted cause the Bible told you, you would be.

Fvckyouall:
How do I ridicule? Did I say God dosent exist or he is a fake Righteousness2 brought some verses from the Bible and I told him why do we need to obey the verses he brought and not the ones I brought and you all are running away lol. You guys are disappointing

Fvckyouall:
Every single person converted in the Bible were taught and given proof Christianity was right so why can't you guys do so maybe cause you guys aren't even real Christains just church goers who have no backbone when it comes to a real debate

Rofhrider:
Leviticus 18:21
"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."

Teaveapoet:
Romans 1:27-28 NLT
"^[27]And the men, instead of having normal sexual relations with women, burned with lust for each other.
Men did shameful things with other men, and as a result of this sin, they suffered within themselves the penalty they deserved.
^[28]Since they thought it foolish to acknowledge God, He abandoned them to their foolish thinking
and let them do things that should never be done"

Rofhrider:
Teaveapoet, don't create confusion ja'e.
we're talking bout' homosexuality, not obedience to law.

Teaveapoet:
Read carefully with your bible

Lightangel65:
You dey fear answer na why you dey run na only mouth una get to defend yourselves na whala

kingxsamz:
Funny thing is that the guy only quoted bible verses for him o, and the Righteousness2 guy was already triggered. Baba don run.

Kobojunkie:
[s]Again...

Those who pray aloud are antiChrist beings since they suppose Jesus Christ a fool for commanding His followers pray in such a manner that no one hears or sees them I.e. enter their closets to pray.

God is not a fool.. When He gives a command, He expects those who serve Him, regardless of their opinions, to trust and obey Him. Those who say they are of God but refuse to obey Him are liars and the Truth of God, Jesus Christ, does not live inside of such persons.

According to the Word of God,you are not supposed to be seen or heard when you pray to God...This act is meant to be carried out in secret.. Not in public as Christians do today.[/s]

Omihanifa:
there is no biblical reason to believe that praying out loud is more or less effectual than praying silently. We may do either. Scripture is full of examples of public prayers offered on all sorts of occasions, from Solomon’s long prayer at the dedication of the temple (1 Kings 8 ) to Christ’s four-word cry of agony (and unshaken hope) from the cross (Matt. 27:46). Yet, Jesus also taught His disciples that our Father hears prayers offered silently or in secret, and Paul tells us the Spirit who strengthens our faith and hope through prayer also intercedes for us with groans too deep for words (6:5–6; Rom. 8:26).

Kobojunkie:
Praying aloud and in public( like you all do in your churches today) is against God.

God is not deaf and He certainly did not call His followers to pray as the Pharisees, nor as the mueslims do.

Imoobot:
...I just need your kind opinions on this.
Some people believe that praying loudly makes God know you are serious. Others view it as a sign of maturity in Christ.
Some churches even say praying loudly makes God answer your prayers faster.

So let's discuss. What do you guys think. Biblical references will be appreciated.

Fvckyouall:
Exactly cause they could not give me proofs or defend what I wrote about the Bible they are running away or stooping to insults, exactly what you said it takes spiritually mature people to answer certain questions and these ones obviously aren't

MuttleyLaff:
Some posters who should be spiritually mature and ready to answer hard questions, aren't spiritually mature and aren't ready to answer hard questions, but they're ready and quick to give flimsy excuses to who puts them on the spot by asking simple questions, because unfortunately they find the questions hard for them to intelligently and well informed give answers to the questions asked them, lmso

Its not him/her really wanting to be a coward, lmso but he/she had no chance because you gave him/her a tall order, lmso. You gave him/her, Righteousness89, Omar09 and especially Elated177, something that is very difficult for them to do, lmso.

You put them inside a dark room, then asked them to show you a black cat in the dark room, when there isnt any black cat to start with in the dark room, lmso. They will have their work cut out for them, lmso, for as long as they dont know that homosexuality is bad, just in the same way that heterosexuality is bad and also homosexuality is good, in just the same ways that heterosexuality is good, lmso.

Those verses, Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 and 1 Timothy 1:9-10 were strewed out by Righteousness2, without him/her, having a Scooby Doo idea what the verses contextually, historically and culturally were each and all about. Smh sigh.

Fvckyouall:
Please can someone proof to me that Homosexuality is bad I don't need long texts just facts and biblical verses

Rofhrider:
Leviticus18:21
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Righteousness2:
Homosexuality is not only evil

Righteousness2:
it's Wickedness!

Righteousness2:
Homosexuality It's Abominable!

Righteousness2:
Its Unnatural!

Righteousness2:
It Provokes GOD'S Wrath.

Righteousness2:
Genesis 19 (The Sodom and Gomorrah Experience)

Righteousness2:
Leviticus 18:22
Leviticus 20:13
1 Corinthians 6:9-10
1 Timothy 1:9-10

Righteousness2:
[s]I taught you were a reasonable folk!
Continue in whatever you want!
Continue in Irrelevant tantrums! I am not for that
In due Season, you will get what u deserve[/s]

Fvckyouall:
Is it hard to defend yourselves, you are a coward Jesus would never have backed down, your mate Elijah sent down fire and just a simple truth you are backing off like a pussy ass nigga .

You are disgracing Prophets you can't bring proof or defend the verses I mentioned and you call yourself a prophet shame on you

Nairalandwizerd:
Hell rufai! Short real devil among men.
Meanwhile, somewhere at FCMB....

donbachi:
Naija go soon lockdown..na follow follow dem sabi do.

Barristter07:
That would make Jesus a Liar, he said Only the Father knows. So holy spirit also know?

livingchrist:
It doesnt make Jesus a liar, Jesus was only speaking in the context of persons that his disciples were familiar with and in that context only the father knew.
Yes the holy spirit knew.

1 Corinthians 2:11
For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

See paul is saying the spirit of God knows the mind of God.

Barristter07:
Then Jesus is wrong that ONLY , ONLY , ONLY , ONLY , ONLY the Father knows. Two persons not one person as Jesus said

livingchrist:
yes the 'ONLY' is only limited to revealed persons.

Barristter07:
ONLY the Father knows, do you believe this?

Emusan:
Do you believe HOLY SPIRIT knows the MIND OF GOD?

Barristter07:
Yes. So do you accept ONLY The person called Father knows ?

MuttleyLaff:
What Makes Man?
Or better still what is man?
Man is a spirit being, residing or housed in a Body and possessing a Soul, so Man is made up of Body, Soul (i.e. uses the heart as an outlet) and Spirit. The Soul has the body and spirit on each opposite sides of it. In a nutshell, Man essentially, is a spirit being with a soul, housed, encapsulated, and/or wrapped up in a human being body suit

The spirit and soul have different faculties, and so the faculties of the spirit, comprises of Fellowship, Conscience, Discernment or Intuition, whilst the faculties of the Soul comprises of the Mind (i.e. consciousness and sub consciousness) or Intellect, Will or Freewill, and Emotions and the Body has 5 faculties of senses, which are, to see, via the eyes, hear, via the ears, feel, via applicable part of the body, smell, via the nose and taste, via the mouth.

Some people have lost that ability to know bad from good. It's similar to losing sense of taste, smell, sight, hearing, feeling pain or not et cetera

MuttleyLaff:
shadeyinka, just mull over what I've so far advanced and wait for when I am actively back here in the late PM. Sebi nah truth and proper understanding you want erhn? Then wait nah, it'll be worth the waiting.

shadeyinka:
Okay!

MuttleyLaff:
"Guard your heart above all else,
for it determines the course of your life
(i.e. for everything you do flows from the heart)"
- Proverbs 4:23

"The good man brings good things out of the good treasure of his heart,
and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil treasure of his heart.
For out of the overflow of the heart, the mouth speaks"
- Luke 6:45

shadeyinka, I am 110% sure you'll agree and accept that, it is the Soul that is saved even Ezekiel 18:20 emphatically states that: "The soul that sinneth, it shall die.", it doesnt say its the Body or the Spirit. Now, the heart is used by the Soul but the heart definitely is not the Spirit

Let me slip this bit in, first, as a preamble. Proverbs 4:23 and Luke 6:45 above, informs us that, it's out of the abundance of the heart first, then processed in the brain or mind, before the mouth speaks. All evil intents comes forth out of the heart, as in, the heart housed in the human Body. Mark 7:21-22, paints a picture of the heart with the following: "For from within the hearts of men come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, wickedness, deceit, debauchery, envy, slander, arrogance, and foolishness" and Jeremiah 17:9 doesnt paint the heart in good light either, as it says: "The human heart is the most deceitful of all things, and desperately wicked. Who really knows how bad it is?"

Incidentally, the verse, Psalms 51:10, informatively tells us, that the heart is linked with the mind, which is part of the Soul. The same Soul or psyche uses the heart as an outlet, to pass out or pass in things, from the Body and/or Spirit via the heart in the Soul. I'll soon below explain how it does this and/or how this works

What is man?
"And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground,
and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."
- Genesis 2:7

"For the Spirit of God has made me,
and the breath of the Almighty gives me life."
- Job 33:4

Man is a spirit being, residing or housed in a Body and possessing a Soul (i.e. a psyche). In fact, Man is made up of Body, Soul and Spirit. As a matter of fact, the Soul or psyche, has the Body and Spirit on each opposite sides of it. In a nutshell, Man essentially, is a spirit being with a Soul, housed, encapsulated, and/or wrapped up, in a human being body suit.

Genesis 2:7 and Job 33:4 above, informs us, its "ruach" the Spirit from God and "neshamah" that keeps the human body animated.

Now shadeyinka, please dont try to mix up "ruach" and "neshamah" with ordinary and/or commonplace spirits, as in meaning, dont try to mix up the Spirit of God and the breath or wind of God, with extraterrestrial beings, which is what evil and good spirits are.

Fyi, "ruach", in Hebrew, with its corresponding Greek word "pneuma" essentially and in an almost oversimplified way means force. It is breath, wind, spirit of God, all rolled in as one thing. It in a sense, is the invisible force or power of God, hence why being perceived as a Spirit, so yes, "ruach" is the Spirit of God. In fact you wont wrong in saying that "ruach" or "Ha Ruach Ha Kodesh" is the Holy Spirit, as in, the Spirit of God.

You can see both "ruach" and "neshamah" being interplayed in the creation of man from Genesis 2:7 reproduced above, and as a witness plus as a supporting verse, Job 33:4 you see reproduced above, confirms, by testifying, that, its "ruach" that made man and it is "neshamah" that gives man life

"Neshamah", incidentally, is actually derived from another Hebrew word called "nasham" that means to pant and/or blow away with air, now, when the spirit, as in, meaning, "neshamah", the breath, returns back to God, the Body slumps and the Soul goes into comatose. This looks and feels, similar to a TV animated cartoon changed and turned into a cartoon strip character, on a comic book or magazine paper. TV animated cartoon characters moves, but cartoon strip character, on a comic book or magazine paper dont move like animated cartoon characters watched on TV screens. For the life of the body is in the blood and the life of the soul is in the spirit. When the spirit leaves the body, it returns back to God, leaving the body inanimate, meaning leaves it motionless and lifeless, as in, without life or no more with life. Ecclesiastes 12:7

"Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was:
and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it."
- Ecclesiastes 12:7

Now, moving further on, the Spirit and Soul have different faculties, where the faculties of the spirit, comprises of Fellowship, Conscience, Discernment or Intuition, while the faculties of the Soul are made up of the Mind (i.e. consciousness and sub consciousness) or Intellect, Will or Freewill, and Emotions. The Body is not left out, it has 5 faculties of senses, and these are, sight, as in to see via the eyes, hearing, as in hear via the ears, touch, as in, feel via applicable part of the body, smell, as in, perceive via the nose and last but not the least, taste, as in, sense with the mouth.

The Body is worldly conscious and relates to the environment and its surroundings, the Soul is self conscious and relates to self & other people and the Spirit is God conscious and relates to God. After the death of the Body, the Soul without God, without any affinity with God, cant achieve or have eternal life

Now, remember shadeyinka, that the question was: "What is Man" Well, my intro response is, the Soul, biblically speaking, is the most important existence of Man and that is why the battle is and always has been about and over the Soul. All attacks, are ultimately targeted at and for the Soul. Now, getting started proper, the Soul is the first medium key component of Man created by God and Man is tickled and accessed through this same Soul, by way of the Body and Spirit. The Soul, as a matter of fact and in effect, is the mediator between the Body and Spirit. The Soul uses the heart, as the point from where issues are sent out and/or distributed from.

Let me elaborate and explain a bit how everything works, the different faculties in the Soul waits, to pick up signals coming from the relevant and/or applicable faculties in the Body and the Spirit. This crucial bit of information here, is very important to grasp, and it is that, the Soul receives from the Body and deposits into the Spirit. Whatever the Body reads or sees via the eyes, hears via the ears, feels via applicable part of the body, smells via the nose and talks or tastes via the mouth is picked up by the Soul and deposited into the Spirit. The Spirit then, upon receiving these things from the Soul, has to deal with or process what the Soul has deposited into the Spirit's laps.

Fya shade/yinka, please note, anywhere in the post you see "Spirit", unless it is stated otherwise, take it, to mean, as in, spirit-man, and not the Holy Spirit or Spirit of God. Thank you

Now, this here, is why regulation is very important. It is why we ought to control and oversee what the Soul is picking up from or what it is picking up with the senses. If you have to by all means, eat the chicken or fish, then its necessary to know when and how to spit out the bones, or if it's straw to eat, then know when and how to spit out the sticks, alternatively, if it's liquor to drink, and you cant hold it down so you don't throw it up, then know how or when to stay away from the liquor. Caveat emptor clause #1 done.

The devil has no power over anyone, except if such person, is in the dark, dabbling in the dark or is ignorant, so I'll advise the curious to distance themselves from dabbling into the dark, to save themselves from misery, but if hellbent on dining with the devil, then make sure you've got a long spoon to dine and eat with. Caveat emptor clause #2 done.

Resuming and back on track, now, if the Soul picks up an interaction, info, instruction, message, communication, issue etcetera from the Body, it cant interpret, then the deposit the Soul received from the Body and put into the Spirit will be unfruitful then (i.e. remember the red emboldened above hmm?) The thing here, is that, the Spirit, by the God design, knows what it expects from the Soul for positive fruition to be possible but the Soul has received from the Body something it doesnt via the Mind or Intellect understand or know about. Wahala don begin to gas be dat ooo. Now, just as in the physical, when the stomach growls, making noises for food, when nourishing is long overdue, so it is spiritually, the Spirit, intercedes for us through wordless and noiseless groans for substances necessary for growth, health and good condition

The Soul, as a conduit, a vent hole determines what the Spirit receives, but if the Soul is transferring the wrong expectations (e.g. like not praying right, not asking right, not the will of God etctera) then the Spirit, does the wordless groans. It does this because the spirit-man knows what should be prayed for, so it becomes restless with wordless groans, when the expectation(s) is not forthcoming or not in sight. The Spirit, as in, the spirit-man, is like saying: Hey Mr Soul, where are the goods I am expecting, please dont feed me with trash, junk and any of all these ungodly razzmatazz stuffs. So since the Spirit, is capable of asking and telling the Soul what it needs, the Soul just has to return back to the Body to honour the request and be asking the Body for correct or "kosher" stuff and not the crap its received

Now, if it is one of those classic cases of the Spirit, is willing BUT the Body is weak, then the Body many times will REFUSE the Soul the request of the Spirit, and here we have a typical case of struggle or power tussle going on in the Soul involving the Body and the Spirit
The Spirit , knows what it needs the Soul giving it from the Body (i.e. the Spirit tells the Soul what to do, expecting the Soul to relay this information request to the Body) but the Body, many times, is not ready or prepared to act in accordance with the wish or command of the Spirit, by giving or offering it to the Soul for the Spirit.

There is a rule, that the Spirit, cannot give to the Body righteous things it didnt receives from the Soul. Hmm, I perceive someone's going to trip at this point, so OK, here is the clarification to ward off any confusion:
The Soul passes on all righteous things it receives from the Body, if the seed is able to bear fruit and is meaningful when the Spirit receives it, the Spirit, will then fertilise the ''seed'' and return it back to the Body, via the Soul, bumper harvest fruitfully. Call it positive and welcome payback, if you like.

So, in effect, the Soul feeds the Spirit, and the Soul receives from the Spirit, to feed the Body. This is the reason, why if your mind (i.e. Soul) doesnt understand something OR anything, it would be unable to interpret, to then, successfully feed the Spirit or the Body.

shade/yinka, do you ever recoil back, when watching something gruesome happening in real life or maybe just on a TV screen slash internet, as in, like in a horror film or something? If you do, well that's your spirit, as in your spirit-man, not wanting to be needlessly grieved. Sometimes, you have to protect the gateway to your spirit-man because you might not necessarily want to relive or remember that moment, so you block any avenue, contact or link to that thing happening or going on at that moment of time. What is happening here, is you preventing your spirit-man from being fed with junk. You are protecting your heart and shielding it from receiving and/or taking in from junk. You are blocking the faculties from transferring junk to the Soul via the heart.

"Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health,
even as thy soul prospereth"
- 3 John 1:2

As seen in 3 John 1:2 above, the Soul (i.e. the Mind (i.e. conscious and sub conscious) or Intellect, Will or Freewill, and Emotions) tops it all. Of course, the ability of the Soul to prosper or be held back to any degree, is dependent on the Spirit, getting the right detail, at which to relay back to the Body via the Soul at a latter date, future or time, as and when needed.

This is another God design, quest for quality GIGO and QIQO system set-up. GIGO is an ancroymn for "Garbage in, Garbage out" and QIQO is an ancroymn for "Quality in, Quality out" If the Soul sends in shiit to the Spirit, the Soul gets shiit back from the Spirit. It just implies that bad input by the Soul will result in bad output in return, sent back from the Spirit to the Soul. Ultimately too, the Body, at the receiving end of it all, gets the flawed and nonsense input data from the Soul, this comes by nonsense output garbage obtained from the Spirit that originally and in first place was sent in from the Soul coming from one or more of the Body's faculties (e.g. eyes, ears, touch, mouth, smell)

"For You will not abandon my soul to Sheol; Nor will You allow Your Holy One to undergo decay."
- Psalm 16:10

shade/yinka, you're too heavy to want to fall for my hand now, please dont. Biko, jor abeg. The soul of Jesus, not being left in Sheol, aka hell/hades, is King David's Psalm 16:10 prophecy being fulfilled. Everything written about Jesus, in the Law of Moses, the Prophets, and the Psalms were each and every one fulfilled, and so we have it that the soul of Jesus was not abandoned in Sheol nor His body decayed. Praise God. Alleluia.

Now, shade/yinka, when our Lord Jesus Christ resurrected, He resurrected with a glorified body. Need I go on, need I say more, if not, then I rest my case then.

After the death of the Body, the Soul without God, without any affinity with God, cant achieve or have eternal life

I guess shade/yinka that you'll agree that the devil and demons are souless, meaning they have no soul. Now, the reason why the devil and the demons are inredeemable is because of the fact that they have no souls. The devil and the demons, are not able to be saved, be improved, or be corrected because of the mere fact that they lack a soul. The devil and the demons, to start with, unlike human beings, havent got diddly squat souls to make better, to improve upon, to make more desirable, satisfactory and/or effective.

God doesnt have a soul, heart, eyes, legs, hands ears, etcetera literally as we human being and/or we terrestrial beings do physically have

Blabbermouth:
To start with, can you tell me leaving no stone unturned, the differences between your Soul and your Spirit?

MaxInDHouse:
I respect you as an intelligent being and image of God, try to improve the level of your intelligence!
What is the purpose of asking questions all the time when you already know that members of this group will give you the same response?
Come on Shadeyinka you should be wiser than this, once you know what is published in our magazines and you're aware that it's believing (trusting) in those publications that makes one a JW.
Your next line of action should be to present something of higher value and operational somewhere not questions upon questions that you already know what they will give you as response!

Imagine this question of yours again!
My friend, Maximus and Barrister both belongs to the same Organization (JW) and you know our logo is the same line of thought, so why asking me if i'm in agreement with my brother in faith?

Well it's just a question, i'm in agreement with the Watchtower just as Barrister so we will always be in agreement! John 17:20-23

shadeyinka:
That was said by Barrister07 himself, representing the JWs here.
Although Maximus is trying hard to correct his line of thought.

shadeyinka:
A member of your group said that the Holy Spirit is senior in rank to the Father and the Word. What do you want me to do except ask you how and by what justification is it true!

shadeyinka:
Okay!

Blabbermouth:
Contextually speaking, the Holy spirit can ONLY know if He/she/it is not a person independent of the person of God the father.

Blabbermouth:
Who can know the things of man except the spirit of man?
My spirit knows everything about me because it is what it is, My Spirit! Not another independent entity, it is my spirit!

Blabbermouth:
If the Holy spirit is an independent entity of the father, then He is part of the "NO ONE KNOWS" category.

Whether you like it or not, that's the scriptural and logical truth.

tobechi74:
In Ephesians 5:33, Paul writes,

“let each one of you in particular so love his own wife as himself, and let the wife see that she respects her husband.” In addition to his command toward men, Paul says a wife should respect her husband. Respect your husband, period. That’s the standard the Bible gives to women

In those days, Women were relegated to the bottom of social order. She is a treated like a property to be traded for money. A woman cannot be a chief. She belonged to the kitchen. Her son’s opinion is considered ahead of hers. Ancient woman know It is normal for a man to hit a woman she dares not complain

Today, women go school. Women rule over men. Women are given lots of preference during divorce litigation. Today, we have lots of agitation for laws protecting women from disrespect.. Women now crave for respect. Women do not want to submit to a man. They want an equal. Few women want men that will submit to their wish.

Modern women dislikes submitting to a woman
Ancient men know that the women they marry got no feeling for her. He only respects her for his provision. He doesn’t care for her love. As long as she respects him , he is alright. Most women marry men who are capable of catering for her basic need. In essence, A woman would select richer men.

Today, women who marry men for his wealth are called gold diggers. Men crave more than respect. They want love. They want a man that would be there for him when he has nothing. They want women who love them for whom they are and not just what they provide.

Today women want love and respect. Todays men want love and respect. Respect is not just for men. Love is not just for women.

Laryne:
Are you ok?

Freelane33:
[s]Rubbishline like Vaseline .. awon eyan gaybread [/s]

gasparpisciotta:
[s]She should have poisoned you instead, now you have ended up shaming her.[/s]

Paulcyril19:
[s]There should be a separate country for you guys.[/s]

Fvckyouall:
See the comments from christains who say they are peaceful fvcking hudlums. That mother is not fit to be called one everyone should be treated as human beings if you don't like them stay away they did not kill your father ogini leave them alone

MuttleyLaff:

Bodydiialect57:
You can’t have God without loving all those whom God loves, because God is love. When you invite Jesus Christ into your heart, be ready to welcome Him and His friends. Who are His friends?

The rich and poor, old and young, male and female, well and sick, Jew, Samaritan, Babalawos Roman, Gentile. He loved thieves, prostitutes, tax collectors, lepers. Sinners all.

And the righteous people spat out their condemnation, “This man welcomes sinners, and eats with them.” And they were right. He did. Mark 2:16.

If you truly love God, you will love those He loves.

That is the main thing!

Bodydiialect57:
Thanks for your contributions sir.
What's this IBM syndrome?
Happy new year to you.

MuttleyLaff:
I earlier told you didnt I, that you aren't ready to be exposed to the truth, fact and reality, lmso.

Both KJV and NWT are translations, that weren't inspired by God. Now, if KJV is not inerrant, what makes you believe that your Jehovah's Witnesses 1961 NWT that makes many false and misleading statements on many subjects, topics and even God directly, would be an exception, hmm?

MuttleyLaff:
"¹⁶All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right.
¹⁷God uses it to prepare and equip his people to do every good work."
- 2 Timothy 3:16-17

Max/InDHouse, all Scripture is inspired by God (i.e. all scripture is given by inspiration of God) but not all translation of Scripture as done in 1961 by Frederick W. Franz, who happened to be the main translator of scripture for use by Jehovah's Witnesses or The Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society (i.e. WTBTS) is inspired by God nor done by inspiration of God

Frederick W. Franz's New World Translation (i.e. NWT) even worse, is a poor translation from the original Koine Greek. Words have been added, deleted, inserted, invented, changed and modifications made to change scripture so to navigate round doctrinal difficulties and make scripture agree with Jehovah's Witnesses' heresies and suspect theology.

Now here's the truth, point and fact, right from the word go, Jehovah's Witnesses have set off on the wrong foot and with fraudulence right from the foundational level and so in the hands of the unsuspecting, inexperienced and the not aware, the New World Translation (i.e. NWT) can be chancy and misleading translation to be only reading. I won't mince words in saying that the New World Translation (i.e. NWT) should not be read, taken not accepted at face value, but to look deeper for its veiled intent and uncover what its translators have carefully and clearly hidden away or introduced

Barristter07:
KJV calls holy spirit "It" . Are u contradicting yourselves?

shadeyinka:

I have done so!

shadeyinka:
[s]The illustration of Trinity using the state of water or any other solid is okay for comprehension but not precise enough. The closest I still find is the trinity of man as an example. The next closest illustration to this is the "Wave-Particle Duality" of matter (howbeit in 2D).[/s]
YES!
[s]Explanation:

1. God sends Himself on errand as the Father composing His will/plan, the Word expressing the command and the Spirit of God actualising the command.
It is analogous to my soul willing to fast and my body (in spite of having its own will, complying by not eating.)

With due respect, your illustration break down in the sense that (using your illustration): it isn't H2O sending Water, Steam or Ice on errand, it is the Father sending out the son on errand.[/s]
YES!
[s]Explanation:

2. The Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit are not localized. It means that each has the infinite nature of God without limitation of space and time. The Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit are Omnipotent, Omnipresent and Omniscient hence can be everywhere at the same time

I have answered your questions with justifications from my point of view!

In other words, the illustration or analogy of the trinity of God being compared with the trinity of man does NOT contradict either of your two questions.[/s]

shadeyinka:
I answered your questions.
The two questions had the answer YES!

The only issue is that I explained why the answer is YES from my point of view and NOT yours!

In other words, the fact that my answers were in the affirmative doesn't prove you correct. It actually support my view!

elated177:
The Truth cannot be changed.

MuttleyLaff:
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Do you approve of all kinds, forms or instances of heterosexuality or not?

MuttleyLaff:
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Have you no shame ducking your head?

Exc2000:
[s] If Osinbajo should contest I see massive votes for him and him winning conveniently

Tinubu has one secret master chess move in 2023 and I think it's Osinbajo....

He played that same game with Obanikoro and Fashola

Same with Hamzat, Opiefa and Ambode

Same with Sanwo Olu and Ambode[/s]

elated177:
[s]I know you are looking for whose joy to spoil so that your "pepper-body" can have a little peace. Well, know that there is no peace for the wicked. As long as you continue to worship demons and by that make the lights of Yahushua the Messiah your enemies; the sun, the moon, the stars, the rain, the wind, thunder and lightning, the heavens and the earth will continue to torment you, Reed, and your kind whenever and wherever you come across this humble saint, servant and messenger of Yahveh Almighty, Elated177.[/s]

bingbagbo:
John 16:13-15

[13]However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come.
[14] He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you.
[15] All things that the Father has are Mine. Therefore I said that He will take of Mine and declare it to you.

FROM VERSE 14, THE HOLY SPIRIT GLORIFIES JESUS. ANYONE WHO HAS RECEIVED THE HOLY SPIRIT GLORIFIES JESUS. NOT JEHOVAH BUT JESUS! JESUS CHRIST IS GOD ALMIGHTY!

DO YOU GLORIFY JESUS?

bingbagbo:
Also, if You receive The Holy Spirit:

Acts 1:8
But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be witnesses to Me in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.”

When you receive the Holy Spirit, you shall be witnesses to Jesus, not Jehovah but Jesus, read the text again.

Whom are you witnessing? Who you witness determines which Spirit is in you.

Halleluyah