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Akdegreat:
Apparently, there's nothing like an all loving and benevolent God.
Love is human idea.

Love actually is God, it really is a God idea. Do you know that the Greeks understood and defined love in at the most nine different ways and I can add one more with "tough love" to make it ten

Amagite:
Davido and his lover Chioma Rowland, have been on baecation in Dubai, and he has been spoiling her with luxury gift items.

He shared a video of himself buying her another expensive bracelet in a Dubai and said;

"Ah! Money good o. If I no get money like this, you no go dey laugh with me"

UrbanExotica:
Lies it's the white man he was referring to not chioma

Xinzu:
You idiots commenting on this dumb post are fools along with the OP. I'm sure many of you don't use Instagram. Davido was referring to the white dude who sold the jewelry to them, not chioma. But as usual, gullible baffoons on this forum will swallow it hook-line-and sinker.

What do you expect from bad belle pipul to write or type nau? Jealousy is a terrible disease. Haters will always throw stones at anything and/or anybody that shines

IAmSabrina:
You can start by shift+deleting yourself from my mentions if you have nothing else relevant to say as regards the topic rather than pointless strawmanning, ad hominems & thought-terminating cliches.

Good riddance to bad rubbish. Abi, to raise peniis nobi by force nau

petra1:
False christ are for the Jews during the coming tribulation. By the time the anti christ turns against them . They will realise that jesus whom they killed was and us the christ. They will seek him but false christ will show up at different places .

Mar 13:21 — Mar 13:22
And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not: For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.

The Jews They are the ones that will be needing a messiah. During that tribulation. So this is not applicable to the church. The church would have been captured. Besides TB has never claimed to be Christ. False christ will claim to be the messiah . Tb rather confesses Jesus as Lord. Let's lay aside all these sentiments and dwell on bible facts

"⁹This man (i.e. the lawless one) will come to do the work of Satan with counterfeit power and signs and miracles.
¹⁰He will use every kind of evil deception to fool those on their way to destruction, because they refuse to love and accept the truth that would save them. "
- 2 Thessalonians 2:9-10

"²²Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?
²³“And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!"
- Matthew 7:22-23

Petra1 look back at all you wrote above. Let's lay aside all these sentiments and dwell on bible facts like the 2 Thessalonians 2:9-10 and Matthew 7:22-23 above, and Revelation 2:9b, Revelation 3:9 or 2 Corinthians 11:14-15 below.

Petra1, cant you see that all kinds of people confess Jesus as Lord and use Jesus' name? Cant you see that the early believers never worshipped in synagogues? Cant you see that it was the unbelieving Jews that worshipped in synagogues whilst the early believers met in homes.

Revelation 2:9b states that:
"I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan."

Or is it Revelation 3:9, we should mention, that says:
"Note this: I will make those from the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews and are not, but are lying--I will make them come and bow down at your feet, and they will know that I have loved you."

Petra1, TB Joshua’s set-up, calls itself synagogue, but then in order to keep up a good appearance, look genuine and legitimate, appends the word "church", making itself: The synagogue, Church Of All Nations (i.e. SCOAN). Hmmm, how convenient and be masquerading as servants of righteousness

"¹⁴And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.
¹⁵It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness.
Their end will correspond to their actions."
- 2 Corinthians 11:14-15

TB is a shaman, a false prophet and masquerading as a servant of righteousness, but you and shadeyinka are the last to know about it and the "synagogue of Satan"

advocate666:
Laughable that you called me a liar but the scripture you quoted actually validated all my points.

Also don't be afraid to use His name. He is not like Yahweh's son that kicks your knee if you call his name.

I know, you and Satan, your head honcho, know the scriptures very well, but just like to give misleading, ill-informed and deceptive accounts of it

IAmSabrina:
The butthurt & ad hominem is powerful in this one. .

Pray, clown, point out anywhere i made any snide remarks about your god before you came in, with your unders riding up and mucus all over your face, crying a river. That you can't think of a reason to justify the actions of your god is no one's fault but yours. So put a pacifier in it if you have nothing else to say, please for your sake!

If she doesn't remember when nor know where she denigrated God with her snide remarks, what can I say or do more

Martinez39:
Lol. This height of it all. Mr. Man, IAmSabrina and I are not saying god needs to answer to us or that he owes us any explanation. We are simply asking questions that bring to light the irrationality of the excuse "god doesn't heal anyone, doctors and nurses are god's only provision for healing"? in addition to why god doesn't make his raw power available for healing. Do you have any reasonable answer or not?

Unlike you, we ask questions instead of overlooking the irrationalities and inconsistencies of god with the nonsensical excuse "... God's prerogative to do thinks the way and manner He decides to. He doesn't answer to either of youse. He doesn't own either of youse an explanation for how He lets things happen or not happen on earth." To do such is to surrender to stuρidity.

Why are you asking for excuses then, hmm? What's with medical science being as provision for healing by God about then if not fishing for excuses, huh?

I've often and regularly got healed of one thing or the other without doctors or nurses getting involved.

I have never made excuses for God and that is because it is unnecessary to make excuses for Him. God does what God wants and/or needs to do. Stop poking noses into other people's business and especially when it's something you don't know or have a clue about

IAmSabrina:
Suffice it to say that in less than two pages, you've already run out of excuses for your god and now you're tagging me a "prideful & mouthy earthling" for pointing out a gross contradiction in your god's nature. What else is new with you folks?

It is obvious the truth is a bitter pill to swallow for you. God has no need for anyone to make excuses for Him. You are prideful and with a big mouth for size for that matter. What you achieved, what have you created and/or done in life, for you to have the audacity to denigrate God, huh? Ordinary finger nail, you can't create, the plank in your eye is still, yet you have the cheek to want to be making snide remarks about God. You that, in five minutes times, God can decide from you His breath back and just like you suddenly become history. Just thank God for His tolerance nature, others if they were God, won't be that tolerant with you and Martinez39

IAmSabrina:
Are you suggesting that from the beginning of time, God couldn't have simply created a universe with free will & no evil?

Martinez39:
God made those rules and no one can question him if he decides to break these rules to intervene for a benevolent cause. Who sent him to make these rules? Who compels him to keep them? Even he breaks the rules for any reason, good or bad, no one can question him since he is god.

Therefore, I ask, what's preventing him for pointing out the cures to lethal illnesses or making available his raw power? You will need better excuses.

Cc. IAmSabrina

It's about time both you guys begin to learn that it is God's prerogative to do things the way and manner He decides to. He doesn't answer to either of youse. He doesn't own either of youse an explanation for how He lets things happen or not happen on earth. It is why God is God and you and Martinez39 are the prideful, mouthy earthling quick to give the lips

IAmSabrina:
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@bolded no one is teaching God anything. I just find it odd that even humans can sometimes be more moral than an omnibenevolent deity.

@italics I dont think you fully appreciate the contradiction on display here . The christian God is supposedly omnibenevolent I.E possessing unlimited goodness. If God can permit suffering and hardship and sickness in the world he created, then we have eliminate omnibenevolence from his resume,.... possibly even omnipotence too. Saying God will just sit back, kick up his feet in the air and watch man fail again and again (with casualties mind you) is a glaring contradiction

You might have a case and be permitted to say all that, only and if only God isn't in control, and still ever on top of things and everyone. Rules have being set in place and these rules have to be abide by. This is the way the cookie crumbles, especially if man wanted to do things his way and the highway. It doesn't affect God's omnibenevolence nor Omnipotence in any shape or form

IAmSabrina:
Instead of waiting, why can't the supposedly omnibenevolent God, after witnessing the distressing situation, simply direct man to the seed of the oak tree instead of watching man fail after every attempt?

I'm sorry but i fail to understand how an all-loving God would, in the first place, permit the existence of evil in a world he created.

I guess, you are all wise up, you want to teach God how best to do His work, yeah?
Have you ever heard of the saying, as you lay your bed so lie in it, huh? Well this is man's lot, you can't have your cake and eat it.

Man doesn't need directing, the healing is in the seed, and because he already knows that, he just and merely has to keep on chipping and digging away until he hits water and stumble on the elixir(s)

IAmSabrina:
If i may ask, what is God waiting for man to do? And how can man be holding God down. God is limitless!

Reach the potentials God has already put in him. Same way there is a furniture etcetera in a seed of oak tree, waiting for man to bring out the chair, bed etcetera in the seed.

GreatResearcher:
SCIENCE will admit when it is wrong.
RELIGION will kill to prove it is right.

IAmSabrina:
Its funny how true this is

It actually is funny that true and pure religion that has no faults, isn't what both you think it is

IAmSabrina:
Is man not trying his best? Meanwhile, what is God (the creator of the earth) doing about it?

Man is doing and trying his best, kudos to man but more obviously can be done.

God is doing a waiting on man. Man is holding God back and down. It's down to man. Wasn't it man who wanted to know, who desired knowledge? Well keep on working at man, the world awaits your discoveries and findings

Martinez39:
Are you minding them? They are christians because they lack the critical reasoning ability and honesty to break free from a much loved indoctrination.

Bunkum

Martinez39:
More and more nonsense. While man is working tirelessly to find the cure for cancer and AIDS, people all over the world are dying because god wants them to unravel the cures he hide in nature. He watches them die when he could have simply pointed out the cure or provided his healing power. How logical. Good day.

The ranting and raving of someone banging his head against a brickwall. You keep on forgetting that the earth was given off to man and so it is man's responsibilty to look after the earth, take care of the earth, find correct solutions to problem and/or ills plaguing earth. This blaming culture, looking at someone to point the finger at except for man, has to stop. We wouldnt be in this situation, if in the first place, man didnt foxtrot uniform charlie kilo up.

Martinez39:
I am in need of more excuses. MuttleyLaff, is that all you've got? jesusjnr/jesusjnr2, Anas09, Paxonel, Originalkalokalo, shadeyinka etc. won't you come and defend your god?

Make up your mind, I thought you earlier said a good day adios to me

IAmSabrina:
True.
But is medicine Yahweh's only provision for healing? Afterall, what i described is simply prehistoric medicine.

"Yes, medical science is one of the avenues and/or mechanisms for healing, it isnt an only provision."
- by MuttlelyLaff: 7:26am On Apr 12 2019

Martinez39:
There is nothing you will not do to defend your god. How do you know everything needed to heal man is in a seed? Where is your evidence for this or did just assume? Let's assume that the cure for HIV and AIDS are in a seed, why hasn't god informed people on what that seed is? Isn't that better than watching people suffer and die because they've not been able to identify the plant?

If you knew what the seed was, won't you inform others? If yes then your moral compass is greater than that of your god? Also, don't accuse people of not "stepping up" because scientists have spent hours and billions of dollars researching the cure to various incurable. Is it logical for god to withhold such life saving information and watch people suffer and die because man hasn't "stepped up"? Does it make sense for him provide such obscure means of healing when he could have simply pointed out the healing seeds? Even with our trial and error method of testing suspected medicinal seeds, people lost their lives by ingesting the wrong plants.

You have made no sense instead you have indirectly shown your god to be either dull to make rational decisions or psychopathic.

All these ranting and raving upandan the place are uncalled for nwanne. Nwanne every healing has been given, God is waiting on man to unravel and find each and every one of them. Nobody scoops petrol off the ground surface, nobody picks up gold from the ground surface, nobody scoops up pearls from the ocean surfaces, nobody picks up coal and diamonds from the ground surface. Everything comes with an effort, perseverance and commitment. This much you surely do know Martinez39

IAmSabrina:
You're very welcome

I wish Martinez39 is just as objective as you've just behaved, giving a truthful, sincere and honest observation. I can bet the first furniture until they got the knack of it, came about from a process of trial and error. They over time learnt which wood works for it and which didnt. Chairs, beds, wooden scaffolds etcetera didnt just abracadabra pop out in front of them

IAmSabrina:
If you're talking of ancient times, a lot of potions and mixtures of multiple ingredients were used as cure for diseases. Then again it was mostly a trial and error process. Herbalists/pharmacists learnt over time which ingredients worked and which didn't

Thank you for your objective, truthful, sincere and honest contribution

Uyi168:

Your snapshot narrative is skewed and distorted in a way that only can be regarded as inaccurate, unfair and misleading.

Uyi168 do you know the potential of an acorn oaknut seed, erh?
In that acorn oaknut seed, are furnitures for a home, furnitures, like beds to sleep in, chairs or settees to sit and relax in, dinning tables to eat on, from it, is the scaffolding planks for building a home, in that seed, is a tree, that birds will build nests in, is wood to make coffins with, you get the drift as the list goes on

Everything needed on earth is in a seed. God has not withheld, in fact God made all healing available, it is not God to blame, if man has not step up to the plate on time to unearth and discover things for healing, just as bacteriologist Alan Fleming, a believer, eventally did or Louis Pasteur, another believer, who sometimes is famously called the father of microbiology. He was the first to prove that germs make us sick.

Martinez39:
What are the other options?

Before medical science how were great great great grandfather and grandma Martinez39 healed?

advocate666:
I think you misunderstand Yahweh and are looking at him through the prism of the current crop of retards calling themselves christians.

Yahweh doesn't cure. He inflicts.

Yahweh created diseases, illnesses, pestillence and all types of turturing as punishment for either the Isrealites that refused to obey him or those that he deemed enemies of his people. You can see numerous examples of this in the scripture.

Now what these christians do it they take the lies of Yahweh literally. Yahweh said he heals but he never healed anybody that naturally contracted any disease. He has no such powers. His powers of healing was restricted by the council of Elohim to heal only those afflictions that he himself caused.

That was why he was able to heal Job whose diseases he caused.

"He said, "If you will listen carefully to the LORD your God and do what he considers right, if you pay attention to his commands and obey all his laws, I will never make you suffer any of the diseases I made the Egyptians suffer, because I am the LORD, who heals you.""
- Exodus 15:26

You are only absolutely right about the less than 1% truth thing you said, everything else you mentioned, just as and/or like, the most important person or thing in your life does, is making up misleading, ill-informed and deceptive stories.

Contrary to the misleading, ill-informed and deceptive stories, diseases, illnesses, pestillence etcetera are and/or were not created by God. They are emergent phenomena that came about since the ground was cursed because of Adam eating of the fruit off the forbidden tree. If Jesus heals spiritually and physically, what more proof of God healing, does anyone need more about the power of God to heal, huh?

Now, go ask your head honcho to tell and you learn from him, about how sin got to be found him.

Martinez39:
I was looking at it from the christian perspective. If they claim god is all powerful, perfect and all loving and he heals, would it make sense for them to say that medical science is Yahweh's only provision for healing?

Yes, medical science is one of the avenues and/or mechanisms for healing, it isnt an only provision.

advocate666:
Fear don catch junor jesus. Very soon he will start crying eloi eloi lama sabachthani

You know you dont even know what "Eloi Eloi lama sabachthani" means

shadeyinka:
No offense at all.
Shalom unto you

"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God."
- Matthew 5:9

shadeyinka:
I hear you.
Your nicest post in a long while!

Forgive me, if I ever have come across has offending you in the past. I am sorry, just that my bark is worse than my bite. Truth be told, I hardly and rarely bite. There is nothing personal, it just so happens, that I am prone to calling a spade a spade, and not a fork. I say things as they are and without mincing words sometimes. There are no sacred cows and I dont mind whose ox is gored, when and/or if things need to be said the way they are, especially when heavyweights and loyal opposition insufferable atheists are involved

GreatResearcher:
if u want to get confused, read d bible.

I, along with quite a lot of others, read the Bible on a regular basis, and arent the least confused nwanne. Do you by any chance, read the Bible upside own?

shadeyinka:
Nothing!
Except that I've learnt to read you

It was the same with me about Paul.

Ah I remember, I used to hate Paul, I used to say, who does Paul think he is, who the foxtrot uniform charlie kilo is Paul, just like luvmijeje I used to look at Paul and read his epistle using the wrong end of the telescope but then, when I learned that Paul has a peculiar way and/or style of writing, everything changed. My whole perpective about Paul changed after that epiphany. Just like Peter, I learned the hard way, that Paul's comments are hard to understand, and those who are ignorant and unstable have twisted his letters to mean something quite different, just as they do with other parts of the Bible still and today.

Shepherd00:
You said I shd apologize to you for smearing you. You deny that you so not support Homosexuality. So here we are

Pls do tell how homosexuality can be practice the right way? And which way is the wrong way?

And, homosexuality okay with Jehovah or another God? because if we were to follow his Commandments to the letter, you guys should be stoned to death so, no, I wld ve to be another God.

So Jehovah loves what is detestable to Him abi?
"'Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.

He called it abomination and said anyone who does it shd be killed.
"'If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable.
They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads

Is this clear enough that you support Homosexuality?

Not quite an accurate representation and/or nor a true summation of me concerning homosexuality Shepherd00.

Shepherd00, you see, I dare to tell the truth, but you prefer to be moderate in announcing the truth about me, hence you resorting to present this half-truth. Shepherd00, please dont you realise that this half truth you've spun about me, is a great lie and that half truths are the most cowardly of lies?

You are biting more than you can chew and even stomach Shepherd00

Kayouzka:
Those were the laws of Moses. Things as changed learn to love period. Heaven would be full of surprises sexuality would not take you there holiness, lifestyle or what have you, only your ability to love yourself neighbor

You are almost on point with this comment. God bless you real good brother for understanding the word enough to rightly divide and accurately handle the word of the truth.

Shepherd00:
Funny character. Keep you with the lies. Keep allowing men bend you over and think God does not care.

Homosexuals are AntiChrist recruits.

Shepherd00, I deliberately held back not quickly responding to all your taunting because I wanted you to have days upon when to think deeply and carefully about all you've typed and your claiming that I support Homosexuality

Shepherd00, permit me to take the liberty now, to ask you two or so, sincere and honest straightforward easy questions please:
1/ If one of your kids, grandkids, nephews and/or nieces confide in you to having sexual attraction to only another of same sex as them, would you see the person as being abhorrent and be worse than a piece of junk?
2/ Then following up with #1 above, maybe say, same one of your kids, grandkids, nephews and/or nieces confides in you, that they are involved with an easy going, ordinary consenting adult and enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour, would you respond to the person that they are worse than a piece of junk and disgusting?
3/ Kindly in a way that a two year old can understand, and this is particularly, if at all, you really do know, tell and explain to us, the reason why, God specifically, called it being an abomination to Him and the cause behind why He said, thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind is abomination.

shadeyinka:
....not one bit disappointed in you!

What is this supposed to mean please?

GreatResearcher:
sorry. I thhot a snake communicated with a woman.. Maybe Lion did.

TVSA:
it is an allegory, it is less absurd that way

Your friend, GreatResearcher is getting more confused than a chameleon that landed inside a packet of skittles

shadeyinka:
Sorry for offending you.

Nwanne keep the sorry for yourself because 10 billions of you can never offend me

shadeyinka:
Can you please share one or two authentic Deliverances here for atheists to see and learn.

To what end nwanne? For what purpose huh? Now you are beginning to behave nwanne, as if you are not familiar with ending part of the parable of the rich man and Lazarus.

shadeyinka:
The fact that I used scoan video is because it is readily available. The thread is NOT designed to promote any man of God or ministry.

I am happy at least that some of the atheists here on NL can confirm that something weird happens during deliverance season. They can't seem to agree however that it is demons. At least, they are closer to my goal. They are forced to think

I pray that God will continue to speak to them even when the thread expires.

Shalom.

Nwanne, did anyone force Nicodemus before he came, under the cloak of darkness, to acknowledge who Jesus is and admit to recognising the demonstration of the power God by Jesus, by saying: "we know that you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the signs you are doing if God were not with him"

Nwanne, you cant force things, you cant hurry up things, you cant force anything on nobagar, you cant force the working of the Holy Spirit. It is only the Holy Spirit that can convict of truth nwanne. It is the Holy Spirit's work to convict, it's up to God to ultimately judge, its yours and my work to love

GreatResearcher:
What am I?

Never has there ever being a talking snake anywhere. Get your facts right next time and stop wasting our please

The beast had many heads, it wasnt a four headed monster, are you reading your version of the bible ni?

kkins25:
Scientific?? Ohh so now can can be observed using scientific parameters?? We can only philosophies dear sir.

You will have to rephrase this because I am not understanding what you typed

kkins25:
Lets start with this..
God is depicted to exist in three modes viz; Father, son and holy spirit.

Correction, God has manifested Himself, in those three modes

kkins25:
Q1) When God exist as the son, what happens to the other modes?

Unlike you and I, it is no biggie for God, to concurrently and/or simultaneously exist as Son

kkins25:
Q2) Are all members of the God head co-equal and co-eternal?

Of course, they are. Are all members of your body co equal or not ni?

kkins25:
The Christian tenet is that: God is not the son not the holy spirit however the three is God. (we have to be careful with English here because if we use "are" then we imply that the three are different monads ie three different intelligentia)

Correction, God is the Son, the Son is God, the Holy Spirit is God

kkins25:
Q3) what the deuce those this even mean? "The father is God(but not the son nor holy spirit), the son is God(but not the other two), the holy spirit is God(but not the other two)

God did not become a Father, before Jesus was begotten

kkins25:
Q4) can God experience time?

God can be in time and out of time