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Christianity Etc › Re: Christians And Curses/threats by MuttleyLaff:
budaatum:
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yadayada medicine!
budaatum:
I'm hearing you, and I agree with you sef. It is true that I am "quoting verses out of context". Thankfully, its not sin.
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Whoever you called a fool, I really dont give a hoot care. I live in a confident world of my own, away from your consumed with jealousy, bitterness, hatred and loathing Pharisaic "Original Jefa-Head O" self.
Christianity Etc › Re: Christians And Curses/threats by MuttleyLaff: 8:07pm On Jul 31, 2019
Michellekabod2:
I didn't lie against him o....@the bolded
I never said anywhere you lied against him or anyone. All I did was to emboldened the jesusjnr comment and respond to it.

He habitually lies against other people, so it is good he experiences the pain he inflicted on others when he did the lying against them.
Christianity Etc › Re: Christians And Curses/threats by MuttleyLaff: 8:03pm On Jul 31, 2019
budaatum:
You will learn until your last breath muttley, count on that.
I am, afterall, a philomathea. Learning is what we do, I dont have to count on anything

budaatum:
I'm sure it does. But it was less yada than your usual yada, or were you reading the responses and not your's quoted? It would be typical of you.
""Paul writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction."
- 2 Peter 3:16

Paul, apparently writes the same way or similar way I do. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand by ignorant and unstable people, who distort what they dont understand to be "usual yada"

By all means, continue with your sardonic and noxious comments, but please get off your high horse and learn to ride a horse first hmm?
Christianity Etc › Re: Christians And Curses/threats by MuttleyLaff: 7:35pm On Jul 31, 2019
budaatum:
Muttley, you must be thinking your learning or not is up to you. Or maybe you think this is some game
I dont ever stop learning, I'll learn until my last breath, only not bullying ogres. What a hilarious kick arse meme pic

budaatum:
Read again how ma taught buda to read and learn that buda is not your nicely!
I've just read it all. Comes across as yada yada, blah de blah de blah and other words that mean very little.
Christianity Etc › Re: God Really Loves Africa. See Why. by MuttleyLaff: 7:30pm On Jul 31, 2019
francis247:
For God so loved Africa that he sent European and Arab slave traders and colonizers to come and force two conflicting and opposing stories about him on us. . .

Bala Dihis
Bala Dihis, should have considered the thought that had not Sarah gave her handmaiden to Abraham, it would have being just a solitary and unopposing story
Christianity Etc › Re: Christians And Curses/threats by MuttleyLaff: 7:06pm On Jul 31, 2019
budaatum:
Short, to the point. No yadayada whatsoever.
I am a very quick learner, so be careful whatever you "nicely" ask me to learn
Christianity Etc › Re: Christians And Curses/threats by MuttleyLaff: 6:45pm On Jul 31, 2019
jesusjnr:
Michelle why do you have to resort to lies to shame me?
Even if you now hate me so much that you want to pull me down, why not stick to the truth, instead having to falsely accuse me?

Or prove where I threatened Buda with grave and hell if not that you must include my name by all means in your desperation to nail me by all cost?

Michelle, I know you more than anyone here and you are better than this, so please no more for you can see how I have tried to hold back not revealing what is actually going on despite your sustained efforts?

I know you trusted me with such information that's why it's been so hard for me, but I don't know how much longer I can keep mute while you keep up with your onslaughts.

Please I don't want you to use me as an excuse to deactivate this your moniker.

I hope you don't ignore this message, for this seems like the last straw.

Thanks and God bless.
"... you have sinned against the LORD, and be sure your sin will find you out."
- Numbers 32:23b

Men are not punished for their sins, but by their sins, when the sins catch up with them, like now when the chickens have come home to roost.

I've always known that what goes around, comes back around, and if you had given out venom, like you've generously been doing, sooner or later, it'll return back to poison you
Christianity Etc › Re: How T.B. Joshua Initiated Chris Oyakhilome & Ugandan Pastor Kakande by MuttleyLaff: 6:27pm On Jul 31, 2019
petra1:
Ok let's discuss the facts . You may raise the topics . I watched almost all his videos since 2017-2019 . What is new to you is not new to me . It's just . A shame someone could make it a job to rubbish Christ body for cheap popularity.
OLAADEGBU:
How about talking on the topic such as Abdulfatai (a.k.a. Tb Joshua) and Chris Oyakhilome bringing witchcraft into Christendom? undecided
petra1:
Well he said tb Joshua stretched hands and pastor chris stretched hands . So its witcraft . There is no law limiting how People should minister. Peter used his shadow , Paul used apron .jesus used saliva and sand Every one does as he is led. Or the technique that works for him . She issue for me is not what technique (pardon my used if the word) but rather by what power . There may be no clear line between the technique use either by darkness or light but what counts is the power.

If Tb joshua had been the first man to use his shadow to heal like Peter did It would have been called a name

The principles may look similar. If laying of hands is what works for you that's fine . But dark kingdom do lay hands too. I can criticize any good thing and it will sound logical. I can call speaking in tongues incarnation sic. And post evidence where false religion speak in tongues. I have cast out devils out and in the process the demon spoke in what sounded like tongues . Everything has duplicate. And we cant say because darkness does what we do then condemn the good .
"... because of your reliance on a crutch. You are dependent on the crutch, you need this stick fit under the arm, and to lean on for support because you have difficulty in the praying department, so you have to invent this fake gift of speaking in tongues, a reminiscence and variant of "Ọfọ̀ Asẹ" and/or "Ògèdè".

This gift of speaking in tongues, is so cool, simple and straightforward but you guys have just to turn it on its head and into something else, and like I've earlier numerously said, turn it into glorified "ògèdè" and/or "ọfọ̀" and/or incantation recitations
"
- Re: Praying In Tongues : The Weapon That Builds You Up - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by MuttleyLaff: 12:35am On Mar 12
Christianity Etc › Re: No Man Can Serve Two Masters: Jesus And "Holy Mary" by MuttleyLaff: 5:46pm On Jul 31, 2019
jesusjnr:
Not surprised about Jezebels with their threatenings against the Lord's annointed, but you know what always happens to them at the end if they don't repent from their wickedness.

You wish, for If it were up to me alone I wouldn't have anything to do with you, needless say waste a thread on you, for you are just like a dreaded contagious disease in my sight.

I have responded to your attacks so stop deceiving yourself that it's me you're waiting for, I am ready for you as you can now see for my ignoring you was not a sign of cowardice, but to show that I was also capable of that, but of course I forgot that you had no atom of reason in you.

If i had any single respect for you beforehand, you've lost it by your resorting to false accusations against me, so you can go and meet your fellow liars and those who were foolish enough to fall for it.
So you now know how it feels like been slandered against, hmm? You are having a taste of the medicine you give out to many others. Please relax, sit back as you slurp up your own medicine fed back to you
Christianity Etc › Re: Possibilianism by MuttleyLaff: 5:39pm On Jul 31, 2019
budaatum:
Your yadayada deserves way more than "sardonic and noxious". You are not understandable. Too much yadayada distorts what might be a valid informative point so I on the whole ignore it.

Go and read where Paul advised against yadayada if you would not listen to me!
"All day long they twist my words; all their schemes are for my ruin."
- Psalm 56:5

"Paul writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction."
- 2 Peter 3:16

"We have much to say about this, but it is hard to make it clear to you because you no longer try to understand."
- Hebrews 5:11
Christianity Etc › Re: Possibilianism by MuttleyLaff: 5:17pm On Jul 31, 2019
budaatum:
No. Don't learn, please!
Smh, most people never read with any intent to understand, they mostly read, only with the intent to reply with sardonic and noxious remarks
Christianity Etc › Re: Possibilianism by MuttleyLaff: 3:12pm On Jul 31, 2019
budaatum:
While I educate you.
Get yourself decorum educated first, then I'll be happy you educate me.
Christianity Etc › Re: Possibilianism by MuttleyLaff: 2:52pm On Jul 31, 2019
budaatum:
Yada yada
Yada yada back to you too. Mtcheeew. I spit on you.
Christianity Etc › Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 1:25pm On Jul 31, 2019
EnthronedbyGod:
I don't think all Catholic members will go to hell, cos if you go back to my post from the beginning, you'll see where I spoke about 2 Catholic ladies. You can go and check up.

In every Church there are people who will go to hell and some to heaven, being born again is the first step to heaven

There is no salvation in any Church, salvation is only in Jesus, the only thing is that some Churches will guide you to the right part better than others.
I am almost certain that except you repent, you possibly might find yourself end up with hell and death in the lake of fire. How do I know? By your antecedents, fruits, your behavioural etcetera. Nothing personal, but saying out of love, what I've observed.
Christianity Etc › Re: No Man Can Serve Two Masters: Jesus And "Holy Mary" by MuttleyLaff: 1:19pm On Jul 31, 2019
CodeTemplar:
Trash again.
One man's trash is another man's potpourri
Christianity Etc › Re: No Man Can Serve Two Masters: Jesus And "Holy Mary" by MuttleyLaff:
CodeTemplar:
Trash. Still old tactics.
Ones trash, is another's gems. You know when you're beat and have had enough. Go to a corner to lick your wounds with tail behind the legs. You couldn't keep your balloon inflated since I kept exposing the rubbish you're spewing out.
Christianity Etc › Re: No Man Can Serve Two Masters: Jesus And "Holy Mary" by MuttleyLaff: 10:23am On Jul 31, 2019
CodeTemplar:
So many errors and dodging of questions again.
Why did Jesus have a treasurer for himself then? A treasure who stole as he wished
Stop clutching at straws. Did the IT guy not steal from Covenant Uni? Having treasurers is not exclusive to only the rich or wealthy. C'mon get real.

CodeTemplar:
Avoiding direct questions and sampling irrelevant facts or even wrong and shameful interpretation of scripture won't sway me
How do you expect to be swayed, when you don't even know your left from your right, hmm?

CodeTemplar:
You have still not answered basic questions I asked about defining the line between covetousness and contentment or the service of mammon and the service to God.
I am quite sure you deliberately chose to ignore where and whem I typed that, there is no doubt that, if one has no scruples, have no twinge of conscience, have no sense of uneasiness or feelings of discomfort etcetera, one will serve God and mammon

CodeTemplar:
Mind you, your equally shameful answer of wisdom as the way to get wealth without serving mammon, still desires a lot of clarifications. How did Solomon get wealthy with wisdom? By magical money or what because you seem skillfully at attacking every resourceful man of God out there?
There is no doubt that you are suffering from selective reading among a bunch of other problems.

I previously shared 1 Kings 3:10-13 and Deuteronomy 8:18 with their useful and informative verses. In addition, I said, moreover when one thing is said, the clever person understands three and sees the picture from joining the dots. I then further said, of course King Solomon wasnt sitting on his hands, doing nothing, but he had to be doing something with his hands before God can or could have blessed the work of his hands and making him rich and wealthy. I didn't even bother, spelling out how kings get rich in the Bible, according to how Samuel warned the Israelites about the prize to pay asking for a human king.

I remember categorically mentioning, that riches dont appear mysteriously, but it only does, in Nollywood films, eith scamming juju babalawos and fetish myths about women pants and benz

CodeTemplar:
And it is interesting how you switch accounts to avoid questions as relate to the topic but you are quick to log into JesusJnr account to reply to less important issues that are offshoot of the main questions.
Your delusion is increasingly becoming legendary, even after pasting the red inverted commas up there for you to read, you still are dead set in believing that the MuttleyLaff moniker ID is OP. Smh.

Mammon worshippers are ones who have no scruples, have no twinge of conscience, have no sense of uneasiness or feelings of discomfort etcetera, to the extent of serving God and mammon by unashamedly coveting the widows' mites
Christianity Etc › Re: Possibilianism by MuttleyLaff: 8:38am On Jul 31, 2019
LoJ:
Hello, I see no relevance in discussing this with you.
Have a great day.
The feeling is mutual, besides I've already made my point, so have a God and blessed day my dear friend
Christianity Etc › Re: No Man Can Serve Two Masters: Jesus And "Holy Mary" by MuttleyLaff:
CodeTemplar:
Can you do same for bible character like Apostle Paul also?
I ask because from the scriptures, Gal 6:6 admonishes us to communicate all good things to he that teacheth us.
Also in Philippians 4:15-17 Paul clearly confirm the above in Gal 6:6.
Nwanne, do you have to drag Apostle Paul into this claptrap, hmm? Why? Bible characters like Paul and others are not cut from the same cloth as the subject characters in OP

CodeTemplar:
So please can you also list the NSE or FTSE equivalent company Paul ran in his own time?
"1Then Paul left Athens and went to Corinth.
2There he became acquainted with a Jew named Aquila, born in Pontus, who had recently arrived from Italy with his wife, Priscilla. They had left Italy when Claudius Caesar deported all Jews from Rome.
3Paul lived and worked with them, for they were tentmakers just as he was.
"
- Acts 18:3

Nwanne, Paul was a tentmaker. Tent making was the business he ran in his own time but I doubt the business made it into the Tel Aviv Stock Exchange (TASE)

CodeTemplar:
BTW, I know you are OP. And mind you, the bold is a deviation from the OP content.
Even legitimate earners by the constitution/law standard can and actually do serve mammon. Your errors and self contradictions along with you explaining what OP meant beyond what he said has proven you are OP.
There is no doubt that, if one has no scruples, have no twinge of conscience, have no sense of uneasiness or feelings of discomfort etcetera, one will serve God and mammon

CodeTemplar:
From the bold here I want to believe you are asking to know the legitimate business registered under NSE FTSE by Oyedepo that can explain his wealth?
Even though you are not being direct enough (part of your rough tactics) I will still answer you.
I have very good and wise reasons for not being direct enough dear friend but I am pleased you're smart enough to see through

CodeTemplar:
Well, I already gave you some direct scriptures that indicate Apostles/sent prophets/teachers do receive gift and in fact these gifts account unto the givers because they are both physical and spiritual inclined transactions? Go through Philippians 4:15-19 and Galatians 6:6 for those
You havent been fully forthcoming with the whole truth though. Were the donations collected for Paul, for Paul's use or he gave them away to less privileges churches, poor, needy, widow and/or orphans, hmm?

CodeTemplar:
I equally expect you to match the standard you demand of Oyedepo by providing The NSE FTSE equivalent company Apostle Paul ran in his time also.
I already have, look above you

CodeTemplar:
Also Jesus too had abundance and I like to know the companies he ran or the one(s) Judas was treasurer to?
"1Soon afterward Jesus began a tour of the nearby towns and villages, preaching and announcing the Good News about the Kingdom of God. He took his twelve disciples with him,
2along with some women who had been cured of evil spirits and diseases. Among them were Mary Magdalene, from whom he had cast out seven demons;
3Joanna, the wife of Chuza, Herod’s business manager; Susanna; and many others who were contributing from their own resources to support Jesus and his disciples
"
- Luke 8:1-3

Notice there are acknowledged and named financiers of Jesus' ministry. These people provided provided financial support for Jesus and his disciples, they contributed to the support of Jesus and His Apostles but not to make them wealthy nor to live showy or ostentatious lifestyles.

CodeTemplar:
Why not log on with this moniker/user account and go straight to the point MuttlèyLaff?
"luvmijejè and you, jesusjnr, are both cut from the same cloth
but do you know why luvmijejè is confusing, oh really, confusing to you, like you've admitted, as seen reproduced above
It is because she's nothing but a two-faced liar, a lurking green snake in the green grass, and an accuser/fault-finder of Paul
"
- Re: Daddy Freeze: The Second Coming Of John The Baptist by MuttleyLaff: 9:05pm On Dec 25, 2018

"jesusjnr and àlBHAGDADI should go start fertilizer plants.

àlBHAGDADI will distort anything in the bible in order to justify entitlement to tithes and so validate, spread and promote obligatory or imposed ecclesiastical monitised tithing. jesusjnr, on the other hand, in cahoot with luvmijejè, is an easily scared, self styled attacker of Apostle Paul who relishes in laying charges against Paul, by slandering and codemning him
"
- Re: Daddy Freeze Hails Pastor Abel Damina For Saying Women Can Wear Trousers by MuttleyLaff: 6:54pm On Apr 14

"I am lowering my standards, if to wrestle you. Besides I never wrestle a pig. Bad move, poor judgment and taste it'll be, as the pig and I will both get dirty, but unlike me, the pig likes and enjoys the dirt.

Do sycophant, arse-lickers & arse-kissers bullshitters always need to stoop as low as you've written so? Arse-lickers & arse-kissers bullshitters like you, are always the first post false bullshits & start drama. I'll whoop your bumbum, your brain will reset and your false bullshits & drama evaporate. Mtcheew. No wonder you're the arse-licker & arse-kisser, and I am an arse-kicker.

Your insecurities are loud. Your boastings and gloating to luvmijeje confirms you shamelessly need regard & appreciation from her. Stop seeking recognition and validation from people! jesusjnr. All these your, sucking up to luvmijeje, especially, is unflattering
and your all of a sudden, lately attention-seeking, famzing Freeze, all over the forum, haba, is cringeworthy!

Repent brother because the day of reckoning for your slander and impudence, is round the corner, about to happen
."
- Re: Daddy Freeze: The Second Coming Of John The Baptist by MuttleyLaff: 8:44am On Dec 27, 2018

"People like you, and the likes of Agrogbeide, jesusjnr etcetera understand only to the level of your perception(s). Just think for a moment, how much pleasure you are giving Satan with your discrimination, hypocrisy, bigotry and ignorance. How you are not making every effort to present yourself approved to God, not being a workman that has no reason to be ashamed as he accurately handles the word of truth. You arent correctly and rightly dividing the word of the truth, the message of God's truth"
- Re: THE SIN THAT IS SO PREVALENT. by MuttleyLaff: 8:51am On Apr 28

jesusjnr is laughing, right now reading this, but not laughing with you but laughing at you CodeTemplar
Christianity Etc › Re: Possibilianism by MuttleyLaff: 7:16am On Jul 31, 2019
budaatum:
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Correction!
Beware of the Scribes
38And he said unto them in his doctrine,
Beware of the scribes, which love to go in long clothing, and love salutations in the marketplaces,
39And the chief seats in the synagogues, and the uppermost rooms at feasts:
40Which devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayers: these shall receive greater damnation.


The Poor Widow
41And Jesus sat over against the treasury, and beheld how the people cast money into the treasury: and many that were rich cast in much.
42And there came a certain poor widow, and she threw in two mites, which make a farthing.
43And he called unto him his disciples, and saith unto them,
Verily I say unto you, That this poor widow hath cast more in, than all they which have cast into the treasury:
44For all they did cast in of their abundance; but she of her want did cast in all that she had, even all her living

- Mark 12:38-44 KJV

"My friends, not many of you should become teachers.
As you know, we teachers will be judged with greater strictness than others.
"
- James 3:1

"Well you are the self confessed teacher. I however for very good and obvious James 3:1 above reason, dont parade or profess to be a teacher. I do not teach anybody anything, what I do is put the information out there so as to provoke and make others think. Secondly I don't post information here because I want to convince people who know differently but rather I post to show people who know and are woke, like me that they're not alone"
- Re: How Was The Black African Saved Before Christ - Discussion by MuttleyLaff: 6:17pm On Jan 13

"I am not a teacher nor metatron the first, as kkins25 would jokingly call me, but an awakener."
- Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 9:27am On Jun 30

James 3:1, above, is very instructive. You can see from above too, my stance with self confessed teacher(s) and also read from above Mark 12:38-44, how Jesus in that teaching, started with a cautionary advice about teachers:
''Beware of the scribes (i.e. one learned in the Jewish Law, a religious teacher) ....''
Christianity Etc › Re: Possibilianism by MuttleyLaff: 7:16am On Jul 31, 2019
EmperorHarry:
Lol..He knows what you meant
That is why he is firefighting, in quickly putting out flames

EmperorHarry:
Lol..It does support theism only indirectly because it entertains multiple ideas and as such one can be a theist and a possibilian.
That is what straddling means

EmperorHarry:
The only difference is that one is open minded enough to accommodate new ideas regardless of the views one holds. Possibilianism advocates for noncommittal attitude to mainstream philosophies especially God related ones due to the vastness of our ignorance.
There is a lot we all are ignorant about, yet we still are excessively conceited and absorbed in oneself to believe that we are more intelligient, more knowing, more wiser, more better than God

EmperorHarry:
There ya go..This in my opinion is your take on possibilianism.
Not an opinion, but is bare stark nâked fact
Christianity Etc › Re: Possibilianism by MuttleyLaff: 7:16am On Jul 31, 2019
LoJ:
This is never what I said nor implied.
"This is a nice write up. A possibilian as described in this article is also what is called in esoteric circles, a researcher (of Truth)."
- LoJ

Researcher of what type of truth and/or kind of Truth, if I may ask, hmm?

LoJ:
Moreover, it is better to be in darkness and be aware of it...
"9When you come to the land that the LORD your God is giving you, never learn the disgusting practices of those nations.
10You must never sacrifice your sons or daughters by burning them alive, practice black magic, be a fortuneteller, witch, or sorcerer,
11cast spells, ask ghosts or spirits for help, or consult the dead.
12Whoever does these things is disgusting to the LORD. The LORD your God is forcing these nations out of your way because of their disgusting practices.
13You must have integrity [in dealing] with the LORD your God. (i.e. never be guilty of doing any of these disgusting things!)
14These nations you are forcing out listen to fortunetellers and to those who practice black magic. But the LORD your God won't let you do anything like that.
"
- Deuteronomy 18:9-14

"Have nothing to do with the useless works that darkness produces.
Instead, expose them for what they are
"
- Ephesians 5:11

You cannot be doing spiritism and equally be a follower of the true God. What is better, to be in darkness and be aware of it, when without light, you've lost yourself somewhere in the darkness, hmm? No light? So you're groping, and searching blindly in darkness then, erhn?

LoJ:
then search for light than pretending one is in the light to the point of believing it.
"14You are the light of the world—like a city on a hilltop that cannot be hidden.
15No one lights a lamp and then puts it under a basket. Instead, a lamp is placed on a stand, where it gives light to everyone in the house.
16In the same way, let your good deeds shine out for all to see, so that everyone will praise your heavenly Father.
"
- Matthew 5:14-16

A single light can both defy and define darkness. Some dont want to accept that, followers of the true God are light(s) of the world. Jesus actually in John 12:36, said: "As long as you have the light, believe in the light, so that you may become children of light."
Crime › Re: Toddler Falls From 6-storey Building, Gets Caught By Neighbours (video) by MuttleyLaff: 4:46am On Jul 31, 2019
DameB:
Thank God for the neighbors, this poor baby brain for splash full ground....
How can I unread this post and wipe it from my memory or consciousness? Did you have to be this so graphic ni?

DameB:
Meanwhile those people saying spiderman & action movies, do you know that those movies ain't got nothing on cartoons ....
In cartoons characters even walk in the air.... Infact cartoons make your imagination come alive grin grin grin
Something similar to this, but different, happened to me when I was a 4-5 years old, walking with my mum RIP and me holding an opened umbrella. Unbeknownst to my mum and all the bystanders on the street on that day, the incident happened from me watching it on cartoon programmes and trying to test it out
Christianity Etc › Re: A Pastor Of Bestselling Relationship Book Says He Is No Longer Christian by MuttleyLaff: 4:40am On Jul 31, 2019
0temSapien:
This is goodness! I wonder what year 2625 will be like. That year, we have to look into a microscope to see the remnants of Christianity left on earth grin
The Light of God Almighty which created Jehovah has revealed this billions of years ago.
"37No, despite all these things, overwhelming victory is ours through Christ, who loved us.
38And I am convinced that nothing can ever separate us from God’s love. Neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither our fears for today nor our worries about tomorrow—not even the powers of hell can separate us from God’s love.
39No power in the sky above or in the earth below—indeed, nothing in all creation will ever be able to separate us from the love of God that is revealed in Christ Jesus our Lord.
"
- Romans 8:37-39
Christianity Etc › Re: Despite What We've Been Taught.... God's Laws Have Not Been Done Away With.... by MuttleyLaff: 4:17am On Jul 31, 2019
providence338:
You're correct...I don't see where Jesus commanded believers to keep the Sabbath.
That's because the only "believers" at that time, the Israelites, were ALREADY keeping the Sabbath.
So had Adam. Noah. Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, etc. From the days of old.
The 4th commandment begins with the word: "REMEMBER" for a reason.
Keeping the sabbath holy was a commandment observed from the days of Creation.
If you don't want to keep it, that's fine.
But Jesus DID SAY he came NOT to abolish the commandments (Sabbath)....but embody it.
If Yahshua fulfilled the commandments, then being imitators of Christ, we're to fulfill it too.

I long and yearn to do what thus sayeth the LORD.
I believe in the Old Testament and New Testament.
I don't believe the NT nullifies the OT, but is in fact built up from it.
Therefore, I believe what God said in the OT also applied in NT times, and still applies today.

"For I am the LORD, I changeth not" (Mal 3:6)

The scriptures regarding the Law and the Stranger....
Strangers (gentiles) always lived and dwelled amongst the Israelites.
God was saying BOTH GROUPS shall observe THE SAME LAW.

Based on GOD'S OWN WORDS the law is meant for the Israelite and stranger.
God's truth endureth to all generations (Psa 100:5) and reaches to the skies (Psa 108:5)

Your word, O LORD, is everlasting; it is firmly fixed in the heavens" Psalm 119:89

If that were the case, why did Paul instruct the gentiles who heard the gospel to first abstain from idol worship, fornication and unclean food (all in Torah), as they learned the LAW OF MOSES PREACHED IN THE SYNAGOGUES EVERY SABBATHhuh? (Acts 15:20-21)

I was simply remarking how the Sabbath is apparently relevant even during the end-times tribulation.

There is ONE LAW for the Israelite and the stranger.
That same law is the law Jesus said he DID NOT ABOLISH, NOR DO AWAY WITH.
That same law is the law taught by the apostles to the newly converted gentiles
The same Christ who said not one dot or tittle shall pass from the LAW will rule with this same law.

"Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever" (Heb 13:8 )

There's evidence that there are certain "commandments" and "laws" in scripture that were NOT God's holy laws, statutes or commandments.
But in as far as God's laws, there's only ONE.
More on that later.
Would love to see scriptural evidence of this "new law".

Um...negative.
In my post to EMILOSTAY2, I addressed how Paul must be the most MISUNDERSTOOD MAN OF ALL TIME.
The man died defending himself against his own people who FALSELY accused him of preaching "the law is done away with".
I had to repent when I found out that the modern church is doing the same thing....
attributing the LIE that "the law is done away with" to him...
If the Creator of the Law did not do away with His own law...why would Paul?
Maybe because Paul never DID what we've all been brainwashed to believe. (Rom 3:31)

You can show nowhere where I hold a vendetta against any holy man of scripture.
I've in fact shown the opposite.

The transfiguration symbolizes the Law and the Prophets.
God's Law is eternal (Psa 119:160). Israel rose and fell because of the Law.
And every Prophet observed the Law. Including the High Priest himself.

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets." (Matt 5:17)

Hmmm... interesting translation which included Moses' Teachings (CEV). Never heard of it.
Pay careful attention to the word "ordinances".
"Ordinances" could mean any political or religious announcement, judgement or decree.
Whatever this "ordinance" was in this verse, caused hatred and division.
Thus, whatever the "law of commandments contained in ordinances" is clearly NOT talking about God's Law.

Because:

"THERE'S ONE LAW FOR THE ISRAELITES AND THE FOREIGNER"
Num 9:14, 15:16, Exo 12:49, Lev 24:22

God's laws ALWAYS brought people who worshipped Him in spirit and truth TOGETHER.
Since Abraham and Eleazar. Since the mixed multitude in Egypt. Since the mixed multitude at Mt. Sinai.
The legalistic spirit which pervaded the early church by the pharisees is what Paul is referring to here.

The "law of commandments contained in ordinances" was their own doctrine/traditions of men (Matt 15:3,6,9). Not God's law.

Think about it. God's law can't be "holy, good and just" (Rom 7:12) and "hostile" (Eph 2:15) at the same time...

(please give me a min....working on 2nd post.... grin )
Dont worry, I'll give you all the time in the world, you need and/or require before I together respond to this post and the second post you're working on

I can straightaway respond to this post, I am actually itchy to respond to it but I'll wait until you finish with the 2nd post
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Woman The Initial Plan Of God? by MuttleyLaff: 4:00am On Jul 31, 2019
EmperorHarry:
It's all good Muttley. A wise man appreciates correction when he errs.
I knew you'd say this but a comparison between both account would show the irregularities such as in what order creation was intended by God. Was the garden of eden a second creation?
There is no second creation, what you perceive to be a second creation, is the low level view narration, as in, meat to bones, as was earlier said.

EmperorHarry:
What kinda dumbasses would believe something so ludicrous? I get your point here but it doesn't change the sequence in which male and female were created and the part Eve came to play.
I am glad you do, get my point. I know you understand what "pièce de résistance" means. Now if you accept that "pièce de résistance", often means, the last in a series of things
and ending up to be best and most important thing, you wouldnt be trying a tug of war with me over sequence. Nobody is changing the order in which Eve appeared EmperorHarry, but saying that Eve was certain to happen, she had a certain role to play, she was was unavoidable and so was no afterthought. From the word go, she was in the initial plan of God

EmperorHarry:
This is seems a more appealing cover-up story. The literal understanding is what most people are exposed to and it shapes most activities under religion.
What literal understanding are you trying to quibble about now, hmm EmperorHarry? Left to Adam alone, do you think, you'll be here today and typing away, erhn? Even if Adam were to be a hermaphrodite, he has no womb

EmperorHarry:
When the time comes, I'll let you know.
Please do and asap too

EmperorHarry:
There wasn't any classification for animals back then Muttley.
"20And God said, “Let the waters teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth in the open expanse of the sky.”
21So God created the great sea creatures and every living thing that moves, with which the waters teemed according to their kinds, and every bird of flight after its kind. And God saw that it was good
24And God said, “Let the earth bring forth living creatures according to their kinds: livestock, land crawlers, and beasts of the earth according to their kinds.” And it was so.
25God made the beasts of the earth according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and everything that crawls upon the earth according to its kind. And God saw that it was good
"
- Genesis 1:20-21, 24-25

https://i.ebayimg.com/thumbs/images/g/fYwAAOSwtglcaSNN/s-l225.jpg
"I am currently reading this book (i.e. Sapiens - A Brief History of Mankind), it's a book by Yuval Noah Harari
Yuval Noah Harari is that Hebrew professor. Sapiens - A Brief History of Mankind, is a very enthralling book but you might need to spit out bones. I am still in the twenties page of a 400+ page book
.
"
- Re: Do You Realise That We Don't Really Exist? by MuttleyLaff: 9:56am On Jun 04, 2015

Oh no EmperorHarry, no, no, no, no. No. That is classification right before you, in Genesis 1:20-21, 24-25. Classification obviously started from the beginning, while evolution was still tying up its boot laces and yet strapping on its boot. If you dont find Genesis 1:20-21, 24-25 convincing, then I recommend you read that Prof's above mentioned book for a leg-up on "kinds"

EmperorHarry:
Muttley this is the same thing that made me apathetic towards conversations with Christians over contradictions in a supposedly infallible book. I'm in no way disrespecting the literary foundations of Christianity but maybe, just maybe some things need questioning. I also know that the greatest fear of the advocate for scriptural infallibility is that once a scripture is deemed fallible, all it's contents are susceptible to ridicule.
I am an ever advocate of questioning because enquiring minds want to know. No believer worth his/her salt will harbour fear about the scripture not being infallibility. Permit me to let you on to what makes the scripture capable of making mistakes or being wrong. Greed, filthy lucre, political and differing theology, heresies, idolatry, schisms, deliberate theological errors etcetera are catalysts for making Bible translations that have mistakes, that are wrong, that are lies, that have original word contents changed from their real and genuine meanings etcetera.

Bible translations made where cast iron facts, are viewed as irrelevant or less important than indoctrinations, deliberate and calculated lies, personal beliefs and opinions makes people cast aspersions on scripture
Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Was Excommunicated From The Church - Pastor W F Kumuyi by MuttleyLaff: 11:25pm On Jul 30, 2019
Maximus69:
You can argue Sir! But the matter is indisputable and clear!
Please give achorladey the answer to who ORDAINED Late Baba RUSSELL, as pastor nau. Nobi you dey ask who ordained Baba Kumuyi, so likewise, who ordained Baba Russell too. What is good for the goose is equally good for the gander
Christianity Etc › Re: Despite What We've Been Taught.... God's Laws Have Not Been Done Away With.... by MuttleyLaff: 10:57pm On Jul 30, 2019
providence338:
He's our king indeed. Thank you so much.
Will address your posts really soon.
Blessings
I'll prefer you objectively address the posts though.
Shalom.
Christianity Etc › Re: No Man Can Serve Two Masters: Jesus And "Holy Mary" by MuttleyLaff: 10:35pm On Jul 30, 2019
CodeTemplar:
Now don't get me wrong o. Not that I don't know these things you are highlighting but I am going somewhere.

For example OP is always against Oyedepo's idea of wealth. And going by this your alleged standard of wealth acquisition, could you please help ask him(OP) what David Oyedepo is getting wrong?
OP is against whoever it is in this world who are scammers and leeches, that have amassed illegitimate funds from money obtained unlawfully and/or immorally, dirty money made clean, then channelled back into the financial system, made to look legitimate, as if obtained from own's sweat, blood and tears, and now making gloating accounts of the wealth

1/ Going along with how you wondered, if riches appear mysteriously, can you then, list what were the specific moves carried, in acquiring this idea of the man's so called wealth, hmm?
2/ Do you know of any FTSE or NSE companies this man has ever run or is running, hmm?
Christianity Etc › Re: No Man Can Serve Two Masters: Jesus And "Holy Mary" by MuttleyLaff: 9:50pm On Jul 30, 2019
CodeTemplar:
So how do we differentiate what to do in order to serve God and what leads to serving Mammon?
"Seek the Kingdom of God above all else, and live righteously, and He will give you everything you need."
- Matthew 6:33
Christianity Etc › Re: No Man Can Serve Two Masters: Jesus And "Holy Mary" by MuttleyLaff: 9:38pm On Jul 30, 2019
CodeTemplar:
So you mean Solomon's riches appeared mysteriously and he didn't make any move for it other than his request for wisdom?
"10It was pleasing in the sight of the Lord that Solomon had asked this thing.
11God said to him,
“Because you have asked this thing and have not asked for yourself long life, nor have asked riches for yourself, nor have you asked for the life of your enemies, but have asked for yourself discernment to understand justice,
12behold, I have done according to your words. Behold, I have given you a wise and discerning heart, so that there has been no one like you before you, nor shall one like you arise after you.
13“I have also given you what you have not asked, both riches and honor, so that there will not be any among the kings like you all your days.
"
- 1 Kings 3:10-13

"But remember the LORD your God, because He is the one who gives you the ability to produce wealth..."
- Deuteronomy 8:18

Nwanne, 1 Kings 3:10-13 and Deuteronomy 8:18 are useful and informative verses, moreover when one thing is said, the clever person understands three and sees the picture from joining the dots.

Of course King Solomon wasnt sitting on his hands, doing nothing. He had to be doing something before God can bless the work of his hands. Riches dont appear mysteriously, it only does in Nollywood films, with scam juju babalawo(s) and myths about women pants and benz
Christianity Etc › Re: A Pastor Of Bestselling Relationship Book Says He Is No Longer Christian by MuttleyLaff:
jesusjnr:
Hmmm. This one that his apology to the LGBT community coincided with the end of his marriage, could he be insinuating what i think?
He is not insinuating anything that you think. The guy has woke but I guess, his now ex-missus is still shackled to heavy indoctrination(s), so it split them

It's the similar thing with the Oyaks, only that its was the reverse, it is his ex-missus, in their case, that woke and hence their inevitable split too.

jesusjnr:
Definitely the stronger foundation that the obedience of the Words of Jesus provides is needed because the storms and winds that beat against the house are getting stronger.
We live in a post-truth era, where cast iron facts, are viewed as irrelevant or less important than indoctrinations, deliberate and calculated lies, personal beliefs and opinions

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