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Anas09:
Ignored

Stop being "onye iberibe" or just "sin nga pụọ" my friend

ichuka:
Lol
Love my space
Pm me pls

You dey Naija or outside obodo Naija?

budaatum:
In the Light of Truth
Grail Message by Abdrushin

I am not uncle! Call me buda.

Ooku somebody doesnt want to die.
Share this your elixir of youth, dont be chopping it in secret and alone ooo

budaatum:
Lack of intellect is empty vault. Sulky is a blind eye.

I am enjoying reading you literally speaking in tongues

budaatum:
Barred from earning the prize muttley, but not from answering the question.

Your bar removed. Paypal £100 muttley right too.

How much would be in a vault of a 40 year old who put in a pound every month they lived?

Motivation restored
How often does he put away a pound into the vault?

budaatum:
Fear God!

MuttleyLaff:
The only time the LORD has sense organs was when He was on earth, as God the Son, Jesus Christ

VLadipo you seem to be taking the anthropomorphism and anthropopathism in the Bible literally

To get biblical messages "understood", attribution of human form (e.g. noses, eyes, ears, etcetera)
or other characteristics (e.g. smelling, seeing, watching etcetera) to beings (e.g. God) other than humans,
is used in the Bible, often as a method of describing the moment or event with things/physical features we as humans relate to

It's like when adults play with babies and they come down to the babies' level,
by starting to do baby-talk, making speech-like sounds produced by babies.
Adults dont talk like that but in want of communicate with the babies, they temporarily adopt this manner of talk, the babies can relate with

As with the baby-talk above, views and interactions with God in the Bible, uses language of human personality, characteristics, features and activities to communicate with us

Anyway, God is noncorporeal, so any anthropomorphism, anthropopathism or personifications used in the Bible or other literature is to make sure the communicated messages gets across understood

Examples of Personification:
1) The long ARM of the law caught up with him
2) The moon WINKED at me through the clouds above
3) The car BECKONED me from across the showroom
4) The lagoon DANCED in the moonlight.
5) Tamedo didn't realize that opportunity WAS KNOCKING at his door
6) Time creeps up on you

God has means or mechanisms to appreciate, approve etcetera, but they arent humanoid or physical in nature

John 4:24
"God is a SPIRIT: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth"

1 Timothy 1:17
"Now unto the King eternal, immortal, INVISIBLE, the only wise God,
be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen."

I sincerely hope you will go back to your website and make necessary edits

Yeah, and that problem is fully solved when we begin to appreciate that God is a Spirit
It is throwing caution to the wind, to think of God as a physical being or as having physical body parts.

Personification, matey. You even have anthropomorphism in your link sef

budaatum:
To avoid misleading, "MoG" is "Mouth of God".
I have edited.

"MoG" is "man of God", dont mind budaatum.
God is a Spirit, He hasnt got a mouth

budaatum:
Oh, sulky, letting ho peirazōn steal from you!
Tell what you understood I meant.

That MuttleyLaff is barred from participating to win the paypal £100 prize money to the right answer

HappyPagan:
Nice shoes, Bro.

You bi winch? Just remember to pay me tithe on that £480 as a moG

ichuka:
Wow!
Thanks dear

Congrats again, it couldnt have been a better winner. It was either you or FOLYKAZE, I thought would get the answer and win the prize.

ichuka:
The truth is the answer has been right there, but because of distraction or lack of proper concerntration we almost miss it.
It brings us back to ourselves.
WHAT HAVE WR GAINED WITH ALL THE WORLDS KNOWLEDGE AND SELF RIGHTEOUSNESS?
Ans.is Nothing.
Ecc1:
²Vanity of vanities, saith the Preacher, vanity of vanities; all is vanity.
³What profit hath a man of all his labour which he taketh under the sun?.......
Vanity my dear

Yeah, gained worthless things, which essentially at the end of the day is nothing

ichuka:
So what's the prize?
Lol

What the prize is, depends on what your location is, as in, where you're based
If I am able to personally deliver it, it'll be a bespoke table/bedside lamp, if not then the prize will be recharge card voucher details

budaatum:
לֹא-תַעֲשֶׂה לְךָ פֶסֶל, וְכָל-תְּמוּנָה

The above is what we read the Finger of God (FoG) wrote muttley, and as FoG didn't personally write much of Scripture, I'd be inclined to seriously consider it more than what Jesus personally wrote and definitely more than Isaiah, Jeremiah, Daniel or Paul and what is written in the Gospels even except they all proceed out of the MoG and bread alone malnourishes.

Imagine the wealth in a vault you put a pound every month you lived. Intellect is wealth stored in a vault moths can't get at, and as it grows one would know no mountain is high enough in all the world to see the whole world, so you'd not go about creating graven images of God with your puny intellect as if it was watching from high on a mountain.

Those who store wealth in moth proof vaults from birth as suggested do not use their stored up wealth to create graven images muttley because they and their intellect serve the Lord.

Here's a trick question for everyone. How much would be in a vault of a 40 year old who put in a pound every month they lived?

paypal £100 to the right answer. Muttley is excluded.

Not fair, sulkily walks away

Anas09:
Ignored again.

If you are idle in Christ's work, you are active in the devil's work. Keep on thumping "ignored" in a continuous way even after the moG's stern warning to you, OK.

ichuka:
He gained 'Nothing'
But lost everything.

"For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, (i.e. the dead know nothing)
neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten."
- Ecclesiastes 9:5

I love your tenacity, your perseverance, you have a fighting spirit. Where are you based? If I cant personally deliver the won prize, then I'll like to alternatively get it over to you

You must admit, I edged you towards the answer with my reply, that you were close to getting the answer but you quickly went off track. Yes, Adam the dead man walking, lost everything at the expense of gaining nothing and knowing nothing.

I am really pleased, it is you who got the answer and won the prize. Well done, my dear sir.

Anas09:
Ignored

MuttleyLaff:
You type veiled comments and subliminal messages, yet you expect me to pretend not seeing and reading them, hmm? To suck them up and not respond back erhn?

Just keep the ignore mode that way. Dont indirectly type comments about the MuttleyLaff moniker ID. Stop making the MuttleyLaff moniker ID the subject of your much petty and local gossip. Dont reply to any comments made by the MuttleyLaff moniker ID and dont again be making indirect comments referring to what the MuttleyLaff moniker ID has done in the past, present or the future. Thanks but no thanks.

MuttleyLaff:
Stop being so scared of the unknown and start being more scared of never knowing. The best thing is not to ignore, but to inquire, ask questions, ask for information from someone. Even if you know a thousand things, ask the one person, who knows the one thing you don't know about

I'll give account for every word I've typed, for every word that proceeds from me and so will each one of yall

michaelkaroh:
This seems to be the favorite line of you new agers.....

Who you calling a new agers huh?

michaelkaroh:
.....You can go with your knowledge, we don't want it

"And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet."
- Matthew 10:14

michaelkaroh:
The only source we seek information from is the word of God as it is the only absolute truth.

... and that is what you'll get

michaelkaroh:
evil communication corrupts good manners. You have no knowledge that is of interest to us Gal 1:8

A candle loses nothing by getting lighted by another candle

michaelkaroh:
your "knowledge" will not save you, only the truth will

"⁷Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good.
⁸To one there is given through the Spirit the message of wisdom, to another the message of knowledge by the same Spirit,
⁹to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit,
¹⁰to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in various tongues, and to still another the interpretation of tongues.
¹¹All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, who apportions them to each one as He determines."
- 1 Corinthians 12:7-10

ichuka:
Lol
U have started playing around too.

No, I never started playing around, you were close to getting the answer but you quickly went off track. If you manage to get the answer, I doubt you'll have a bible verse to hand out to support your answer, but it doesnt mean you wont win the prize giving the answer without a supporting bible verse

ichuka:
For What Profits A Man If He Gains The Whole World But Loses His Own soul.
In one word 'independence '

He thought he'll get independence, but never in the real sense of independence, did he get independence. For a moment there, I thought you got the answer. Phew!

Adasun:
Intercessor: 1 peter 1:19-21

I like your answer, shows you put a lot of thought into it, but no, not the right answer, sorry, try again

michaelkaroh:
He is on a futile task. He even went on to quote his demonic threads. He is busy rejoicing thinking he has asked "hard to answer" questions. Demonic "teachers" full this nairaland sha.

Anas09:
My dear, back in the day, he used to be a sound teacher, or so I thought. I so liked his teachings then. Only I noticed he kicked against Evangelical principles like tithing, holy ghost baptism with the evidence of speaking with other tongues. He fiercely criticized Every known Word of Faith Preacher.

He is Daddy Freeze's buddy. All these, I watched silently.
I never knew the guy was gay or, as they call him, a homosexualist.

The best thing to do is ignore him.

Stop being so scared of the unknown and start being more scared of never knowing. The best thing is not to ignore, but to inquire, ask questions, ask for information from someone. Even if you know a thousand things, ask the one person, who knows the one thing you don't know about

I'll give account for every word I've typed, for every word that proceeds from me and so will each one of yall

EmperorHarry:
Well Muttley it so happens that there are different accounts by different people in the bible and as such there are contradictory passages that aim to illustrate a particular occurrence or occasion but with slight/major irregularities.
I actually made an effort to eliminate this misinterpretation but decided not to. Genesis 2 from 3 or 4 is the second account of the creation story centered around a garden of eden which wasn't in the initial account in 1 and part of 2. God created man to keep and dress the garden and after sometime observed that Adam was lonely and in need of companionship.This suggests that Adam was created first and not the same time as Eve. This can be used to corroborate gender inequality from a biblical stance which is a shame really.

I am sorry if my first post came across to you, as scathing and razor-edged. That wasnt the intention, it's nothing personal aimed at you, but just me being blunt.

Now what you perceive as different account by different people, is a case of, just adding flesh to the bones account

Now I guess you are going to turn out to be among those who believe that Adam was then first created, as a hermaphrodite, hmm?

EmperorHarry:
I dunno Muttley, you tell me?. I don't get what your driving at.

You leave the best for the last. The woman, God's masterpiece, is the most memorable accomplishment of God's creation career or lifetime, is what I am driving at. She from the word go, has always been part of God's plan

EmperorHarry:
A confusion that made the OP ask such questions and I'm not convinced about the infallibility of the bible.

You should be convinced about the infallibility of the bible, but not translations etcetera

EmperorHarry:
The number of animals that should enter the ark before the great flood.

Much ado over nothing. Look towards genus/genera, thats how it was done by Noah.

EmperorHarry:
The genealogy of Jesus from Matthew and Luke. This is off the top of head but you can google about this for more examples.

There is nothing untoward in the genealogy of Jesus from Matthew and Luke. If you know the genealogy of Jesus from Matthew and Luke, you know. Who no know, no go know. Its as simple as that EmperorHarry.

Goshen360:
I can't even respond to you in your comment to me because, you are deep into this law thing and you're just jump quoting scriptures from left to right, from old to new WITHOUT RIGHTLY DIVIDING the word of truth.

I just don't have the energy right now to dismantle your errors but I believe I'll have time and energy someday. We can dig it out then.

Enjoy your errors, until then.

Well spotted

providence338:
Okay. That's all I ask. If I'm in error, I'll humbly repent to God and ask forgiveness from anyone I might have led astray with the insistence of obeying God's laws. Including each and every one of you in this thread.

1/ Will you be selling your daughter as slave?
2/ Why aren't you determined on buying male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you, hmm?
3/ Have you stoned to death yet a same sex attraction person?
4/ Do you see yourself as impure for 7 days when having your monthly period?
5/ Why do you enjoy eating catfish, shrimps, lobsters, crabs, ham, bacon, belly pork, pepperoni in pizzas etcetera
6/ If you or your hubby wear spectacles, what are you then doing near the altar (i.e. Leviticus 21:17-23)

providence338:
I don't know everything, but if I'm not rightly dividing the word, then someone please SHOW ME my error. Instead of "ignoring" me, accusing me of being "argumentative", or simply proclaiming I'm in error with no sufficient proof to back it up, I'm still waiting for someone to SHOW ME my error, as per the scriptures.

To rightly divide the word, is to understand scriptures IN THEIR PROPER CONTEXT.
You need the Bible to interpret the Bible. It must interpret itself.
Line upon line, precept upon precept, here a little, there a little.

God's law, statues and commandments are discussed in virtually every book of the Bible. But I've noticed every single person who says the laws are "done away with" pull only from the writings of just Paul. Thus overlooking scriptures from Genesis (Gen 26:5) to Revelation (Rev 14:12) that clearly tell us to keep God's laws.

Paul's letters must be in agreement with the rest of scripture. For those who somehow think the OT doesn't count anymore, even the NT has many scriptures instructing us to keep the law. Including countless scriptures from Paul himself, whom you all say "did away with the law".

How can you say I'm not rightly dividing when I've used a body of scriptures to prove the existence of God's laws, yet you can only defend otherwise from ONE APOSTLE'S writings? Are you sure you're not guilty of the very thing you accuse me of?

Anywhoo, I don't blame you. I was under this deception myself. This is not a milk teaching. Go to God in prayer about this. Ask the Holy Spirit to guide you into ALL TRUTH regarding this matter. Holla back when you're ready.

Shalom.

https://i.pinimg.com/150x150/ee/ed/cb/eeedcba20d5a6b3e7e18011036a02d1b.jpg

You honestly dont realise that false modesty is just as bad, if not worse than arrogance.

Goshen360:
I will try to discuss whenever I have the time AND ENERGY. OK.

Shalom

providence338:
Yes, please do so after you've humbled yourself and consulted with the HOLY SPIRIT. OK?

He will testify to all things true.

Amen.

Ouch, yeparipa, a whole agbalagbi Goshen360 na.

providence338:
Greetings brother OKCornel!

We're fine, thanks. I pray you and yours are doing well by the grace of God.
I discern your humility and find your willingness to explore this topic very refreshing.
It makes all this wahala worth it

I must put my reasons for starting this thread in its proper perspective.
You're absolutely correct in that this is NOT an argument, nor about right or wrong.
Thank you for being able to see that.

This discussion began in another thread about dreams and the end time church.
I explained to EMILOYSTAY2 that there is a remnant of the church that will NOT suffer persecution during the tribulation.
For the simple reason that these believers mimic the early church.
This is the church of Philadelphia.

Careful study of this church shows they comprise of the TRUE ISRAELITES, and the gentiles that follow them.
The white ashkenazi jews in the land of Israel right now are NOT THE SONS OF JACOB (there's no such thing as an ashkenazi jew).
These white jews are working hard to build the temple the antichrist will stand in.
They're satan's fake version of God's chosen people.
They adhere to the Babylonian Talmud...NOT THE HOLY TORAH.
The Talmud says the Messiah is boiling in hot excrement among other blasphemous things.
No other book vilifies the Messiah...not even the Koran. It's purely satanic.

The TRUE ISRAELITES are keeping their God's laws, statutes and commandments from days of old.
They shall escape the tribulation by God making a way for them in the wilderness.
They are the church (woman) described in Rev 12.

There are many churches.
But it appears that this church has GOD'S MARK.. His seal of protection.
Because they kept his WORD (TORAH).

This is not a salvation issue. Salvation comes by Grace.
God is blessing those who come to Him, and acknowledge Jesus' work on the cross...
Torah observant or not.
But there's a higher blessing for those who keep Torah.
Something that's coming under increasing attack...

I'm happy to discuss this issue further -- ask me anything, I'll do my best to help!

"¹⁵And having disarmed the powers and authorities, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross.
¹⁶Therefore let no one judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a festival, a New Moon, or a Sabbath.
¹⁷These are a shadow of the things to come, but the body that casts it belongs to Christ"
- Colossians 2:15-17

Then Jesus declared,
"The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath."
- Mark 2:27

"⁹But now that you know God, or rather are known by God, how is it that you are turning back to those weak and worthless principles? Do you wish to be enslaved by them all over again?
¹⁰You are observing special days and months and seasons and years!
¹¹I fear for you, that my efforts for you may have been in vain."
- Galatians 4:9-11

"Don't be led astray by various kinds of strange teachings; for it is good for the heart to be established by grace..."
- Hebrews 13:9a

Asides, the paragraph with the Ashkenazi Jews content, everything else is, you wetting your finger and holding it up in the air

providence338:
Christ said do not commit adultery. This is the 7th commandment.

He went even FURTHER in the SPIRIT OF THE LAW, and said to not even THINK about committing adultery.

Christ said do not murder.

He went even FURTHER in the SPIRIT OF THE LAW, and said to not even have HATE in your heart for your brother.

Herein is the FRUIT of keeping Yah's laws, statutes and commandments..of which I enjoy very much. Thanks

If you are the believer in Christ you purport to be, then you'd do well in doing the same. Bless you.

Belated congrats on your successful delivery of the young king. You and your child are blessed. Now with the relevant niceties having been followed.

Yes, do not commit adultery, is the 7th commandment, it even, is a commandment repeated by Jesus and its true that Jesus said to not even THINK about committing adultery, but Jesus never pronounced any command to believers in regards keeping an end of week day sabbath.

Yes, Christ said do not murder. He went even FURTHER in the SPIRIT OF THE LAW, and said to not even have HATE in your heart for your brother, but still, Jesus never pronounced any command to believers in regards keeping an end of week day sabbath.

If you, dear providence338, are the believer in Christ you purport to be, then you'd do well in not coveting what is not yours. Stop yearning to possess things, like especially desiring something belonging to another, stop aching for and hungering after a command given to a different set of people in a different time zone or era. God bless you more as you do.

providence338:
Who me? (looks around). Argumentative? How so?
I suggest you take your own advice lol. Stop imagining strife where there is none

CaveAdullam asked you who the law was meant to, but you responded by quoting Old testament verses like Num 9:14, 15:16, Exo 12:49, Lev 24:22 back to him, then you contradicted yourself by looking towards Paul for support, by quoting his letters such as, 1 Cor 11:1, 4:16, Phil 3:17 and 1 Thess 1:6, meanwhile a few lines later and below, you are saying: "Everyone here is justifying the eradication of God's laws based on a single man's writings (Paul)" If you so much stand by Paul's words, why not go the whole shebang, hmm?

providence338:
See my posts above. I believe the scriptures provided answers most of your questions.

THERE'S ONE LAW FOR THE ISRAELITES AND THE FOREIGNER

Num 9:14, 15:16, Exo 12:49, Lev 24:22

Well, fyi, all that Num 9:14, 15:16, Exo 12:49, Lev 24:22 jazz are not applicable to foreigners or gentiles who happen to be believers upon hearing the Good News or Gospel

providence338:
In as far as your last statement.. Jesus Christ kept every aspect of the law.
You all quote from apostle Paul so much, but conveniently overlook the fact that he imitated Jesus the LAW-KEEPER, and instructed us to do the same. (1 Cor 11:1, 4:16), (Phil 3:17), (1 Thess 1:6)

Jesus Christ kept every aspect of the law, up until to His death on the cross of calvary

providence338:
That Christ was the "end" of the law doesn't mean the law ceases to exist.
How can something be declared the "end" in one book, but be called "eternal" in another? (Psalm 119:160)

If Christ was the "end" of the law, then why is the Sabbath referenced in the end-time tribulation? (Matt 24:20)?

What if the sabbath word was mentioned or referenced, hmm?. Did you read observing the sabbath anywhere in the Matthew 24:20 mention or reference, erhn?

providence338:
Why are Paul and the apostles still keeping the law, and (rightfully so) instructing gentiles to do the same?
Why is the law going to be observed by EVERYBODY during the millennial reign, with Christ as our ruler in Zion?


"THE LAW SHALL GO FORTH FROM ZION AND THE WORD OF THE LORD FROM JERUSALEM" (Isa 2:3, Mic 4:2)

It is the new law that is going to be observed by EVERYBODY during the millennial reign, with Christ as our ruler in Zion

providence338:
Everyone here is justifying the eradication of God's laws based on a single man's writings (Paul).
This poses a serious problem. The Word of God cannot be broken.
If Paul is saying "the law is done away with", we should see similar language by the other authors. We don't.
Christ HIMSELF said he didn't do away with the law but to "fulfill" it....and not ONE dot or tittle shall pass from the law until HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS AWAY AND ALL IS ACCOMPLISHED.

It seems you're one of those, who have a vendetta against Paul and so a bone to pick with him, hmm?

providence338:
Has heaven and earth passed away?
Has all been accomplished?

Christ is the "end" of the law is not what you think it means. the Bible interprets itself. It can't be praised, extolled, and observed by the same man who supposedly said it ended (Rom 7:12). This calls for further study on your part.

I challenge you to read other online Bible versions of Matt 5:17, and also see what "fulfill" in the concordance means (G4137)

https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G4137&t=NKJV

"²There He was transfigured before them. His face shone like the sun, and His clothes became as white as the light.
³Suddenly Moses and Elijah appeared before them, talking with Jesus."
- Matthew 17:2-3

"I tell you," Jesus added,
"John is greater than anyone who has ever lived. But the one who is least in the Kingdom of God is greater than John."
- Luke 7:28

Here you are bring up lexicon, but do you understand the meaning of and know the implication of Matthew 17:2-3 above hmm? I mean the significance of Moses and Elijah appearing before the inner caucus and talking with Jesus, hmm?

My dearie sister, I tell you if you really do understand the meanings of Matthew 17:2-3 and Luke 7:28 above, you wouldnt be quoting or sign posting people to Matthew 5:17

Please dont get it twisted providence338, Paul in Romans 7:12, is merely saying one is release by a new, superior and more powerful law from an old, holding back, slowing one down, holding one back, inhibiting and interfering with one's progress law. The law of gravity is made redundant, made useless, made irrelevant, made look like nothing, made inoperable, made to look like as if dead made etcetera when faced with a superior law, a more powerful law, a senior law, a stronger law, the law of aerodynamics

CaveAdullam:
If I should ignore this mention, it will seems to you that you have made a point, but however, due to the fact that the classic specimen of a human being is doing justice to this matter at hand I will still ignore you.

You can however choose to be my guest.

Good day.

Thanks.

God bless.

providence338:
Lol. Can't rebut the written word eh?

You don't ignore me -- but then written word of the Most High.

I'm not the one who said we should imitate Christ...the ultimate Law Keeper himself.

But no problem. Good day to you too. Blessings.

"He brought an end to the commandments and demands found in Moses' Teachings (i.e. abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances) so that he could take Jewish and non-Jewish people and create one new humanity in himself. So he made peace"
- Ephesians 2:15

FOLYKAZE:
Since you are asking what Adam alone gained, I think it should be Patriarch Gen 1:17

I am sorry, I actually mean, what is it exactly both of them gained aside death, morality, deity, patriarchy/matriarchy etcetera.

I like and appreciate how you tried supporting your answer with a bible verse. It makes the answer look more credible. Thank you.

Liveair:
And where is she today? This reflects so poorly on a God who makes all sort of lofty promises to save those who call on him. What a God you believe in!

She is in a better place than you'll ever know and dream of

NwaAmaikpe:


Worshiping in truth and spirit simply means being true to yourself and not thinking with your carnal mind but being led by the spirit.

It means, when you go to church with the intent to give N100 as offering even when you know you won't have transport fare back home that you shouldn't.

You should be true to yourself to know you can't afford it and also spiritually mature to know that God doesn't need your N100 to be God.

I didnt know know, I'll ever say somebori please give NwaAmaikpe, of all posters, an "oti sẹwọn" chilled cold bottle of orijin and a truckload of kolanuts.

Kingsley10000:
una don start this una mumu thread again

Its not a mumu thread, if there is a prize to win, for the first correct answer, besides this is a first, for a thread like this Kingsley10000 and if you're not in it, you can't win the prize.

Goshen360:
If you know....share with US....lol....na u Sabi......I'm in my feeling now....it's weekend n I'm not in scripture mood, I'm in weekend mood....lol

Let's give everyone a good chance of having a crack at this Goshen360. People can have as many go at the answer.

Water cuts through rock, not because of its strength or power, but because of its persistence.

Ndukings92:
Am opportune to be with friends today and one thing lead to another and we end up deliberating on this issue,I want to know what our Religious section have to say on this

Yes, the woman was from the word go, part of the initial plan of God. Ndukings92, why would you think that the woman was not part of the initial plan of God, hmm?

EmperorHarry:
In my opinion, the co-author of the creation story needs to be flogged mercilessly for trying to undermine the importance of women due to the societal ideologies at the time. A God can't make all things with the male and female model even flowered plants and then create only the male version of his most prized creation. Does that sound reasonable even to you of supposed insignificant intelligence when compared to a being with the God title.

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Genesis:1:27

Now the 2nd account of creation story in CH 2 had a much needed storyline involving the serpent and the fall of man hence it's addition to the bible. This chapter brings about this unnecessary confusion and in my opinion needs to be discarded. Something similar to this (contradictory accounts) can be found in other parts of the bible. Choose wisely

EmperorHarry, please stop being melodramatic and start being clear and sensible, like:
1/ Who is the co-author of the creation story that needs to be flogged mercilessly you're talking about?
2/ Where did you learn that God created only the male version of his most prized creation?
3/ Where have you put God's pièce de résistance, the best, most important and exciting thing created by God ever walking, hmm?
4/ How do you mean, Genesis chapter 2 brings about unnecessary confusion and in your opinion needs to be discarded, hmm?
5/ What "similar to this (contradictory accounts) can be found in other parts of the bible" are you referring to or talking of here, hmm?

Goshen360:
Adam did not EAT any FRUIT. Moses wasn't born yet when he described Genesis 1 so you have to trust God in the form of God who was before Genesis 1 to explain the fruit and eat etc....

What a man eats does not defile him.....Christ said so Adam could not have been defiled by just EATING....per say....it wasn't a fruit.

Just my two cents....lol

C'mon now Goshen360, whether the fruit is metaphor or not metaphor, Adam did eat a frigging fruit, so aside from the promised and/or guaranteed death, what other main thing, in one word and preferrably supported with a scriptural verse, really did Adam gain or get, from eating of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil?

FOLYKAZE:
Adam becomes deity

Yes FOLYKAZE, Adam became a deity, as it were and so that's a fact and truth because man became god the moment soon after eating fruit, but aside from the reportedly gained morality, or the promised and/or guaranteed death, what other main thing, in one word and preferrably supported with a scriptural verse, really did Adam gain or get, from eating of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil?

ichuka:
Ok
IDeath.

Aside from the promised and/or guaranteed death, what other main thing, in one word and preferrably supported with a scriptural verse, really did Adam gain or get, from eating of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil?

FOLYKAZE:
Morality

Aside from the reportedly gained morality, what other main thing, in one word and preferrably supported with a scriptural verse, really did Adam gain or get, from eating of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil?

bellong:
It is well with you.

You do understand and know that unless one asks questions, answers will not, just like that ever come or magically ever come. bellong, seriously please consider this because when one close mind, like you do, answers wont come and nothing can be gained

Do you notice bellong, that throughout Eve's encounter with the serpent on that fateful day, not a single question, did Eve ask anyone whilst standing there with the serpent being duped, shafted and bamboozled, hmm?

jesusjnr:
As for the saying of the OP concerning an encounter with God, I knew it wasn't from God but drawn from his own opinion concerning something he had seen concerning me. So i saw it as very insulting for him to now talk of me having an encounter with God because of an opinion he had concerning my own opinion, as though he were God.

For i disagreed with his opinion concerning T.B Joshua but didn't say that he needed an encounter with God because of that but just made my opinion known, so he should have done same with his opinion even if I don't agree with it. So that was my point concerning the "encounter" with God he talked about, for i don't do such encounters. Moreover i believe there's a point in one's relationship with God that encounters stops and walk commences.

As for Apostle Paul you know what you mean by the level of his walk with God, but I see him as my colleague in the Spirit, for there's nothing he had that I don't have or gave that I've not given, so he's no different from me even though we came at different times. So if he prays that he wants to know God, he knows what he means. I know God but I want to know Him more even to the extent that I am completely in sync with His Ways, Word and Thoughts just as my Master Jesus was. And this is my earnest desire.

Concerning criticism, I do listen to criticisms but I believe that it's my perogative to choose which is right or wrong and not that if I listen but don't follow it because I think they are unfounded or not wise, that means I am not open to criticisms.

The level I walk at spiritually it's very difficult for most to comprehend, for it's just like Peter rebuking Jesus for trying to do the will of God thinking he was right. So that Jesus shut down Peter didn't mean that He didn't listen to criticisms but that for Peter to be able to comprehend what Jesus was doing meant Peter needed to upgrade to the level of the Spirit that Jesus walked at. Hence the saying of Jesus for him "deny himself" etc.

The inspiration behind the jesusjnr moniker is because I rep His Words for if you see my signature and follow most of my comments here you would pretty much always see me pointing people to His Words, for I believe that it ought to be the standard for those of the church.

It's easier said than done but thanks for your effort.

Really appreciate. God bless you.

bellong:
It is well.

What exactly in all that is posted there, is it that you typed "it is well" to, hmm?. I am just curious ni, ooo, erhn?
Is it where he is trying to justify with Peter rebuking Jesus for going about to do the will of God, that same Jesus, turned round to castigate the spirit behind Peter ni, hmm? Jesus gave Peter and the spirit infleuencing him a piece of His mind, by saying:"Get thee behind me satan"

Is it him talking about his opinions, hmm? When opinions are useless and meaningless, when in front of or faced with facts erhn. Or when 2 Corinthians 10:5, says, we destroy arguments and every lofty opinion raised against the knowledge of God, and take every thought captive to obey Christ.

Do you know what we call opinion, to the exclusion of facts? We call it biased opinion.

Dont be taken in, by any shameful crocodile tears or any false show of emotion. Ever heard, the saying "keep your grass cut short, to see the snakes" I'll do just that and keep the snake(s) in my sight

Shepherd00:
Here we go again.
Watch it guys, he will soon turn this thread to a homosexuality thread.
Oh God.

Pesin wey no one dey chase am, we dey run helter skelter jaapa all over the place

Shepherd00:
Guys, pls do well to ignore MuttleyLaff. Before long he will be all over here preaching homosexuality. Pls cast him back to hell where he belongs.

Mister Johnny come lately, who hasnt read the memo. If you want to hide information ffrom this guy, just put it in a post. He has trouble challenges with reading posts.

MuttleyLaff:
Why should I post them? You should know the lies, especially, if you have a working conscience

You're making as if I solicited for people to take sides

You dont need nor require my help. Its the Holy Spirit, you need, who will convict you in regard to sin (i.e. missing the mark about certain set of people) and righteousness and judgment

I dont need support in any campaign. I am just a solitary candlelight

That bridge has long been passed under and besides, I have been until when told otherwise, taken off that assignment

I have no thread. I dont personalise threads as mine

You type veiled comments and subliminal messages, yet you expect me to pretend not seeing and reading them, hmm? To suck them up and not respond back erhn?

If you have evidence(s), please post examples of the alleged taunts and subtile and direct insults I've made at you, hmm?

Most people start showing sign of caring when its too late

MuttleyLaff:
I have until further notice being relieved from that duty and/or assignment. I guess you're happy and can breathe a good sigh of relief that no more "fiam" until further notice, from me anymore, on that subject, erhn? Excuse the "breathe" pun, too tempting not to seize the opportunity not to take advantage of using it considering subject matter has to to do spirit and breath...

Shepherd00:
... Stop responding to him EnthronedbyGod.

Whats with this one commanding EnthronedbyGod to stop responding to anyone, as if EnthronedbyGod hasnt got his/her own mind to make by himself/herself.
SMH. Pesin wey they run scaredy cat, sweating like a pig in sweater, when no one dey chase am. What a pififul sight to behold

EnthronedbyGod:
As I said I'm not foolish��.
If you watch my last statement i said, I don't like arguments.

The response wasn't actually only for him, but for others, so that they don't get misled.

"It is a forgivable mistake to think I participate in theological argument.
I dont do arguments, and I dont intend to start doing arguments with you"
- Re: Interceding in Tongues by oyeludef(m): 3:34pm On Oct 06, 2018

"I dont do arguments
I've already said, if you feel its splitting hairs, we can put on okra soup and jettison this ewedu.
What more do you what?
Please, spare me, sly innuendoes."
- Re: The Problem With Moderate Atheists by MuttleyLaff: 12:13am On Oct 01, 2018

"Buda.atum. I dont do arguments. LOL.
I am sure you know why I dont do arguments."
- Re: Mary Is Not The Mother Of God by MuttleyLaff: 9:51pm On Sep 19, 2018

"We've been doing this lane before
because you quite well, know that I dont do arguments Ruth."
- Re: Why Didnt God Kill Satan From The Onset? by RuthlessLeader(m): 11:37am On Oct 27, 2018

"Suit yourself.
You know me by now, that I don't and never do arguments. I have all along being presenting bare incontrovertible facts, asked easy, simple and straightforward questions which all those I ask like them jesusjn.r, elated.177, shepherd.00 etcetera just duck, ignore and/or avoid answering them.

I owe only TV0.1 the response anyway, as it is only him who had the huge swinging balls and temerity to want to stand toe to toe with me and also engage in an arm wrestle. I see him as one who wouldn't dodge questions asked him and so would sincerely be a good sport."
- Homosexuality, the greatest joy of Satan and the demons. by MuttleyLaff: 2:20pm On May 30

"Number 1, I dont do argument and there is a very good reason for that, to me
Number 2, unlike you, I dont have a truculent bone in my body
Number 3, truth needs no argument"
- Re: Why Did The God Tell Abraham To Sacrifice His Child by MuttleyLaff: 9:20am On Feb 01

"We destroy arguments and every lofty opinion raised against the knowledge of God, and take every thought captive to obey Christ"
- 2 Corinthians 10:5

"We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ."
- 2 Corinthians 10:5

"Overthrowing arguments, and every high thing lifting itself up against the knowledge of God, and taking captive every thought into the obedience of Christ"
- 2 Corinthians 10:5

You dont like argument(s), whereas, as you can see from the above quotations, I have proof of, not into doing arguments. What I do, is have meaningful and healthy discussions and then, when necessary, enforce 2 Corinthians 10:5, on to destroy, demolish and/or overthrow arguments with. Yes! I do a pick from any of the three above translations, to neutralise ungodly opinions with facts, destroy or obliterate lies from the pit of hell with real truth(s)

MuttleyLaff:
... and what exactly was their position that they made, if I may ask you, hmm?

Are you sure, Jesus never confronted the Pharisees, hmm?

Except with Jesus, there is no such thing as a free lunch. Fact is, although not advisable or recommended, but he who, at all, wants to dine with the devil, ought to do so, with a long spoon, when eating with the devil

EnthronedbyGod:
His first problem with the Pharisees was in Matthew 9 and Mark 2.
First they accused Him of eating with publicans and sinners, secondly they said He casts out devil's through beelzebub.

They made their position known by their first impression.

Nope, the problem, goes way way back and long away from Matthew 9 and Mark 2. EnthronedbyGod, I know you're itching to know the scriptural verse that attests to this, but maybe pride might get the better of you from asking

EnthronedbyGod:
I don't like arguments, any one reading this can check up the scriptures and confirm

You dont like arguments, but I just dont do arguments. Anyway, as I previously have said, I know you're itching to know the scriptural verse that attests and confirms that the problem started way, way way back from Matthew 9 and Mark 2, but maybe pride might get the better of you from asking