Christianity Etc › Re: Free Will: A Re-examination by MuttleyLaff: 1:23am On May 05, 2019 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: My Favorite Line From The Bible by MuttleyLaff: 1:00am On May 05, 2019*. Modified: 5:29pm On May 05, 2019 |
NnennaG6: Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego answered King Nebuchadnezzar, "Your threat means nothing to us. If you throw us in the fire, the God we serve can rescue us from your roaring furnace and anything else you might cook up, O king. But even if he doesn’t, it wouldn’t make a bit of difference, O king. We still wouldn’t serve your gods or worship the gold statue you set up."
In fact, this is the most badass thing I have read in my entire life.
I am way more scared of an empty wallet than these four men were scared of the burning furnace. I feel so fake and weak lol...
Anyone else feels that way too? " 10“Now, as you can see, the LORD has kept me alive and well as he promised for all these forty-five years since Moses made this promise—even while Israel wandered in the wilderness. Today I am eighty-five years old. 11I am as strong now as I was when Moses sent me on that journey, and I can still travel and fight as well as I could then. 12So give me the hill country that the LORD promised me. You will remember that as scouts we found the descendants of Anak living there in great, walled towns. But if the LORD is with me, I will drive them out of the land, just as the LORD said.”" - Joshua 14:10-12 There is this western part of the country colloquial, that says: " Ti ogun ẹni ba daniloju, a maa jẹnlẹngẹ fi gba ori" which loosely translated means: " When you have confidence in your juju charm, you can knack or smack it on your head, safely and gently without having any problem" From the moment we are born, our mortality clock starts to tick down, this gets me concerned, hoping I havent squandered my potential, that I ought to be like a dragon where, for every head cut off, two more heads grow back. Joshua 14:10-12 is another badass kicking intimidating scripture. Imagine, how many 85 years old today, do you know that can take on and whup a 45 year old? |
Romance › Re: Is It Normal To Not Want A Partner? by MuttleyLaff: 12:24am On May 05, 2019 |
NnennaG6: I've been trying to find an answer to this question but most of the stuff I found is more statistical rather than providing answers as in the studies of more people not getting married and such.
I've only been in a couple of relationships and now that I'm close to thirty I'm not at all interested in meeting someone for a long term or short term relationship. I have an average life with friends, family, my hobbies and work so a lot of people ask "what about dating" or "go try dating apps". I've done online dating and speed dating but nothing clicks even if I do end up on a date or two with someone. Its just one of those things that never seem to cross my mind on an average day. Sometimes it feels like if I don't try and find someone I'm left out or people say that you'll find someone because its an important part of being an adult. I know all that but there is something about dating and finding romance that feeling like a horrible mistake or the person feels more like an intruder rather than someone who I want in my life. I don't really want romantic dinners or holding hands in public. If anything I'd rather my partner treat me like a best friend. I don't even know if I want to be a wife. I mean I'm already looking into buying a house in the next couple of years and a year ago my coworker said to me "What about the husband and kids, you should wait until that happens first." None of that crossed my mind and its still not a concern. Even my mom said she felt sorry for me for feeling this way and that kind of hurt as it made me feel abnormal.
So I want to know, is this a normal thing. Is it normal that some people just not want to date and want to be independent or at least not want a husband or wife? I know that asexuality exists but I'm not sure if I fall into that category. I'm also not sure if this is the right place to ask but I figured maybe people here know what I'm asking about or know people who are similar. You might be going through a phase of being alone but not being lonely. Though God knows sexuality is important for all living beings for procreation and bonding purposes, like link with someone else based on shared feelings, interests and/or experiences, Jesus was alone but wasnt lonely. So it can be a normal thing, to be single and not want a partner, so as to be tunnel visioned to one's purpose. On the other hand, the Bible, is known to say: " It is not good that the man (i.e. mankind or human beings) should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him" Having said all that, it must be stated that, the ability to be single, by choice and/or free will, is a gift |
Christianity Etc › Re: Without righteouness and purity you cannot enter heaven. by MuttleyLaff: 10:20pm On May 04, 2019*. Modified: 11:55pm On May 27, 2019 |
elated177: In any case, the root of all this is one demonic bondage or the other. It is as a result of the demonic covenant that exists in that family or lineage. They are transmitting exactly what their own parents taught. Their children will in turn pass it on to their own children and so the evil circle continues. They are actually honoring Baal or Molek or Satan. Lev 18:21 & 20:1-5; Deut 12:31 & 18:10; 2 Kings 17:17; Jer 7:31 & 32:35.
Some adults, who are agents of the kingdom of wickedness, are being used by their master, the devil, to plant this detestable seed in the lives of the very young ones, which - unfortunately - grow up to like the evil act. YHVH's wrath will continue to fall on such accursed brood.
Homosexuality and demon worship are inseparable. God does not have a problem with two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other, lasting that's a lifetime life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that is not causing damage or harm to another person, not betraying of another person, or even, not cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour, who love each other, enjoy each other’s company, are mutually respectful to each other, mutually supportive to each other, and all that and more, even sometimes without sex necessarily being the leading or most important thing for them. Sexuality is important for all living beings for procreation and just as for bonding purposes too. You certainly have a disorder called homophobia elated177. Thank God, it's sometimes curable, but only if you want to be cured of it cc jesusjnr, Agrogbeide, Alexandro15, Baddiezz |
Christianity Etc › Re: No iota of doubt: homosexuality is Satan's greatest joy. by MuttleyLaff: 10:10pm On May 04, 2019*. Modified: 10:26pm On May 04, 2019 |
elated177: Homosexuality is not only unclean, unhealthy and unnatural, it is a sure gate to the demonic. The defilement brought about by homosexuality is inestimable. When a person crosses that natural threshold and engages in homosexuality and wilfully continues to do so, demons will have free access to such a person's body. But, then, those who engage it already knew this. Homosexuality defiles the body and demons love defiled environment. It is as simple as it sounds.
Homosexuality is wickedness in the sight of YHVH. Abstain from it. What I don't understand is how a person, like this elated177, can tell you so many lies and never fell bad about it. I am hoping one day, you get a chance to read and find out what Leviticus 18:22 and/or Leviticus 20:13 is really about. Do demons have free access to Leo Varadkar's body, huh elated177? cc jesusjnr, Agrogbeide, Alexandro15, Baddiezz |
Christianity Etc › Re: No iota of doubt: homosexuality is Satan's greatest joy. by MuttleyLaff: 9:18pm On May 04, 2019 |
elated177: Judges 19:22 While they enjoying themselves, some of the wicked men of the city surrounded the house. Pounding on the door, they shouted to the old man who owned the house, 'Bring out the man who came to your house so we can have sex with them.
Wicked men committing wicked, abominable act. This is a wicked and abominable act indeed because these men weren't interested in a committed homosexual relationships, but in a most disturbing way, were planning to gang rape the travelling staying over night guest man and have sex with against his will. This is a wicked, cruel and evil thing to plan and think up to do towards a fellow human being neighbour elated177: James 1:21 Therefore, get rid of all moral filth and the evil that is so prevalent, and humbly accept the word planted in you, which can save you.
One evil that is so prevalent today, especially among the young ones, is homosexuality. When a person engages in homosexuality, all the cells, tissues and organs in such person's body react angrily in opposition to this perversion. They do so because they are being made to experience something for which they weren't designed. https://strangenotions.com/wp-content/uploads/SSM-flowchart-600x519.jpgTelling lies, misinterpreting the bible and wanting to hurt same sex relationship people in any way possible is the delight of this elated177, who reads the Bible without background information and/or cultural context. It is his nature to avoid hard work of any kind wherever possible. Being in an adult committed consensual sexual same sex relationship activity is not a sin elated177, so please stop your predijuce towards the sexual minority minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other, lasting that's a lifetime life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that is not causing damage or harm to another person, not betraying of another person, or even, not cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour |
Romance › Re: Is This Lesbianism? by MuttleyLaff: 4:21pm On May 04, 2019*. Modified: 1:57am On May 05, 2019 |
Baddiezz: I don't judge This is interesting how and why you dont put no judgment on sexuality. Do you know that judging a person doesnt define who they are but it defines who you are, same way it does with elated177 There is a time and persons to judge though, people like elated177, Jesus would have wasted no time in hastily not judging them, He would have judged them for being hypocrites who should have known better than be predijuced and discriminative Baddiezz: I'm indifferent tbh Baddiezz, this is hypothetically speaking, if it is your mom, dad, brother(s), sister(s), uncle(s), aunt(s), nephew(s), niece(s), cousin(s) kid(s) or grandkid(s) that is part of a two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other, lasting that's a lifetime life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that is not causing damage or harm to another person, not betraying of another person, or even, not cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour, who love each other, enjoy each other’s company, are mutually respectful to each other, mutually supportive to each other, and all that and more, sometimes without sex necessarily being the leading or most important thing for them, would you still be indifferent huh? Baddiezz: just wanted to see what you both have to say Like I earlier typed, unfortunately Matt Slick the author of that post isnt on Nairaland to defend and give answers to posed questions concerning what he typed in that material. As it is, I repeat, there are too many presuppositions in the write-up. It will fall apart, like a cheap China made fabric when the threads are pulled at the seams. Also it has too many holes in the write up, to say, its competing with a Swiss cheese is an understatement. Baddiezz: by the way you completely ignored to bring me up I am not following, how do you mean " by the way you completely ignored to bring me up" |
Christianity Etc › Re: Without righteouness and purity you cannot enter heaven. by MuttleyLaff: 10:17am On May 04, 2019 |
elated177: I believe homosexuality is the major reason YHVH will destroy this world. Acceptance of homosexuality and homosexual marriage will herald the reign of the lawless one. For a time is coming when the whole world will accept this perversion and only very few people will resist it because of their trust in Yahushua the Messiah and they will be severely persecuted. The Scripture directly below alludes to this.
Isaiah 24:5-6 The earth is defiled by its people; they have disobeyed the laws, violated the statutes and broken the everlasting covenant. Therefore a curse consumes the earth; its people must bear their guilt. Therefore earth's inhabitants are burned up, and very few are left. Israel was repeatedly dealt a crushing blow because of infidelity, betrayal of trust, being promiscuous and unfaithfulness. It is no different to the world, these are part of why judgement will be visited on it. LGBT or heterosexual or not, the world will be judged on these. |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Confused. by MuttleyLaff: 9:17am On May 04, 2019 |
stefanbanach: Thank you for this. What you seek, seeks you. Feel free to ask me any question, I'll endeavour to give you a honest, truthful and factual answer |
Romance › Re: Is This Lesbianism? by MuttleyLaff: 8:19am On May 04, 2019*. Modified: 9:13am On May 04, 2019 |
Preciousgirl: We had a holiday hangout and all employeee were there to party. Many of us were tipsy. Strangely , I found myself kissing a fellow woman. We were both embarrassed the next day. Are we lesbians? How should I react to this? You probably both acting under the influence of having had one too many to drink Except you're sexually attracted to the female sex or find the them sexually attracted to, you being female, then you might not be a lesbian Baddiezz: cc: MuttleyLaff, jesusjnr Thank for bringing this to our attention from ABCthings, unfortunately Matt Slick the author of that post isnt on Nairaland to defend and give answers to posed questions concerning what he typed in that material. I am sure, you can attest that there are too many presuppositions in the write-up. It will fall apart, like a cheap China made fabric when the threads are pulled at the seams. Also it has too many holes in the write up, to say, its competing with a Swiss cheese is an understatement. Baddiezz, posters like ABCthings, jesusjnr elated177 and others dont know their onions and so cant stand the heat. Simple battery of questions quickly distinguishes the boys from the men, the boys just develop tongue ties and go hide under a cloak of silence. These guys dont know the Bible and dont do proper Bible study. Baddiezz have you got issues with two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other, lasting that's a lifetime life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that is not causing damage or harm to another person, not betraying of another person, or even, not cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour, who love each other, enjoy each other’s company, are mutually respectful to each other, mutually supportive to each other, and all that and more, sometimes without sex necessarily being the leading or most important thing for them huh? cc Agrogbeide, Alexandro15 |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Confused. by MuttleyLaff: 3:25am On May 04, 2019*. Modified: 10:22pm On Nov 28, 2019 |
stefanbanach: People here are not understanding me. Maybe because I left out a part of my story. As at January 2018, Atheism stopped making sense to me. I stopped questioning God's existence and tried to find God. I went back to studying the Bible, studied the quran etc. I tried connecting the dots, I came to a conclusion though Christianity have a terrible history, the fact remains that the Bible contains certain truths, although altered. I believe that Christ is just an embodiment of the ideal man. Christ is what we should aspire to be like I came to a conclusion that the Bible and it's contents are allegorical. You are confused, because confusion, is a word we use on ourselves especially when about something or someone that is not understood. Your mind will answer most questions, if you learn to chill, relax and wait for the answers. The answers you seek, never come, when the mind is busy and/or in a state of great disturbance, confusion or uncertainty, they come when the mind is quiet, still and listening. There are years that ask questions and years that answers stefanbanach: Still I decided to follow the laws of God (the 10 commandments) and do good to my fellow man at all times. This is what the biblical Christ instructed us to do. This is what I do. This is the kind of Christianity I practice. I'm not an atheist. Not anymore. The biblical Christ instructed us to do what He command us to do, which is why, in John 15:14, He said: " You are my friends if you do what I command" stefanbanach: Now, I believe Christians practice Christianity wrongly. I believe we can have a perfect world if we practice Christianity the right way " 25Your princes are like roaring lions who tear their prey into pieces. They eat people and take their treasures and precious belongings. They turn many women into widows. 26Your priests violate my teachings and dishonor my holy things. They don't distinguish between what is holy and what is unholy. They don't teach the difference between what is clean and what is unclean. They ignore the days to worship me. So I am dishonored among the people. 27Your leaders are like wolves that tear their prey into pieces. They murder and destroy people to make excessive profits. 28Your prophets cover up these things by seeing false visions and by prophesying lies. They say, "This is what the Almighty LORD says." Yet, the LORD hasn't spoken. 29The common people oppress and rob others. They do wrong to humble people and to poor people. They oppress foreigners for no reason." - Ezekiel 22:25-29 The system of Christianity is above clearly mentioned, in Ezekiel 22:25-29, and besides that, you are putting the cart before the horse, as the perfect world is in the future to come, when the time is ripe. stefanbanach: 99% of the Christians, pastors who have prayed for me, didn't change anything. My health remained the same after the prayers. At least there is the 1% who did pray for you, got result(s) and good success for you stefanbanach: But this woman has prayed twice, and my health improved. I want to know what she does differently so that I can, WE CAN, do what she does, and have our prayers answered just like hers. I asked her the first time, how did she me better with her prayers. her reply was "JUST TRUST GOD AND HAVE FAITH". The reply wasn't satisfactory. What she did for you in getting you better with her prayers is God given hence why she is humble about it and not self conceited. Conceit is self given, be careful about it. An aspect of faith, simply is your response to the message of God's word, love and grace. stefanbanach: The purpose of this thread is, what do you think this woman does, that the average Christian doesn't do? What she does are too many to mention stefanbanach: PS: SHE'S A RETIRED/EX-PROSTITUTE.... I am not surprised because God uses rescued people to rescue people. God uses rescued broken people like her, you and I, to rescue and help broken other people like you and I stefanbanach: Thank you for understanding my point. I was hoping someone would go deeper and give me an indepth explanation of what she said "Trust God and have faith" OR someone whose prayers gets answers, come here and share what he/she does differently. The indepth explanation is that firm belief in the reliability, truth, omniscient, omnipotence and ability of God and having faith, as a currency, ready to spend with, in the kingdom of God scheme of things are indispensable for living life fully |
Christianity Etc › Re: Without Jesus, You Shall Die In Your Sins. by MuttleyLaff: 3:14am On May 04, 2019 |
advocate666: I really hope to die in my sins. Jesus wept at this comment |
Christianity Etc › Re: Without righteouness and purity you cannot enter heaven. by MuttleyLaff: 2:38am On May 04, 2019 |
elated177: Gen 19:5 They called to Lot, 'Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.
I know the twisters of the Scriptures would wish this portion of the Scriptures was not translated exactly this way. Just for a second, think about it elated177. Do you really think the men of Sodom and Gomorrah would have had their way with the men they were after to gang rape, huh? Even if the "men" surrendered themselves to the gang, it would have been mission impossible because angels arent equipped to procreate and neither are they equipped to engage in sexual intimacy Also the important fact is, Sodom and Gomorrah was already in Genesis 18:17 pencilled down for destruction, long before the gang's Gen 19:5 wicked intention of wanting to have sex with these other "men" against their will Take the Bible and Bible study seriously, you wouldnt do. Do Bible home work, na wahala. |
Christianity Etc › Re: No iota of doubt: homosexuality is Satan's greatest joy. by MuttleyLaff: 2:18am On May 04, 2019 |
elated177: Leviticus 18:22 Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable. I have told you before and warned you that regarding Leviticus 18:22, content is king, but context is king-maker elated177. I am not surprised you still havent understood that comment. All because you couldnt be bothered to read, study, research nor do your own home work. You dont take the Bible and Bible study seriously enough, this is why you dont know what Leviticus 18:22 and/or Leviticus 20:13 is really about. cc jesusjnr, Agrogbeide, Alexandro15 |
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Confused. by MuttleyLaff: 12:28pm On May 03, 2019 |
stefanbanach: I'll make it short. I first left Christianity in 2011. It didn't make sense to me. I became an atheist and took a deep dive into the world of philosophy. Last year, I was diagnosed with a life threatening disease. I have spent money trying to get my health back but no way. I have severally gotten to the point where humans cross to the other side but for some unknown reason, I'm still alive.
January this year, the sickness worsened. It paralysed me and made me useless. I struggled to get good healthcare because I couldn't work for money due to my bad health. I resigned and decided to be patient for death. I called a few foes, made peace and prepared myself for death by reading books on nihilism and absurdism, fantasising about the blissful state of non-existence.
One day, a concerned neighbour came to my apartment, she is very much aware of my irreligious nature. She asked to pray for me. Me I no send am because I don follow people pray tire. I told her I was not interested. She told me that I only need to close my eyes and say amen. I reluctantly agreed. She laid hands on me and prayed. After she prayed, I felt different. I started breathing properly, My palms and underneath my feet which were always white as snow became red due to the inflow of blood (there's poor circulation of blood in my body). I was shocked. I couldn't believe it. I spent my whole night questioning the rationale behind the incident. I was able to walk and do my morning exercise the following day and afterwards. The lady told me to go back to God. I decided to give it a try. I went to her church just once and stopped.
Months later, The problem returned. I hadn't gotten a job and I needed money to get medications. I became depressed. My sickness worsened due to anxiety. As usual, I prepared for death.
This night she came again and prayed. Now I feel better.
The point of this writeup is, I'm running mad here. What is happening? I've read tons of books on organised religion and I detest religion. But I recognise the need for man to seek spirituality.
What is going on with me? What is special about that lady? Can anybody give me a concrete explanation for this? Does this woman have the special gift of healing? I'm not a fan of the mysterious. The first thing you need to do is to reorient yourself about detesting religion because religion, that is the pure, true one that God finds no fault with, is absolutely necessary to do and be part of. Of course, the need for man to seek spirituality is there because man fundamentally, is a spirit being. Yeah, it is possible, the woman has the special gift of healing. It is also possible, she likely has been watching you and then got persuaded to reach out to you. Each and everyone of us, certainly will perform our function and carry out on earth God's purpose, however you act, but it makes a difference to you whether you'll act like the pharaoh who knew Joseph, or act like the Pharaoh of Moses' time, who knew not Joseph. It is fake and lazy science to advance the thought that human beings have 99% similarity in DNA with Chimpanzees |
Christianity Etc › Re: I Want Your Opinions by MuttleyLaff: 7:56am On May 03, 2019*. Modified: 8:30am On May 03, 2019 |
NnennaG6: To preface, this is just a theory based on my own musings & partly my understanding of parts of the Bible: I'm still thinking this through, but feel like I've really come across something that just makes sense. Not in a casual way, but in a way that aligns itself with the nature of reality, which proves itself as "true" (practically at least) when implemented in real life/spiritual development. I can't help but think that this is, in part, not an accident, but rather speaks to the nature of our existence, and how that relates to God. I think there may be such a focus on interpreting the bible literally, and stopping there, that much is missed in terms of the deeper meaning and Truth.
Whether that deeper understanding is necessary (or even accurate) remains to be seen, but it's something I've been exploring, and would like to hear other perspectives on.
I've come to believe that "God" is the universal consciousness that we all came from. "Original sin" is the birth of the ego (and consequently pride, which is the root of literally all "sins" . God's "love" is an emotionless love; a desire for closeness, for oneness, an unconditional acceptance. The goal being reunification with the universal consciousness. The path to this "redemption" is two fold: 1. To repent your "sins", meaning, to acknowledge your ego as the root of suffering and evil, and that apart from "God" you are weak and purposeless. By acknowledging that your ego is wrong ("evil" even), you will see clearly/take to heart that your "will" (opinion, judgement, selfish desire) is not conducive to a peaceful existence, and can never fulfill you. By acknowledging this sin and repenting it, God forgives you. 2. When you know this, you are able to let go of your ego. This is where "prayer" comes in, but it's more like eastern meditation than stereotypical prayer. "Be still and know God", "Pray and never cease" -- this doesn't mean to talk to God endlessly and aimlessly. What it really means is to empty your mind, observe yourself and your thoughts without opinion or judgement, as a way of acknowledging your will is in the way (it is after all this "sin" that sets you apart from God). By emptying yourself of thoughts and will, you open yourself to "receive God's grace".
This means to have God's will as your own, to know God's discernment (which is also to say, you can view reality (more) objectively when it isn't tainted with your own goals/emotions/ judgements), and to know God's love (oneness/acceptance). By making peace with God, you will have the peace of God. And that, is heaven. Perhaps it's only a state of being while on earth, perhaps it's how we rejoin the universal consciousness that is God after shedding our physical bodies, or whatever.
Hell on the other hand, is that state of being apart from God. And those in hell often don't want to leave it, because it is self serving and pleasurable, but also filled with the suffering and pain of hardship and isolation. That is seen on earth as well. But when you die, I imagine you lose all connection to God. On earth it is like we are in the shade cast by God's "light", but from the peripheral light we can still see. If you die apart from God, you lose even that, and will be in true darkness/isolation, which is Hell.
The pain and suffering of isolation, the burning self hatred knowing you did it to yourself but the anger of being abandoned by God, never to see light again, is Hell. Hell is not a place of torture, punishment, justice or judgement. It is simply "where" you go when you have no connection with God, which is innately akin to torture, but is not dealt out by any entity. It just is, and God wants to save us, but he can't make the choice for us to desire oneness again.
I think this is fully congruent with Christianity, and I do consider myself a Christian. So if you dislike my use of language or description, please let me know why you disagree before you label me a heretic Maybe I can clarify, but either way I would love to hear some opposing views or some further thoughts to my own.
Cheers. This is one of the most factual posts I've ever lately read on the Religion forum. Every point made is spot on. You hit each nail on the head. The problem however, here is, too many people, don't know the difference between a fact and an opinion. Opinions don't affect facts, but facts would change and affect opinions. "Truths" and opinions change, but facts don't because they're understood clearly and based on reality |
Christianity Etc › Re: No iota of doubt: homosexuality is Satan's greatest joy. by MuttleyLaff: 3:10pm On May 02, 2019*. Modified: 4:18pm On May 03, 2019 |
elated177: Here is an excerpt from the message of this thread:
Some years ago, one homosexual accused Yahushua the Messiah of being a homosexual. His words: "If what I am doing is wrong, then Jesus is the ultimate gay because he hung out with twelve guys." May he find forgiveness. Some even claim that the relationship between King David and Jonathan, son of King Saul, was a homosexual one. May they find forgiveness. These are some of the ways homosexuals twist the Set-apart Scriptures of the Father in heaven.
It is clear that the homosexuality agenda did not start today. I feel only pity for you, wicked agents of Satan, the wrath of YHVH of Hosts will take care of you. You all know what you are doing. Since we are now doing excerpt elated177, here is an excerpt from an overheard conversation: Person asked same sex friend, if has ever kiss a person of same sex as they are. Was told had kissed another person of same sex. When I asked why, the reply was, I was on a bus and this person was being abused and bullied for being gay, so I got up, walked over to the person and in front of everybody on the bus, gave the person a kiss on the lips Satan must be very pleased having you capably representing him here. You elated177 made a bungling statement but when after, I showed you 2 Samuel 1:26, in response to it, you now are left having cold sweats. elated177: It is obvious that the next step for you would have been to accuse king David and Jonathan of homosexuality, if the Father in heaven had not used me to explain that portion of the Scriptures. Unlike someone like you that I've come to know, except I have incontrovertible facts and/or evidence I wouldnt accuse David and Jonathan of homosexuality. elated177: I am done with you. The path of righteousness which I am traversing and the path of wickedness which you are on, are two parallel lines that will neither meet nor agree. I have been wondering when you will get round to spin this " I am done with you" line. You never had gas in the tank, so you having mileage to go the distance understandbly is out of the question for you. The first mile(s) is always a liar. Don't ever trust it. You wouldnt know this because this is something only a runner, unlike you, would understand The biggest coward is a person who gets scared and quits. A good man or woman will be honest no matter how painful the truth is. A coward, runs stiff scared, hides behind lies and deceit of Leviticus 18:22 and/or Leviticus 20:13 and all. elated177: You know that the act you're practising is evil and you still deliberately twist the Scriptures to support it. Why can't you go ahead and revel in your perversion and leave the Scriptures of my Father in heaven alone. You are trying to force the Scriptures to say what they have not said. There is no remedy for that kind of wickedness. YHVH Almighty knows those who are operating in ignorance. He will not acquit the guilty or condemn the innocent. Take the Bible and Bible study seriously, you wouldnt do. This is why you dont know what Leviticus 18:22 and/or Leviticus 20:13 is really about. elated177: I won't be responding to your twisted comments anymore. I am done with you This is deja-poo. I don dey begin wonder say, when las las, you go post an exit strategy comment like this huh. I agree that you really need to shut up and shut up for good because you are not as intelligent as you like to make out and for the reason that you allow the devil to use your mind as a garbage dump. You know you dont match up to me and that I will floor you any day any time, mop and clean you up with floor. You know I'll open your arse wide open and get you exposed, thats why you have to run and go hide. You have to back down because you have learned your limits elated177: For the umpteenth time, steer clear of the Scriptures of YHVH of Hosts and stop twisting them to support the abominable and detestable act called homosexuality. If you refuse, muttleylaff, the fiery furnace above your head and the ground beneath your feet will be unbearable. The rain, the wind, the sun, the stars and the moon will be a terror to you. The roar of thunder in the sky on a very hot afternoon will make you wet yourself. When night comes, you will wish for day and when day comes, you will wish for night. Then, the sword of judgment of YHVH of Hosts will terrorize you everywhere you turn till you cry out in brokenness and ask for forgiveness. Then you will know that the words of YHVH Almighty are not idle words.
You, muttleylaff, have lit your own fires and provided yourself with flaming torches, go, walk in the light of your fires and the torches you have set ablaze. You shall lie down in torment. You have a lot to know and learn my friend. It takes a lot to learn to know the truth of the matter of small things in Leviticus 18:22 and/or Leviticus 20:13 cc jesusjnr, Agrogbeide, Alexandro15 |
Christianity Etc › Re: No iota of doubt: homosexuality is Satan's greatest joy. by MuttleyLaff: 7:18am On May 02, 2019*. Modified: 7:44am On May 02, 2019 |
elated177: You should have clearly stated where I directly or indirectly said that Enoch actually wrote the book of Enoch. You should have stated where I even implied that I wanted the book of Enoch to be true.
Inconsistent lying agent of Satan. Talk about accusing someone of argumentum ad hominem! The very same thing he is clearly guilty of. " Where did Peter and Jude denounce Enoch or the book of Enoch?" - by elated177: 1:33pm On Apr 18 2019 " Also to your understanding and belief, who is the author of the book of Enoch?" - by MuttleyLaff: 4:08pm On Apr 18 2019 " I have only read a few chapters of the book of Enoch - the book of Enoch 1. I will keep my views about the author for now. However, the fact that Jude made reference to it might give some credence to its authenticity." - by elated177: 8:29pm On Apr 18 2019 You jumped on trying to scratch an itch that isn't there, then you went on doing argumentum ad hominem and skirting around the truth, this also, right across threads since day one, it apparently, is your modus operadi. You don't know a bunch of pork sausage from a bunch of bananas. Please by all means comment, but try learning to ride before jumping on a high horse because if not, each truthful post of mine, will mess up a guilty conscious like yours every time. cc jesusjnr, Agrogbeide, Alexandro15 |
Christianity Etc › Re: No iota of doubt: homosexuality is Satan's greatest joy. by MuttleyLaff: 7:18am On May 02, 2019*. Modified: 2:20am On May 04, 2019 |
elated177: Words of a chronic dyed in the wool agent of Satan directly from the pit woefully. Your master, Satan the devil, lost the battle over two thousand years ago. Satan, your father, twisted the Scriptures on the mountain when he tempted Yahushua the Messiah and failed woefully. That defeat the first Adam suffered in the garden of Eden to the serpentine ways of Satan, has been overturned by the victory Yahushua the Messiah established on the stake.
You, muttleylaff, and your fellow homosexuality activists will continue to fail woefully as you continue to twist the Scriptures to in an attempt to support the abomination. Like I have stated earlier, you will never use the fall of any of the saints of YHVH of Hosts to get to that next promotion. Instead you will fall from the height you have attained by misleading seekers of truth.
Muttleylaff, it will be better for you to have a large millstone tied to your neck and be tossed into the sea than to derail the righteous walk of any of the least of the saints of YHVH of Hosts on this forum.
I will always remember you as a very wicked homosexuality activist, who twists the set-apart Scriptures of the Creator of the ends of the earth I'm futile attempts to promote his father's homosexuality agenda. If at all I remember you, muttleylaff, it will that you are one dangerous snare placed on the path of those who seek the truth.
It is already obvious that frustration and desperation have taken perpetual residence in your satanically twisted and hammered mind. Go on, scram and go cry to your father, the lying devil, tell him you failed woefully and will continue to fail woefully.
Throw your cheap and useless attempt at emotional blackmail into the gutter. frank317: OMG!!!! Wtf is this?
What has homosexuality got to do with the discussion at hand. Guy u are sick and u need help Apparently this is your modus operandi, refusing to answer question asked but resorting to introducing some unrelated, unconnected and totally different subject like homosexuality to what is being talked. The immediate above quote was aimed at you by frank317 at 2:48pm On Dec 24, 2018 It is true when I said, you avoid answering questions because you know you will be pinned down and get being exposed. It is as simple as that. You are nothing than a paper tiger, huffing and puffing. I have and easily eat people like you with breakfast It is true you believe that The Book Of Enoch was written by Enoch, the one who was seven generations from Adam? You want the Book of Enoch to be true so bad but its not and you cant get over that, so refuse to answer the question and resort to introducing some unrelated, unconnected and totally different homosexuality subject . It is because of these and that, you are is careless with the truth in small matters like that in Leviticus 18:22 and/or Leviticus 20:13 that I have made it my business, to frog march escort you back to the under the rock dark abyss pit of hell you crawled under from. You are defeated warrior, because you couldnt be bothered to read, study, research nor do your own home work. Intelligence and honesty requires a deep study of a topic and/or subject before commenting on it, but you are so adroit at ignoring the context of Leviticus 18:22 and/or Leviticus 20:13 and insisting on giving too much rein to your ignorance. I am sorry, if you goofed this way on this, then you cant be trusted with any other important matter Your words are worthless, especially when you're trying to scratch an itch that isn't there. Sometimes, it seems that the louder someone paints an air of sainthood, the bigger the horns they are hiding. Just be patient, I'll soon send you back to that homesick hot fiery place you yearn to take abode in cc jesusjnr, Agrogbeide, Alexandro15 |
Christianity Etc › Re: Nigerian Lady, Okemzuruoke Drags God On Twitter Over Some Bible Pages by MuttleyLaff: 4:41pm On May 01, 2019 |
Agrogbeide: alBHAGDADI this is part of your comment that lacks all traces of sense thereby making all that you have said senseless. Agrogbeide: alBHAGDADI this is part of your comment that lacks all traces of sense thereby making all that you have said senseless. Nwanne, I can see that somehow your head remain and still dey there alBHAGDADI: You still failed to point out what's senseless in about it.
Another wasted post. Everything thing in your post, is senseless and it should be a wasted post not the Agrogbeide post |
Christianity Etc › Re: No iota of doubt: homosexuality is Satan's greatest joy. by MuttleyLaff: 4:35pm On May 01, 2019*. Modified: 2:35pm On May 06, 2019 |
elated177: Muttleylaff, read your comment below:
"elated177, reiterating, if you want to talk about the "good in homosexuality", well there is a lot of good in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other, lasting that's a lifetime life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that is not causing damage or harm to another person, not betraying of another person, or even, not cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour
elated177, like I earlier put to you, have you ever considered the thought of, love, a good thing, that defines the relationship between the two consenting adults, in such a way that they love each other, that they enjoy each other’s company, they are mutually respectful to each other, mutually supportive to each other, and sometimes without sex necessarily being the leading or most important thing for them, huh?. It’s those kind of things, like mutual love, mutual respect, mutual honesty, mutual truthfulness, mutually supportive of each other etcetera, that really matter, the most in the relationship, and as like in any other relationship, whether heterosexual and homosexual, this is a good thing elated177, or dont you agree or think so, huh?"
Is the kind of "love" you described above, the same with the pure, agape love that existed between king David and Jonathan?
You are so puerile in conversation. Who has resorted to diatribe? Me or you? Pathetic! Can you clearly highlight the straws that I clutched at in my message you quoted above.
Again, how does 1 Sam 1:26 correlate with the lust, perversion and demonic bond that exist in the relationship between two people of the same sex?
YHVH Almighty will continue to expose you and your fellow gay activist who are twisting his Scriptures to promote your satanic agenda.
Be careful! Steer clear of the Scriptures of the Mighty One of Jacob when embarking on your homosexuality activism. You can practise your homosexuality and revel in it. elated177: That is a misplaced love, if it can be called love at all. No one should love another person of the same sex that way, unless where the mind has been tampered with.. That kind of love should exist between man and his wife. The above immediate quote of yours is what I responded that Sam 1:26 verse with. Now tell, when are you going to stop deceiving or misleading others huh elated177? You already are deceiving and misleading others concerning what Leviticus 18:22 and/or Leviticus 20:13 is really about. Now you have turned to deceiving and misleading others to what I responded to with that 1 Sam 1:26 verse, and you are that desperate and frustrated, you have to resort to ad hominem attacks and clutching at straws on top. Some people are victims of dogma, and later come to the knowledge and find the truth. Someday, everything will make perfect sense to you and when you do find out the honest truth about this and all, you will never forget me, as the person who came to you with a torch when you were in the dark and pretending to know everything cc jesusjnr, Agrogbeide, Alexandro15 |
Christianity Etc › Re: No iota of doubt: homosexuality is Satan's greatest joy. by MuttleyLaff: 12:50pm On May 01, 2019 |
elated177: Is there any length you gay activists won't go in futile attempts to justify same sex relationship scripturally?
Is it not obvious that king David used that expression to describe effectively how strong Jonathan's love for him was?
A woman's love for her true husband is very strong and a man's love for his true wife is also very strong. That is why the male servants of the Messiah are admonished to love their wives just as the Messiah loves his church/body/assembly/called-out people.
The attraction that exists between two unlike charges or poles is an example.
He, king David, knew that hardly would a man love another man like Jonathan loved him.
Did King David ever say that he preferred the company of Jonathan to that of his wife or any other woman? Did he ever mention that Jonathan loved him more than he loved his wife or women?
It is really outrageous and shameful that you homosexuality activists now use the pure, agape love that existed between two obedient servants of YHVH Almighty, King David - a man after YHVH's own heart and and Jonathan, as a template for the lust and perversion that exist in same sex relationships. Utter ludicrous!
For Jonathan's love for King David to have surpassed that of women, it must have been an extraordinary indeed. One could say that the Father in heaven orchestrated such love because he knew that Saul would eventually seek to destroy David. After all, YHVH Almighty knows the end from the beginning. He had already provided a kind of saviour for king David right there in Saul's house before the trouble started. It was because of the hand of favour of YHVH Almighty on king David that made that kind of love possible.
I have made it crystal clear that what you know are Scriptural passages, not the truth or what they actually say. I will continue to do this - correct your errors as far as the Scriptures are concerned - for the benefit of those who are genuinely seeking the truth. This is necessary so that they are not misled by the errors of very wicked people like you, muttleylaff.
You have no shred of regard for YHVH of Hosts and his Word, that is why you are twisting and hammering his Scriptures to suit your whims and caprices as you are doing.
Be careful!
The word of YHVH Almighty is like fire and like a hammer that crushes a rock into pieces. His words are not idle words.
It is obvious you are an agent of the kingdom of darkness being used by Satan, your master and employer, to promote his homosexuality agenda. That is why you are so brazenly expounding the garbage you are expounding.
Just as I stated earlier,you are a snare to those who are walking the righteous path, but are not yet grounded in the word of the Father in heaven. The simple fact that you are familiar with Scriptural verses does not change what you are. Satan and the demons are familiar with the Scriptures, and very well too.
The very fact that you even had the temerity to quote that portion of the Scriptures in an attempt to justify the lust, perversion and demonic bond which exist in same sex relationships, shows how twisted your mind is. Is it not why you are so unabashedly twisting the Scriptures of the Creator of the ends of the earth?
It is really conspicuous that Satan, your master, has so hammered and twisted your mind that you can no longer distinguish between holy and unholy when it comes to homosexuality activism.
This is why the saints of YHVH Almighty must not fail to speak and condemn homosexuality in clear, explicit and unequivocal terms when the need arises.
The saints of the Elohim of Abraham, the Elohim of Isaac and the Elohim of Jacob, Father of our Master Yahushua the Messiah, must always unapologetically assert the Scriptural stance on homosexuality. This must be done so that those who will hear, will hear. Those who have ears will hear. If the foundation is destroyed, upon what and where will the saints stand?
After all, the kingdom of wickedness is relentlessly propagating the idea that homosexuality is normal and natural. Heck! The agents of Satan are even audaciously turning, bending, twisting and hammering the Scriptures to support the detestable and abominable act called homosexuality.
Unfortunately for them, the Truth of the Creator of the ends of the earth, YHVH of Hosts - he who sits enthroned above the circle of the earth - is neither malleable nor ductile. The Truth is as rigid as rigidity can be.
YHVH Almighty created those who practise homosexuality, but he neither created them homosexuals nor did he create homosexuality. The below is you quoted saying: That is a misplaced love, if it can be called love at all. No one should love another person of the same sex that way, unless where the mind has been tampered with. That kind of love should exist between man and his wife.but when I showed you 2 Samuel 1:26 in response, you all of sudden again have gone into a diatribe, talking jargons and clutching straws |
Christianity Etc › Re: Breaking: Archbishop Lanre Obembe Is Dead! by MuttleyLaff: 10:22am On May 01, 2019 |
expressglory: Archbishop Joseph Olanrewaju Obembe has gone the way of the Fathers.He passed on this morning May1st,2019 according to close family sources.
A highly respected charismatic leader,he is the Presiding Bishop at El-Shaddai Life Ministries and one time President of Pentecostal Fellowship Of Nigeria,Lagos State. Wow, this life is a breath, if this is really confirmed to be true, then may his soul rest in perfect peace |
Christianity Etc › Re: No iota of doubt: homosexuality is Satan's greatest joy. by MuttleyLaff: 5:40pm On Apr 30, 2019*. Modified: 7:07pm On Apr 30, 2019 |
elated177: Throw your new truth and education in homosexuality into the gutter. It is knowledge from the pit of darkness.
I wash my hands and dust my feet. You twister of the Scriptures. Sebi you said: " No one should love another person of the same sex that way, unless where the mind has been tampered with. That kind of love should exist between man and his wife." erh? That 2 Samuel 1:26 verse, must have surprised and flabbergasted you. I can give you more from where that came from cc jesusjnr, Agrogbeide, Alexandro15 |
Christianity Etc › Re: No iota of doubt: homosexuality is Satan's greatest joy. by MuttleyLaff: 5:36pm On Apr 30, 2019*. Modified: 7:03pm On Apr 30, 2019 |
elated177: Very soon you will call David and Jonathan homosexuals, bible graduate. You are the "spot a homosexual" expert. What is my own with what or what not David and Jonathan are to each other. All I'll say is, siddon there, bin dey look, because there are a lot of things about David, you don't half know about |
Christianity Etc › Re: No iota of doubt: homosexuality is Satan's greatest joy. by MuttleyLaff: 7:22am On Apr 30, 2019*. Modified: 8:13am On Apr 30, 2019 |
elated177: That is a misplaced love, if it can be called love at all. No one should love another person of the same sex that way, unless where the mind has been tampered with. That kind of love should exist between man and his wife. " I am distressed for thee, my brother Jonathan: very pleasant hast thou been unto me: thy love to me was wonderful, passing the love of women." - 2 Samuel 1:26 I tell you, you really are a biblical illiterate. cc jesusjnr, Agrogbeide, Alexandro15 |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Enoch Exposed!!!! by MuttleyLaff: 7:22am On Apr 30, 2019*. Modified: 7:52am On May 01, 2019 |
elated177: Why do you find difficult to understand and respect other people's views and opinions? I find it difficult to understand views and opinions, because a lion doesnt concern itself with the opinion of a sheeple, I dont lose sleep over them and also ecause you confuse the truth with the opinion of the majority. Dont you know, people have no right to express an opinion until they know all of the answers. You should try being informed instead of just opinionated. Opinion oftten breeds ignorance. Even if I respect views and opinions, how do you possibly expect me to take them seriously, especially when your opinion isnt reality elated177: You like and enjoy same relationship, have at it. Just desist from twisting and hammering the Scriptures to support it or furnish some justification for it. There is none. The Creator of heaven and earth calls it an abomination Odiegwu! SMH. This a big fat lie now. 1/ When did He call it abomination? 2/ Where did He call it abomination? 3/ What did He call abomination? 4/ Why did He call what He called abomination abomination? elated177: and that is it...finito...okwu agwu la...end of the matter...no room for appeal. Why do you find this hard to understand? Content is king, but context is king-maker elated177. I am quite sure you dont understand that comment. elated177: I have already made my views on homosexuality known to you numerous times on this forum. I have used the Scriptures of our Father in heaven to show you how abominable it is in his sight. There is nothing new to add. There is nothing to remove from what I have said concerning the detestable act called homosexuality. This is all because you havent got the facts right. Nothing is more damaging to a new truth than an old error. elated177: The summary of question which you have asked do many times is this:
What is wrong with two people of the same sex who are engaged in a consensual and committed sexual relationship with each other?
I will give you the same reply I gave you the other time.
So many things are wrong with it:
---it brings about defilement. ---it corrupts the soul and body of the individual. ---it contaminates families. ---it pollutes the society. ---it opens doors to more evil spirits into the world. ---it empowers the manifestation of demons. This in turn leads to all forms of wickedness. Just take a good, long, hard look at our society and tell yourself that it is not filled with wickedness. I love reading and watch you lie, like a cheap Persia rug when I know the truth. So all these will happen if was your mom, dad, brother(s), sister(s), uncle(s), aunt(s), nephew(s), niece(s), cousin(s) kid(s) or grandkid(s) that are part of a two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other, lasting that's a lifetime life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that is not causing damage or harm to another person, not betraying of another person, or even, not cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour, who love each other, enjoy each other’s company, are mutually respectful to each other, mutually supportive to each other, and all that and more, sometimes without sex necessarily being the leading or most important thing for them huh? elated177: You see, MuttleyLaff, some ten, fifteen, twenty years ago, the society was not wicked as it now. Also, homosexuality was not as common as it is now. As the second coming of the Yahushua the Messiah draws nearer, homosexuality will become more common, more countries will either legalize or decriminalize it and those who refuse will be persecuted severely. As acceptance of homosexuality increases, other forms of wickedness will increase with it. Remember that the demons are responsible for the wickedness. For you to say homosexuality was not as common as it is now, means you have no idea about gay sex as the fertility rites, know not about the male cult prostitutes that were part of Canaanite Ashtoreth pagan worship and/or the temple prostitutes Cybele pagan worship with orgiastic rites, generally done in both Old Testament and New Testatment Biblical times respectively. SMH. Nothing is as dangerous as an ignorant believer, especially one like you that keeps displaying colossal ignorance(s). No one is entitled to being and remaining ignorant. You are not entitled to your opinion of lies. You are entitled to being informed elated177: Can you not see what the Scriptures below are saying? They are plain, simple and direct for you to understand. No special interpretation required.
Isaiah 24:5 The earth is defiled by its people; they have disobeyed the laws, violated the statutes and broken the everlasting covenant.
The earth will become so defiled that the only solution will be its destruction.
Isaiah 24:1-3 See, YHVH is going to lay waste the earth and devastate it; he will ruin its face and scatter its inhabitants - it will be the same for priest as for people, for the master as for his servant, for seller as for buyer, for borrower as for lender, for debtor as for creditor. The earth will be completely laid waste and totally plundered. YHVH has spoken this word. So to you, it's two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other, lasting that's a lifetime life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that is not causing damage or harm to another person, not betraying of another person, or even, not cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour, who love each other, enjoy each other’s company, are mutually respectful to each other, mutually supportive to each other, and all that and more, sometimes without sex necessarily being the leading or most important thing for them, are defiling the earth, huh? elated177: So, dude, forget sentiments. Homosexuality, no matter the form, or shame or pattern, is evil and wrong in so many ways. What exactly is the evil and wrong in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other, lasting that's a lifetime life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that is not causing damage or harm to another person, not betraying of another person, or even, not cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour, who love each other, enjoy each other’s company, are mutually respectful to each other, mutually supportive to each other, and all that and more, sometimes without sex necessarily being the leading or most important thing for them, are defiling the earth, huh elated177? elated177: Muttleylaff, enjoy your homosexuality. We no dey fight o. Scripturally, it is disgusting, abominable and detestable. That is my stand. Do you understand who an animal activist is? Do you understand what an animal activist does, huh? Do you know why animal activists, do all what they do, huh. OK, now replace animal activist with homosexuality activist, that you so much enjoy calling me as. cc jesusjnr, Agrogbeide, Alexandro15 |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Enoch Exposed!!!! by MuttleyLaff: 5:01pm On Apr 29, 2019 |
elated177: For the umpteenth time.
Actually, muttleylaff, discussing Scriptures with you or anyone who holds your view on homosexuality - after seeing where the Scriptures have unambiguously stated the detestable nature of homosexuality - can as well be a waste of time and energy.
I won't be engaging in any kind of discussion bordering on the Scriptures of YHVH of Hosts with you anymore on this forum, muttleylaff. It is crystal clear that you are a homosexuality activist. It is almost as if you are being paid to say the things you say in futile attempt to find some good in homosexuality. Your interpretation of the Scriptures will always be skewed, that fact has been well established.
I wash my hands and dust my feet.
Revel in your homosexuality. So what if I am a homosexuality activist, huh? Some one at least has to make the conscientious decision, to stand up, be a voice for and speak out about the injustice and lack of fairness, to two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other, lasting that's a lifetime life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that is not causing damage or harm to another person, not betraying of another person, or even, not cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour. elated177, reiterating, if you want to talk about the "good in homosexuality", well there is a lot of good in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other, lasting that's a lifetime life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that is not causing damage or harm to another person, not betraying of another person, or even, not cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour elated177, like I earlier put to you, have you ever considered the thought of, love, a good thing, that defines the relationship between the two consenting adults, in such a way that they love each other, that they enjoy each other’s company, they are mutually respectful to each other, mutually supportive to each other, and sometimes without sex necessarily being the leading or most important thing for them, huh?. It’s those kind of things, like mutual love, mutual respect, mutual honesty, mutual truthfulness, mutually supportive of each other etcetera, that really matter, the most in the relationship, and as like in any other relationship, whether heterosexual and homosexual, this is a good thing elated177, or dont you agree or think so, huh? |
Christianity Etc › Re: No iota of doubt: homosexuality is Satan's greatest joy. by MuttleyLaff: 4:58pm On Apr 29, 2019 |
elated177: For the umpteenth time.
I won't be engaging in any kind of discussion bordering on the Scriptures of YHVH of Hosts with you anymore on this forum, muttleylaff. It is crystal clear that you are a homosexuality activist. It is almost as if you are being paid to say the things you say in futile attempt to find some good in homosexuality. Your interpretation of the Scriptures will always be skewed, that fact has been well established.
Enjoy your homosexuality. Leave the Scriptures of YHVH Almighty alone and stop twisting them. So what if I am a homosexuality activist, huh? Some one at least has to make the conscientious decision, to stand up, be a voice for and speak out about the injustice and lack of fairness, to two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other, lasting that's a lifetime life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that is not causing damage or harm to another person, not betraying of another person, or even, not cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour. elated177, reiterating, if you want to talk about the "good in homosexuality", well there is a lot of good in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other, lasting that's a lifetime life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that is not causing damage or harm to another person, not betraying of another person, or even, not cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour elated177, like I earlier put to you, have you ever considered the thought of, love, a good thing, that defines the relationship between the two consenting adults, in such a way that they love each other, that they enjoy each other’s company, they are mutually respectful to each other, mutually supportive to each other, and sometimes without sex necessarily being the leading or most important thing for them, huh?. It’s those kind of things, like mutual love, mutual respect, mutual honesty, mutual truthfulness, mutually supportive of each other etcetera, that really matter, the most in the relationship, and as like in any other relationship, whether heterosexual and homosexual, this is a good thing elated177, or dont you agree or think so, huh? |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Wrong With This Translation?? by MuttleyLaff: 1:32pm On Apr 29, 2019 |
CarlyX8: Just look verse 9, "it is all you have" this also translate the desire of people trying to get rich rich by all means and of course selfish because they believe that life it's short, while king James version stated clearly that "it is your portion" and everything it's vanity......
"It's all you have" as against your "it's your portion" we all know that the riches of the earth is not all a Christian have, it's written that our rewards is in heaven, that no eyes or ears have heard or seen what the God have prepared for us. Amidst all merryment carry the anointing, be ye not carried away, for its your portion (be contented in it and rejoice) CarlyX8, c'mon now, admit you are just trying to split hair here. "This is your portion" equates to and is same as "this is all you have" without trying to read any other meaning to it or bringing in something clearly different into it |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Wrong With This Translation?? by MuttleyLaff: 10:17am On Apr 29, 2019 |
CarlyX8: Just saw this on correct bro's post on Facebook, already noticed some discrepancies, but I will like the experts to please help me out more"
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king James version Ecc 9:7 Go thy way, eat thy bread with joy, and drink thy wine with a merry heart; for God now accepteth thy works. Ecc 9:8 Let thy garments be always white; and let thy head lack no ointment.
Ecc 9:9 Live joyfully with the wife whom thou lovest all the days of the life of thy vanity, which he hath given thee under the sun, all the days of thy vanity: for that [is] thy portion in [this] life, and in thy labour which thou takest under the sun.
Ecc 9:10 Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do [it] with thy might; for [there is] no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest.
Compare with the image below There is no discrepancy per se as such, because the screenshot is just embellished and hasn't lost the import of the original text, whilst the former is a true render of the original text |
Christianity Etc › Re: Demons manifesting live by MuttleyLaff: 8:26am On Apr 29, 2019 |
delishpot:
Are you yoruba Muslim? You watch that video and say its not a big deal? Do you have work colleagues, friends, relations and close family members who are muslims and who you now dont anymore trust ni? Abeggy softly softly ooo, dont be trying to ignite a fuse that isnt there ooo |