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kullozone:
nothing to say.
I wasted my time reading your yeye posts smiley

You could have in one sentence, at the least, say all what you found to be "yeye" in the posts now.

jcross19:
ahahahahahah ahahah am laughing in Swahili funny !!! you started this argument yourself asked you a question you did not answer me rather than asking me a question now I don't know the answer to your question okay tell me the answer to clear my doubt. any answer you give will effect on the book of Jude .

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jcross19:
can you just show me in the bible where peter and James condemned it . please I need to know.

jcross19:
then book of Jude1 vs 15- 19 quoted from such book meaning Jude is a counterfeit right?

MuttleyLaff:
You need to calm yourself down because I typed: "Peter and Jude, where they were denouncing it and funnily enough the heresy(ies) in the book" and never talked about any Peter and James condemned it please

You can find Peter, in 2 Peter 2:1-3 talking to warn about made up stories to secretly introduce destructive heresies and find Peter further, in 2 Peter 2:15-16, taking the example of Balaam (i.e. from Numbers 22-24) to talk about those saying things that God hadnt sanctioned or authored. I can go on more, but I am curious of the reason why you asked and questioning the motive behind you asking to be shown. Is it because you believe in the Book of Enoch ni?

The only counterfeit is the Book of Enoch and not Jude. I can detect that you dont see what Jude did there in Jude 1:14-19, and that is in particular to Jude 1:14-15. The red flag should have raised to warn you, if you had being in the spirit and so spotted the inconsistence there in Jude 1:14-15

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jcross19:
Jude quoted from the same in jude1vs 14 relating the Enoch to adam even calling him a prophet and you are here saying another thing ? in verse 15 Jude talks what the Holy one is coming down to do in reference to that verse 14 ooh . now why did Jude quoted from fake source even consolidated with reference to Adam. well bible is just like a view you can see anything you wish to see.

MuttleyLaff:
Until you calm down or go have a cold water shower, the more you look, the less you'll see.

As I earlier said, don't you see the inconsistency in Jude 1:14-15 showing up in there, like a red throbbing sore thumb?

Please tell me, in your understanding, what is the purpose of that Jude letter, what is Jude's concern and bone of contention in it jcross19

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jcross19:
can you explain it to me let me see! Jude don't need to quote such book before he can condemn the book
if Jude referred to him as a prophet and 7th to Adam, we all know that first world was destroyed so how did this book survive ? that's should be the main concern why did Jude quoted from it.

MuttleyLaff:
You really need the chill pill jcross19.

How many times have you read the Book of Enoch and when was the last time you read it?

Now, please type in here, what 1 Enoch 1:9 says jcross19

I earlier told you, to please, tell me, in your understanding, what is the purpose of that Jude letter, what is Jude's concern and bone of contention in it jcross19? But you ignored it, only to then come to say "Jude don't need to quote such book before he can condemn the book" Then my question that you didn't answer, you coyly now slide it back at me.

Stop behaving like a Bible illiterate and going about this blindly please.

jcross19:
me I don't know, you tell me.

MuttleyLaff:
What don't you know because I've asked you so many questions that you've decided to refuse to give answers to.

Also, where is the please type in here, what 1 Enoch 1:9 says, the jcross19 request, I earlier asked you, huh?

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MuttleyLaff:
Thank you for helping jcross19 out, lifting up 1 Enoch 1:9 that was too heavy for him to lift up here.

I know you have some interest in all this, as you wouldn't have assisted jcross19 if you didn't have an interest, so what's your interest and/or stance in the whole matter OpenYourEyes1?

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jcross19:
and please tell me what you see that I don't to clear my doubt.

jcross19:
you have not made any valid point here. why did Jude refer him as a prophet at the same time as an historical Enoch that's my question if the book is not authentic.

MuttleyLaff:
Maybe it's because you are behaving like a Bible illiterate and you are afraid of doing heavy lifting yourself

OK, let's do it this way.

jcross19 please state here who the Bible said will judge and whom they will be judging, thanks?

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jcross19:
you are just funny!! Enoch is talking heresy why would Jude did the same that's my concern here so that I can be able to know the genuine of the source of Enoch.

MuttleyLaff:
Can you see who really is being funny here?

Another the latest that you again have decided to ignore, is the, jcross19 please state here who the Bible said will judge and whom they will be judging, thanks?

At least, we now know, courtesy of OpenYourEyes1 what 1 Enoch 1:9 says, that Jude and Peter referenced from in their letters. If not for OpenYourEyes1 that came to the rescue, you aren't prepared to lift a finger, everything has to be done for your lazy bones self.

Try for size, answer my last question request now, if not you'll see whether or not this book written after over 4000 years of Enoch passing is a hoax or not

Do you remember me first telling you:
Please tell me, in your understanding, what is the purpose of that Jude letter, what is Jude's concern and bone of contention in it jcross19

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jcross19:
you claimed you know it then show it to me you refused.

you keep on repeating the same thing. point the hoax out basic. my own issue is that why did Jude quote from the book of hoax is either something is wrong with the book of Jude and if not tell me what you see.

jcross19:
you have an understanding problem,is talking to you.

MuttleyLaff:
You are behaving like a Bible illiterate, answer questions, you won't. I don't know what you are afraid of answering questions or what is scaring you.

Big heavyweight like you, rather prefers to be spoon-fed and for someone else do the heavy lifting for you. I am sorry, it doesn't work like that Mr Bigshot. I didn't learn that way.

Answer the questions as put to you and stop looking for fast track straight to the answer handed on a platter of gold information.

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jcross19:
ahahahahahah ahahah am laughing in Swahili funny !!! you started this argument yourself asked you a question you did not answer me rather than asking me a question now I don't know the answer to your question okay tell me the answer to clear my doubt. any answer you give will effect on the book of Jude .

You are very good and adept at prevarication.

Not a single question addressed by you nor have you given an answer to any question at you, instead you want things given to you on a platter of gold without lifting a finger himself. Maybe I should have come tuck you into bed tonight, after I had spoon fed you, right?

My friend listen, if you cant answer easy simple and straightforward questions, then guess what, you are on a long thing and will stew for a very long time too without getting anything out and/or from me.

I know what I bring to the table, and guess what too, I am not afraid to eat alone and I didn't learn from being spoon fed

Funaki:
when you have had some unnecessary tortuous argument with people before on nairaland

this guy is good

I'm following this argument o, let's see the conclusion

The guy is good at prevarication.

Not a single question addressed by him nor has he given an answer to any question at him, instead he wants things given to him on a platter of gold without lifting a finger himself. Maybe I should come tuck him into bed tonight.

jcross19:
you claimed you know it then show it to me you refused.

you keep on repeating the same thing. point the hoax out basic. my own issue is that why did Jude quote from the book of hoax is either something is wrong with the book of Jude and if not tell me what you see.

jcross19:
you have an understanding problem,is talking to you.

You are behaving like a Bible illiterate, answer questions, you won't. I don't know what you are afraid of answering questions or what is scaring you.

Big heavyweight like you, rather prefers to be spoon-fed and for someone else do the heavy lifting for you. I am sorry, it doesn't work like that Mr Bigshot. I didn't learn that way.

Answer the questions as put to you and stop looking for fast track straight to the answer handed on a platter of gold information.

OpenYourEyes1:
It's an interesting Book. Whether or not it is true, only GOD knows. .
Am still trying to see if the book contradicts all the other books in the Bible. haven't found anything yet

There is nothing interesting at all in it. OK give me a few examples of the interesting things in it OpenYourEyes1 please?

So you are saying you don't spot and see the contradiction in 1 Enoch 1:9 and Jude 1:14-15 that references it, hmm?

OK, I will ask you the same question I earlier asked jcross19, which he avoided responding to. Please OpenYourEyes1, state here who the Bible said will judge and whom they will be judging, thanks?

Make sure your eyes are really open just as your moniker says.

TVSA:
sorry bro, sometimes, you just let some things slide

The guy hasn't answered a single question. He slides past questions without answering them, dodges and ignores every question asked him.

jcross19:
you are just funny!! Enoch is talking heresy why would Jude did the same that's my concern here so that I can be able to know the genuine of the source of Enoch.

Can you see who really is being funny here?

Another the latest that you again have decided to ignore, is the, jcross19 please state here who the Bible said will judge and whom they will be judging, thanks?

At least, we now know, courtesy of OpenYourEyes1 what 1 Enoch 1:9 says, that Jude and Peter referenced from in their letters. If not for OpenYourEyes1 that came to the rescue, you aren't prepared to lift a finger, everything has to be done for your lazy bones self.

Try for size, answer my last question request now, if not you'll see whether or not this book written after over 4000 years of Enoch passing is a hoax or not

Do you remember me first telling you:
Please tell me, in your understanding, what is the purpose of that Jude letter, what is Jude's concern and bone of contention in it jcross19?

jcross19:
and please tell me what you see that I don't to clear my doubt.

jcross19:
you have not made any valid point here. why did Jude refer him as a prophet at the same time as an historical Enoch that's my question if the book is not authentic.

Maybe it's because you are behaving like a Bible illiterate and you are afraid of doing heavy lifting yourself

OK, let's do it this way.

jcross19 please state here who the Bible said will judge and whom they will be judging, thanks?

OpenYourEyes1:
Jude 1:14-15 :
"And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these [men], saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him."

Compare this with Enoch 1:9,:

"And behold! He cometh with ten thousands of His holy ones To execute judgement upon all, And to destroy all the ungodly: And to convict all flesh Of all the works of their ungodliness which they have ungodly committed, And of all the hard things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him"

Thank you for helping jcross19 out, lifting up 1 Enoch 1:9 that was too heavy for him to lift up here.

I know you have some interest in all this, as you wouldn't have assisted jcross19 if you didn't have an interest, so what's your interest and/or stance in the whole matter OpenYourEyes1?

jcross19:
me I don't know, you tell me.

What don't you know because I've asked you so many questions that you've decided to refuse to give answers to.

Also where is the please type in here, what 1 Enoch 1:9 says jcross19 request I earlier asked you, huh?

jcross19:
can you explain it to me let me see! Jude don't need to quote such book before he can condemn the book
if Jude referred to him as a prophet and 7th to Adam, we all know that first world was destroyed so how did this book survive ? that's should be the main concern why did Jude quoted from it.

You really need the chill pill jcross19.

How many times have you read the Book of Enoch and when was the last time you read it?

Now, please type in here, what 1 Enoch 1:9 says jcross19

I earlier told you, to please, tell me, in your understanding, what is the purpose of that Jude letter, what is Jude's concern and bone of contention in it jcross19? But you ignored it, only to then come to say "Jude don't need to quote such book before he can condemn the book" Then my question that you didn't answer, you coyly now slide it back at me.

Stop behaving like a Bible illiterate and going about this blindly please.

jcross19:
Jude quoted from the same in jude1vs 14 relating the Enoch to adam even calling him a prophet and you are here saying another thing ? in verse 15 Jude talks what the Holy one is coming down to do in reference to that verse 14 ooh . now why did Jude quoted from fake source even consolidated with reference to Adam. well bible is just like a view you can see anything you wish to see.

Until you calm down or go have a cold water shower, the more you look, the less you'll see.

As I earlier said, don't you see the inconsistency in Jude 1:14-15 showing up in there, like a red throbbing sore thumb?

Please tell me, in your understanding, what is the purpose of that Jude letter, what is Jude's concern and bone of contention in it jcross19?

Agrogbeide:
Hey bro. How's you?
To be frank and sincere I literally understand every statement you have made here especially that part of Luke and James you quoted.

Jesus, even said, not all who say Lord, Lord, will enter the Kingdom, didnt He?

Agrogbeide:
You highlighted where I said "based on my current understanding about the book of Enoch it is not heretical" and that's very true of me. To be sincere I have read that book once and maybe that's the reason I didn't observe the "SNAKE BENEATH THE BEAUTIFUL CARPET."

I see you had high hopes of the Book of Enoch, have you ever heard the saying "keep your grass cut short, to see the snakes"

Reading the book of Enoch will make a true born again believer retch, convulse and vomit because what is being read, the fanciful and incredulous stories, wouldnt settle in the stomach.

Agrogbeide:
With this explanations you have given I will sit down and study the book of Enoch again for better understanding. I have downloaded a single volume of the 3 different book of Enoch and I pray the Holy Spirit guide and comfort me as I go through it.
That question you asked at the end of your comment is one of the lamp I will used in my cross examination of the book of Enoch. And to the answer "DEMONS ARE HERETICAL OR EVIL EVEN IF THEY CLAIM TO KNOW THE LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST.
Thank you.
God bless you.

Nwanne, I am joyful, thanks for asking.

Read the First Book of Enoch, otherwise known as the Ethiopian Book of Enoch. It is the one that is referenced in the New Testament by Peter and Jude, and where they both were denouncing the book and funnily enough the heresy(ies) in it, propagated by some dubious early first century believers

jcross19:
can you just show me in the bible where peter and James condemned it . please I need to know.

You need to calm yourself down because I typed: "Peter and Jude, where they were denouncing it and funnily enough the heresy(ies) in the book" and never talked about any Peter and James condemned it please

You can find Peter, in 2 Peter 2:1-3 talking to warn about made up stories to secretly introduce destructive heresies and find Peter further, in 2 Peter 2:15-16, taking the example of Balaam (i.e. from Numbers 22-24) to talk about those saying things that God hadnt sanctioned or authored. I can go on more, but I am curious of the reason why you asked and questioning the motive behind you asking to be shown. Is it because you believe in the Book of Enoch ni?

jcross19:
then book of Jude1 vs 15- 19 quoted from such book meaning Jude is a counterfeit right?

The only counterfeit is the Book of Enoch and not Jude. I can detect that you dont see what Jude did there in Jude 1:14-19, and that is in particular to Jude 1:14-15. The red flag should have raised to warn you, if you had being in the spirit and so spotted the inconsistence there in Jude 1:14-15

PAGAN9JA:
If hijabs and crucifixs can be allowed into examinations, then so should Traditionalist articles of faith.

What is good for the goose is good for the gander. I am sorry for your pains, the extreme pains and all.

HappyPagan:
You drive round PH and you see his ugly face everywhere, with those really silly quotes his faithfools love to lap up.

You need understanding to be outstanding
A Wordless Christian is a worthless Christian wisdom, only Christ could have revealed this..


Funny thing is, I'm yet to see 'Jesus' written on any of his billboards. I think he is selling himself, not the Gospel. Where is Jesus to save the religion he died for from this tricky Satans?

ThothHermes

advocate666:
If Mary was alive today, she would join the meetoo movement

Big lie, she would give the Me Too movement a wide berth as she has no reason on her side or personal, to be part of or with them

advocate666:
All these so you can defend your silent but foolish child jesus.

Even Mary got tired of him. She had other kids to take care of.

Next time your mama speaks to you, address her as "woman".

Well the apple doesnt fall far from the tree.
Even your head honcho Satan, got confused and always have everything mixed up, so I am not surprised you are.

Why should I want to address my mama of blessed and sweet memory as "woman", if not jokingly or for fun, besides I am not Jesus to be doing that.

lilwetdick:
this will not be an economy kick starter rather an avenue for corrupt rich people to launder money. You will be suprised that most of the rich guy might have bought the property before construction.

blank:
Are you speaking facts? Or what you think? They are not responsible for creating or enforcing AML laws. That's the govt's job. They only need to follow whatever the rules are.

lilwetdick:
this is fact. Real estate and money laundering goes hand in hand. This . a church they dont pay tax nor show earning to govt. I can steal govt fund, buy a property there then resell it after 9month for a year, make profit then report it as legal earning.

Churches do not ask a giver where he gets his money from.they collect and pray for you even it is stolen fund.

"If to say, I didnt know you", I'd say you have a criminal mind

shadeyinka:
I perfectly understand you. However, I think you have been caught cup in the deception of this age within the church of Christ and you have been playing directly or indirectly RELIGION!

1. Christianity isn't about what you get from God but about what you give to your fellow human beings
2. After salvation, your core duty is to upgrade your spiritual CGPA Nothing more Nothing less.
3. In the course of upgrading your spiritual CGPA, you will encounter challenges both NATURAL and SPIRITUAL enough to almost steal your FAITH.
4. In this times of your EXAM, the Father seldom lift up HIS hands to help you (for you are in your exam hall)
5. Death isn't evil (whichever method it takes) it signifies the end of your exam.

Beware of doctrines that turn Christianity away from Relationship into Religion

About your Basketball!
Finish your basic education first. The world is a risky place: you need something to fall back on if things go south. There is not one guarantee that if you invest your best in basketball you'll amount to anything. The best sportsmen in the world are not known. Success is a combination of skill, hardwork, location, timing, connection and grace. If any of this is missen, you are on your own.

What a very beautiful and truthful comment this is.

advocate666:
No well raised child calls his mum "woman".

Only born throways.

You are still confirming you didnt pay attention when your head honcho Satan told you and your other cohorts whom Jesus is and who is His Father

Now you are forming too big to go on an errand, erh? Especially when its for your own good and knowledge, huh?
I said, go to Satan, your head honcho, confess to him that you've just fairked up, as you dont understand the statement "Woman, what have I to do with thee?" said by Jesus to Mary His mother and you dont know why Jesus constructed the statement to say it that way He said it, and you are still here trying to talk back

bingbagbo:
Is the Book of Enoch really a lost book of the Bible? A born-again Christian who has been reading the Bible for several years only needs to read the "Book of Enoch" briefly to know that something is very wrong.

Tfbaby:
Why waste your time reading this thing when you've not fully read and digested the Holy Bible

Agrogbeide:
One thing I have learnt recently in life is not to jump into conclusion concerning very sensitive matters that has not been scrutinized under my eyes and most especially by the help of the Holy Spirit.

I admire this kind of spirit that scrutinizes and most especially when done under the guidance of the Holy Spirit

Mediocrity, is ignoring the big elephant in the room, pretending its not there and then be discussing the ants or playing the hot potato game, tossing it about even before the music begins.

Agrogbeide:
I have read the book of Enoch, based on my current understanding about that book it is not heretical.

Agrogbeide nwanne my dear brother and friend, you do know there are three sets of the book of Enoch. There is the First Book of Enoch, otherwise known as the Ethiopian Book of Enoch, there is the Second Book of Enoch, otherwise known as The Slavonic Enoch or Secrets of Enoch and there is Third Book of Enoch, which is an Extended Version and is otherwise known as The Hebrew Book of Enoch.

The First Book of Enoch, otherwise known as the Ethiopian Book of Enoch, is probably the one you most likely admitted to have read and not find heretical. It is the one referenced in the New Testament by Peter and Jude, where they were denouncing it and funnily enough the heresy(ies) in the book

Just like you, I too the other day, long time ago, sat down to begin read the Book of Enoch. I couldnt believe what tall tale narrative I was reading that I had to chuck it aside because what I was reading just wasnt adding up together. No wonder Peter and Jude re-echoing Peter were among other things, condemning the Book of Enoch in their letter

Agrogbeide:
Any religious material is heretical when IT DOES NOT RECOGNIZES JESUS CHRIST AS LORD, GOD, SON, FATHER, THE MESSIAH AND THE HOLY SPIRIT and when you read carefully you will find out the book of Enoch recognizes the Lord Jesus Christ in response to these personalities.
We should not judge things based on speculations, we should allow the Holy Spirit lead us because Him alone is the PERFECT TRUTH.
God bless you.

"Ha! What do You want with us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have You come to destroy us? I know who You are--the Holy One of God!" You say you have faith, for you believe that there is one God. Good for you! Even the demons believe this, and they tremble in terror," that by the way was Luke 4:34 and James 2:19, now Agrogbeide, in light of those two verses, are you going to say because demons recognise Jesus for whom He is, then we safely can say, those demons in Luke 4:34 and James 2:19 arent heretical?

advocate666:
"Woman, what have I to do with thee?"
See how the bastard talks to his own mum.

What kind of a fiend are you advocate666?
Is there some general learning disability here or what, because it looks like you didnt pay attention when your head hondo Satan told you and your other cohorts whom Jesus is and who is His Father

Now on to your lack of awareness or understanding, you need to go back to your head hondo Satan to confess to him that you've just fairked up, as you dont understand the statement "Woman, what have I to do with thee?" said by Jesus to Mary His mother and you dont know why Jesus constructed the statement to say it that way He said it

Ihedinobi3:
I don't think you are right. I also notice that you didn't explain away "seize". Perhaps, you also seize a woman and "be manly" too?

alBHAGDADI:
Just cos a dictionary tells you that seize is synonymous with grasp doesn't mean. both words can be used interchangeably all the time. Try to note that. Knowing that will prevent you from using those words wrongly.

The teacher grasp hold off my book

The teacher seized my book

Both sentences carry different meanings.

alBHAGDADI the teacher grasped hold off your book to do what with it huh? The teacher seized your book to do what with it, hmm?

You see your problems are well known and diagnosed here on the Religion forum alBHAGDADI, and on top of your problems, is the issue of context, you don't take context into consideration and that is why you always opt for proof-texting

JeromeBlack:
Not in this case. Good does not always come from evil.

Maybe God should test you with Satan like he did Job. Kill your children and then curse you with a debilitating skin disease.

Or maybe your daughter should be raped and then forced to marry her rapist.

Maybe only then will you see how foolish your religion is.

Evil is the absence of good JeromeBlack.

JeromeBlack, please behave and don't be wishing om someone else what you wouldn't, not even jokingly wish on yourself or any of your darling dear close family members.

JeromeBlack, did you not read where above I typed the father has the last word whether a rapist marries or not marries his raped daughter? You pretending you didn't, right?

Also please stop with this your disproportionate talking

JeromeBlack:
ONE of my many problems with Christianity. A good God giving permission to an evil spirit to commit evil on the righteous.

It is out of a black pot that white pap comes out from JeromeBlack. You even cant make omelette without getting someone to break the eggs.

OkCornel:
Please help me tell the OP that if Deuteronomy 22 v 28 is not talking about rape... then why does Deuteronomy 22 v 29 clearly mention that the lady is humbled after that incident?
Deuteronomy 22:28-29 King James Version (KJV)
²⁸ If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
²⁹ Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.
The funny thing about this stubborn OP is that he thinks the Bible was originally written in King James Version. I have told him to get the Hebrew Bible and convert the words used in that passage to English and see what it means... till date he has dodged that task...

"When the Bible says a man lay hold onto a woman and laid with her, it doesn't mean rape but consensual sex. The same Bible clearly spelt out what rape is when it said the rapist should be stoned if the woman cries out. But if shoe doesn't, then it means they both consented to it.

Deuteronomy 22:23-24 King James Version (KJV)
If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her;
Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city; and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbour's wife: so thou shalt put away evil from among you.
Now, where in the below verse does it say that a father should collect bride price after his daughter has cried out of rape?"
- by alBHAGDADI: 8:41am On Apr 07

alBHAGDADI, it is rape and it is Exodus 22:17, where, it says, that a father could collect bride price after his daughter has cried out of rape. It is the father, who has the final say, whether the man can or cannot marry his raped daughter.

alBHAGDADI:
My regular customer. I was expecting you to jump in when the thread has gotten to page 20, but you decided to surprise me today.
Since when did the word Humble become synonymous with rape? The usage of the word humble is not to connote rape but to show that her pride has been taken. What is her pride? Her virginity is her pride which the man has taken. That single act makes her less desireable in those days because no man wanted to marry a non-virgin. And since the sexual act was not rape but consensual, the man is asked to marry the lady so she won't have difficulty finding a husband.

Don't you know that Satan also has his own Hebrew and Greek manuscripts? Don't you know that that's where all these modern versions got translated from?

"... guys, dont seem to know nwanne, my customer mi, daada ni, nwanne alBHAGDADI.

Let me introduce you to who alBHAGDADI is and what he stands for. He is a certified and bonafide pharisaical, intolerant, bigoted, narrow-minded, small-minded tithe merchant who validates, spreads and promotes obligatory or imposed ecclesiastical monitised tithing and by cherry picking, would with great effort or energy, say and do anything or something to have legal right or a just claim to receive or have something to do with the sense of entitlement to obligatory or imposed ecclesiastical monitised tithing. All this, his posts upandan the forum, about old testament laws being valid etcetera, is a ruse, a ruse for tithing, an exercise in smoke and mirrors for me.

He is my very good customer. We have regular transactions together. The most recent one, I have asked him many times over, to please and kindly in a way that a two year old can understand, that's if at all if he really does know, to soon explain to us, the reason behind why, in the Bible, God said cross dressing is an abomination to Him. and that women should abstain from wearing what belongs to men, likewise men what belongs to women, but this request seems to be hard and difficult for him to deliver and give answers to"
- by MuttleyLaff: 3:41pm On Apr 09

Ehn ehn, so you too sef alBHAGDADI, don begin get "regular customer" too kwa? So na so, you now begin call OkCornel your regular customer.?

kkins25:
I laugh in MuttleyLaff.

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luvmijeje:
I'm telling you those texts were inserted. Why did he call himself a Roman if he is not one. He didn't claim it just once. He claimed it again in Act 22 : 28

Again, take a seat.

Are you deaf in hearing, cant you read, are you pretending you didnt read where I typed that Paul was born a Jew in the Roman city of Tarsus, huh?

For crying out loud luvmijeje, the blessed man had dual citizenship. What part of that is difficult or hard for you to understand, erh? Look at you asking me why did he call himself a Roman, if he is not one. SMH for you and doing facepalm things.

The commander interrogating Paul in Acts 22:28 said he paid a high price for his Roman citizenship, but Paul told him, "I am a citizen by birth", that he Paul was born a citizen, and that is true.

Dont worry luvmijeje, at the rate you are going on, you would get quite an education before the time you decide you've had enough for the day, to scurry back to that "fiery fire" undergrowth abyss pit of hell place, you crawled out under from. You will soon learn and know why jesusjnr never has the balls to engage me nor respond to simple easy straightforward and direct questions put to him by me.
cc Agrogbeide

luvmijeje:
Bleep that. What I quoted brought down your pack of lies. There was never a name change. He was never Jewish. Nothing happened on the road of Damascus. It was all inserted so that Zombie like you will not look further.

"I was circumcised when I was eight days old.
I am a pure-blooded citizen of Israel and a member of the tribe of Benjamin
—a real Hebrew if there ever was one! I was a member of the Pharisees, who demand the strictest obedience to the Jewish law."
- Philippians 3:5

"Then Saul, who was also called Paul, filled with the Holy Spirit, looked straight at Elymas and said,"
- Acts 13:9

See yourself, look at you, who the foxtrot uniform charlie kilo told you, there ever was a name change, huh, olodo upon twenty conspiracy theorist jatijati?

luvmijeje:
Act 16 : 37
37 But Paul said to them, “They have beaten us openly, uncondemned Romans, and have thrown us into prison. And now do they put us out secretly? No indeed! Let them come themselves and get us out.”

Muttleylaff, take a seat. I'm not a Zombie like you. I question and I read between the line.

luvmijeje, you are worst than a zombie, you are an ignoranus and more.

Paul was born a Jew in the Roman city of Tarsus, hence him addressed as Saul of Tarsus. Saul was his Hebrew name and Paul his Roman name. Though he had dual citizenship, he still was proud of his Jewish heritage, evidence of this can be read in Philippians 3:5, so what are you on about huh?

luvmijeje:
There's a different between slander and truth. I'm bringing the truth against Paul. And I'm still bringing in more truth. Paul is a man like you and I refused to swallow all his bullshit without questioning. In fact, I refused to swallow anything from the religious book of men without questioning it. You are all suffering from mental slavery.

I must say you've got balls more than men like jesusjnr, who doesnt like getting pinned down or trapped into a corner.

luvmijeje, the one, two or three you said about Paul werent true, so means you slandered him and I remember taking you up on each account. of them.

luvmijeje:
You all have to ask yourselves...... Why am I taking this personal? Afterall Paul is a Roma while you are black. And have you all ever wondered, how come, the Catholic church has his headquarter in Vatican. Do you all know where Vatican is? Rome and Vatican has one thing in common, Italy.

You are taking it personal because you are confused, ignorant and ill-informed. You are singing to the wrong choir with all these your vituperative outburst.

luvmijeje:
And have you ever wondered how come Paul despite not being an Apostle of Christ wrote more about the teaching of Christ than those who were Apostles? What qualified him? He wrote a bullshit story of being called on a road to Damascus and you started thinking he's God and cannot be question.

Have you ever wondered what possibly would have alternatively happened if Peter wasnt dragging and shuffling his feet. Have you also ever wondering why Peter in 2 Peter 3:16 will say, Paul's letters contain some things that are hard to understand and those who are ignorant and unstable have twisted his letters to mean something quite different, just as you, jesusjnr and others have been doing, huh?

Ah I remember, I used to hate Paul, I used to say, who does Paul think he is, who the foxtrot uniform charlie kilo is Paul, just like you right now luvmijeje, I used to look at Paul and read his epistles, using the wrong end of the telescope but then, when I learned that Paul has a peculiar way and/or style of writing, everything changed. My whole perpective about Paul changed after that epiphany. Just like Peter, I learned the hard way, that Paul's comments are hard to understand, and those who are ignorant and unstable twist his letters to mean something quite different, just as being done with other parts of the Bible still and today by the likes of you and that unrepentant jesusjnr

luvmijeje:
Have you ever wondered how come the Vatican make Paul bigger than other Apostles in the new testament? Maybe because he's not Jewish. They demonized the Jews and make a Roma a God.

You are slacking in your lies. The original and Jewish name of Paul is Saul.