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generationz:
Baba I hail o


The checklist prayer; my type of prayer.

The people of "the world", they don't know warris going on

You just continue with your hustle, cross your legs and tell God what you want in a partner. In a few months, boom baba will just special package the person to cross your part, somehow somehow.
They don't know warris going on.
I have always said, finding a spouse is the easiest thing for a Christian who has the Holy Spirit and understands that prayer is communication between father and child.

That is the easiest part of marriage. The though part then come in the journey itself because no one is perfect. That one can even be easy if you download expo from baba himself ( if you know what I'm talking about).

Alas it is the hardest part even for Christians. They would rather do sampling and resampling. Waste time they would have used for profitable things. Suffer emotional torture.

It is true "they don't know warris going on" but "eventuarry" they will I pray, because having a wife is not beans, not many men can handle, in her own right, a badass, strong, opinionated, powerful, successful and intelligent virtuous woman. I am beginning to think and doubt from this brother's comments that he has the capacity and grace for such a woman as a wife

LoJ:
Hello Muttley, thanks for your post.

You're welcome bro

LoJ:
I do not see the link between what you wrote (mainly about 2 Nigerian revered prophets) and my post you quoted.

Thank you for making me legitimately laugh out loud at those two scammers you referred to as "2 Nigerian revered prophets" Keep on reading further on, as in, next below, to see the link and what my complaint is about.

LoJ:
Care to explain?

When pesin dey cry, pesin still dey take eyes see road.

Nigeria, the most populous black country in the whole world wide place with almost a 200 million population and the country, has not positively benefited from an indigenous single person's contribution as a result of his/her vast knowledge of all these memerism, alchemy, etcetera and whatnot crafts. Na wa o. Hin come be like say matter, na like Alfa Imam, wey no get bia-bia, or prophet wey no sabi God case. The whole thing is just three much. Much ado about nothing. This is what I was hoping you'll be kind enough to explain away. Nigeria, from God knows when, is plagued with myriad of problems, what benefit has all these esoteric paths been to Naija, its citizenry, their holistic wellbeing and welfare hmm LoJ?

budaatum:
Do note that only 4 people have responded so far!

budaatum:
Please note that FOLYKAZE is the closest to the right answer and would have received half £100 for half right answer if that had been the promise!
Resits are allowed!

FOLYKAZE:
Where is Bishop MuttleyLaff? Come chop this £100 make you use am pay for my voucher

LoJ:
The good Foly has essentially said the same thing I did. I fail to see the difference, except in length and number of Bible verses.

When is the final answer coming out?

FOLYKAZE:
I have been waiting like forever for the price.
Hey Loj, i have been trying to experience Astral projection about two weeks now but it is not working. I just want to know what it feels like. Tried doing it late in the night and at dawn but none worked, I end up sleeping deep. What can I do to have this experience?

"Your money flies away before you know it, just like an eagle suddenly taking off."
- Proverbs 23:5

"Teach those who are rich in this world not to be proud and not to trust in their money, which is so unreliable. Their trust should be in God, who richly gives us all we need for our enjoyment."
- 1 Timothy 6:17

budaatum, the prize is going to be shared among the three bounty hunters LoJ, FOLYKAZE and I because my answer is nothing will be in the vault. Thats my resit done, as wealth gotten by vanity shall be diminished, so zilch, nada "korofo", no shishi will be in the vault

budaatum:
Pitstop. On my way home.

That's "the Wickham Arms" on Upper Brockley Road, isnt it?

LoJ:
The alchemist studies the "blocks" or the universe.

Why are Lego so popular as toy for children? They are made of bricks / blocks which you can assemble to form whatever you want. In the same way, Democritus demonstrated that the universe is made of blocks which brought together constitute all that we know or are yet to know.

The alchemist therefore learns how to bring together the blocks of the cosmos to create a desired reality. The ultimate aim being Godhood.

Unfortunately, the craft seem to be disappearing. Because of the bad reputation associated with alchemist con men, people had less and less vocation for alchemy and went for other traditions.

I am yet to see a true alchemist from the order of the greats, although I am certain there still are some.

"I previously have intimated here on NL, that TB Joshua makes use of "remote control" which this beloved Ibiyeomie, who doesnt miss a trick, uses too also.

"Remote control" is a technique to watch out for during some fake healing sessions also used in gatherings to bamboozle the gullibles with. This is when the "healer" stands ten feet or so away from unsuspecting "healees" and then manipulates the "healee's" movements with hand motions, for example, by scooting hand to the left or right, the "healee" irresistibly seems drawn to the left, or to the right. Also with the circling movement of the "healer's" hands, the "healee" is manipulated into a circle, and eventually ends up falling down into a dazed heap after a moment of spiralling out of control

"Point of contact" is another technique to watch out for. It like the "remote control" are occult healing practices and they both, are techniques adopted which are closely related to a control technique termed "mesmerism". "Mesmerism" is named after Franz Anton Mesmer (i.e. 1734-1815) an Austrian physician, who believed the human nervous system to be magnetized and so would wave his hands in front of his patients, believing that a magnetic force emanated from his hands.

These two above mentioned techniques among others, are easily spotted, used on local and international recorded satellite healing TV or YouTube broadcasts"
- Re: Pastor Turns Speaker To Living Thing It Fights Members VIDEO by MuttleyLaff: 8:30am On Mar 14

Nigeria, the most populous black country with almost a 200 million population and the country, except for the at least two scammers mentioned in above red inverted commas, has not positively benefited from an indigenous single person's vast knowledge of all these memerism, alchemy, etcetera and whatnot crafts. Na wa o. Hin come be like say matter, na like Alfa Imam, wey no get bia-bia, or prophet wey no sabi God case. The whole thing is just three much. Much ado about nothing.

Anas09:
Ermm!!? So much sex, violence, demonism was portrayed in the Bible? Portrayed in good or bad light?

Where applicable they are portrayed in good or bad light

Anas09:
Bros, I will like you and I to peruse these passages you are referring to and see lf they portrays sex, violence, demonism etc, if these activities were promoted by the Bible and if they were presented in a manner that will attract the readers to desire to do them. It is only on this premise that we can attest to whether a reader can be manipulated and influenced hence possessed just by reading them. I think this will suffice.

"¹⁶Everything in the Scriptures is God's Word. All of it is useful for teaching and helping people and for correcting them and showing them how to live.
¹⁷The Scriptures train God's servants to do all kinds of good deeds."
- 2 Timothy 3:16-17

There is sex, violence, demonism etcetera portrayed in the Bible. What you read about them in the Bible are useful for teaching, for convincing, for correction of error and for instruction in right doing. Reading them in the Bible, will never open up your life to demonic manipulation or demonic influence and from manipulation, you get to oppression and from oppression to possession which is the highest has alleged by OP

This is why I typed that OP saying, yes, isnt a correct answer, but if OP had said, its possible, demonic spirit can have an effect on someone just by reading what they write, then it would have been a better and more accurate made statement.
And as I previously further had typed about asking OP, if there's not so much sex, violence, demonism, potrayed in the Bible, hmm? Of course, they are in the Bible, take for example, Noah raped by his two daughters, or should we say its incestous sex, Simeon and Levi' violent killing of the people of Shechem, the demonic possession of Judas, when Satan entered him after he took the bread etcetera. We read all these and more, in the Bible, and without being negatively affected and/or badly influenced by them

Anas09:
The bolded is why I said 'Odiegwu O', because I never knew that books, movies, and even clothing materials could be enchanted hence transfer demonic spirits to those who contacted them

Unfortunately, some of us have impressionable minds. Watch this, when what looks like a gun, has a trigger or not on it, except one is a gun/arms expert, who would calmly permit such object to be pointed at him/her, hmm? So is with these, you're susceptible to what you open your mind to and surrender yourself to have negative influence on but to prevent a tall tree's twig from shooking one's eye, one watches the tree from afar. Look at Eve now, imagine what could have happened, if she kept her distance or watched the Tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil from afar, instead of standing gidigba close to the tree, hmm? If you know, you're strong and capable of withstanding, then go ahead and look the devil in the eye.

Anas09:
This is the primary reason I didn't want to respond to you, because I knew if I did, we'd fight. I don't want to fight any one I love.

Besides the fact that I never fight women, what I do know, which I can count on one hand, is that, all I've had with you were sparring sessions and no lethal drop-shots.

Anas09:
Back in the days when this place still had men, there were very few monikers I looked for everytime I came online, you were the 1st. Gradually my people dropped out, but you remained. But, when I saw homosexuality associated with you, I was crushed.

As you know, I am no more at liberty to talk of that subject. I dont have the clearance nor authorisation to comment on whatever you think is associated with the MuttleyLaff moniker ID

Anas09:
I won't go into it any more.

Good call.

CaveAdullam:
AMP:Therefore if any person is [ingrafted] in Christ (the Messiah) he is a new creation (a new creature altogether); the old [previous moral and spiritual condition] has passed away. Behold, the fresh and new has come!
2 Corinthians 5:17

I concur with you. But as the OP will say, we cannot all agree on the same thing.

It is better to forge ahead with your new life in Christ than look for ways to repay your past sins when Christ Jesus has sets you free.

Restitution ti long ti stressful............. Can any really fulfill the demands of Restitution i.e from birth till you became born again?

Let the Holy Spirit leads.

Thanks.

God bless.

EnthronedbyGod:
1- That's not the meaning of that verse - Old things( sins forgiving, our old nature in Adam passed away) , all things become new( New nature in Christ).

2- It has nothing to do with repaying for past sins, for no man can repay for sins, cos Christ has already paid for it, but rather having a conscience void of offence towards God and man.

3- No man can restitute for all he has done for that's impossible and unrealistic, but sometimes the Holy Spirit brings some things to our memory so that we can make our ways right.
Jesus said the prince of this world cometh and hath nothing in me.

CaveAdullam, your quoted 2 Corinthians 5:17 is a relevant verse. We have become a brand new person, the old self is shed

How long is a piece of string. I agree with you that restitution is too long, is too stressful and that its best to let the Holy Spirit lead and guide one, just as I previously mentioned about Zacchaeus, who instead of the normal restitution law (i.e. Leviticus 6:4-5 or Numbers 5:6-7) that demanded one must make full restitution for a particular sin, by paying the value of the sin/crime and on top, add a fifth of the sin's value to it, Zacchaeus was lead by the Spirit to give half of his property to the poor and pay four times as much as he owed, to those he had defrauded and/or cheated on, in any way, so if the total value plus fifth value amounted to $100 then means Zacchaeus actually paid out $400 instead of $100. He not only restituted but also paid back his victims with compensation, which is a form of recognition of loss, suffering or injury he caused his victims. Not to forget, also gave away half of his posssesion to the poor. Did OP who was thumping his chest, that he did such and nothing happened to him, that most of his victims didn't even collect back the items he returned, as they were even happy he contacted them because God had gone before him, to soften their hearts, done better Zacchaeus', hmm? Did OP add a fifth on top of the original value before going to these people erhn? Did OP give half of all his possessions to the poor hmm? Yeah, right I never thought OP did either of the two how Zacchaeus did.

Now, being that restituition has been done by Jesus Christ for us, as I've earlier said, and, as you've said too, then only do what you have to do, as in, do as you're being persuaded and/or led by the Holy Spirit to do.

EnthronedbyGod:
Do you mean if you defrauded me of #5m and I see you after 3 years , I wouldn't arrest you, because you have become born again claiming Christ has washed away your sins.
My brother if you did such and I caught you when I was an unbeliever I would lock you up in jail and forget you.

Whats the relevant of this comment. Na pesin wey no get shishi, go repay you back after defrauding you 3 years ago kwa? Las las na only lock up somebori for jail una fit sabi do, and the brother will do evangelism for cell spread the gospel and for the glory of God too.

CodeTemplar:
3 John 1:2 -
Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.

Here we see that prosperity isn't only for our pocket but for us, our health and our soul.

"For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the LORD, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end."
- Jeremiah 29:11

The wording, prosper, in that your quoted 3 John 1:2 verse actually means, progress, as in, forward or onward movement towards an expected destination. God's aim, as echoed in Jeremiah 29:11 above is that we all come to a positive and expected end, have a healthy body, a wealthy soul and spirit.

CodeTemplar:
Joshua 1:8 King James Version (KJV) -
This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success.

Our ways too deserve to be prosperous and the key to that was given as the continual application of God's word or book. The continual use of God's word in our heart is brought about by continual meditation on Gods word.

It shows us that true prosperity is preceded by doing God's word and doing God's word is enabled and preceded by meditation upon it.

"Don’t love money; be satisfied with what you have.
For God has said, “I will never fail you. I will never abandon you."
- Hebrews 13:5

"Certainly, the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil. Some people who have set their hearts on getting rich have wandered away from the Christian faith and have caused themselves a lot of grief."
- 1 Timothy 6:10

"And he went on to say to them all, "Watch out and guard yourselves from every kind of greed;
because your true life is not made up of the things you own, no matter how rich you may be".
(i.e. life is not about having a lot of material possessions.)
- Luke 12:15

Prosperity isn't all about material possessions or money but this is what Prosperity Gospel (PG) preachers draw attention to and put the spotlight on.

CodeTemplar:
Next time we hear about prosperity preachers let's not be quick to jump into the conclusion of money prosperity. Prosperity goes well beyond money. In Job 2:4-5 after Satan had attacked Job's possessions and material things in Job 1 but Job remained with God, and Satan was forced to attack his health or health prosperity as a higher target while looking desperately for what will turn him against God.
His health wasn't enough to turn him against God though according to Job 42.

Prosperity goes well beyond money, brethren be warned!

Honesty is the rarest wealth anyone can possess. You're either dishonest or naive, if when you hear about prosperity preachers and their glib, you dont know that they are preaching a perversion of the gospel, the sort popularised by the Word of Faith Movement.

When wealth is lost, nothing is lost. When health is lost, something is lost. When character is lost, all is lost. Satan went after Job's wealth in vain, then next, focused on to Job's health, but still to no avail, and this all because Job's character remained intact. Job was able to prevail because the most important thing which is his character didnt crumble. Job had a wealthy soul and spirit.

The Prosperity Gospel (PG) preachers dont as much talk about any wealthy soul and spirit but rather put the emphasis on financial blessing to the detriment of the more important aspects of the whole matter. Wealthy soul and spirit are played down in favour of finacial blessing or money and/or material possesions.

Some many instances in the Bible, like Matthew 6:19 advises for very good reasons: ""Do not lay up treasures for yourselves on the earth, where moth and rust consume, and where thieves break through and steal." Some people are so poor, because all they have on earth is their money and nothing else stored up for them in heaven

CodeTemplar:
A sick man will give all his wealth in exchange for health.

Without health, the power and means to acquire wealth diminishes

CodeTemplar:
God wants us to be prosperous.

Prosperity, from God's perspective, in the sense of, coming to a positive and expected end is God's thoughts for us.

Prosperity Gospel (PG) preachers always mislead and exploit the sheeple with good yarns that putting down seed faith money for multiplication, giving obligatory ecclesiastical tithing etcetera will increase one's chance of having financial breakthroughs, money and/or material wealth.

EmperorHarry:
Bernie Sanders: ‘I think everyone believes in God in their own ways. To me, it means that all of us are connected … and that we are all tied together.’

If every God hating mofo could read this and understand that God's not just about a he/she/it that controls existence. They'd realise how myopic they really are. I've been literally thinking of summing up a write up about this.

You are right that God's not just about a he/she/it that controls existence, but God is I AM I AM, as in meaning, God will be whatever is necessary for God to be and I find it interesting that in spite of God not just about a he/she/it, God does choose to be addressed, seen and perceived as a He. Why is that?

Myopic and narrow dogmas, fit rather well into narrow minds

Oche211:
You are chasing the wrong women sir.

Ojiniman:
Yeah, figured as much.

Dont relent. I am going to let you in on a little secret. I prayed to God with a checklist of what I want and need in a missus. Within a short while, less than six months after, God answered my prayer with everything, just as I asked on the list, checked. The first day, I met my missus, it was a conscious attempt with a friend, to go out, to meet girls, so we jumped into our cars, and boom, that was how I bumped into my missus and the rest is history.

So my dear fellow, do the prayer, remember to specify your wants and/or needs, then go out and about, alert and of course, with eyes peeled wide open. Doing the slide into someone’s DM in order to register interest, is allowed and game too.

CodeTemplar:
You are dealing with someone who said Jesus was not a servant of God.

"God, having raised up His servant, Jesus, sent Him to you first, to bless you, in turning away everyone of you from your wickedness."
- Acts 3:26

"⁵Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus:
⁶Who, existing in the form of God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,
⁷but emptied Himself, taking the form of a servant, being made in human likeness.
⁸And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to death—even death on a cross."
- Philippians 2:5-8

finalboss:
Long thread, I stopped reading when you said holy Mary is the same as Allah. Boy you know nothing

You woke very early because you actually stopped reading at page 2 then if thats when and where you stopped. Wow. I remember reading those comments and just smh. Itching ears like gossips and enjoy salacious stories anyway.

EnthronedbyGod:
Yes, what you read or watch or listen to can open up your life to demonic manipulation or demonic influence and from manipulation you get to oppression and from oppression to possession which is the highest.

Why do you think so many adverts, movies, cartoons, music videos, e.t.c portray so much sex, violence, demonism , e.t.c. ?, most of these stuffs have negative effects on ones subconscious.

The Bible says neither give place to the devil, it also says we aren't ignorant of the devil's devices.

Anas09:
Hmmmm. Odiegwu o

EnthronedbyGod:
That doesn't mean you should be scared , for He that is in you, is greater than he that's in the world.

Anas09:
No sir, I'm not scared. I have over grown being threatened by satan.

He just tends to put his foot in his mouth, doesnt he

Anas09:
I know what it means to sit in Heavenly Places far above Principalities and Powers. I know what happens in the sphare of the Principalities and o know that except I look down and get involved on what they do, they won't have access to me.

I am in heaven, the Church, I look up.

"and do not give the devil a foothold
(i.e. don't give give room for the devil neither give the devil any chance or opportunity [to work]."
- Ephesians 4:27

Him even saying, yes, isnt a correct answer, but saying possibly, demonic spirit can have an effect on someone just by reading what they write, is better and more accurate.
Ask him if there's not so much sex, violence, demonism, potrayed in the Bible, hmm?
If there are so much sex, violence, demonism, potrayed in the Bible, then why doesnt what you read or watch or listen, open up your life to demonic manipulation or demonic influence and from manipulation you get to oppression and from oppression to possession which is the highest hmm?

There is nothing like "odiegwu" jaare, in the whole matter, the truth, really, is some works have different agenda, have secret aims or reasons for their production, which is why Ephesians 4:27 above is an informative and useful verse. Some things, some places, some works, some films, some conversations, some books etcetera are better kept at a safe distance arms length, so as not to be taken advantage of by Satan. For as a child of God, you ought to be not ignorant of satan's plans and/or schemes.

"Everything is lawful," but not everything is beneficial.
Everything is lawful," but not everything builds others up."
- 1 Corinthians 10:23

"All things are lawful to me, but all things do not profit; all things are lawful to me,
but I will not be brought under the power of any."
- 1 Corinthians 6:12

No matter what, you'll always be my sister because what bides us together, is more stronger than whatever we might disagree on, so yes, you have no cause to be scared, I actually know you to have no fear in you, aside that, God hasnt given you a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind anyway. It's not a case of you running the risk of being influenced, but its just that watching those movies wouldnt necessarily build you up. Also the flashbacks of remembering or reliving the memory of watching the movie will only be grieving your spirit man/woman and the Holy Spirit and there's nothing profitable in that.

EnthronedbyGod:
Young man, stop wasting your time seeking my attention, cos you won't get any.

Mister Methuselah, not, what's it like writing a comment like this. I guess, it is only a self conceited person, who will think he is that important enough for anyone to be wasting their and be seeking your attention. Smh, you don't know the half of it

EnthronedbyGod:
I just felt I should give you this advice.

Proverbs 1:17- Surely in vain, the net is spread in the sight of any bird.

Here you go again on another self conceited ego trip. You're so puffed up with conceit

For every false doctrine, every wrong step, every wrong word you type, for every piece of evidence of your ignorance etcetera, I'll cause you indigestion, like nothing you've ever felt before. Mark those words.

I suffer ignoranuses gladly, but not ignoranuses, who take pride and delight in their ignoranuses

EnthronedbyGod:
Not enough proof.

Stop the attack please, cos it's derailing the thread.

God bless you as you understand.

CodeTemplar:
so what proof will convince you maybe I could go after it?

EnthronedbyGod:
Let it slide, for the sake of peace.
God bless

You would notice I never bothered to dignify the false accusations with any replies. It is not worth it. The funniest thing of all, is me legitimately laughing out loud reading him, trying to find a black cat in a dark room, especially when there is no cat. Smh.

EnthronedbyGod:
A young man who wasn't born again and ended up getting into yahoo yahoo out of frustration came across this thread and sent me a PM, I can authoritatively tell you, that he's now genuinely born again and has left yahoo yahoo.

This isn't a made up story, cos this guy had already made money previously from his yahoo business.

I know God will finish what He started in this young man's life.


I must state before I continue that it's God that does the miracles, and not me, so all glory should be given to God.

I only decided to share some of this testimonies to shame the devil.

CodeTemplar:
Since discussions had changed, i though the thread was coming to an end.
If I may digress a little, what would you advise a born again ex-yahoo boy with lots of fraudulent cash.
To give them to the poor or try to do restitution by contacting victims and returning the fraudulent cash?

EnthronedbyGod:
Prayerfully contact the victims and restitute the money once he has it.

it's cursed money and can't be given to the poor.

If he doesn't have it and believes he won't be able to get it, he should still prayerfully contact the victims and ask for forgiveness.

"♪♫♬ See me see trouble. Am I a yahoo boy? Ẹ ra mi, ẹgba mi o. Shey mo jọ ọmọ yahoo? Emi o mọ Sars. Sars t’emi mọ is Sarz on the beat. Ọlọpa kole mu wa. Tani sars fẹ mulọ ni bi?. Ẹyin blogger blogger. Shey mo jọ ọmọ yahoo? Shey wọn kọ yahoo si mi lori ni? Am I a yahoo boy? Emi hotmail, mo fine gan. I am not a yahoo boy♩♪ ♫ ♬"

You this man, again, have turned up on this thread with another of your lopsided and off-balance questionings.

If only, you're going to be truthful and honest, let's face it, no one is capable of fully doing restitution, and this is why the ultimate or final restitution has been made on our behalf by Jesus Christ on the cross of Calvary. Now before you start to hop off and going to try be quoting Zacchaeus for me, just remember that Zacchaeus promised and did restitution because Jesus hadnt yet died for us and the laws of restitution hadnt then yet been nailed to the cross

Now, watch this CodeTemplar, a man, as a muslim, was married to four wives before converting to a believer/chtistian, what restitution about his four wives are you expecting this ex-muslim man now to do, hmm? Some former killer armed robbers that are now turned pastors, what restitution pato, are you expecting from them, hmm? What restitution are you expecting from a woman that aborted a three month old pregnancy, hmm? Or someone that "killed" an only child of a widow, hmmm?

"I don't reject God's kindness. If we receive God's approval by obeying laws, then Christ's death was pointless
(i.e. for if keeping the law could make us right with God, then there was no need for Christ to die)"
- Galatians 2:21

"But now we have been released from the law, for we died to it and are no longer captive to its power. Now we can serve God, not in the old way of obeying the letter of the law, but in the new way of living in the Spirit."
- Romans 7:6

Listen CodeTemplar, just as Zacchaeus, who instead of the restitution law (i.e. Leviticus 6:4-5 or Numbers 5:6-7) that demanded one must make full restitution for a particular sin and add a fifth of the sin's value to it, but was lead by the Spirit to give half of his property to the poor and pay four times as much as he owed, to those he had defrauded and/or cheated on, in any way, so anyone is expected to do. Restituition has been done by Jesus Christ for us, as I've earlier said, however, only do what you have to do, as you're being persuaded and/or led by the Holy Spirit to do.

The real restitution, I maintain, has been done on our behalf by Jesus Christ, who has puchased back to us all that the devil has stolen from us, now if possible, and so far as it depends on you, you may want to make restitution, but sometimes, it's best to not go wake a sleeping dog but to just let sleeping dogs lie. 1 John 2:2, says about Jesus and what He has done on our behalf, that: "He is the payment for our sins, and not only for our sins, but also for the sins of the whole world."

What if he isnt able to contact the victims to ask for forgiveness?. What then happens, hmm? Are you guys sure there actually is a spelled out biblical basis for restitution sha, hmm? Does after the finished work on the cross of Calvary, Jesus command restititution, erhn?

CodeTemplar:
Just as I was thinking. A lot of souls are still taking their chances to profitably trade with sin and make money for themselves before "repenting".

"But God said to him, ‘You fool! This very night your life will be required of you. Then who will own what you have accumulated?’"
- Luke 12:20

"Make no mistake about this: You can never make a fool out of God. Whatever you plant is what you'll harvest."
- Galatians 6:7

CodeTemplar:
You are now getting bolder by switching to this account to engage me on mammon related debate. .I am not obsessive about wealth in any way by seeking for clarification of what that poster I quoted meant.

If you want to talk wealth by force go open a thread Instead of giving false interpretation of my words then replying to it.

By the way I can see you are having it very hot on the other account have decided to change identity.
Lol....seeing i have thoroughly caged your evil doctrines on another account, You went through my posts and extracted key scriptures I used in handling you, changed account and started attacking me with it. It explained s why you were able to read such wide meaning into a simple question about the position of maximus69 on wealth. Ride on . . . I will handle you again.

[quote author=budâatum post=80807068]I am not coming at you! The two you think are one person are two separate people.[/quote]

EmperorHarry:
Thumbs up to the artist but I still don't get the hype about this awful song.

Same thumbs up to the artists here too, its not an awful song, its just unsurprisingly mediocre and which is why I marked it 4.95 out of 10

Supanovarr:
Hello, good evening. Greetings in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.

I realize that as Christians, the desire to "know" can be very powerful.

It is a blessing that God our Father put into us and it is good.

But, if not curtailed with self control and spiritual sensitivity, it can lead to destruction.

Having said that, let me bring that to bear in light of your post here. "The sixth and seventh books of moses" should NOT be read by ANY born again child of God. Not even to satisfy curiosity or "educate" one self.

It is a book not written by human mind. The words of that book are straight from Hell! Please stay away from it.

It is a manual for the occult, new age doctrines, and dark spiritual encounters.

Please I beg you in God's name, do not trifle with that book. Please! You will open up your life to demonic infestation and torment.

I speak this to you from my heart. The Bible may not contain all we need to know about God and heaven but it is ALL we need on this earth. The words of the Bible are "spirit and life". The ONLY one you need.

May The Spirit of God breathe upon you.

Peace.

He who wants to dine with the devil, must do so from a safe long distance and holding a very long spoon

CodeTemplar:
Are you implying wealth is not of God or cannot be of God?

You this man again, you have popped up on this thread with your unhealthy obsession with wealth, erhn?.

Your obsessive interest in wealth and your feeling about wealth stems from a shallow and inadequate knowledge of the subject. Everyone worth their salt, would know, from Deuteronomy 8:18, that, it is God who gives one the power to produce and create wealth. It is the same God, who makes some poor and others rich, He humbles some, by bringing some down and lifts others up by making others great.

Wealth is of God, but whether you have wealth or not, finding contentment in what you have is the key, as a self contented person is one who is happy with what he/she has, whether wealthy or not. Being wealthy afterall, is an opportunity to use it as a vehicle for service, not for just exclusive self-gratification, not for living showy or ostentatious lifestyles

Do you at all know that, wealth can be treachrous?. Look at how in Luke 16:25, wealth betrayed a rich man, hmm? There is something called the deceitfulness of wealth, unless one is well grounded and firmly standing on the word, wealth can be more of a danger than blessing. The rich man with his wealth, apparently was not rich in good works, was not generous with his wealth and was not ready to share his wealth, at least not with Lazarus, for example, and so we get to learn that, the rich man with his wealth, actually was not storing up treasure for himself as a good foundation for the future, for him to lay hold of the Life which is life indeed

The Sixth And Seventh Book of Moses is an educative and good read bar any desire to be reciting the citations, in the book, which actually are glorified incantations (i.e. "ògèdè" and/or ''ọfọ̀'') It really, is not a book for baby believers/christians though.

EnthronedbyGod:
How are you?
Please don't check that blog, many have open themselves up to seducing spirits by reading such blogs.

Anas09:
I'm good sir. Thanks for caring.
Is it that bad? And, can demonic spirit have any effect on someone, just by reading what they write?

It depends on who is the person reading.

Let me give you an example, back in the day, before I started curtailing my circle, I had this very close friend of mine, whom, whenever we went on the social scene, just a quarter glass of Heineken lager beer, and the guy is already intoxicated and under the influence of the drink, but as for me, I would then have already downed 4 cans or more and be like as if nothing's happened.

Another thing, I used to, back in the day, enjoy watching horrorful movies, my consolation then was that the scenes arent at all real, they are just movie set props and make-believes, and so nothing to be frightened of, but then, suddenly one day, I decided to not, deliberately any more, watch horror films. The reason being that I didnt want to grieve my spirit and the Holy Spirit. I can handle watching horror films and/or grotesque things without it affecting me, but I just from that day, made a conscientious decision to monitor and control whatever wants to access my gateways and/or whatever comes in to contact with my them. I stopped because, I've learned from experiences, that flashbacks of watching particular scenes in the past, might want to unexpectedly enter the fray of awareness and without any conscious attempt make me relive and/or recall the memory of scenes just to cause distress to my spirit and/or Holy Spirit

The thing is, each person, should know what their limits are, everyone should know what for them, is off limit and/or no go areas. I usually say, if you pry and stare into darkness, be mindful that the darkness too, might just, turn round and stare back at you. God help the one, who hasnt a light to stand up to and defy the darkness with, or if there's no one around to hand over a torchlight or candle, to help with and pronto get out of the frigging black abyss.

EnthronedbyGod:
I can't stop laughing,someone said I'm watching too many American movies�. I don't lie and won't lie.
Not everyone you see on the road is human, strange things are happening daily. The spiritual controls the physical.
I was not just an ordinary axeman. I did unspeakable things which I might likely not talk about here, cos I'm not here to glorify Satan.
I must state categorically that there is nothing like atheism. It's either you're in God's camp or in the devil's camp. You can't be in the middle so stop allowing the devil deceive you. Most of the things you see in American movies are gotten from the church of Satan .

You couldnt be that as badass as Apostle Paul, the worst of them all. Who in his own words, styled himself, the Chief of sinners. Yet Apostle Paul, nowhere in all of his epistles or letters, did he serialise the shady part and past of his life with blow by blow regular instalments narratives giving details of his escapades or unspeakable things he went up to.

EnthronedbyGod:
I'll give you my honest opinion about the catholic church and I pray it doesn't stir up any strife.

I have a lot of reservations concerning the catholic church cos of their misleading doctrines, that's why i've never stepped my foot there since I became born again.

1- There is nothing like purgatory. It's a lie
2- The veneration of the pope and the claim that he's infallible and the successor of Peter is a lie and idolatry.
3- The prayer made through saints and the false claim of Mary being a means to get to God is idolatry.
4- The use of the rosary and the physical cross is idolatry.
5- The believe that the bread and wine taken during communion is the actual body and blood of Jesus is false doctrine and idolatry.
6- The celibacy of reverend father and nuns is a doctrine of seducing spirits( it should be of freewill and not compulsory)
7- Confession made to priests is idolatry.
8- The refusal to eat meats on certain days is a doctrine of seducing spirits.
9- Their belief in relics is idolatry.
10- The use of incense and candles is witchcraft and satanic.
11- The claim of the appearance of Mary in certain places is a lie, for that is the queen of heaven and not Mary.

Many other satanic teachings which I can't list here.

Have you wondered why Muslims use and have something similar to the rosary? It is thesame fallen angel bro, don't be deceived.

How many times have you seen reverend fathers make altar calls?

Make sure you don't partake in any of the above mentioned.

For very good and valid reasons, Jorge Mario Bergoglio and others you've wondered about why they do certain things, will probably get a leg in before you and thats on top, if you'll ever get a sniff of the pearly gates at all.

Most of what you condemn as idolatry, witchcraft and satanic are innocently done, just out of sheer ignorance, indoctrination, poor Bible literacy, truth decay etcetera. My people perish because of lack of knowledge. Education is the key, it is the opposite of indoctrination

Anas09:
Sis. Who is Micah?

A psychic medium

Anas09:
Who is Micah

"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine;
but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables."
- 2 Timothy 4:3

EmperorHarry:
Lol..It seems we could keep going round in circles Muttley...I rest my case

We aren't going in circles EmperorHarry. Let me explain what seems to be the problem with your hang up. It is that you dont want to appreciate that the scripture were never in the first place divided and so chopped up into chapters and verses. The top level view was given from Genesis 1:1 up until Genesis 2:3, then a low level overview began to start from Genesis 2:4, where description of more specific and individual components of creation, attention shifted from the macro to micro, with concern and focus on the garden is presented.

EmperorHarry:
I agree with you here and Genesis 1 also agrees with you.

Has the EmperorHarry moniker ID account being temporarily hacked to make this comment

EmperorHarry:
I disagree with you here Muttley.

"You dont know these guys like I do. I know everything about each and everyone of them. I know how they think, know how and what they breathe, know when and how they sleep, know what they eat, know when and how they like eating, know when they fart and shiit, know the color of their shiits sef

I kept telling and reminding them that, I not only, mounted this dragon beast, rode and tamed it, but I also, slayed it too, then after killing it, I dissected it, to find out what the dragon beast's been feeding on, and that this is how I got to know, with the help of the Holy Spirit, so much about this subject matter and them too. I was waiting for each of them round the corner. You see, in situations like this, you bide your time, smoke people out, draw them into the open, then either get hold of them with the belt of their trousers or get a wrist hold of them and/or pin them down so they dont have any easy chance to escape or try to evade capture. Going for the jugular, would be a last resort."
- Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 7:24pm On Jun 09

As I have said, I've had loads of experiences with all manner of those guys and you dont know what my strategies and/or tactics were for the thread, but never mind that, so what exactly do you disagree with me on.

EmperorHarry:
I understood the purpose of that thread and I don't see why you think otherwise.

If you really think you understood the purpose of that thread, then why dont you put your money where your mouth is and tell what you understood the purpose of that thread was

TruthinAction:
The best way to answer your question is to ask you which part of man will do the weeping and gnashing of teeth? First, the lost souls have a dead spirit. Now their body is also destroyed. So if the soul goes into none existence, which part of man does the weeping and gnashing of teeth.

If the soul goes into none existence, why was the beast and the false prophet thrown into the Lake of fire were still acknowledged to be there after 1,000 years they were thrown in. And the verse even says they will be tormented night and day forever and ever.

The English used in the Scripture is not ambiguous. Or interpret what for ever and ever means. And tell me why the souls of the false prophet and the beast survived over 1,000 years. I will quote the Scriptures again for benefit of doubt.

Matthew 8:12 But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be WEEPING and GNASHING of TEETH.

How can a soul that goes into none existence weep and gnash his teeth?

Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

The everlasting fire here refers to the Lake of fire. And the verse says its everlasting. Do you need an everlasting fire to torment a soul that doesn't exist? Please be honest with your answer.

Matthew 13:49-50.
49 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,

50 And shall cast them into the FURNACE OF FIRE: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Another synonyms for Lake of fire furnace of fire. And Jesus repeated here that the wicked cast in will weep and gnash their teeth. How will they do that if they go into none existence?

Revelation 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

After this incident Satan was bound for 1,000 years and Jesus ruled for that same number of years.. After the 1,000 years expired, he was loosed for a season and gathered great multitude to fight against God's people. Fire came down from God and destroyed all the armies and Satan was cast into the same Lake of fire. And the Scripture acknowledged that the beast and the false prophet are still there.

Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, WHERE THE BEAST AND THE FALSE PROPHET ARE, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

The Scripture affirms the beast and the false prophet were still there when Satan was cast in.

I hope I have answered your question unless you want to deliberately deny the multiple evidences of the scriptures.

Chief, whoa, whoa, whoa, let's slow down a bit please and get things in there proper perspective. I don't mind if you don't want to directly answer my very simple easy direct and straightforward questions. That is fine, but let me find out this way, if you dont want to tell why Jesus used Gehena together, with the word soul, when describing the soul has capable of being utterly destroyed, hmm?
1/ What to your understanding is Gehena?
2/ What always was the state of Gehena?

Here is another set of questions
1/ Do you physically smile or cry in dreams, like in nightmares or sweet dreams, hmm?
2/ Why are you "pre-lake of fire" talking of a soul that goes into none existence, hmm?
3/ What happens to the existence of death after it gets cast into the lake of fire please?
4/ What is your understanding of the phrase "tormented day and night for ever and ever"?
5/ Who and what at the moment is in the lake of fire?

EmperorHarry:
The 1st chapter of genesis didn't restrict God's creation to a garden. Let's not kid ourselves here

You're correct it didnt. It gave a top level view narration, only to go into granular details in the subsequent chapter(s)

EmperorHarry:
All I'll say here is that Genesis 2 can be interpreted subjectively. While you see Eve as the "pièce de résistance", some other folks see Eve as the leftover. This wouldn't be so if Genesis 1 account was the only source.

Whether you like to accept and agree or not, Eve is the symmetrical side of Adam. She gives the creation, man, balance, dimension and a comparative relationship of parts, she adds a sense of harmony and beauty to the whole creation. It is an insult to say or see Eve as the leftover

EmperorHarry:
I'll check it out during my leisure time.

At least you'll find out classification has there from the beginning and so return back to thank me later

EmperorHarry:
There are very literal meanings to biblical chapters and this my friend is the more accepted perspective by the majority. If it wasn't so,you wouldn't have had to drag out a 25 pages+ thread with Shepherd and co.

"This thread was opened to first and initially respond to the questions TV0I & Shèpherd00 put to me, after which it becomes a vehicle, with which to gradually deconstruct the perpetrated lies, deliberately misinterpreted bible texts, and expose the myth that adult homosexuality/same sex union is evil and/or threatening

Lies run sprints, but the truth runs marathons. The time is now, if ever there is a time to rightly divided the Word of truth. It's just that the light of the truth, can be harsh to those that have been far too long in the dark."
- Page 01, Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 1:02pm On Jun 02

You're ignorant of why that thread was opened, you're ignorant of the strategies and/or tactics I used on the thread. There are quite more you're ignorant about of that thread but I wont bother go in to them.

EmperorHarry:
No to me tho..If every human endeavored to keep an open mind, the world will be a better place. Don't you think Muttley?

My sentiment, my exact sentiment too, that it's in our interest to keep an open mind because, as you would agree and accept EmperorHarry, we all have not just only inherited or learned lies, but also have spread and promoted lies, perhaps innocently helped in those regards, still they are lies nonetheless. The 25 pages+ thread with the guilty and co of not keeping an open mind is evidence of how the world is not yet a better place because of bigotry, hatred, hostility, prejudices, oppression of minorities, ignorances etcetera.

EmperorHarry:
The entirety of our ignorance of the universe (living, nonliving, phenomena, dark matter, past, present, future etc) is the path to understanding God. You can't say you know me just because you know my name. That's just foolishness and as such possiblianism is for those humble enough to acknowledge the vanity in what we call knowledge about God or this thing called life.

If I am able to tell who you are and even know your name, then I do to some degree know you. There is nothing unwise in that, it would seem to me Emperor.

TruthinAction:
The soul being destroyed in hell is the torment it will go through for life in hell fire. It does not mean it go into none existence. Otherwise what part of man will be crying day and night if they all go into none existence.

Even the Bible said that the soul of Jesus was not left in hell. His soul did not go into none existence.

Lets cut to to the chase, shall we?

1/ So you personally believe the soul can never be destroyed hmm?
2/ So according to your understanding, you equate destruction of the soul to mean the torment it'll go through in Gehenna's fire, hmm?
3/ To your understanding, you place the soul having some semblance of existence, even after the soul, death and Gehena (i.e hell) are cast into the lake of fire, huh?
4/ Are you able to explain why Jesus used Gehena together, with the word soul, when describing the soul has capable of being utterly destroyed, hmm?
5/ The soul, though is imperceptible to the touch, it doesnt mean it cant cry day and night, the soul will, just as you're able to cry day and night in your dreams, whether a nightmare or sweet dream. Dont you accept or agree to this, huh?

TruthinAction:
Even the Bible said that the soul of Jesus was not left in hell. His soul did not go into none existence.

"For You will not abandon my soul to Sheol; Nor will You allow Your Holy One to undergo decay."
- Psalm 16:10

The soul of Jesus, not left in hell is king David's Psalm 16:10 prophecy being fulfilled. Everything written about Jesus, in the Law of Moses, the Prophets, and the Psalms were each and everyone fulfilled, and this one who raised, is one of them.

TruthinAction:
Man is made in the image of God. And God does not die so the spirit of man also does not die. Only the physical body dies. The spirit and the soul of man is immortal.

"And you should not be afraid of those killing the body but not being able to kill the soul. Indeed rather you should fear the One being able to destroy both soul and body in Gehenna."
- Matthew 10:28

Except for the soul part being immortal, every other thing you wrote is right.

MuttleyLaff:
Asides, the paragraph with the Ashkenazi Jews content, everything else is, you wetting your finger and holding it up in the air

providence338:
Nah, I just let the Word speak for me lol.
I'm curious. If you know the Ashkenazi jews are not the descendants of the Israelites in scripture, who do you think today's Israelites are?

"Netanyahu, Simon Peres and others are not real Israelites
but are either actually Ashkenazi Jews or of Polish origin"
- Re: Ducking Out Of Church by MuttleyLaff: 5:30pm On Dec 28, 2017

There are unbelievable more holes than in a Swiss cheese in your two last combo reply, that I'll just start from the very last bottom with this short and succint reply and then later work my way back to the top of replying the rest of your two last posts.

Smh, there's too much proof texting in your replies, too much eisegesis going on and so introducing your preconceptions, biases and learned bad indoctrinations. Please watch this space, as I'll asap revisit this thread, to address your reckless and careless opinions put forward in your last two posts. Also to patch up and/or plug in the holes in that your same two post's arguments too