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Image123:
Getting scars is different from showing up for scars by looking for temptation. Don't forget the trail. Paul suffered persecutions, imprisonment and the likes for standing up for Jesus, preaching the gospel, healing. The scars you referred to are not through this route but having to do with watching TV, trying not to be aroused, having close shaves with prostitutes. My oga, e no match. Sorry. What is the thing, because if i assume now, you will say that you can't remember mentioning the thing i assume. Lol. MuttleyLaff, game over jare. Next time, don't come and endorse garbage.

C'mon now Image123, I typed that temptation is everywhere you go and look, but so is God.

I also typed that the secret of using temptation, is turning it, to your advantage, and this, by not giving in to it and remaining unbeatable by it. I reiterated that, the worst kind of temptation are the ones we give in to, without getting anything substantial back in return, except for the shocking stark reality of the discovery of our frailty.

I then confirmed as you believe, that, it is easier to abstain, easier to avoid temptation than resist it. I agreed that, it is a good thing to control the access gates to our spirit beingness but then asked, if considered that life isn't about avoiding getting bruises, but collecting the scars to prove you showed up for it, hmm?

I had earlier on, referenced 1 Corinthians 10:13, stating that, God will not allow the temptation to be more than you can stand, and when you are tempted, He will show you a way out so that you can endure and restrain yourself from doing or enjoying that tempting thing. This is exactly what transpired with Joseph and his escape or exit strategy. There always is an escape route, only some of us refuse to take it or are too weak

Image123:
The "Lord's prayer" : lead us not into temptation.
MuttleyLaff 's idea: we will look for temptation.

Eerrrrrrrrr, Eerrrrrrrrr, I'll stick to the Lord.

Remember what brought all these up, is when you typed the above quote. At which I replied at, saying:

"Nwanne Image123, God, doesnt not lead into temptation, what the Lord's prayer in Matthew 6:13 is saying, is, "do not let us fall into temptation". It's pretty easy to fall into temptation you know. Who no know this, no go know.

Embrace and stick to 1 Corinthians 10:13 above biko"

You rather believers be wrapped up in cotton buds, dont eat spicy or pepper foods etcetera, just mollycoddle them and dont let them be exposed to any form of temptation to resist or danger, hmm

Of course, if one is faint hearted, easily aroused or something, then fair dos, give TV programs like that a wide berth. The thing, since you asked for clarifications, is what lovers like enjoying together. I am not endorsing garbage, just saying garbage and treasure are there for the taking by those with backbones and who can handle them without getting burnt, butter nobi monkey's food.

Image123:
So MuttleyLaff, tell me sir. How do Paul's persecutions and imprisonments compare to watching pornographic TV shows? It's a simple non-hypercritical question.

You typed: The Bible does not tell me to show up for scars, i don't know...

So I showed you one or two examples about people getting scars. I can't remember when last I watched a TV show or program. I was commenting on temptation and not necessarily on some poxy TV show, whether pornographic or not. Please stop being a prude and behaving as if you don't do and enjoy doing the thing.

Image123:
Good to know it's easier to abstain. In that case, I'll do the easier thing, which the Bible also commands "Abstain from appearance of evil". I don't need careless scars. Even Jesus escaped from careless scars. Not one of His bones were broken even till death. The Bible does not tell me to show up for scars, i don't know where you are getting this morbid fascinations for pornographic scars from.

"²⁴Five times I received from the Jews the forty lashes minus one.
²⁵Three times I was beaten with rods, once I was stoned, three times I was shipwrecked. I spent a night and a day in the open sea."
- 2 Corinthians 11:24-25

"From now on, don't make any trouble for me!
After all, I carry the scars of Jesus on my body."
- Galatians 6:17

You sure enjoy exaggerations and blowing things out of proportions, where is the idea of morbid fascinations for pornographic scars coming from, huh? So person cant just make an innocent and observational comment anymore, without someone else taking it apart and hypercritically expressing an unfavourable opinion about it, hmm?

FOLYKAZE:
At what point did God created the soul according to the bible?

We only have the body and spirit.

It's not like as if, I am revealing any great secret, but Ezekiel 18:20, in the Bible, even attests that the soul that sinneth, it, according to God's rule, shall die

When you look at the dark side, careful you must be, for when the dark side looks back too to stare.

Read this FOLYKAZE. Do you ever recoil back, when watching something gruesome happening in real life or maybe just on a TV screen slash internet, like in a horror film or something. If you do, well that's your spirit not wanting to be needlessly grieved. Sometimes, you protect the gateway to your spirit man because you might not necessarily want to relive or remember that moment, so you block any avenue, contact or link to that thing happening or going on at that moment.

FOLYKAZE:
I have a document here by JW. It argues that an animated body is the soul. And that it is a not distinctive entity like body or soul.

The argument is approved by someone verses in the Bible where souls are uses in place of head, or living person or individual

It is ruach, the Spirit from God, that keeps the human body animated. When the spirit, as in the breath, returns back to God, the body slumps and the soul goes into comatose. It is similar to a TV animated cartoon reverting to a cartoon strip on a comic book or magazine paper.

What Makes Man?
Or better still what is man FOLYKAZE?
Man is a spirit being, residing or housed in a Body and possessing a Soul, so Man is made up of Body, Soul (i.e. uses the heart as an outlet) and Spirit.
The Soul has the body and the spirit on each opposite sides of it. In a nutshell, Man essentially, is a spirit being with a soul, housed, encapsulated, and/or wrapped up, in a human being body suit

The spirit and soul have different faculties, and so the faculties of the spirit, comprises of Fellowship, Conscience, Discernment or Intuition, whilst the faculties of the Soul comprises of the Mind (i.e. consciousness and sub consciousness) or Intellect, Will or Freewill, and Emotions and the Body has 5 faculties of senses, which are, to see via the eyes, hear via the ears, feel via applicable part of the body, smell via the nose and taste via the mouth.

Mind you FOLYKAZE, the Soul is the most important existence of Man and that is why the battle is and always has been about or over the Soul. All attacks, are ultimately targeted at and for the Soul. Now, the Soul is the first medium key component of Man created by God and Man is tickled and accessed through this same Soul by way of the body and spirit. The Soul, in effective, is the mediator between the body and spirit

The different faculties in the Soul waits, to pick up signals coming from the relevant and/or applicable faculties in the Body and the Spirit. This crucial bit of information FOLYKAZE, is very important to grasp, that the Soul receives from the Body and deposits into the Spirit. Whatever the Body reads or sees via the eyes, hears via the ears, feels via applicable part of the body, smells via the nose and talks or tastes via the mouth is picked up by the Soul and deposited into the Spirit. The Spirit then, upon receiving things from the Soul, has to deal with or process what the Soul has deposited into its laps.

This is why regulation is very important. It is why we ought to control and oversee what the Soul is picking up from or picking up with the senses. If you have to by all means, eat the chicken or fish, then its necessary to know when and how to spit out the bones, or if it's straw to eat, then know when and how to spit out the sticks, alternatively, if it's liquor to drink, and you cant hold it down so you don't throw it up, then know how or when to stay away from the liquor

The devil has no power, except with and in the dark, so I'll advise the curious to distance self from the dark, to save yourself from misery, but if hellbent on dining with the devil, then make sure you've got a long spoon to eat with.

FOLYKAZE:
Could soul relate to inner self, Ori in Yoruba spirituality. Note, Ori is consciousness.

Yes absolutely, of course, it could and does.
You surely would have noted from the above, that consciousness, which in Yoruba spirituality is ori, is a sub faculty of the Soul, as it's one part of the mind, with the mind itself, being one, out of the 5 main faculties of the Soul

FOLYKAZE, on a sideline, how many types of love, is there, in Yoruba spirituality? Please name or list them

TV01 what happened immediately above me? Tsk, tsk, tsk.

FOLYKAZE:
One of the praises of the Orunmila; baba kerekere finu s'ogbon

Sleep no be death o. When one is dead, bible noted that the body decompose and return to earth, while the spirit returns to God. Eru fun eru, iyepe fun yepe.

Everything you've said is right bar "Sleep no be death o"
The body disintegrates into the sand, as you rightly said, the spirit returns to God again rightly put by you, but the soul, you left out the soul Chief. It's the soul that goes to "sleep", as in being oblivious to all that is happening in the land of the living on earth, but in the "waiting area" pending final settlement

FOLYKAZE:
The scriptures made us to know that God created man and woman and they were perfect yet we have hermaphrodites (both man organ and woman organ in a body)

Misinformation

FOLYKAZE:
God discriminates against Homosexuality (gay and lesbian) but do this applies to Hermaphrodites too?

Because when they have sex with man, they have male sex organ so definately they are gay. And when they have sex with woman, they are lesbian. Are they going to hell automatically because they aint working in nature with one man and one woman marriage?

Never happened. Totally false and misleading. The premise is not true.

FOLYKAZE:
Well there are no heaven (in the sense of Christians), no devil and no death in Yoruba spirituality...

We have Orun, Spiritual realm which contrast with physical realm.

We have no satan, adversary or enemy of God

Death is transition. Ever heard this song, baba o ku, ile lo lo tarara. Meaning baba isn't dead, he went straight home.

Is Yoruba spirituality not beautiful? Don't you just love the philosophy?

"Anu ati imọ" (i.e. meaning mercy and knowledge).
Jesus too said Lazarus was sleeping and not dead.
Yeah, it is beautiful and I do love philosophy. No wonder the Prof, may her soul rest in perfect peace, said Orunmila is as great, if not greater than the Greek father of philosophy Socrates. I think Orunmila's philosophy is superior to Socrates'

FOLYKAZE:
Lol.
Sup dude?

Aboru Aboye Abosise. May you be in heaven a full half hour before the devil realises you're dead.

Someone who is regularly getting laid wouldn't behave this way, and be resorting to sexual objectification, saying a certain person's mere mentioning of their moniker identifier, sexually arouses the mentioned moniker ID owner or gives the mentioned moniker ID owner, a feeling of sexual excitement

Shepherd00:
Are those the only disorders I have? I believe you left out some. I totally have them all. Did I say I am not HOMOPHOBIC? I am.

Good, wear it and all, on your head, like a shrimp then.

Shepherd00:
You wish i were gay. But sorry sir, I fiercely and jealousy defend my Faith. I will not serve satan. Homosexuality is of the devil. it's Satan's version of marriage. You shall fight in Satan's army at Armageddon as you have enlisted as a soldier. dead and destruction awaits you.

No sir, its you, Mr closet and undisclosed homosexual, who desperately wishes I am gay. Being a sexual minority activist, is miles apart from being gay, my friend.

Shepherd00:
God created marriage becos everything He created is in marriage. Everything is male and female.

Marriage is a shadow model of a real thing, what's in heaven. I bet you dont know that. Marriage, as a matter of fact, is a union of the soul with God, there is no male or female in heaven, bet you've forgotten about that fact, as well

Shepherd00:
Sorry, pardon me. I forgot you are gay and see your act as normal

What miserable & unnecessary lies. Never dialogue with someone who believes their own lies. I have never in my life ever sexually admired a well-turned out male anatomy and/or physique
Can I, imagine myself being getting sexually aroused by another man? Nope, as hell, will need to freeze up first before that will ever happen to me. I am not wired up that way Jose.

Shepherd00:
Maybe if you were straight or Homophobic, you'd ve understood what I mean. I watch empire I say Jamal and his men, I see them kiss themselves and I wonder if they are humans. It is sickening to say the least.

"Then Joseph fell on his father's face, and wept over him and kissed him."
- Genesis 50:1

"Greet one another with a kiss of love Peace be to you all who are in Christ"
- 1 Peter 5:14

"All the brethren greet you. Greet one another with a holy kiss."
- 1 Corinthians 16:20

I tell you, you're more confused than a chameleon dropped into a bag of skittles. C'mon, it is to you unhuman, for men to kiss each other now, hmm? SMH. Please tell what sign did Judas give to betray Jesus, huh?

Shepherd00:
But, what van I say, enjoy. There are too many women on earth for me to look at a fellow man.
Thunder fire satan

A world without women, will be a pain in the ass, only some will get it. I doubt you would.

Shepherd00:
Oh, you'd know abt asseholes won't You?

Yep, there is one on this page, one who opened and started this thread.

Shepherd00:
And yes, I'm pissing in my pants to even think of fighting with you. I believe your fingers stink of shit.t some shi.t must stick into your finger nails after sticking them into asseholes. ewwww.

I am not surprised you are because the difference between a brave man and a coward, is, a coward pisses his pant many times over and dies a thousand death before his time but a brave man never tastes death but once

Shepherd00:
You no hear say take your intelligence chop gala?
Oga, abeg carry your shi.t stinky fingers you stick inside asseholes commot for hia.

If I had a lower IQ like this displayed by you, maybe I could enjoy this comment and the others like it.

Shepherd00:
Guy, your mind is stuck on balls. abeg stop harassing my balls in your head.

In your fantasy and in your dreams possibly.

Shepherd00:
By 'To Us' you mean the Gay community in Nairaland?

Whatever floats your boat

Shepherd00:
I will gladly answer these if you'd first answer the questions I posted to you and one Homosexual thread.

I'll believe it when I see you answer the questions

Shepherd00:
Here they are again.

in that thread you said 'They are many usefulness of Homosexuality that you cannot count' and I said 'Give me just 10

For the record, and unlike your fictitious and bogus version of events, it was you, on the "Esoteric Paths" thread, who first brought up the question of the usefulness of Homosexuality, and at which I replied and said:

"The ground wont be able to contain it at all, if I am to tell you the usefulness of homosexuality to humans, seeing as God created everything on earth to be useful to both man and the universe, so I will coyly throw the request back at you by asking:
1/ Who is Leo Varadkar, and how does Leo Varadkar add to the universe?
2/ Who is Alan Turing, and how did Alan Turing add to the universe and you getting to be using computer, either as on a laptop, PC or smartphone? "

but unfortunately, your sail ran out of wind, you bottled it, refused and didnt answer the two questions , that were in my reply to yours.

Anyway, as I've already told whats good before, with two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, in a SSR (i.e. same-sex relationship), as in being gay or homosexual partners minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other, lasting that's a lifetime life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that is not causing damage or harm to another person, not betraying of another person, or even, not cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour, I dont mind and have no qualms repeating myself here of their usefulnes.

1/ Two consenting adults, who love each other is a good and useful thing
2/ That they enjoy each other’s company is a good and useful thing
3/ They are mutually respectful to each other is a good and useful thing
4/ Two consenting adults, mutually supportive to each other, and even sometimes without sex necessarily being the leading or most important thing for them is a good and useful thing
5/ Mutual respect, mutual honesty, mutual truthfulness, mutually supportive of each other etcetera, by two consenting adults is a good and useful thing
6/ Faithful, committed, loving each other, lasting that's a lifetime, as in life-long and loyal relationship, that is not causing damage or harm to another person, for two consenting adults is a good and useful thing
7/ Two consenting adults that are not betraying another person, or even, not cheating on another person is a good and useful thing
8/ Two consenting adults not being harmful to an object, neighbour or anyone else is a good and useful thing
9/ Two consenting adults that are in a lifetime or life-long and loyal relationship is a good and useful thing
10/ Two consenting adults that are in a healthy and stable environment for not only having kids but taking good care of them, is a good and useful thing
11/ Two consenting adults that are not being promiscuous, so a good and useful thing
12/ Two consenting adults, that are at peace with each other, with God and in truth, because their intentions are good and their hearts are pure is a good and useful thing

Shepherd00:
I said, God created everything to be useful to Man and the Universe, what is the Usefulness of Homosexuality?

Question already fully answered above, so start getting ready to answer mine too

Shepherd00:
Again, I asked you where Homosexuality fits in 'Go into the World and Multiply and fill the earth with Children.

They happily fit in 'Go into the World and Multiply and fill the earth with Children via surrogacy, cases in point, Elton John, Enrique "Ricky" Martín Morales aka Ricky Martin, etcetera whilst some, already earlier or along the way have had kids, just like Mpho Andrea Tutu-van Furth, that I advised you to google up or like JayZ's mum

Shepherd00:
You pretended like you didn't see these questions and then went on to post yours.

The evidence at the following pasted link, https://www.nairaland.com/5095694/esoteric-paths/3#77063501 is proof that I did not pretend I didnt see the questions, that I responded to them and then posted my questions which frightened you scared stiff, you couldnt bring yourself to answer, so you resorted to evasion and shunning them.

Shepherd00:
I will answer you, if the stinky-shi.t in your fingers is bearable

Now since I've answered your questions, knuckle down and straight away, go ahead and answer mine. The original first two questions that I coyly threw back at you and the latter other new two questions

1/ Who is Leo Varadkar, and how does Leo Varadkar add to the universe?
2/ Who is Alan Turing, and how did Alan Turing add to the universe and you getting to be using computer, either as on a laptop, PC or smartphone?

1/ Show the word of God I fasified
2/ Also, kindly in a way that a two year old can understand, and this is particularly, if at all, you really do know, tell and explain to us, what specifically is the sin, in homosexuality and what specifically about homosexuality is an abomination to God and say the cause why the bible states that, thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind is abomination.

Shepherd00:
I perceive you a Christian Homosexual

MuttleyLaff:
I am not a Christian Homosexual.
Also I hardly succumb to labelling, but to quench your curiosity, please feel free to perceive me to be a crusader, champion for the underdogs, voice for the voiceless, setting the record straight etcetera.

Shepherd00 please respect other people's LGBT sexual orientation, even if you dont understand or if it doesnt mean anything to you, it means a lot to them. Shepherd00 Life Gets Better Together (LGBT), the moment we realise and recognise that every human being, regardless of sexual orientation leanings, deserves a safe and supportive environment to live in and without feeling fear, restraint or obligation.

You left my questions unanswered, why did you do that?

Shepherd00:
You will stand before Jesus to defend that. i'm out.

MuttleyLaff:
"There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus,
who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit."
- Romans 8:1

Do you know who my Advocate is, the best SAN in the country is no match Shepherd00? My Advocate will defend me from you.

Shepherd00, you really need to lighten up, just enjoy and love others more, don't get so unneccesarily worked up over nothing and stop sipping the homosexuality Kool-Aid.

Dont you realise that our each and every life changing transformation(s) and the point at which a situation is clearly seen and understood, to start to a change in us, exactly rises, pro rata with the amount of truth we can take and take without running away from it

Now, tell me Shepherd00, how you think God will judge others for how they love and not judge you for beefing it, huh?. I dont know how you cope and live comfortably with this your bias. You see, people say, the truth is stranger than fiction... and guess what, the same truth, on that day, will incriminate you. Hiding and running away from the truth, will never make you free. Running away from the truth, is a race, no one ever wins. Make note, that the day you decide, to stop running, is the day that you arrive Shepherd00. I am out too but my door is always ajar.

Shepherd00:
All these preaching, you could have just pointed a few usefulness of homosexuality to mankind.

MuttleyLaff:
You would have realised at least two, if you had committed yourself to answering those two questions instead of highfalutinly ignoring it. I am not surprised you did anyway because that is your modus operandi. If not that, you are either like a bull in a china shop, seeing red and running amok, scatter scattering everything in sight.

Let me turn your request on its head and roll it back to you. Please point out a few evilness in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, having a caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving, lasting that's life-long and loyal, same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour

cc jesusjnr, elated177, Agrogbeide, Alexandro15, Baddiezz, TV01

Philipsevercool:
Joseph that ran away from Potiphar's wife doesn't know what he was doing right? The bitter truth I will tell you here is that don't let you destiny be ruined by this terrible things. The devil has its aims for this. Don't walk yourself into its traps. You may think to be strong, that is deception. I pray that God will help you and all of us.

It is because of comments like this that I referenced 1 Corinthians 10:13, stating that, God will not allow the temptation to be more than you can stand, and when you are tempted, He will show you a way out so that you can endure and restrain yourself from doing or enjoying that tempting thing. This is exactly what transpired with Joseph and his escape or exit strategy. There always is one, only some of us refuse to take it or are too weak

Philipsevercool:
This is with a condition that when you are tempted AMD not that you tempt yourself and expect the grace of God to help you out. You will first fall and hope God's mercy will find you to help you out

Temptation is everywhere you go and look, but so is God.

The secret of using temptation, is turning it, to your advantage, not giving in to it and remaining unbeatable by it. I reiterate, the worst kind of temptation are the ones we give in to, without getting anything substantial back in return, except for the shocking stark reality of the discovery of our frailty.

Image123:
Done as requested. The way out was shown very clearly, abstain.

It is easier to abstain, easier to avoid temptation than resist it. It is a good thing to control the access gates to your spirit beingness but have you considered that life isn't about avoiding getting bruises, but collecting the scars to prove you showed up for it, hmm?

Shepherd00:
Oh yeah? You had better watched it so that your head won't fall.of your shoulders.

When you get to hell you won't me to tell you how bad, very bad, dark dead and ugly soul you have been and how hot the flames will be for you, like the rich man, you shall cry and say, 'Pls tell my fellow gay boys that the fire is too hot'.

I. for falsifying God's Word.
2. For your sins which includes homosexuality.

Be gone now.

I know intelligence and comprehension aren't exactly your forte, so let me spell it out for you. You're bad because your heart and soul are dirty, ugly and dark

If you have a real man's pair of balls, and if you wouldnt dodge or hide from answering these questions
1/ Show the word of God I fasified
2/ Also, kindly in a way that a two year old can understand, and this is particularly, if at all, you really do know, tell and explain to us, what specifically is the sin, in homosexuality and what specifically about homosexuality is an abomination to God and say the cause why the bible states that, thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind is abomination.

Shepherd00:
Oga Muttley, abeg take your homosexuality somewhere else anh, abeg. The thought of you having sex with another man is makes me literally sick.

You need help fast, you not only have homophobia disorder you also have a voyeuristic disorder, and these, on top of being a closet homosexual

Whats with the fake sickness, huh? Tell, what specifically and why are you having this fake sickness at the thought of two men having sex of each other, hmm?

Shepherd00:
Woe betide me if I will stand to fight a gay man. Turn your heat on your sex partner not me. I'm not made for my fellows

Look at the scaredy cat arsehole jerk, wetting his pants in fright already

Shepherd00:
Abeg take your Gay as.s outahia before you shi.t in ma thread.

Intelligence is a very valuable thing, unfortunately, usually it comes far too late for some. No sense, no common sense, so sense wiseness is out of the question here. SMH.

Shepherd00:
In other Words Jehovah is stupid to create Adam with a rod and Eve with a hole abi?

There is quite a lot about and of God, you dont know my friend

Shepherd00:
Like I said, I was interested in you becos you said you were a Christian, and you had in the past tried to use the Word to support your stance. Wirhout that, Oga, e no concern me o. Carry go. no be for my yansh you go wear your pampers.

So women SSR take it in the arse too abi? Lookatew, you are pathetic. I am sorry for you. SMH.

Shepherd00:
The whole can become Gay for all I care.

And, yes, i Am without shame HOMOPHOBIC

You know deep down you are not my match, because I'll beat you flat down anytime and day. You cant stand the heat, as when I turn it up, it will be too hot for you to stay and remain.
There is no way the whole can become gay, so please stop rumour mongering with your daft furphies

Wear proud to be HOMOPHOBIC on your head like a shrimp, OK? Take it as gospel, that your word will remain a witness against you

Shepherd00:
And let me reiterate, keep saying you are not attracted to men, some how people here may begin to believe that you are indeed straight.

And I am not sure yet which one is going to kill you HIV or Pile.

This guy is bad, very bad, has a dark dead and ugly soul. O ma se oo. SMH

Shepherd00:
When you make a claim that God (Whose name is Jesus) is not to be Believed in, or Worshipped, that has nothing to do with your personal Life, it's general and I never attacked you for having that stance, I only asked how one can walk with a Spirit without believing in that Spirit.

Vut Muttleylaf being Gay and coming here to say it's okay for Christians to be, and go further to falsify Scriptures to back himself up, that I consider an evil which needs rooting out.

MuttleyLaff be Gay, Almost the whole world is gay now. But keep the Word of God out of it.

I don't give two hoots how many men you hump.

Reiterating, I think, I must be a limited edition and a rare breed, because I am a homosexual, who isnt sexually attracted to men

I also want to repeat that, I am not sure yet, which is more dangerous, your colossal ignorance or that your other dangerous thing, a little knowledge

Shepherd00:
Hmmm. You know you can never try that with me.
But if you deny that you are not in support of Homosexuality, I shall call you up soon enough.

So what if in support of homosexuality, in support as a homosexuality activist, huh?

Some one at least has to make the conscientious decision, to stand up, lend or be a voice for and speak out about the injustice and lack of fairness to the sexual minority, to two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other, lasting that's a lifetime life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that is not causing damage or harm to another person, not betraying of another person, or even, not cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour. Love, a good thing, that defines the relationship between the two consenting adults, in such a way that they love each other, that they enjoy each other’s company, they are mutually respectful to each other, mutually supportive to each other, and even sometimes without sex necessarily being the leading or most important thing for them. Mutual love, mutual respect, mutual honesty, mutual truthfulness, mutually supportive of each other etcetera

Shepherd00:
Oh Lawd Buda. I just made an inference. I didn't intend it to replace my Op.

I knew Muttley has been locking somewhere and pounced on me immediately i mentioned his proclivity.

Oga, enjoy o. Pls go away.

Your witch hunt sin found you out. Yeye dey smell, lookatew. Hin dey your bodi. There is a cure for your homophobia, but only when you are ready

Image123:
Hohohoho, the way out is clearly shown, abstain.

Read 1 Corinthians 10:13 carefully and let it vibrate and permeate through your body and soul because you will amazingly discover as it access to the gray matter that God is faithful. He will not allow the temptation to be more than you can stand, and when you are tempted, He will show you a way out so that you can endure and restrain yourself from doing or enjoying that tempting thing

budaatum:
Was it not you who brought it into your thread Shepherd, or have you forgotten already?

That's what they revert and resort to in order to get a leg up and one over you. It's like the yellow bellied, bringing a knife to a fisticuffs. He does that? Only a closet and/or unrevealed homosexual would, I guess

Shepherd00:
Am I supposed that you'd show up at this point that homosexuality is mentioned?

I am not sure yet, which is more dangerous, your colossal ignorance or that other dangerous thing, a little knowledge

Shepherd00:
Sir Muttleylaf, you a homosexual man who claims Christianity

I think, I must be a limited edition and a rare breed, because I am a homosexual who isnt sexually attracted to men.

Shepherd00:
I don't hate you as a person. in fact, I find you very interesting. The very first homosexual I know who claims to love Jesus.

Its not hard not to sympathise with you, please google up Mpho Andrea Tutu-van Furth.

Shepherd00:
You choose to be Gay, your choice, your Life. Don't ever think that I hate you, I only hate your proclivity that's all.

Intelligence is a very valuable thing, unfortunately, usually it comes far too late. There is sense and common sense but no sense wiseness there at all. SMH.

Shepherd00:
Are you seriously denying that you are not an advocate of Homosexuality in this forum?
You and Muttleylaf in this forum are men whom I know are activist for same sex. Just imagine this thread running to 4 pages, he didn't post one word until homosexuality was mentioned, yet he'd say he is not Gay. Why dey tin dey pain am so?

I wasn't really interested in your stance before now, because you were an atheist, and as an atheist, you could promote bestiality and pedophilia and will be excused (because they are human-animals), but Muttleylaf claimed he is a Christian, so my interest was on Him. But, now, I don't care anymore. It is his Life to do as he pleases.

Your witch hunting sins found you out

Shepherd00:
Buda, I know you are firmly in support of Homosexuality, that is your choice. Even if you were a homosexual yourself',

I wonder why animal activists arent called animals based on their activism. Animals don't hate, and we're supposed to be better than them. Pfft. The more you interact or read comments here on the Religion forum, the more you begin to understand why and how during the flood, Noah managed to save more animals than humans.

budaatum:
Shepherd where did you read that "you are firmly in support of Homosexuality", "you were a homosexual yourself"?

You know I like proof so please post evidence or get behind me with your concerns Shepherd!

Quite frankly, that is a witch hunt, but hey, it is easier going for a vicious witch-hunt aimed at crushing the voice of dissent. That is the essence of a witch-hunt, that any questioning of the status quo, lending voice or standing up for the sexual minority, in itself to him Shepherd00 and the likes of, TV01, elated177, jesusjnr, Baddiezz, Agrogbeide etcetera, constitutes proof of complicity, so therefore you being a same sex relationship (i.e. SSR) activist, must be, has or have been a homosexual.

9jamustchange:
*We are not told the age of Cain and Abel when the murder occurred. They could have advanced to a considerable age before Cain killed Abel. The limit the Bible puts on the age of Cain and Abel is 130 years.

*Adam and Eve had many sons and daughters. We are not told specifically how many, but we are told that Adam lived 930 years. This raises the possibility of dozens of children from that couple alone. There were possibly as many as 32,000 people living at the time Cain killed Abel.

*Genesis 5 tells us that some of Adam's descendants also had long life spans. Likewise, the Bible says that they gave birth to many sons and daughters.

*There would not be an issue of incest-parents sexual relationships with their children. This would be a matter of siblings intermarrying-something that was not condemned in Scripture until the Law of Moses. Abraham is one biblical example of a person marrying his half-sister.

*The Law of Moses condemned intermarriage between brothers and sister to protect the health of the nation as well as the family unit.

*Because Adam and Eve were created perfect, their gene pool would not have been corrupted until after the Fall. Children of close relatives that married soon after the Fall would not be subject to the same degeneration that would occur in later generations.

I gbadun your entire post, pass dundun, your head dey there and you see road well well jor

Image123:
The "Lord's prayer": lead us not into temptation.
MuttleyLaff 's idea: we will look for temptation.

Eerrrrrrrrr, Eerrrrrrrrr, I'll stick to the Lord.

"The temptations in your life are no different from what others experience.
And God is faithful. He will not allow the temptation to be more than you can stand.
When you are tempted, He will show you a way out so that you can endure."
- 1 Corinthians 10:13

Nwanne Image123, God, doesnt not lead into temptation, what the Lord's prayer in Matthew 6:13 is saying, is, "do not let us fall into temptation". It's pretty easy to fall into temptation you know. Who no know this, no go know.

Embrace and stick to 1 Corinthians 10:13 above biko.

obxddon:
How did he know the content of Game of Thrones,.....Christianity is the worst religion on earth...its meant to teach people the truth and bring them to God but now its all about ego and money Making....On lighter note.....Let me see if Ahmadioha or Sango has any free thunder to fire that Fake pastor

The Constantine Christianity, is in the forefront, rubbing shoulders among with other worst religions.

Philipsevercool:
It is not the worst religion bro

When you read James 1:27, you will see what is considered to be true pure religion, which God approves of and finds no fault in

Philipsevercool:
When you get the real experience, you will understand the need to meddle with this GOT. I started watching it, then I these sex scenes, after watching, it was obvious that I got drained spiritually. I had to be pleasing with God to forgive, I got forgiven but I needed to start building again, then what I have watched was well recorded in my head and it plays back that it took me some years to really forget them. The devil is getting smarter than you by making you to play down the effect on your life. Repent and avoid this film. I avoid it like plague as I don't want anything to come between me and God. I pray always not to fall into temptation not that I will be praying to overcome the temptation I put on my way.

It is easier to avoid temptation than resist it. it is a good thing to control the access gates to your spirit beingness but have you considered that life isn't about avoiding getting bruises, but collecting the scars to prove you showed up for it, hmm?

UceeGod, Born Again has to do with a change of heart, just as I earlier said about David's "Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me" Psalm 51:10 prayer.

Natural birth will only open our natural senses, our eyesight, hearing, tasting,etcetera to natural things, but born again, the spiritual birth opens our spiritual senses, and gives the seeing eye, the hearing ear, the feeling sense the ability to testify, acknowledge, confirm admit and/or accept spiritual things, like the demonstration power of God and not to back hand rubbish it off, as nothing but hocus pocus and all that

The condition of the spiritual vision which can see this kingdom, is spiritual life, and this spiritual life is dependent on being born again.

UceeGod:
Yes regeneration has to happen before indwelling. Today, indwelling of the Spirit starts immediately after regeneration - the event in the upper room was a significant one for everyone present at that time and it doesn't often happen that way today.

Like I earlier said, not many are aware that born again precedes and/or preceded salvation and that fact is, in order to receive and get the gift of salvation, you'll first, have to be born again, be regenerated, as in, be born from above, as Born Again, is similar to that David Psalm 51:10 prayer about "renew a right spirit in me" because that is exactly what has happened, you've had a renewal of the spirit. It is born again and/or a reawakening of the dead spirit man by God from above. Without that, as in, if one isnt born again, then such one, will not see, and so therefore will rubbish, ridicule, make fun of, poke fun at, make jokes about, scoff at, be sarcastic about the kingdom of God and demonstrations of the power of God.

UceeGod:
What I'm saying is this: you having your hungry family on your mind while stealing doesn't make it right before God even if some people may want to justify the action by human reasoning.

What you are saying is twisted and off the mark. The Bible clearly and leaving no room for doubt, expressly say thou shall not steal, doesnt it, huh? You are drowning, and now clutching at any straw in sight. Pack this in, stop this and give it a rest jor.

UceeGod:
Being born of water and of the Spirit is the preparatory work for His indwelling.

You know this much yet you want to blindly argue, hmm?
What was Nicodemus' opening remark in John 3:2 to made Jesus reply back to him with that John 3:3, hmm?

UceeGod:
These two actions often happen at the same time though mostly not felt immediately. Of what use is His regeneration without His indwelling?

What are you arguing about now. Guys like you, just like arguing about things you dont really and fully know about sha. Without regeneration, there is no chance of the indwelling of the Spirit residing in you at the appointed time, like as started with those in the upper room.

Nicodemus, the disciples and others before the Upper Room encounter, already were Born Again but without the indwelling of the Spirit, this is because it couldnt be bestowed or imparted until Jesus left earth to go back to the Father

UceeGod:
No one, including Nicodemus could have been born-again then. The indwelling of the Spirit wasn't available.

"Jesus answered and said unto him,
Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God"
- John 3:3

We are talking of being Born Again aka born from on high as is confirmed by Jesus' statement in John 3:3 above, and you are talking of the indwelling of the Spirit, that happened further down the lane in the upper room. I dont think you've sat down to know the differences between the two

UceeGod:
What displeases God will always be evil no matter what or who you have on your mind. You can as well go on to steal a cup of rice while you have your family on your mind because your family is hungry and you're broke.

Why would you take someone's property without their expressed consent, hmm? Have you instead of stealing, asked the owner for the cup of rice first, huh?

advocate666:
the godly and their empty boasts. SMDH

Believe as empty boasts at your own peril

advocate666:
Ah. Sorry. I didn't know I was talking to a disciple.

Yeah, a disciple that gives you day and night mares. One that you dread can send you into a herd of swines