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Christianity Etc › Re: How To Get Jehovah's Witnesses To Listen by MuttleyLaff: 10:12pm On Apr 22, 2019
Maximus69:
EXACTLY Ma, but the only mistake in your writeup is including 'JWs' because if you're not a JW,JWs won't worship with you ooooo!
So your God is not the same as ours, the time is running out, we don't waste time chating when you're not ready to join the family.
Goodbye budaatum! smiley
This comment is extremely true, because I recall an incident in 1999 at the departure lounge of one of these European city airport. I usually back in the day then, carry my miniature red sleeve jacket KJV bible on me when travelling and definitely was reading it on this particular day, whilst waiting to be called to start boarding the flight, because this young lady, when I got up and was about walking past where she sat to go the toilet or maybe get something like a drink or snack, got my intention and started asking, apparently because of earlier spotting me with the miniature red sleeve jacket KJV bible, if I am JW, surprisingly when I didnt say, Yes, but I said No and that I am a believer, I noticed the mood changed quickly to disinterest and a brick wall suddenly shot up. I inwardly SMH for her whilst walking along. I'll never forget that incident, it reminds me of the story in heaven, when Angel Gabriel was asked who were the lot at the other end of heaven, and his response was they are JWs, but dont tell them who you are, as they think they are the only ones present in heaven
Christianity Etc › Re: Demons manifesting live by MuttleyLaff: 9:30pm On Apr 22, 2019
delishpot:
Muttley my padi, how body dey? cool
God dey
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Spend 3 Days And 3 Nights As He Promised? by MuttleyLaff: 7:39pm On Apr 22, 2019
paxonel:
obligatory or imposed ecclesiastical monitised tithing has nothing to do with good fridays, easter sundays and christmas.
I mean, i am a christian. I celebrate the death and resurrection of Jesus christ on a fixed date all other christians are celebrating it world wide but i dont pay or collect tithe and no one can force me to pay or collect tithe.
Wasnt it you who said:
"whether the dates or calculations are right or wrong so long the celebrations are uniting christians worldwide and are great sources of happiness and consolation we dont mind but keep observing the dates and celebrations annually" huh?
Are you cherry-picking of facts and doing pick and choose ni?

Well obligatory or imposed ecclesiastical monitised tithing unites christians worldwide and they too are fixated on celebrating this aberration, but you knowing the truth about it, are not joining in their company behaving badly now.

We see no celebration of Easter nor Christmas in the New Testament. Easter, a pagan festival and Christmas celebration are uniting Christians worldwide into damnation, especially them that have come into the knowledge of this information and still unrepentant
Christianity Etc › Re: The Woman Called Earth Is Homophobic (Full Version)* by MuttleyLaff:
Agrogbeide:
NIV:They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.
NIV:Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones.
NIV:In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in
Romans 1:25-27
Nwanne, please with a clear and clean conscience, would you say you have examined and inspected that Romans 1:25-27 closely and thoroughly enough to do a 2 Timothy 2:15 rightly handling the word of truth and correctly handle the word of truth about it, huh?

Have you done an exegesis of Romans 1:25-27, that's enough to the point where you can explain and interpret the verses in such a way, that a two year old would understand, huh?

You see why jesusjnr hasnt the balls and finds it awfully difficult to one on one with me? He knows he will be exposed by the information from the discussion, if held between him and I. I doubt you too, that you're spiritually mature and ready to answer hard questions and to make matters worse, you havent the stamina to go the distant with me on the whole matter.

You want to hear word, isnt it Agrogbeide?, And that hear word, I'll give you a bit earful of it to you now.

Now Agrogbeide, you would accept and agree that there was no such thing as woman lying with woman written in Old Testament Biblical records, erh?

OK, fast forward to New Testament Biblical records, and boom! What have we? Women, now too, are doing the female equivalent of, man lying down with man. Women have joined gang Agrogbeide. They have left ordinarily being a shrine prostitute, for services of just men, but now offering the similar service, usually male customers privilege but now made available for female patrons too

So, Agrogbeide, what is happening and/or what happened in Romans 1:25-28?
Well, for your information Agrogbeide, Romans 1:18-32, especially verses 24, 26 & 27 are a rehash of Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 with a twist

Paul, with Romans 1:18-32, especially verses 24, 26 & 27, is echoing what happened around when the original Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 were given. He then added the twist (i.e. Romans 1:26b: ... for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature) which is, the women too, have joined to be participants in the ongoing "detestable customs practised"

All this is new information to you Agrogbeide. Stay away from bad influence because I know, blind as a bat jesusjnr, is a bad influence on you, so my advice is associate yourself with people of good quality, for it is better to be alone than to be in bad company with jesusjnr and ignoranus homophobes like him.

There are two kinds of light, the glow that illuminates and the glare that obscures, please as regards the former, feel free to ask questions in order to shed light on whatever takes your fancy on this matter in question

Agrogbeide:
My dear friend @Muttleylaff in no way or the other am I in support of LGBT and Bestiality!!!!
My dear nwanne friend Agrogbeide, forget talking about bestiality jor because at the very least, are you trying to tell me that animals verbally give consent ni?

Now, as for the real matter at hand, please tell, why are you not in support of two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other, lasting that's a lifetime life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that is not causing damage or harm to another person, not betraying of another person, or even, not cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour, huh?

Agrogbeide:
I read the reasons you stated concerning homosexual relationship which we must consider so as to let them be, but the fact is that;
NIV:So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.

NIV:God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.”
Genesis 1:27-28
If the reasons you stated for the defense of homosexuality should be accepted in Christendom, same reasons must be considered for the Atheists, Satanist, Idolaters, etc because many of them are honest, easy going and has little or no records of violence.
The damage caused by sin affected both man and nature, thanks to the Lord God Almighty that man has been redeemed by the Lord Jesus Christ and nature will also be redeem when the Lord Jesus Christ finally comes to reign and remain king forever.
Please, please, please, stop proof-texting and desist from doing all these your conflating nonsense stuff, erh?

Now what reasons was given that you know of, huh? So now you want to lump two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other, lasting that's a lifetime life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that is not causing damage or harm to another person, not betraying of another person, or even, not cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour with Atheists, Satanist, Idolaters, etc, huh?

So an atheist who says in his heart, there is no God, in your books is honest, huh?
So Satanists whose ideological and philosophical beliefs are based on Satan, are in your book not a betrayal, huh?
So even idolaters whose ideological and philosophical beliefs are at variance to God's are in your book commited and faithful, huh?

We are talking of two consenting adults here Agrogbeide, loving each other, for life and you are deflecting on to Atheists, Satanist, Idolaters, etcetera. After today and tomorrow Tuesday even the calendar says WTF. SMH.

Let's see how you'll avoid answering these two hot potato questions:
1/ Agrogbeide, hypothetically speaking, if one of your kids, grandkids, nephews and/or nieces confide in you to having sexual attraction to only another of same sex as them, would you see the person as being abhorrent and be worse than a piece of junk?
2/ Then following up with #1 above, again hypothetically speaking, maybe say, same one of your kids, grandkids, nephews and/or nieces confides in you, that they are involved with an easy going, ordinary consenting adult and enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that is not causing damage or harm to another person, not betraying of another person, or even, not cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour, would you respond to the person that they are worse than a piece of junk and disgusting?

Agrogbeide:
So my dear friend @Muttleylaff I think you should go back and ask for more light in regards to this issue and wait for what the Holy Spirit will offer at His golden table for you. We make mistakes and learn everyday but what we learn must be the Truth and any Truth not found in the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is False.
We are not to judge but frown at LGBT and bestiality, not to discriminate but pray hard for them until they accept the light which is the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
Thanks.
God bless.
Do you know what Agrogbeide, I find arrogant and condescending people irritating. I could be wrong but I seem to be sensing in the air, the waft arrogance of an ignoranus delighting in his own ignorance, so please

Theology is like being in a dark room and knowing eventually super natural power will shed light in the dark room and everything will be OK.
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Spend 3 Days And 3 Nights As He Promised? by MuttleyLaff: 1:31pm On Apr 22, 2019
paxonel:
whether the dates or calculations are right or wrong so long the celebrations are uniting christians worldwide and are great sources of happiness and consolation we dont mind but keep observing the dates and celebrations annually.
Validating, spreading and promoting the doctrine of obligatory or imposed ecclesiastical monitised tithing unites Christian worldwide and are great sources of happiness and consoltion to the beneficiaries but you who do mind, dont pay this same obligatory or imposed ecclesiastical monitised. What is going on here, why not be consistent, behave in the same way and have the same attitude towards paying obligatory or giving imposed ecclesiastical monitised tithing, huh?
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Spend 3 Days And 3 Nights As He Promised? by MuttleyLaff: 12:42pm On Apr 22, 2019
paxonel:
i have said it.
It wount do anyone good to observe accurate calculations on this issue, just like it will not do anyone good to obtain the actual day Jesus was given birth to based on calculations.
Friday and sunday are already fixed and widely accepted for the celebration of jesu mois crucifixion and resurrection respectively, just like 25 th december is fixed and widely accepted for christmas.
No amount of accurate calculations can change these fixed dates, because changing these dates will not change anything.
This is exactly why I keep saying if more Christians read their Bible properly, they'd be less Christians taking Good Friday and 25th December as make beliefs, just as much like the tooth fairy and Santa Claus arent real.

It is Constantine or Catholic Christians and their lackeys, that will hold on to these lies after knowing the fact and truth
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Spend 3 Days And 3 Nights As He Promised? by MuttleyLaff:
TVSA:
so it was Thursday we weren't supposed to eat meat? grin grin
If you are catholic christian, yes

sagenaija:
“Three days and three nights” is not a figurative phrase, but refers to literal three days and three nights. John 2:19: “In three days”; Mark 8:31: “after three days”; Luke 24:46: “on the third day” all mean what is stated – 3 literal days. Comparing this to Jonah’s experience should further tell us that that no figurative use is implied. Knowing that Jesus rose sometime before Sunday morning, using the Judean or Gentile calendar, we can count backwards and arrive at when the three days and three nights were.

A number of things were coming together at this time. There was the Passover and the preparations for it. Jesus – the Passover Lamb – had to be slain when the Jewish Passover was being celebrated. The day after the Passover was regarded as a “high day” – an annual sabbath – celebrated much like the weekly sabbath – no serious work is to be done: Leviticus 23:5-7. So, two sabbaths were in this period of Jesus Christ’s death and resurrection.

Knowing that these “sabbaths” were should help understand the timeline involved in the three days and three nights covered in the death and resurrection of Jesus.

Much like Christmas what the Church is doing is to MARK the events and not necessarily to identify the exact dates or timeline.
Yep, you are on point on all your account(s)

aribitoye:
Jesus died on a Wednesday and rose on Saturday evening. 3days, 3 nights. Like the previous poster rightly said, there were 2 Sabbaths during Jesus crucifixion. Please try to read the Bible between lines with understanding. The widely accepted Friday to Sunday morning doctrine is false!
https://reasonsforhopejesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/thurs-3-days-chart.jpg

No sire, a ribitoye, because the Jewish day begins and ends at sundown, as in, the time in the evening when the sun disappears or daylight fades. Jesus was on the cross by 9:00am, died by 3:00pm Thursday day and was buried on same Thursday day before sundown
cc p axonel
Christianity Etc › Re: The Woman Called Earth Is Homophobic (Full Version)* by MuttleyLaff:
jesusjnr:
You are very right with respect to the earth being a woman and a living thing, and also using humans to illustrate this.

For the Earth just like us humans react to things that happen to in and on her body just like humans do.

And just like humans can fall sick, she can fall sick also, and evil and abominable things like this which men do in her body are what makes her fall sick, and hence her body reacts a times violently to them, just someone suffering from feverish conditions.

You see earthquakes, droughts and the likes, it's her body reacting to such evils that men do
.
I have not even started with this thread because there a whole lot to share concerning that truth, but this was just done as a matter of urgency, to at least get the word out.

So do not mind the wolf gay advocate dressed in the sheep clothing of a christian to decieve the gullible, for you are right to that extent.

Thanks and God bless.
Your comment like the above never matters because its the thought of an ignoranus and that literally not one word of your comment is even remotely true. There is a difference between a blanket gay advocate and a conscious deconstructionist, but you wont know that, as "O kere si number wa" loosely translated means "you're in a lower league than us"

jesusjnr, unlike you, people such as I, make it a conscientious decision, to be a voice and speak out about the injustice and lack of fairness, to two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other, lasting that's a lifetime life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that is not causing damage or harm to another person, not betraying of another person, or even, not cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour.

1/ jesusjnr, hypothetically speaking, if one of your kids, grandkids, nephews and/or nieces confide in you to having sexual attraction to only another of same sex as them, would you see the person as being abhorrent and be worse than a piece of junk?
2/ Then following up with #1 above, again hypothetically speaking, maybe say, same one of your kids, grandkids, nephews and/or nieces confides in you, that they are involved with an easy going, ordinary consenting adult and enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that is not causing damage or harm to another person, not betraying of another person, or even, not cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour, would you respond to the person that they are worse than a piece of junk and disgusting?
cc Agrogbeide
Christianity Etc › Re: Demons manifesting live by MuttleyLaff: 8:35am On Apr 22, 2019
delishpot:
lipsrsealed lipsrsealed To trust den dey hard o. Can I trust when Bubu says the Islamization plan for Naija is a false flag?
delishpot:
No comments please, just watch and learn.
The third reason, yeah but its not like one is opening eyes and without blinking, is allowing dirt enter them now.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Woman Called Earth Is Homophobic (Full Version)* by MuttleyLaff: 7:38am On Apr 22, 2019
beauty7:
I read somewhere that the Earth is a wife to the Sun.The sun has 9 planets as wives.They all revolve around their husband the sun.The sun feeds them with light and energy.The Earth only has one child for the sun (ie the moon). Other planets have more children.The earth is a living thing. We are living in a living thing just like micro organisms live in us not knowing they are living in a living thing.
What you read is likely from the Tenrikyo religion, taken from the Ofudesaki and its not omnipotent god, known as, Tenri-Ō-no-Mikoto, meaning "Lord of Divine Wisdom"

Did you, also, somewhere read, that God is metaphorically referred to as the Moon and the Sun, that God, entered these models respectively to exercise divine providence? That the moon and sun could be understood as visual manifestations of the divine. Just as those bodies impartially give the world light and warmth at all times of the day, the workings of the divine are also impartial and constant, and that the man and woman, were created in the image of heaven and earth, as in, men are likened to heaven, which symbolizes the providence of water and fluids, and women to earth, which symbolizes the providence of warmth and fire
Christianity Etc › Re: Omega Power Ministries (OPM) Builds Free Hospital For All In Rivers State by MuttleyLaff: 11:16pm On Apr 21, 2019
ThothHermes:
Hahaha...
Dem go wreck.
Even bigger churches no go try am.
O ma run down!
"30saying, 'This man began to build and was not able to finish.'
31Or what king on his way to war with another king will not first sit down
and consider whether he can engage with ten thousand men the one coming against him with twenty thousand?
"
- Luke 14:30-31

Commendable free antenatal and postnatal care initiative by OPM
Christianity Etc › Re: The Woman Called Earth Is Homophobic (Full Version)* by MuttleyLaff: 9:56pm On Apr 21, 2019
jesusjnr:
Just ignore this likely wicked(gay, sexist, pro-abortion)Christian that has proven himself to be a waste of someone's time and effort.

For I still regret the only time I spent last trying to sow some seeds of Truth into his life, for he proved to be a dead ground upon which the Truth cannot bear fruits.

Then I didn't know this much about Him, but I had seen enough to give me an idea of the lost cause I was chasing.

Thanks a lot for your efforts.

Don't stop at anything for the Earth needs us to speak for it, so we must continue to do so.

God bless you much!
MuttleyLaff:
Havent you been told, that, I don't do arguments jesusjnr?
Did you really think, standing up to you has anything to do with me or finding who is right?
jesusjnr no!. Far from it

It has nothing to do with arguments
How can I get into argument with you when I havent ignorances on Paul, to trade with and exchange for your ignorances?


One of the most sincere forms of respect is actually listening to what another has to say,
but then often times, the ignorant are ignorant of their ignorance jesusjnr

It's not about you versus me
It's about you and me versus the wrong/false accusations you level at Paul

It's about unmasking you, yeah, the masquerade, for that's what you are
and exposing your unfruitful works of darkness+iniquities, like for example, the slander of Paul
You are at sea. It's that simple

jesusjnr, it is not in the literal sense "atori" cat o' nine tails whip lashing
but you've run with, twisted my "atori" hyperbole and whipping up sentiments with it to distract the readership

My philosophy is non-violence jesusjnr,
but always appear keen to face up to & deal with a problem and be ready for battle.

jesusjnr please show from this thread or any other place on this forum
proof of me following you all over the place subtly trying to get responses from you

If you cant show where, if you are unable to produce anything,
then please jesusjnr, retract your false accusations and tender public apologies accordingly


I know all your false accusations are unfounded
Now, you being one, that does understands the meaning of honour and integrity jesusjnr
can be expected to know the needful that needs to be done here about this your blatant lie

I am lowering my standards, if to wrestle you.
Besides I never wrestle a pig.
Bad move, poor judgment and taste it'll be, as the pig and I will both get dirty,
but unlike me, the pig likes and enjoys the dirt.

Do sycophant, arse-lickers & arse-kissers bullshitters always need to stoop as low as you've written so?
Arse-lickers & arse-kissers bullshitters like you, are always the first post false bullshits & start drama


I'll whoop your bumbum, your brain will reset and your false bullshits & drama evaporate. Mtcheew.
No wonder you're the arse-licker & arse-kisser, and I am an arse-kicker.

Your insecurities are loud
Your boastings and gloating to luvmijeje confirms you shamelessly need regard & appreciation from her
Stop seeking recognition and validation from people! jesusjnr
All these your, sucking up to luvmijeje, especially, is unflattering
and your all of a sudden, lately attention-seeking, famzing Freeze, all over the forum, haba, is cringeworthy!


Repent brother because the day of reckoning for your slander and impudence, is round the corner, about to happen.
Yeye dey smell ignoranus homophobe pot calling snow black jesusjnr
Christianity Etc › Re: You Can't Be Intelligent And Be Religious At The Same Time. by MuttleyLaff: 8:43pm On Apr 21, 2019
GreatResearcher:
See chumps like you licking their God of men feet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raQzyTzw-e4
Pope Francis kneels to kiss feet of South Sudan rival leaders one by one. The 82-year-old pope, who suffers from chronic leg pain, was helped by aides as he knelt with difficulty to kiss the shoes of the leaders and several other people in the room.

GreatResearcher:
Chump go fucck your God..
This is my last mention for you..
Go worship your God of men.
This cant be the great GreatResearcher I know, someone must have hacked into his moniker
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Spend 3 Days And 3 Nights As He Promised? by MuttleyLaff: 5:33pm On Apr 21, 2019
paxonel:
you are absolutely right on this.
But like i said before, it is really not necessary to follow the accurate calculation you presented here and make it thusday.
Why?
Because friday is already widely accepted even though the calculation was wrong.
Quite a lot of things, such as validating, spreading and promoting obligatory or imposed ecclesiastical monitised tithing is widely accepted even though this calculation is totally wrong, yet it is voiced against
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Spend 3 Days And 3 Nights As He Promised? by MuttleyLaff: 5:29pm On Apr 21, 2019
frbona:
doesn't add up to 3days and 3nights
No logic can satisfy this particular question
Admit it, Christianity is flawed
You are totally right in saying "Christianity is flawed" because Christianity flawed how it adds up to 3 days and 3 nights
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Spend 3 Days And 3 Nights As He Promised? by MuttleyLaff: 3:44pm On Apr 21, 2019
paxonel:
how does it matter?

Explain?
Prophecy has to be fulfilled. How this was fulfilled, you will if scroll up, find, has already been explained above
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Spend 3 Days And 3 Nights As He Promised? by MuttleyLaff: 3:39pm On Apr 21, 2019
paxonel:
It ready do not matter whether it is 3 days and 3 night or less. The bottomline is Jesus died and resurrected after 3 days in the grave, thats all.
It does matter that it is 3 days and 3 nights as prophesised, and so it was 3 days and 3 nights
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Spend 3 Days And 3 Nights As He Promised? by MuttleyLaff: 3:31pm On Apr 21, 2019
frbona:
grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
"And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day."
- Genesis 1:5

People sheepishly believe what the Church establishment said, and hadnt searched nor read the scriptures properly or understand how Jewish day and night begins
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Spend 3 Days And 3 Nights As He Promised? by MuttleyLaff:
TMemos:
Were the 3 days and 3 nights spent by Jonah not literal?

How did you arrive at 3 days and 3 nights from Friday evening to Sunday morning? Eh? Break it down.

Friday night to Saturday morning: 1 night

Saturday full day: 1 day

Saturday night to Sunday morning: 1 night

Total: 2nights, 1day
Follow below

TMemos:
Are you changing Good Friday to Good Thursday?
On which authority are you relying on to do this?
It always has been Good Thursday nwanne.

TMemos:
Let's even calculate it even if it was a Thursday:

Thursday night to Friday morning: 1 night
Friday full day: 1 day
Friday night to Saturday morning: 1 night
Saturday full day: 1day
Saturday night to Sunday morning: 1 night

Total: 3 nights, 2 days

You wanna try Good Wednesday?
"It was the day of preparation, and the Jewish leaders didn’t want the bodies hanging there the next day, which was the Sabbath
(and a very special Sabbath, because it was Passover week).
So they asked Pilate to hasten their deaths by ordering that their legs be broken. Then their bodies could be taken down.
"
- John 19:31

It has to be on the authority of John 19:31 above, and no, I dont need to wanna try Good Wednesday because of the fact that the Last Supper occurred on Wednesday, never a Thursday, thus Christ was, in fact, crucified on Thursday, never a Friday.

TVSA:
this guy, you like trouble
Thursday day to Thursday night: Jesus was on the cross by 9:00am, died by 3:00pm and off the cross before sundown so 1 day and 1 night
The Jewish day starts at sundown or nightfall of the previous evening, and continues throughout the night and following day, until the next night.
Friday morning to Friday night day: 1 day and 1 night
Saturday morning to Saturday night: 1 day and 1 night (i.e. Jesus rosed before sunrise)
Sunday morning: Resurrection morning
Christianity Etc › Re: The Woman Called Earth Is Homophobic (Full Version)* by MuttleyLaff: 1:20pm On Apr 21, 2019
jesusjnr2:
Teach them the ignoramuses the truth.
The bible is real and truth but it's ignoranuses like you who teach it wrong.

jesusjnr2:
I have had this topic lined up for a long time, and I wasn't even ready yet to put it forward but when I saw the endorsement of gay sex by the catholic pope, men, I just knew I had to just bring something out, at least send a drastic message across, so this is not even one quarter of what I have to say yet.
Jorge Mario Bergoglio, the elected Pope, is an agent of change, and shaking up the Catholic Church from the inside and the world at large, breaking varying traditions at an unprecedented rate, the latest was him, ten days ago, kneeling down and kissing the feet of South Sudan's rival leaders, meanwhile flamboyant Ugandan Prophet, Elvis Mbonye, revealed to his congregation that he is about to literally walk to heaven and in order for the congregation to receive blessings when he gets there, they need to come kiss his feet whilst he sat on a golden chair

jesusjnr2:
But at least for now, it should be something.

Thanks a whole lot for speaking out for the truth, because believe me, if humans don't cry out again this demonic agenda, the Earth would cry out.

And believe me we don't really want to wait till the Earth to cries out!

God bless you mightily.
What is the demonic agenda there, in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other, lasting that's a lifetime life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that is not causing damage or harm to another person, not betraying of another person, or not cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour?
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Spend 3 Days And 3 Nights As He Promised? by MuttleyLaff: 12:46pm On Apr 21, 2019
TVSA:
the three days and three nights isn't literal? grin grin
It is literal, literal as they come, just that the first day and first night was a Thursday, then Jesus resurrected on Sunday morning

advocate666:
You guys should give jesus a break. He didn't go to school so couldn't do calculations.

Jesus calculating 3+3 is just the equivalent of asking a wheel barrow pusher to do algebra.
Your head honcho Satan, wouldnt dare to talk about Jesus the way you've done
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Spend 3 Days And 3 Nights As He Promised? by MuttleyLaff:
TMemos:
There is a big question hanging on crucifixion.

Jesus said he was going to spend 3 days and 3 nights in the heart of the earth just as Jonah spent 3 days and 3 nights in the belly of the fish.

Jesus was crucified on Friday. He was said to have risen on Sunday. This cannot be up to 3 days and 3 nights. The prophecy was not fulfilled and this is a big doubt on crucifixion and the entire Christian faith.

He spent two nights and a day!
He spent three days and three nights as prophesied.

TVSA:
what of this?

Matthew 12:40 KJV
For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Friday afternoon to Sunday morning isn't up to three days and three nights
Conscious literalism things.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Woman Called Earth Is Homophobic (Full Version)* by MuttleyLaff:
SluttanSlayer:
Show me a monkey with AIDS.
Sooty mangabey monkeys

SluttanSlayer:
You fagg0ts are literally full of sh!t.
Is Alan Turning and/or Leo Varadkar full of sh!t too?

SluttanSlayer:
Up till 1978, the American Medical Association classified homosexuality as a mental disorder
Do Alan Turning and/or Leo Varadkar have this mental disorder too then?

SluttanSlayer:
The term Gay Cancer was used to describe several rectal and colon cancers that were exclusive to gay men .

Gay men account for less than 2% of the US population but are responsible for 70% of newly diagnosed Syphillis infections. Is Syphilis also from primates ?

AIDS was first diagnosed among Gay men and used to be described as the gay virus .Even till this day, HIV is more rampant in the gay community than else where.
What of gay women then?

SluttanSlayer:
Do not try to normalize this mental disorder.
Please tell what is the mental disorder in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other, lasting that's a lifetime life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that is not causing damage or harm to another person, not betraying of another person, or not cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour?

SluttanSlayer:
You fagg0ts with the help of your subversive Jewish masters bullied the medical community to accept your degenerate lifestyles. You then succeeded to a large extent in getting some support from the church now you want us all to accept your dik cravings as normal?
1/ Have you ever thought that not every gay relationship is necessarily anal penetrative, huh?
2/ Even if it's anal for some, have you thought of where there are partners who are not into same sex or gender relationships, that do practice and enjoy anal penetration during or in their sexual liasons?

SluttanSlayer:
When I say homosexuality is demonic possession, your foolish type fall under this category
Please respect other people's LGBT sexual orientation, even if you dont understand or if it doesnt mean anything to you, it means a lot to them. Life Gets Better Together (LGBT), the moment we realise and recognise that every human being, regardless of sexual orientation leanings, deserves a safe and supportive environment to live in and live without feeling fear of whatsoever, restraint or obligation.

SluttanSlayer:
But I do not have your time as mother nature is doing a good job in eradicating your lot from the face of the earth.
Typical ignoranus reaction to hate and then do a hit-and-run, especially in a case, when you're illinformed, know less than you should and so does not understand

SluttanSlayer:
Faggin
Animals don't hate, but isnt it ironic that us humans are supposed to be better than them, and that, sometimes people hate you because of the way other people love you and not realising that is not WHO you love, but actually at the end of the day, it boils down to HOW you love.

Now tell me how you think God will judge others for how they love and not judge you SluttanSlayer and jesusjnr, for hating two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other, lasting that's a lifetime life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that is not causing damage or harm to another person, not betraying of another person, or not cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour?
Christianity Etc › Re: Anyone Who Discards Gay People Doesn’t Have A Human Heart – Pope Francis by MuttleyLaff: 7:03am On Apr 21, 2019
Image123:
Lol, corrected.
Ah bliss. Almost did my head in trying to get what you meant. It's better now. Thanks.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Woman Called Earth Is Homophobic (Full Version)* by MuttleyLaff:
jesusjnr2:
Genesis 18:20-21 (KJV)

And the LORD said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievous;
I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come unto me; and if not, I will know.


The Earth cried against the homosexualism in Sodom and Gomorrah, and this was the result of her cry:

Genesis 19:24-28 (KJV)

Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven;
And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground.
But his wife looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of salt.
And Abraham gat up early in the morning to the place where he stood before the LORD:
And he looked toward Sodom and Gomorrah, and toward all the land of the plain, and beheld, and, lo, the smoke of the country went up as the smoke of a furnace.


So when we allow ourselves to be used to encourage and spread the abomination of homosexualism, let's know what we're are actually asking for, and getting ourselves into, for it anti-Earth, anti-nature, anti-life, and anti-humanity.

And hence elicits an unprecedented reaction from the Earth.

By the way the Earth is a woman.

To be continued.
You jesusjnr always open threads and be talking about bullshit you don't know sha. SMH.

jesusjnr2:
Mother Earth ahbors homosexuality!
"1,500 animal species practice homosexuality.
No species has been found in which homosexual behaviour has not been shown to exist,
with the exception of species that never have sex at all, such as sea urchins and aphis.
Moreover, a part of the animal kingdom is hermaphroditic, truly bisexual. For them, homosexuality is not an issue
"
- Medical Science News Published: Monday, 23-Oct-2006

Really, that you say Mother Earth ahbors homosexuality, shut the front door.

MuttleyLaff:
The word "homosexuality" was not around in Biblical times
and the word "homosexual" was invented in 1868

It is Karl-Maria Kertbeny, who originally and/or previously used the word homosexual, when he coined and introduced it first, in a private letter written in 1868 to a friend, Karl Heinrich Ulrichs

Subsequently the first known appearance of the term homosexual in print appeared in an German pamphlet written by same Karl-Maria Kertbeny the following year in 1869

Another interesting to know, is that the original Greek word in the Bible (i.e. "arsenokoites'') that has now been adopted as meaning homosexual is actually a translation from the result of combining of two words "arsen" and "koites" which literally means "man and beds"

It would be exciting to know, why Paul, in 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 and 1 Timothy 1:8-11, when inventing this word "arsenokoites", where in his construct, he used, man, in singular and then used beds, in plural,

1 Corinthians 6:9-11 and 1 Timothy 1:8-11 are the only two times, in the Bible's entire history, that the word "arsenokoites" is used and seen
jesusjnr2:
Mother Earth cries out against gay sex
I like this comment, it is a very deep-rooted and primordial observation, though this comment is not in a clear and detailed manner said like that in scripture, it however, can be read from it, so, I am interested to know what the bible verse is, that inspired the comment.

SluttanSlayer:
Spermatoza is an immunity suppressant. It has to or else a woman's body will reject the sperm cells. In order to also conceive a baby , the female's body must accept the sperm cells or else her body will treat both the sperm cells and or fertilized ovaries as a foreign invasive organism .

Now just imagine having to take sperm up your ass as a man mixed with blood and fecal matter ?

This is how aids was born
AIDS is caused by a human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), which originated in non-human primates in Central and West Africa, and so, it is widely believed that HIV originated in Kinshasa, in the Democratic Republic of Congo around 1920 when HIV crossed species from chimpanzees to humans, the AIDS epidemic however, officially began on June 5, 1981
Christianity Etc › Re: Anyone Who Discards Gay People Doesn’t Have A Human Heart – Pope Francis by MuttleyLaff: 6:17am On Apr 21, 2019
Image123:
Of course, the have as godly heart. The human heart is wicked and deceitful.
The first half part sentence of your comment literally isnt even remotely understandable
Celebrities › Re: Obama Is Not The First Black American President by MuttleyLaff:
blackmaine:
George Washington, as many don’t know, was not the first President of the United States. The first President of the United States was one John Hanson, and he was a black man. Or it can be said that he had African genes.

Don’t go checking the encyclopedia for this, because you won’t find him there. He is one of those great men who are unfortunately lost to history. If you’re extremely lucky, you might actually find a brief mention of his name in some books.

During the formation of the United States of America, Maryland refused to sign this document until Virginia and New York ceded their western lands. The signing took place in 1781, and a President was needed to run the country. John Hanson was then chosen unanimously by Congress, which included George Washington. In fact, all the other potential candidates refused to run against John Hanson, as he was a key player in the revolution and an extremely influential member of Congress.

As the first President of the United States, Hanson had quite the shoes to fill. No one had ever been President and the role was not richly and adequately defined. His actions in office would set criteria for all future Presidents that will follow.He took office just as the Revolutionary War against Britain ended. And, almost immediately, the troops demanded to be paid for their services. As was to be expected after any long war like that, there were no funds and resources to pay the salaries.

As a result, the soldiers made threats to overthrow the new government and put Washington on the throne as a monarch.All the members of Congress ran for their lives and left John Hanson as the only one running the government. He managed somehow to calm the troops down and hold America together.

If he had failed, the government would have fallen, and everyone would have been bowing to King Washington as the troops proposed. In fact, Hanson sent 800 pounds of sterling silver through his brother Samuel Hanson to George Washington to provide the troops with shoes.As President, Hanson ordered all foreign troops off American soil, as well as the removal of all foreign flags. This was quite the feat, considering the fact that a lot of European countries had a stake in the United States.

Hanson established and created the Great Seal of the United States, which all Presidents have since been required to use on all official documents.

President Hanson went ahead to established the first Treasury Department, the first Secretary of War, and also the first Foreign Affairs Department. Lastly, he declared that the fourth Thursday of every November was to be Thanksgiving Day. And this still true till today.The Articles of the Confederation only allowed a President to serve a one-year term/tenure during any three-year period. So, Hanson actually accomplished quite a bit in such little time.

Six other presidents were elected after John Hanson. They were Elias Boudinot (1783), Thomas Mifflin (1784), Richard Henry Lee (1785), Nathan Gorman (1786), Arthur St. Clair (1787), and Cyrus Griffin (178- all prior to Washington taking office as president.

So, what happened? Why don’t most Americans and people of the world ever hear about the first seven Presidents of the United States?

Well, it’s quite simple – The Articles of Confederation didn’t work well. The individual states had too much power as was feared, and little or nothing could be agreed upon.A new doctrine needed to be written – something Americans now known as the Constitution. And that is where George Washington comes in.

George Washington was definitely not the first President of the United States, by principle. He was the first President of the United States under the Constitution that was later created, and which Americans follow today.

And the first seven Presidents are forgotten in history.
Nasa28:
This writeup is not true... Cos George Washington is actually the first president of United states of America.

He was actually the first president under the congress assembled.
Under the Articles of Confederation, the United States had no executive branch. The President of Congress was a ceremonial position within the Confederation Congress.
blackmaine:
Go and do your findings well bro, am not here to argue with you
blackmaine:
Some can read but cannot understand Why? Blockedbrains everywhere
iTearHerToto:
you are the blockedhead here.

"He is one of those great men who are unfortunately lost to history. If you’re extremely lucky, you might actually find a brief mention of his name in some books."

Nonsense and Glo's failed network angry
budaatum:
When we think of the President of the United States, many people do not realize that we are actually referring to presidents elected under the U.S. Constitution. Everybody knows that the first president in that sense was George Washington. But in fact the Articles of Confederation, the predecessor to the Constitution, also called for a president- albeit one with greatly diminished powers. Eight men were appointed to serve one year terms as president under the Articles of Confederation. In November 1781, John Hanson became the first President of the United States in Congress Assembled, under the Articles of Confederation.
The John Hanson Story
I remember when everybody back then were plesantly pleased and getting hard ons about having Obama as a first black president, and then watch Prince in 2009, confirm what I've already known, that there have been at least 6-7 other black presidents prior Obama being president, and this Prince, among other interesting and topical things said when he appeared on talk show host, Tavis Smiley's set, then years later, I heard RIP Dick Gregory's copper coin analysis advancing the fact that Abraham Lincoln is Black
Christianity Etc › Re: Anyone Who Discards Gay People Doesn’t Have A Human Heart – Pope Francis by MuttleyLaff: 3:48pm On Apr 19, 2019
Nahin oo
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Enoch Exposed!!!! by MuttleyLaff:
HenryDion:
It baffles me how grown ass folks still believe such fairytale, such ridiculousness, living their whole life trying to support something they had no proof off.

Anyone who believes that a 450ft giant once existed, or that a donkey once spoke need psychiatric evaluation.

Unfortunately, we are more concerned in building churches than psychiatric hospitals.

It is a shame!
It wasn't even a 450ft giant that once existed but the book actually said there were 450 ft born baby giants. Now if baby giants are 450ft high, I shudder to wonder how tall, fully grown and adult giants were then.

Talking about a one-off supernatural donkey speaking not again repeated event is quite different to tales by moonlight angels fairking human beings and producing babies that are 450ft tall. Ah-ha. Wetin now
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Enoch Exposed!!!! by MuttleyLaff:
HenryDion:
Sorry, but I couldn't read that crap you wrote there. I'm only commenting cause I saw 450 feet which you believe is ridiculous. But you believe that a donkey once talked right?

You believe that the sun once stood still? You believe that Noah was able to get over million species of animal in that his little boat?

What religion does is take your brain and lock you out of reasoning. You are too blinded for my liking.

Wake up!
I was expecting someone to behave like this, shoot from the hip, take and say things out of context.

C'mon baby giant that 450 feet high. Kilo de? And you are beefing me over that?

That donkey that once talked was a single exception to the rule supernatural thing that never again repeated itself.

About the sun once stood still and how Noah was able to get over million species of animal in that his little boat, you need to properly read the bible to understand the former and go learn about genus (i.e. genera in plural) to find out how Noah managed to pul off this extraordinary feat

Your understanding of what true, pure religion, that has no fault is and one that God approves, is at variance to what I know it to be nwanne HenryDion.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Enoch Exposed!!!! by MuttleyLaff:
elated177:
Duplicitous? I am just going to ignore that.
How and where did I quote you incorrectly?
"It is the one referenced in the New Testament by Peter and Jude, where they were denouncing it and funnily enough the heresy(ies) in the book

I couldnt believe what tall tale narrative I was reading that I had to chuck it aside because what I was reading just wasnt adding up together. No wonder Peter and Jude re-echoing Peter were among other things, condemning the Book of Enoch in their letter
"
- by MuttleyLaff: 7:38pm On Apr 16 2019


"Where did Peter and Jude denounce Enoch or the book of Enoch?"
- by elated177: 1:33pm On Apr 18 2019

Look at the two above inverted commas quotations above and compare what you wrote and how you quoted me.
1/ Do you see and read me saying Peter and Jude denounced the patriarch Enoch?
2/ Can you see now how you misrepresented what I typed?
I am very careful with my construct, wording and choice of words because of the concern not to be misrepresented or miscontrued but if it was just a coincidence and you werent being duplicitous, then I take it back, as no offense was intended by it and ask your pardon.

elated177:
Customer kwa! O nani customer, custom officer kwanu?
You have a very good sense of humour, just like me

elated177:
Jude 1-2 Jude, a servant of Yahushua the Messiah and brother of James, To those who have been called, who are loved in YHVH the Father and kept for Yahushua the Messiah: Mercy, peace and love be yours in abundance.

From the above, we can see that Jude addressed this letter to me, yes me. Not only me though, but to all the saints - all the called-out ones, the body of the Messiah - of yesteryears, today and the future.

His intention? Let us see:

Jude 3 Dear friends, although I was eager to write to you about the salvation we share, I felt compelled to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to YHVH's set-apart/holy people.

It is obvious that our brother Jude wrote this letter to warn me - and the other saints - about certain group people and their activities. What group of people and what is their modus operandi? Let us see:

Jude 4 For certain individuals whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. THEY ARE UNGODLY(UNRIGHTEOUS) PEOPLE, WHO PERVERT THE GRACE OF OUR GOD/ELOHIM INTO LICENCE FOR IMMORALITY AND DENY YAHUSHUA THE MESSIAH OUR ONLY SOVEREIGN AND LORD/MASTER.

We can see that 5-19 further enumerated the wicked activities and judgment of such wicked/lawless/unrighteous.
Thank you very much Sire.

So, elated177, if I would to summarise this in three to four words, would you agree and accept with me, that, it is about "warning" of "appearance" of "false teachers", "heresy(ies)", huh?

elated177:
Eheeh, before you yoke me together with jcross19, remember that you do not have the power to do that. I am elated177 and he is jcross19
Yeah, my bad, I know and sorry. jcross19 is a complete different kettle of fish altogether. All he wants to do, is sit on his hands, let others go about doing the heavy lifting for him, whilst he looks on and later on, waiting for same others to come with answers or information on a gold platter and spoon feed him like a baby with it.

elated177:
I have only read a few chapters of the book of Enoch - the book of Enoch 1. I will keep my views about the author for now. However, the fact that Jude made reference to it might give some credence to its authenticity
Please give some insight of what you read in it

"7:10Then they took wives, each choosing for himself; whom they began to approach, and with whom they cohabited; teaching them sorcery, incantations, and the dividing of roots and trees.
7:11And the women conceiving brought forth giants
7:12Whose stature was each three hundred cubits. These devoured all [which] the labor of men [produced]; until it became impossible to feed them;
"
- The Ethiopic version of the book of Enoch 7:10-12

"1And they took wives for themselves and everyone chose for himself one each. And they began to go into them and were promiscuous with them. And they taught them charms and spells, and they showed them the cutting of roots and trees.
2And they became pregnant and bore large giants. And their height was three thousand cubits.
"
- The Book of Enoch. Chapter 7:1-2

I'll tell you what, among in it, I read before I chucked the book aside as complete nasty bad bullshit and a waste of time, it is in the Ethiopic version of the book of Enoch 7:10-12, where it said the height of the born baby giants were three hundred cubits, that is the length of one and of a half football field pitch, whilst other versions like the The Book of Enoch, even said it's actually three thousand cubits hence making the born baby giants to be as high as a 45-story building. Haba! Wetin now?

elated177:
You already know, though you will not admit it, that I always give answers to valid Scriptural issues as surely as the Set-apart Spirit of YHVH Almighty, my Father in heaven, directs me to
Yes, I must admit, I respect you for at least making some effort at giving answers to the questions put here unlike someone like jcross19 we know, who doesnt bother at all. These things are give and take, you do your bit and I'll reciprocate by doing my bit too. A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle

elated177:
Stop dilly dallying and point out the inconsistencies in Jude's letter or admit that you are the one full of inconsistencies.
elated177, please tell, who the bible tells us will be doing the judging and whom the bible said, they will judge? You will see one glaring inconsistency from answering this question comparing your answer with what's in Jude 1:14-19, and that is in particular Jude 1:14-15 elated177

Funaki:
grin new player in the game. Still waiting for the 'big' exposition though.
jcross19 has only a hunger for knowledge, and that's all, unlike elated177, who has a hunger for knowledge and thirst for truth.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Enoch Exposed!!!! by MuttleyLaff:
jcross19:
that's what I have been asking him but he refused to give me an answer . am still waiting .
Do you see how elated177 is behaving as if someone duplicitous by incorrectly quoting me, erh jcross19? Please confirm the elated177 comment, is that what I typed or how I typed it.

elated177, customer mi, daada ni, I am going to ask you the same question that, I at the very onset asked jcross19, please tell me, in your understanding, what is the purpose of that Jude letter wrote, what was Jude's concern and warning about in the letter?

I detect that you and jcross19, dont see what Jude did there in Jude 1:14-19, and that is in particular me talking about and referring to Jude 1:14-15. The red flag should have raised to warn you, if you had being in the spirit and so spotted the inconsistence, there in Jude 1:14-15

Also to your understanding and belief, who is the author of the book of Enoch?

Please don't take after jcross19 bad habit of not wanting give answers to questions.

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