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VRDroid:
Religions have no answers to the questions asked

False religion has no answer I agree and accept

VRDroid:
This is 3D reality within a larger reality.

Our spectrum of consciousness is limited to a set of frequencies within a larger multidimensional system and you can access other dimensions using ESP and meditation. Disconnect the 5 senses and go within your universe and you will see the fractals and geometries that are building blocks of this reality.

Yes it is a 3D reality within a larger reality, but you dont go beyond your limit, especially not a whims and caprices. That's the first misstep man, in the beginning made. When you pry, poking about and look at the dark side, careful you must be, for the dark side will turn and look back at you too.

Have nothing to do with the useless works, that darkness produces

VRDroid:
Stop reading and started experiencing. Cos you are wasting your time.

What made you think anyone is reading and not experiencing, hmm? How did you arrive at others wasting their time, hmm?

Oche211:
This your weed is strong oo.

Nothing wey igbo no fit cause and/or curse pesin ooo. Hin bin like say, igbo don scatter this yin head yafin comot. kkins25 must now be an original igbo man. Pardon the pun. Igbo kwenu.

kkins25:
PREFACE: Argumentum ad Hominem

Welcome dear reader, I employ you, as you read this piece to open your mind to the logos(word). You cannot discover truth until you have used the logos to test all spirits. Have you tested the spirit of Christianity? 1 John 4.

What makes you certain you climb the mountains of eternal life? is it because it was written by a third party who had no personal relationship with Jesus Christ wrote in a book that Jesus said or claims he is the truth, the way and life
Foolish believer!! Test the spirit- Christianity which you inherited from your parents whose ancestors had no choice but to accept and believe in for fear of the terrifying whip of their colonial masters.

is it not written that an evil spirit would yield evil fruits, didn't the fathers of your faith murder those who didn't accept the cross? haven't women and children burned at the stakes for not kneeling the cross?
foolish believer!! listen to your master - the logos. the logos is the truth, the way and the life.

What has Jesus said or preached that other masters before him had not? If you think no one has confidently promised his followers eternal life then my dear reader, let me suffer you to engulf the wisdom of the masters of masters – hermmes trismmegetus himself.


But you didn’t know this because you, my dear reader- never tested the spirit you blindly subscribe to.

This article, write up, jargon or whatever you deem it fit is being designed to open your eyes to paths you are blinded to by exposing the blunders of God(the Abrahamic)concept of God). let the words of kkins

Enjoy!!!

[img]https://s3/images/MuttleyManicalHilarious.gif[/img]
I laugh, literally out loud

Dafemich:
As a human being, is it the body that make us walk, talk and see, or the spirit? I posted this in this section because I need a spiritual perspective to this

Of course, it is the body

Dafemich:
So what does the spirit do. Just asking because there is a point am driving at

I am interested in knowing what the point is you're driving at. Once I know, I'll be happy and pleased to in details, tell you what does the spirit do

Dafemich:
Are to say the mind is in the spirit or what

The mind is not the spirit. The mind is part of the faculties of the soul.

Dafemich:
Let then ask you. Why is it at death, when the spirit leaves the body, the body can't function again. immediately the spirit leaves the body, the body can't function again

Very good and obvious observation

For the life of the body is in the blood and the life of the soul is in the spirit. When the spirit leaves the body, it returns back to God, leaving the body inanimate, motionless and lifeless, as in without life or no more with life

Dafemich:
My brother, where do you get all this from, science right. Men, you are wrong. Our ability to think, talk and walk, is from the spirit. The body was just created to house the spirit. what make us who we are, is not in the body, the spirit. Let take you to where I know.

The Bible said in John 6:63 that it is the spirit that give life; the flesh profiteth nothing. there is nothing the body does, but house the spirit and carry out the function of the spirit

Your first half comment is wrong, but with the second half, you seem to be coming back to reality by referencing John 6:63, which I incidentally have hinted about earlier above

VRDroid:
The Bible is the worst place to research about the nature of our reality.

I recommend meditation and quantum sciences.

Dont believe this guy, he is probably billyonaire in incognito. The bible is the best resource learning place, ever. Ignore the bible at your peril

Dafemich:
That is where you make the mistake. The Bible is not a research book. The Bible is a book inspired by God. The content of it, can transform your life and give you peace. I don't know what you are looking for trying to research, but I can tell you, it is all in the Bible. Pick up a copy and read with a open mind, and you will find rest for your soul

Phew! Thank God your head is still there

Maestro21:
You put up the most laughable arguments ever and how you aim to brandish yourself as someone who is researched even makes it more comical. In 2002, 10 years into his marriage he is throwing shade at his wife and her father. In 2007, 15 years into the marriage he is doing same. But it takes his wonderful wife, 7 years after this to realize the shade? Someone just tried to pass this off as an intelligent comment.

You are still bent on embarrassing yourself further by taking delight in being an ignoranus, hmm? I guess you're a glutton for embarrassment, erhn? Oyaks, is a pastor preaching to himself. Preaching sermons in codes, about himself and whats going down in his marital life. The shoe has being pinching his toes sotay, long time, before it got taken off

Maestro21:
In the realm of common sense, we call what you are trying to do revisionist nonsense. You have proceeded to accuse him of throwing shade now because he is divorced, for a message he preached 7 and even 12 years prior. Imagine if he used a hypothetical example of sons who disobeyed their fathers. I guess you would have to wait for eternity to find who the shade was directed at since he has no biological male children to be shading. Because in your distorted sense of reasoning, every example a teacher uses, must be somewhat related to his own personal life. I don't think your type of intelligence is useful to the world or the church.

All men are created equal, then a few become glorified firemen, like Maestro21 putting out fire for Oyakhilome

peteonline:
Re: Pastor Chris.
Pastor Chris, an influential speaker said that, the woman was not in God's original plan, she was an after thought after God found the man to be alone. This teaching is in error as there is NO limit to the foreknowledge of God. Isaiah 46:10 said that God declares the end from the beginning and nothing happens to God unawares. When God said everything He made is good was AFTER He created the woman and not before.

This is the truth:
God's original plan for Adam or man was to DOMINATE ALL THE EARTH Genesis 1:26. He knew right from His original plan and design that Adam would not be able to reproduce his kind alone without the help of a woman. Is He not the same God that created the other animals in pairs? The design of a man with a male sex organ clearly shows that the woman was in the original plan right from the beginning.

God only waited and created the woman at the right time because He is a God of order and not chaos. God made the man first and gave him the leadership role, so you see, Adam did not buy or earn this position, it's a gift from God. Because of this, Adam or man really do not have the right to lord himself over the woman or demand a master-servant relationship, because his position in the first place is only a privilege and not a right.

Submission from the woman should come naturally, it should be a result of the man's faithfulness and love for her, such a love that can be compared to the way Jesus loves his church. Anything other than this can create chaos, rebellion and separation.

Maestro21, have you finished reading the voice of reason from peteonline above, hmm?

positivelord:
Pastor you have a point there...but I take exception to you indirectly throwing the blame for your own fail marriage on innocent parents of your EX (Anita)

positivelord, you know I tried but the truth is a bitter pill for some people like Maestro21 to swallow. Maestro21, peele, ndo. Or is it too late now to say sorry?

Maestro21:
Which segues into another not too useful way you tried to cover up your "ish" and "aner" misapplication. Contextualization is your friend and not your enemy. In Genesis 3:16, when the Bible says "her desire will be for her ish" it could very well translate to her desire will be for her man, but since the context here was referring to the man being hers it was contextually proper to use husband. That same word ish was used in Genesis 2:23 but there we see it translated and transliterated into its original meaning "man".

You really are serious about this going about desperately scraping the bottom of the barrel business sha

Maestro21:
There is another word that was used as husband as well. Baal. In Jeremiah 31:32 when God says he is husband to his people the word translated as husband there is from the Hebrew baal which means master. So in that context the same word, husband did not mean man. It meant master.

Interestingly, in Hosea 2:16, the Bible says call me ishi and not baali. This could have very well been translated as call me your husband and not your husband but it will make no sense. So contextually it was more meaningful to say call me your man and not your master. Call me your husband and not your owner. This undeniably proves that the word husband contextually means man, master, ruler, owner. But whilst ish could mean man or husband. Baal unshakeably meant husband or master.

"In that day,” declares the LORD, “you will call Me ‘my husband,’ (i.e. Ishi) and no longer call Me ‘my Master’ (i.e. Baali)."
- Hosea 2:16

"And it shall be at that day, saith the LORD, that thou shalt call me Ishi; and shalt call me no more Baali."
- Hosea 2:16 KJV

Hosea 2:16, clearly makes a distinction between husband and master, where incidentally master, means lord as in owner, just as I earlier pointed out about Sarah and Abigail.

Abigail, a badass strong, successful, powerful and intelligent virtuous woman, at 1 Samuel 25:41, in a token of humility, responded to David's proposal of marriage, and replied back saying: "Behold, let thine handmaid be a servant to wash the feet of the servants of my lord." Abigail, the badass strong, successful, powerful and intelligent virtuous woman, without compulsion, without psychological preaching tactics games or gimmick, brought herself down and small before David, as if she is an insignificant person, then saying to him, she wants to take care of David's servants and then referred David, as her lord.

Many years before Abigail, used it, lord is the same adjective, Sarah, used for her husband Abraham too. Lord, is the same word we get landlord from, which means the owner of a house, apartment, condominium, land or real estate which is rented. Sarah and Abigail, were merely recognising that their husbands are their owners, just as they are equally, the owners of their husbands.

Maestro21:
So if Pastor Chris says the word husband means master he was right by the Bible.

If he truly was right, why does Hosea 2:16, clearly make a distinction between husband and master, hmm?

Maestro21:
Now, why did God create male and female animals? That is not the right question. The right question is, why did God create male and female animals at the same time? Because of procreation. But when it came to man, the Bible says he created the man alone. It is important because Genesis 2 gives a more descriptive trail of events than Genesis 1 that was a summary. In Genesis 1, we understand that God placed male in female into the man he created. Then in Genesis 2, we see where God seems to have an epiphany and says it is not good that the man he created is alone. So he takes out the female in him and creates him a woman to help him.

Blind loyalty, is such an interesting term and you dont cease to amaze me with your blind loyalty to Oyaks to the extent of defending his false teachings and heresies.

You say that an Omniscient God, an all knowing God, a God knowing everything, had an epiphany, hmm Maestro21? Chai! You no go keel pesin with profane talk with matter wey boku for ground already, come join am put with this your blasphemy. Maestro21, please brush up on Isaiah 46:10a, to get rid of your tooth truth decay

Please tell Maestro21, when God created Adam with a peniis, was Adam meant to fairk himself to procreate ni, hmm? I think you must be a sheeple. SMH. I just wish you use those little grey matter of yours better and properly because this thing about you, just dey tire me.

Maestro21:
You may not like the construction of the term but it is clear as day that the woman does appear to be an afterthought unlike the animals which he created at the same time. Which is why Paul expressly states by the holy spirit, that the woman was made for the man and not man for the woman (in other words, I did not make man because I had a woman in mind. I made a woman because I already made a man who was alone). Again, what does that imply? That since she was made because of the man. The man was the original idea and she was the secondary idea. It is not that hard to reason. There is a reason why something is called SECONDary. It is because it comes AFTER the first.

You are still bent on repeating this garbage that women were an afterthought, after being told it is a right load of old codswallop, hmm?

Maestro21:
This pretentious and deceitful advocacy for egalitarianism in marriage you are trying to portray is contrary to the scripture. Pastor Chris teaches about the equality of male and female in Christendom but stresses that the dynamic changes in marriage. Unlike the error you have in your transcription, He also says that he wonders why many women in Christianity are so eager to get married considering how submissive the Bible expects them to be. In another teaching, he taught on how women's role in the union was to "lead from behind". So he was not emphasizing a master-slave relationship but only pointing out that the woman's authority in a marriage was not equal to her husband's. She was to be under his authority.

Oyakhilome is advocating elitism. Suck it up

In his teaching Oyaks is looking for a yes-woman, a weak person wife, who always will agree with the president and founder of Christ Embassy church, Chris Oyakhilome, the superior at work and master at home.

Listen Maestro21, man and woman, might have different roles to play and its true their roles might be different, but their rights are equal.

Of course, the man is the head, no one is disputing that, but the woman is the neck too, and she, as the neck, can turn the head whichever way she pleases. Maestro21, man doesnt need to or have to demand submissiveness of his wife, because this has to come naturally by the woman's own volition and not by hook or by crook methods, like the ones preached by the president and founder of Christ Embassy church, Chris Oyakhilome.

Maestro21, if you let your head get too big, it'll break your neck and he who waits for the sword to fall upon his neck, will surely lose his head. This is why its advised to cover and protect our wives. Husbands, are to love their wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave Himself up for her.

Unlike Oyaks and probably you too Maestro21 included, everyone knows that when a husband puts his foot down on the neck, he develops a stiff neck, that will likely drive him insane. When a husband breaks the neck, he eats no more. Husbands should try neck kisses, as nobody is immune to the neck kiss, but oohh no, Oyaks is too spiritual for that

Maestro21:
And Paul taught EXACTLY the same and even advised women, that to him, it was better for them not to marry especially if they wanted to be leaders in the church. As that will put them under their husband's authority which could pose untoward consequences if the man in question was not godly or spiritual.

What is the bible chapter and verse reference to this improbable concoction you've made up please? Thank you.

Holycity:
Whats the difference between the spirit and the soul?
have be wondering
abeg guys help me answer this one

In the purest form, the difference is that, upon death, the soul awaits judgement and the spirit goes back to God. Of course, off topic, the body, goes back to dust, as in, earth

solite3:
which falsehood are you refuting?

No need for further explanation than say the falsehoods, now in this age and time, exploded by those looked at as rebels

Shepherd00:
You talk too much and plenty nonsense too. those women you.mentioned were they successful in their marriage yes. In their time, was they feminism? No. Their society was all Patriarchy meaning they submitted wholely to their husbands. Stop repeating terms like a broken record hoping by them you'd mKe sense.

You insult and castigate every Preacher but you get angry when someone states the obvious abt you here. Hypocrite.

You need drama like oxygen, so I'll keep schtum, it will take your breath away.

Shepherd00:
Why not try acting mature sometimes? I know you are a man not a Child.

How did I gloat and at who?

There was peace and tranquility on this thread until when you arrived muscling in. Why not go flex your muscles elsewhere. No one is interested, at least not me

Shepherd00:
To Gloat means to show in an improper or selfish way that you are happy with your own
 success or another Person's failure.

On this note, what am I gloating about here pls? So calling pressplay to the fact that you had a plan to turn his thread to a homosexual thread gloating at your failures?

I don't understand, pls clarify.

I am sorry, you want it as bad as oxygen to know, dont you?

Shepherd00:
Bros, there's nothing to gloat about here sincerely. The reason I responded the way I did to him it's because, he had hauled curses on me before on his thread, I just laughed it away and ignored him, he started here again, like be had monopoly to curses.

I don't curse people, but he shd keep his own to himself.

I am quite sure pressplay411 is level headed enough to see things for what they really are

Shepherd00:
All of a sudden

Yes ooo. All of a sudden.

Shepherd00:
You are too precious to Jehovah whose precious Words you employ every means possible to twist and destroy its sanctity.

Maybe you don't know that Pride is the Chief fruit of the Evil Spirit, then let me inform you. MuttleyLaff you are sooo proud and arrogant that, it's hard for one to reconcile you with the scriptures you quote.

If i lie about you being homosexual then curse me, and i will against my best judgement curse for Falsifying scriptures to suit your whims.

When the proverbial shiit hits the fan, you know where to find me, is all I'll say

I have subtracted the negative from my life, to make room for more positives

pressplay411:
It can be tempting to gloat, but we should try not to.
Grace to us all.

Your head still dey there, that is why. You're spiritually matured enough not to want to succumb and descend to that level
Besides what they both, Shepherd00 and Anas09, are gloating at, is a mirage, an optical illusion, as it were

Shepherd00:
Let me.remine you Muttleylaff. If you come at me physically, I assure you that your hands cannot reach my skin, if you come at me diabolically, (For only a man who has confidence in his diabolical powers wld be threading people) which it appears you can, it shall come back to you. If you think you know me enough to lay curses on me, try it again.

If a 5yrs old reads your post in this forum, what conclusion do you think he will draw? That you are just an activist or a closet homosexual who claims Christianity and by all means wants to lay a soft bed to land on when he comes out Screaming 'I am a gay Christian and I am a man of god?" Biko shift.

You know what? I don't need to curse a cursed man. You are already cursed Here is the Word for you The curse of the LORD is in the house of the wicked... And because you take a stand against the Lord, and have the audacity to falsify God's Word to justify Sin, Cursed is any man who blesses you. Anyone who wishes you well, misfortunes will not depart from him and his house.
Whatever gives you pleasure shall become a snare to you. MuttleyLaff, don't make speak against you o. Just mind yourself.

Exactly. Let's wait and see how you'd come out soon declaring yourself as a homosexual pastor. After all, you copy from GayChristians101 website freely.

Just Negodu? Who is interested in your stupid laughter?

I will no more dissuade you from sharing false accounts of me or try to convince you not to invent stories about me, and get you to stop spreading untrue and fabricated lies about me too. You already risk nemesis by typing such false words, so I'll leave everything in God's Hands. The world is ruled by letting things take their course. I will let time take its course.

Shepherd00:
Who are the "US?". Hahahahahahahaha. How many gays here have attempted to come out to support your crusade? Poor you.

"US?" is a typo, which has since being removed as it wasnt meant to be in there

Shepherd00:
Who am I irreverencing you? Winders shall never end. I will Revere YHWH and Revere a homosexual. Kai. Father Lord Forgive this reprobate abeg.

MuttleyLaff, Again, I dare you to spew out that trash you call curses and we shall have a go at each other. You did it before I left you, try it again. the

I am too precious to God, whose name is YHWH, that He would not watch and see me without recourse, be subjected to bad, unkind, wicked and thoughtless behaviour of anyone

solite3:
By their fruits you shall know them.

MuttleyLaff was laughing at the Goshen360 "... the ones refuting those falsehood now in this age and time are being looked at as the rebels" comment and not whatever Shepherd00 is mischievously making up to mislead others about me

Shepherd00:
See agent of satan calling me accuser of the brethren. Na today?

And abt Cell group, I just got back. lol, if there's a nuisance, it is you Muttleylaff. the falsifier of the Word of God.

So says, "Alfa Imam, wey no get bia-bia, prophet wey no sabi Bible, the Word of God well enough." Black pot calling snow black

peteonline:
Re: Pastor Chris.
Pastor Chris, an influential speaker said that the woman was not in God's original plan, she was an after thought after God found the man to be alone. This teaching is in error as there is NO limit to the foreknowledge of God. Isaiah 46:10 said that God declares the end from the beginning and nothing happens to God unawares. When God said everything He made is good was AFTER He created the woman and not before.

This is the truth: God's original plan for Adam or man was to DOMINATE ALL THE EARTH Genesis 1:26. He knew right from His original plan and design that Adam would not be able to reproduce his kind alone without the help of a woman. Is He not the same God that created the other animals in pairs? The design of a man with a male sex organ clearly shows that the woman was in the original plan right from the beginning.

God only waited and created the woman at the right time because He is a God of order and not chaos. God made the man first and gave him the leadership role, so you see, Adam did not buy or earn this position, it's a gift from God. Because of this, Adam or man really do not have the right to lord himself over the woman or demand a master-servant relationship, because his position in the first place is only a privilege and not a right.

Submission from the woman should come naturally, it should be a result of the man's faithfulness and love for her, such a love that can be compared to the way Jesus loves his church. Anything other than this can create chaos, rebellion and separation.

MuttleyLaff:
... Contrary to another erroneous thing Oyakhilome says too, that women were an afterthought, that also is a right load of old codswallop. Men are from earth and women are from earth, so whats the big deal in that, hmm? The woman, as a matter of fact, is God's pièce de résistance. She is the best and most important creation, an exciting thing, that happened last in a series of creational things. Praise thy Lord! Hallelujah!!.

Man and woman, might have different roles to play and its true their roles might be different, but their rights are equal. Of course, the man is the head, but the woman is the neck too, and she as the neck, can turn the head whichever way she pleases. Man doesnt need to or have to demand submissiveness of his wife, because this has to come naturally by the woman's own volition and not by hook or by crook methods, like the ones preached by the president and founder of Christ Embassy church, Chris Oyakhilome. If you let your head get too big, it'll break your neck and he who waits for the sword to fall upon his neck, will surely lose his head. Cover and protect your wives. Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her.

MuttleyLaff:
... What he doesnt know, is that he takes God given wisdom to click with strong, opinionated, powerful, successful and intelligent virtuous woman wife.

It is not by gra-gra, not by force, not crook or by crook, that a woman will be submissive to a husband. It comes, the respect and all by volition.

Somebori please give this my brother nwanne peteonline an "oti sẹwọn" chilled cold bottle of orijin and a truckload of kolanuts.

budaatum:
The 'Christian' Shepherd has arrived. Time for those he claims do not do Christ's will to leave the thread for him who reckons he does. Thankfully, it's a thread about idols, my first post on it which is below.

He is trolling and I've warned him that his deliberate irreverences will have consequences. He's gone for his evening cell group meeting now. He can continue over there, in their cell group meeting, to be a pest and nuisance, whilst we have peace and tranquility reign on this thread

Shepherd00:
Here is your false prophet Solite

MuttleyLaff appeared in a false prophet's thread laughing. A homosexual claiming man of god. Nonsense.

You have all the hallmark of the accuser of the brethren

Shouldnt you be at today's evening cell group meeting already and be a pest/nuisance in there, hmm?

Shepherd00:
You go gree? Dem say shit wey go smell Na for mess dem dey take know am. You no be gay, but Every thread you go, you dey carry the matter for head like gala.

Finally, we don't need to be guessing, we now openly know who the Nairaland homosexual man of god is. Weldone o.

MuttleyLaff, this time I won't ignore you, I dare you to threaten me or release those your stupid curses again. You'd know that not only you know curses to release. You are warned.

Try it again, let's see if the homosexual god you worship can strike a Child of Light. Nonsense.

Shepherd00 please dont tempt fate. It is tempting fate to be goading me and encouraging others to come join you stir up things concerning me. You are taking unnecessary and undue risks doing this

Shepherd00:
Homosexual man of god

If you didn’t see it with your own eyes, or hear it with your own ears that I am a homosexual, why are you inventing it with your small mind and sharing it with your big mouth, hmm?

Be it on your head for maliciously and incorrectly be calling me a homosexual man of god. Amen.

Shepherd00:
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Your lies gets busted evertime you open your mouth Na. She na only me dey see?

OokCornel and Oopenmine will soon come and see how busted you are.

What lies. The truth you fail to embrace today, will expose you tomorrow. Truth in time, will always tell and tell on you, it'll always and finally perfectly will do.

Anas09:

Just keep in mind, that, whom who laughs last, laughs the hardest and best

Anas09:
Busted.

Another one suddenly just appeared, crawled out of the woodwork. She joined in with Shepherd00, for a good gloat

Goshen360:
Your #2 point was my exact thought even before I finished reading your article. Anyone not preaching the gospel of Christ is false. And preaching the gospel of Christ doesn't just mean you're mentioning Christ in your preaching. You said it all, the death, burial, ressurection, Ascension and the glory that followed...this is the finished works of to FOR THE BELIEVERS

I came to realize not all those who teaches or preaches falsehood are deliberate. Some are deliberate while some are handed over or passed down the line and these kinds just accepted what was passed down to them unverified.

You will find the common passing down falsehood in churches like DeeperLife, Rccg and Winners and the likes.... that's why falsehood spread so fast in Nigeria
and the ones refuting those falsehood now in this age and time are being looked at as the rebels

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Shepherd00:
What is so hard in that? Now we officially have a homosexual man of god in Nairaland. Isn't that nice?

John 3:34
For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.
He whom God calls and sends, speaks the word of God, not falsify it.

If you believe you can be fuquing your fellow men and still call the wrath of YHWH on people, I dare you again to try.

MuttleyLaff, you have been threading me in this forum and I always laugh at you, but, if you push me too hard, it won't be God I will be calling against you, it will be the demons you serve.

The next time you open you anus or another man opens his anus to you, your penis shall be stuck and it shall end in your deaths so that you can go and meet your god. Nonsense. Be warned.

What is your problem Shepherd00? Have I ever told you or confided in you that I am homosexual ni?

What are you gaining from making false accusations about my sexuality, hmm?

I havent been threading you nor threatening you, but I have been forewarning you to desist from your wayward and attention-seeking bad behaviour.

Please make this the last time, who'll ever in your Nairaland life, call me a homosexual, especially when I am not one. OK?

Shepherd00:
Yes, you started, but along the line you are trying to turn it to a homosexual thread like you tried to do to mine sometime ago.

Go to your dry thread. Since we dumped you, you ve been running around looking for a way to talk about men sexing men. Na so the thing dey do you?

@Openmine, abeg come help me see this kind man o.

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elated177:
I already know muttleylaff as twister and manipulator of the Scriptures.

If he says "YHVH is love"; he at that moment is speaking the truth. And I will agree with him. The Truth is not partial. The Truth is a respecter of no one.

However, if he turns around and says, "YHVH's love includes acceptance of homosexuality and same sex aberration called marriage", I will, with unmitigated passion, disagree with him.

Am I going to deny that Yahushua the Messiah is the Son of YHVH anytime Satan, the father of lies, makes such statement?

Read:

Acts 16:16 And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying:

16:17 The same followed Paul and us, and cried, saying, These men are the servants of the most high Elohim, which shew unto us the way of salvation.

16:18 And this did she many days. But Paul, being grieved, turned and said to the spirit, I command thee in the name of Yahushua the Messiah to come out of her. And he came out the same hour.

Did Paul and Silas deny the truth because it came from the mouth of a demon possessed girl?

Shouldnt you be going to cell group meeting this evening already ni, hmm?

You’ll just wake up and decide you want to have panadull for someone's else headache. What’s all these, hmm? Cant you see from above again, who introduced the subject of homosexuality to the thread ni? Abi which kind bad belle is this you have, erhn? Now you are calling others, so to turn the thread into a circus, right?

Shepherd00:
No be for your mouth I go hear say you be "MoG?".

Why can't you say it? What's the big deal in saying 'I am a man of God?' if you truly are?

Oh, you do not want to be referred to as a homosexual man of god

Shepherd00, I am a man of God.

I am a true son of the Almighty God, Yahweh, a vengeful God. God keeps me as the apple of His eye and hides me in the shadow of His wings. Anyone who contends with me, contends with God. He stands up against those who stand up against me. You have been warned, so beat it!

Shepherd00:
Na so this thread take turn to homosexual thread. Pls someone shd stop MuttleyLaff from staining every thread he enters with his shitty fingers.

Shepherd00:
MuttleyLaff, this is not a homosexual thread, go to your filthy thread and campaign for homosexuality.

He is not aware that you have an agenda of trying to turn this thread into a shitty homosexual thread that is why he is indulging you.

Pressplay, pls stop before Everything about this thread will be about homosexuality.


47 pages you couldn't prove to the world that homosexuality is Scriptural, when you were caught you claimed we were not ready to hear or see it. You have shamelessly brought your filthymind with you here.

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elated177:
You see, budaatum, even muttleylaff - a chronic, dyed in the wool, unrepentant twister and manipulator of the Scriptures -has shamed his employer and master, Satan, and stated the truth here.

Though, the saints must not be deceived.

budaatum:
I'd remind you, you said so when he tells you Gods word is love same gender sex people.

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Except for you, everyone can read, everyone can read to see that, I, from Page 0 started this thread with OP without introducing anything about same sex attraction. The evidence is shown above with the interaction between elaated177 and budaaatum

Shepherd00:
Here we go.

Shepherd00:
Stop responding to that pervert he will turn your thread to a homosexual thread.

Focus on your Op.

This nah joblessness of d highest order. That is why you are poke nosing into a post not concerning you but meant for pressplay411 to answer. SMH

Shepherd00:
Tell him.

What's to tell, hmm, my good customer, my customer mi daada ni, erhn?

Shepherd00:
If you are not shy state in plain terms who you are. Stop hiding under moG

"But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:"
- John 1:12

"¹⁴For those who are led by The Spirit of God, these are the sons of God.
¹⁶And that Spirit testifies to our spirit that we are sons of God;"
- Romans 8:14 & 16

Na for my mouth, you wan hear, make I tell una, say na fish dey inside sardine abi Shepherd00?

pressplay411:
It's not carnal because it is a spiritual exchange - Mind games.

Some people who should be spiritually mature and ready to answer hard and specific questions, aren't really spiritually mature enough and so aren't ready to answer hard, specic and sraightforwad direct questions.

pressplay411:
You should be careful, lest you start to sound like the Serpent himself.

The difference between the serpent and MuttleyLaff, is that MuttleyLaff is not set out to trick anyone

budaatum:
I would say "beliefs", instead of knowledge.

Belief without knowledge is a dangerous thing. This is why God draws a distinction between beliefs and real truth

A lot of interlocutors on the Religion forum have beliefs and truths not real, and just have them without knowledge

budaatum:
While many think what they know is knowledge, I often find that what many call knowledge are the elements of their belief. Knowledgeable people know that they can't possibly know everything so they would not exactly hold on so tenaciously to what they know because they know they can learn more everyday, while believers know already and tend not to learn especially if it contradicts their beliefs.

it's important to know that, knowledge is learning something new every day and recognise that, wisdom is letting go of something every day

With full knowledge, you're always, in a win win situation, but with weak knowledge you can always fail. Activate your lateral thinking, harness your critical thinking skills, and prove with good logic, that you can be a great and good detective.

Do not blindly have faith in rickety psychological scaffolding of regurgitated beliefs. Note that the longest held belief does not make it the truest, The ideal of a perfectly fair society is a bunch of just make-believes. Shift through your thoughts. Doubt. Question. Query. Deconstruct what you think is true about the world and about you. Make yourself a virgin, make yourself as innocent as Eve again, but this time wiser, with a lot of sense wiseness.

Find out what you can learn from other people. Such people come into our lives and are a part our live for a reason. If you ignore the signals to what could be learned from what such people bring, life will bring them back again and again, turned up in volume and dressed differently.

The devil has no power ... except in the dark and especially when you are in the dark and not in the know.

bereto:
This is the problem people who are pained by something done by the opposite sex tend to find something to put them back on top. Woman was in God's original plan imagine he created all animals two and you think he didn't have the same plan for man? He waited for two reasons
1. That man comes to see the importance of a companion, as they say familiarity brings contempt if they came together Adam may not have noticed her usefulness
2. That man comes to realize that they are not different but the same

The problem is not about who is the head or not it's about separation of powers and this can be solved in different ways when the parties involved understand each other.

Without this understanding we get feminists and masculinists like Pastor Chris

Somebori please give this my brother an "oti sẹwọn" chilled cold bottle of orijin and a truckload of kolanuts.

pressplay411:
I forgot to add it before but MuttleyLaff helped me remember the very foremost idol of man- Knowledge.
It is this same cunning that the Serpent employed to trick the first Man.
Eve fell simply due to her lust for knowledge.

The drive to acquire knowledge illegitimately was the undoing of Eve pressplay411. You actually aptly got it right, when you used the word lust to describe her action, as it really was an uncontrolled quest for knowledge. Eve was blamed for acquiring knowledge, she was blamed for going against God's command not to go after the fruit of the the tree, at the expense of death.

pressplay411:
Dear, MuttleyLaff, enough with your mind games.
You want us to believe what is contrary to the Word of God. You want to make it seem as if you have a knowledge superior to what God has said.
It is a weapon that is not carnal, I discern your scheme.

For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds, casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ, and being ready to punish all disobedience when your obedience is fulfilled.

I can be curious, but I have long placed the Word of God as my Anchor. Please keep your esoteric knowledge to your self.
You may know the bible, but due to your pride, you have lost and denied its power. Good bye.

"♪, ♩ Nobody wanna give, everybody wanna take. Oya tọtọri mi, one time toh. Tọtọri mi, two times, toh toh! Tọtọri mi, three times, toh toh toh! Tọtọri mi, four times, toh toh toh toh! ♪, ♩♪, ♩"

I think you meant to type it is a weapon that is carnal and not type, it is a weapon that is not carnal. That your slip of tongue, is what is called a freudian slip. It is is an unintentional error in speech or writing, regarded as revealing your subconscious feelings.

You discern an imaginary scheme. "Alfa Imam, wey no get bia-bia, prophet wey no sabi Bible well enough to be discerning scheme, dede"

We can easily forgive a child, who is afraid of the dark, the travesty and real tragedy of life is, when men are afraid of the light.

Maestro21:
How can you possibly argue with me except you are as confused and bereft of common sense as I already suspected. What if I told you that I was in the venue what would you say? What if I also told you he has taught similar things even in 2002, what would you say? How will that help the rubbish you have above?

"Of course, the shoes has been pinching his feet since around and before 2007. Cracks were already showing in his rocky marriage. He couldnt and didnt know how to handle this badass strong, successful, powerful and intelligent virtuous woman of a wife he had. He was at wits end, that is why he had to resort to misinterpreting the Bible, like, saying husband in the Bible means master, when what it means is man, like a woman having a man, as in a husband. That was lie #1."
- Religion / Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome: Woman Was Not God's Original Idea (video) by MuttleyLaff: 8:34pm On Jul 12

Only the wearer of the shoe, Oyakhilome, knew where and how the shoe was pinching his toe. Hin do tay, wey yansh don be for fowl back

Maestro21:
Husband in the Bible means man?

"This is teaching gone totally and terribly bad because, husband, in the Bible, doesnt mean and never means master. The original Hebrew word that we get the English translation, husband from, is "ish". "Ish" means, man, as in, the woman, in the truest sense of the word, literally has herself a man. It doesnt as Oyakhilome erroneously puts it, means master. The equivalent Greek word "aner" that we get the English translation, husband from, also too, means, man"
- Religion / Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome: Woman Was Not God's Original Idea (video) by MuttleyLaff: 5:02am

He who laughs last, laughs the hardest. Why dont you risk causing yourself further embarrassment by telling what husband means in the Bible please, hmm?

Maestro21:
Juxtapose your lie 2 claim with Petra1's post above. I want to see if contextualization is your issue or if you are just a dummy.

"... let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. If you want to live according to the Bible, according to the Scriptures, then understand what the word says. The reason God made woman was because of man. He made the woman because of the man. That's why He made the woman. So women was not His original idea

Listen this is reality. Okay alright, scripture let's talk about. Let's say what the Bible says, now listen, when God have made everything and then
He made Adam, the Bible says everything was very good, already, everything was very good. No problem, then he got Adam. Listen. Okay, now be quiet, let me tell you something, if most women had their father bold enough to talk to them they will be very successful in their marriage and will be very happy people. Most women have never been taught by their parents, their fathers particularly that's the biggest problem, they don't know who a man is, they think he's another woman. You see in a marriage you have the man who is the head of that Union and because he is the head of that union it is important to understand him. Now you think, he is the one that needs to understand his wife. That is where you're wrong. He will but until you know who you have married, the man that you came, it is like working for somebody and not knowing what he wants. It's like serving somebody and not knowing what he wants. When you say that you're marrying a man, you are coming under his authority. The Bible says the man is the head of the woman, so when you marry him, you're coming under his authority. You're not authority sharers, even though you are both heirs to the kingdom of God because there there is neither male nor female but we are functioning here, that's why you were given the body of a woman and he given the body of a male, so in that union in that relationship there is a head, so when you say you're marrying a man, you are subjecting yourself to his authority

Now when you decide not to subject yourself to that authority, you are a rebel. Can you see that and God's not going to accept what you're doing. He cant accept it because you're not functioning correctly. Why did God make the woman? Simple, when you start in Genesis He says this, study all the way from chapter 2 into chapter 3, you see the whole thing, now He says, He brought all the animals before Adam, to see what he would call them and name them and when he was done, the Bible tells us there was not found a suitable one for Adam, no suitable company or companion for Adam, then God said, it is now at this point I want us to read it. Some of you women when I'm through with this you'll be in a hurry to marry"
- Oyakhilome teaching badly

You sure have become a maestro in bullshit, from the years of bullshit feeding you've received from Oyakhilome. Do you now see, how Oyakhilome moved on to then indirectly take a swipe at his wife's father. Codely saying the father didnt train the wife how to relate with a husband. Oyakhilome, was preaching about what he was dealing with at home. There is no two ways about it, mister maestro in bullshit.

Now, mister a glutton for embarrasing himself, tell why did God create male and female animals but according to Oyakhilome, woman was not part of God's original idea, hmm? That according to Oyakhilome, the woman is an afterthought, erhn?

You and Petra1, should stop trying to make fetch happen with 1 Corinthians 11:8-10. Paul did not use 1 Corinthians 11:8-10 to put forward an argument that the woman is an afterthought. Yes, it’s true that woman was created second, coming after man first was created. It is also true man was alone, as in, was without other people, until when the woman appeared on the scene, but it doesnt in any way mean the woman is an afterthought, like Oyakhilome put forward

Do you know what rubber ducking is? Well, I'll tell you for free. That is precisely what Oyakhilome, before and after the collapse of his marriage, was doing. That is the actual truth in this matter. It is an Oyakhilome soliloquy going on, revealing the struggle and battle he was dealing with at home and las las never won

Please dont ever again be thinking of whether anyone here on this thread is just a dummy or not. OK? I am counting on you to appreciate that an advice word to the wise is enough and an intelligent person, like yourself can readily take a hint. There is not enough darkness in all the world, to put out the light of even one small candle, the like myself.