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Shepherd00:
You don't defend Homosexuality?

You haven't yet brought out proof of your earlier slander, now you gone on to another, huh?
In addition to your outstanding proof you need to bring forward, please give the exact wordings of me defending homosexuality, else retract all your accusations and tender apologies for smearing me. Thank you.

frank317:
I watched it and it still proves my point..what was the deliverance for? U reliever someone and instead of him giving testimony of how he was delivered, he is talking about how the whole thing made him angry and how he had to let go... Yet his mum died? I really think TB should be sued.

TB is a charlatan, a fraud and a conman who exploits and takes advantage of people's desperation, vulnerabilities, ignorances, insecurities and hopes.

Jim Iyke was a desperate man, will to do and try anything to extend his mother failing health. He saw through TB, and wanted out, told his sisters to let them leave TB and take their mom to South Africa, but his suggestion fell on deaf ears, only to in his own words, for him to be overwhelmed by some force he couldn't explain and the rest is the ugly history


For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders that would deceive even the elect, if that were possible.
- Matthew 24:24

Matthew 24:24 above, paints a good picture of TB and people like shadeyinka, petra1 joagbaje etcetera that famzing him

VBCampaign:
Thanks MuttleyLaff. I'll be watching it right away

I will asap paste the clips of how Naija churches roll in the bed with the establishment.

Baddiezz:
Lol you're going round in circle.
Repeating the same thing. Nope there's nothing like consensual masturbation or masturbation as pre-intimacy. Doesn't matter how much you sugarcoat it. If two people are involved it's not masturbation its pre-intimacy. Masturbation involves only one person not two. That's the number one definition not sidelines. By the way you still haven't shown me anything on Google that reads "consensual masturbation"

No, not going in circles but rather reinforcing what's being said and showing you how masturbation is good, as in cases, where it helps out men who have challenges sustaining or maintaining a stiff or hardened peniis when having sex

Now tell me what is consensual masturbation if you don't agree and accept that it is mutual masturbation, erh?

shadeyinka:
...one day and soon, you shall be free in Jesus Name. Amen!

Certified and bonafide ignoranus olodo upon twenty ọlọpọlọ dudu...one day and soon not in the far future, you shall get the strong help slap reset my brain moment and you shall be free in Jesus name indeed. Amen.

frank317:
The bad news is that since after the deliverance Jim has been walking about like his old self. There has been no change in him whatsoever which makes me wonder what the essence of the deliverance was.

They left the poor dying woman and went to deliver Jim who at the end of the day was not delivered... What a huge sick joke

What really is the essence of this thread? To show deliverance is a waste of time?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f293WbXD8o
Watch from 4.17- 7.50

shadeyinka:
This doesn't negate the fact that you need a STRONG HELP.
I sincerely from my heart pray for you.

I have all the help I need already from God but you, sincerely speaking, need a strong help slap reset my brain moment.

shadeyinka:
You need strong help sir!

Nwanne, this is Monday morning, please take your bad bad energy plus negativity and stay very very far away from me. With all the silly antics you've been up to, on this thread, you need a strong help slap reset my brain sir.

VBCampaign:
The first installment from last week:

Portrait of a Blessed Man: Oyedepo as Case Study

By: Deji Yesufu

During the course of the past week, an online news medium published a story saying that David Oyedepo, the presiding Bishop of the Living Faith Churches, worldwide, had opened a new housing estate. The photo, which is attached to this article, showed a smiling Oyedepo with pictures of the housing estate that had scores of houses already finished, waiting for their lucky occupants to have them. As of the time of writing this article, David Oyedepo is said to be the third richest pastor in the world. He is clearly the richest pastor in Africa and his wealth continues to increase. Some have tried to estimate his riches to be no less than $150B; however David Oyedepo waves such reports away. He states confidently that he is a lot wealthier than those reports state. David Oyedepo, some would say, is a picture of a blessed man.

Concluded:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8ch-OFS2Ng
You need to have one quiet nice day to watch the above YouTube clips, you'll be doing a SMH whilst your ears get full
I changed the clips for this one, if you havent got a strong liver, please dont watch it. It is a very emotional clip.
The original clips I was going to offer are a two part full of seedy deals scandals between church and establishment etcetera

cpmconsultingltd:
Lol.. Offended? Not at all sir. Just that I feel sad not coming across one like you to advice and explain things which I do not understand. Maybe that is one of the consequences of being a solitary seeker.

However, i feel calm now in my spiritman and really grateful for taking out time out of your busy schedule to explain things to me. May wisdom never seize to grace your path for seekers like us.
Sir, please can you give me these tantric mantra whose name you can't mention here? So I can try it myself?
Maybe you can be my examiner on the astral plain .
Don't worry about me, for I have searched everywhere, even in dark waters alone, for what you just dished out to me, though a hand always pull me out whenever I'm going too deep .
About the WILL, I always try to work on it. Do you know I even had to create a WILL POWER sigil for it, just to have a strong will? Yet I realized it's something I need to work on myself, so I'm on it.

As carved on the Temple of Ap.... " MAN KNOW THYSELF" , I'm still on the part of knowing myself sir.

Greetings Frater.

Enter the dragon's lair, only when you are totally aware of the way to make an emergency exit from.

shadeyinka:
I can confirm now that you have a nature of bitterness. I sincerely pray for your healing.

I can confirm that you are a certified and bonafide ignoranus olodo upon twenty ọlọpọlọ dudu and you should suck up to TB Joshua for "deliverance" of this

TVSA:
my friend in school then used to drop his juice at sperm clinic as a service to humanity

One stone killing three birds:
pleasurable physical experience that's not harming anyone, service to humanity & finacially rewarded for having sex with someone he love

Baddiezz:
Lol exactly *alternatively* Meaning its not the first/foremost and accurate definition.
There's nothing like consensual masturbation. You need permission from yourself to jerk off yourself? funny. Show me your results on "consensual masturbation"

Consensual masturbation is mutual masturbation Baddiezz, it is the act of two or more people masturbating each other.

Baddiezz, I've already told you a few things about masturbation. I earlier said, masturbation is another form of pleasurable physical experience of having sex. I mentioned that doing it with/for a partner is mutual masturbation also known as consensual masturbation.

Now, pre-intimacy, is sexual activity that precedes penetrative sex. The thing is, for some men, having sustained hardened and stiff peniis challenges, masturbation as pre-intimacy, to help such out of a bad situation, is good and beneficial for them, as it comes to their rescue and bails them out of this embrassing and psychological position they initially find themselves in.

You know now Baddiezz, that, there are more than one ways to skin a cat than choking it with cream, but what do I know anyway, afterall, Baddiezz still says, that there is nothing, not even anything remotely good, in masturbation and she is a chronic diehard no fap crusader

shadeyinka:
You sound bitter: I don't know why?
Who are you then? What's your belief?
Maybe you are confusing some of us.

You are still up with playing from your trick of cards

shadeyinka:
What is wrong with you?
You are so filled with bitterness and you are looking for anywhere to spill it.

Get a grip on yourself.

The immediate above quote, do you remember it from two years ago by one shadeyinka(m): at 12:40am On Dec, 03, 2017 huh? You have used this same and tired old line on me a couple of times this year too. Anytime I comment or quote, you come back with you sound bitter. Do you sell bitter leaves, why your obsession with bitter. No I dont sound bitter, and I am not bitter

I know who I am and I know what my belief is. I doubt you yours. Confusion, they say, is the first step to knowledge and clarity, so it is good for you, that in this case, you are confused, because confusion is a word we use on ourselves especially when about something or someone that is not understood.

Shepherd00:
You don't believe in demon possession too?

SMH. Who is this clown? I wont dignify you a reply on this question more than this

Shepherd00:
It's hard to place that guy. He quotes the Bible but he doesn't believe in the Workings of the Holy Spirit which begins with Holy Ghost baptism evidenced in speaking in tongues. He does not believe in miracles. He doesn't believe in Tithing and now he doesn't believe in demon possession, but he stands firmly for HOMOSEXUALITY.

What a Christian.

You must have just pulled all that out of your rear back because all what you're saying about me not believing in this and not believing in that, is total and absolute bs and on top of it, sort of insensitive of you to further slander me with saying, I stand firmly for HOMOSEXUALITY. SMH.

shadeyinka:
Oh I see.
He's a mole amongst us. No wonder he doesn't mind tearing down a believer on atheist threads.

I dont mind who's ox is gored, I tell it, as it is. No blind loyalties anywhere.

It is still fresh in my mind, so I still remember, telling that, you dont seem to miss a trick, do you. You pull out all available trick card to get a leg over, huh? I told you that then, and also said, you wouldnt find an iota of bitterness in me, and that, its just you clutching another straw again. I ended up informing you, that, it's simply and just that, you are gung-ho and I dont suffer gladly gung-hos and/or even certain atheists that cross the line. If you misjive, misspeak, misyarn, and/or misrepresent the gospel or the Kingdom of God, I will come after you. If you talk rubbish, type trash or say the wrong thing like on this thread and you sometimes do, make no mistake that I wont come descending on you like a ton of bricks

Our last engagement, was when I asked: Now are you ready and prepared, to show in the bible where it is explicitly stated that God is trinity. Implied are not welcome, and so remember to please take note of that. You were talking about the Trinity of God right? Remember? but you developed cold feet, couldnt respond to it and so pitifully shooed yourself off.

shadeyinka:
There was a time I called his attention to it that if he has a doctrinal issue with a believer on an atheists thread he should do a PM to such so that the issue could be discussed of the public eye. He got angry!

Have you got evidence of this imaginary and fictitious conversation that transpired between you and I, you claim I got angry from?
Are you able to back up this spurious allegation and the proof from the previous thread and posts, huh, if not then I suggest you retract your damning statement and honourably apologise for the slander. If you are unable to bring forth the proof, which I am quite sure would be the case, please then retract that statement you launched at me and ask for clarification of my comment if not sure of what I've typed.

shadeyinka:
He's probably an atheist who has not crossed the line of final rejection of God.
I still sometimes pray for them. Claiming wisdom yet becoming great fools at the same time

Be clutching straws, chasing shadows plus ghosts and throwing ad hominem shades. OK?

Baddiezz:
Dont blame my small phone. It only gave me the utmost definition and even your screenshot agrees cause I see that my definition is first. Then others follow suit.

MuttleyLaff:
masturbate
verb
uk ​ /ˈmæs.tə.beɪt/ us ​ /ˈmæs.tɚ.beɪt/
[ I ] to touch or rub your sexual organs in order to give yourself sexual pleasure
​[ T ] to touch or rub someone's sexual organs in order to give them sexual pleasure
​[ I/T ] to rub or touch the sex organs of yourself or someone else for pleasure
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/masturbate

Baddiezz, let me tell you a few things about masturbation. Masturbation is another form of pleasurable physical experience of having sex. Baddiezz doing it with/for a partner is mutual masturbation or consensual masturbation. Baddiezz, pre-intimacy is sexual activity that precedes penetrative sex. Now Baddiezz, for some men having hardened peniis challenges, masturbation as pre-intimacy, to help such out of a bad situation, is good, beneficial and coming to their rescue. You know now, that there are more than one ways to skin a cat than choking it with cream, but what do I know anyway, afterall, Baddiezz still says, that there is nothing, not even a remotely good, in masturbation and is a no fap crusader

Does the above look familiar to you? Do you remember the three definition provided in it. This was before the screenshots request. Notice that just like in my screenshot, it gives masturbation to be: "to touch or rub someone's sexual organs in order to give them sexual pleasure" and altenatively as "to rub or touch the sex organs of yourself or someone else for pleasure" but you shouted blue murder, saying that: "There's nothing like consensual masturbation. Not even on Google."

I hope you have a good lawyer for when Google will sue you for incorrectly misrepresenting them with a lie like that. So aunty, there is the proof that there afterall is something called consensual masturbation. It even is on Google.

Baddiezz:
Heheh .I'm sipping juice ,I'm as calm as can be.
Ok done.
Image below. I like the definition that comes after it. "Have sex with yourself"

[img]https://s2/images/nerve.jpg[/img]
You have a choice of four definitions from my honest screenshot than your prudish, conservative and half truth one
It took you three attempts before you managed to half heartedly come up with yours and you made pulling out tooth look dead easier.

Baddiezz:
as the images depicts below I typed what you asked . That's Google's definition and you can see the next website says the same thing. "pleasuring yourself"

Aunty please calm the nerves now. I didn't ask you to look up "masturbation meaning", but said, type these two words "masturbate meaning" into Google, capture the screenshot displaying the first upper results and paste it here for all to see what came up. Do it and I'll do same after yours. Simple and easy, straightforward instructions. Thank you.

Baddiezz:
I did...look up

I didn't ask you to look up anything, but said, type these two words "masturbate meaning" into Google, capture the screenshot displaying the first upper results and paste it here for all to see what came up. Do it and I'll do same after yours

Your wikipedia screenshot will tell you that consensual masturbation is and means mutual masturbation. I dont know why you would say: "
There's nothing like consensual masturbation. Not even on Google." when I had already mentioned with my earlier:
"Baddiezz doing it with/for a partner is mutual masturbation or consensual masturbation" comment

Baddiezz:
Masturbation
Description--
Masturbation is the sexual stimulation of one's own genitals for sexual arousal or other sexual pleasure, usually to the point of orgasm.

There's nothing like consensual masturbation .Not even on Google.
Cause masturbation only involve pleasuring of one's own self and body.
pleasuring your partner ain't masturbation its pre-intimacy.
And no pre-intimacy doesn't always lead to penetration. All depending on the situation .
Masturbation ain't pre-intimacy. masturbation is masturbation and pre-intimacy(involving two people) is pre-intimacy

Type "masturbate meaning" into Google, capture the screenshot displaying the first upper results and paste it here for all to see what came up. Do it and I'll do same after yours

shadeyinka:
I don't know what you are up to. Are you an atheist?

Stale question.
"Bi oo ba mọ okun, shey oo je iyọ lọbe ni, bi oo ba tie mọ erin, shey oo gbọhun erin ni?" sighs.
Loosely translated means "Even if you dont know about oceans, havent you had salt in food yet. If you dont know an elephant, cant you decipher an elephant's trumpet sound hmm?"

I am not an atheist, and please stop keep on repeatedly asking me this tired old question you keep on doing asking me

Ihedinobi3:
Quite obviously, I disagree with you.

I expected you to. Like I earlier said, admittedly, the attachment or commitment to an institutionalised and/or traditional term, especially one like this that one is known to, known as, addressed as or referred to, has to be a hard thing to break from. Certainly, this is a seemingly pious name, to make one, want to bury head in the sand and not want to know the truth about it, as in, like, be hostile to the truth about the tag "Christian" or "Christi-anos"

Please list what exactly you disagree with me on

Gbadebo01:
bro .. all this things you say don't make sense. You say things that don't match up, i admire your creativity though but you said that since the invention of trousers it was a thing for men, were you there to confirn or did God himself tell you or adam did? God bless you. See you on judgement day.

He will go to any length and write anything, so just to justify entitlements to obligatory and/or imposed ecclesiastical monitised tithing.

Notice that I have asked him many times over, to please and kindly in a way that a two year old can understand, that's if at all if he really does know, soon explain to us, the reason behind why, in the Bible, God said cross dressing is an abomination to Him and that women should abstain from wearing what belongs to men, likewise men what belongs to women, but this request seems to be hard and difficult for him to give answers to

triplechoice dont waste your breath with alBHAGDADI and Ihedinobi3, your post and comment(s) on the thread are well constructed and truthful

About alBHAGDADI saying Daddy Freeze attacked Pastor Kumuyi over his statement that women who wear men's wears are an abomination unto God and saying that such is found in the Bible, before then quoting Deuteronomy 22:5, I have already on a different thread, asked him to please and kindly in a way that a two year old can understand, that's if at all if he really does know, to explain to us, the reason behind why, in the Bible, God said cross dressing is an abomination to Him and so the cause behind why He said women should abstain from wearing what belongs to men, likewise men what belongs to women, but this request seems to be hard and difficult for him to give answers to?

HardMirror:
i once saw a video on youtube titled "man turns to a tiger while being delivered by tb joshua" i rushed and opened the link and watched the whole video expecting to see him change but all he did was crawl on all fours and was roaring like a pussy. Same with useless stories of people turning to snake and the story would be backed up with a photoshoped picture. Geez... christians are gullible

The bible in Matthew 24:24 says:
"For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders that would deceive even the elect, if that were possible."

shadeyinka, is not alone, he is in good company of the likes of petra1 joagbaje, who also famzings TB Joshua. One day monkey go go market, no go return back be TB Joshua own

HardMirror:
Would be more convincing if she had turned into a dog on camera and before everyone not pretending to be a dog. When such happens then i think we wld have something serious to discuss.

The best and only sensible comment so far on this thread. It made my day, brought a chuckle out of me and so deserved my liking it

Ihedinobi3:
Let me explain something I really shouldn't be needing to explain at all: we don't make up the meanings of words just as we please. Words have a meaning. We use them or we don't.

Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed;
but let him glorify God on this behalf.
- 1 Peter 4:16

Let me explain something here too, I really shouldn't be posting and getting in between both of you, but sometimes, regardless of whose ox is being gored, regardless of if it is a dangerous or undesirable thing to say or do, a man just has got to do what a man's got to do. You are completely and totally right that words have a meaning. People use these words and some dont use these words for themselves but might accept others using the words on them. Case in point, the word "nigger". Funnily and by some bizzare curious twist of fate, the word "Christian" or more correctly and appropriately the term "Christi-anos" is no different kettle of fish to the repugnant word "nigger"

"Christian" or "Christi-anos" is just another epithet, similar in import, to the infamous word, nigger

Just, as black people suffered as niggers, before the Civil Rights Act of 1964 enacted by the 88th United States Congress, so the early believers suffered, contemptuous ridicule, mockery and/or disdain.It is very important to note that, Peter, in the 1 Peter 4:16 verse, IS NOT, under any circumstances, calling anybody or anyone a Christian but rather, is saying dont be ashamed, if any gets to be treated like a nigger "Christian" or "Christi-anos", he in effect, is trying to pacify, by advising to keep calm and brush it off, if subjected to this contemptuous ridicule, mockery and/or disdain.

Admittedly, the attachment or commitment to a institutionalised and/or traditional term, especially one like this that one is known to, known as, addressed as or referred to, has to be a hard thing to break from. Certainly, this is a seemingly pious name, to make one, want to bury head in the sand and not want to know the truth about it, as in, like, be hostile to the truth about the tag "Christian" or "Christi-anos"

The fact, that, you refer yourself as Christian, don't mean that's who you really are because the truth of the matter, is, that's not what God calls you, it's what the world calls you or what the world, like Antioch, says you are and/or who you are.

Here are a few parallels any black person can relate to:
Are you a nigger?
Do you refer or address yourself as a nigger?
Do you call yourself, answer back after and/or when being called a nigger?
What would you say if someone, right now, possibly non-black, calls you a nigger?

Ihedinobi3:
Christian is a Bible word. It was described in the Bible to be a label that mocking unbelievers attached to people who believe in Jesus Christ. That is what it means. It does not mean whatever budaatum or anybody else suddenly decides that it must mean.

It is true "Christian" or "Christi-anos" is a Bible word, in fact, it actually originally, is a Greek word. The word Christian, is the Greek transliteration, Christi-anos. It is also true that it is a label, that is mocking unbelievers, and attached to people, who believe in Jesus Christ, but it means more than you simply saying: "That is what it means"

You typed: "It does not mean whatever budaatum or anybody else suddenly decides that it must mean" yet you dont go any further to explain the true sense and correct meaning of the word

Ihedinobi3:
The word is a synonym for believer, saint, follower of The Way, and disciple in the Bible. If you do not believe in Jesus Christ Who is God that put on humanity in order to die for human sins and save all humans from the Lake of Fire, you are not a Christian. Period. Doesn't matter how sweet or nice you are. If you do believe that, then you are. Period. Doesn't matter how horrid your behavior is, or even how bad your theology is.

Now without you at all trying to be grammatically, semantically and etymologically correct, you suddenly decides because of a semantic change, semantic confusion or semantic drift what the word "Christian" or "Christi-anos" must mean and succumbed to say, the word is a synonym for believer, saint, follower of The Way, and disciple in the Bible. I am sorry to be the one, to tell you this is a pure and sheer amelioration. Paul had the chance in the presensce of King Agrippa to admit and be proud to be called or adressed as a "Christian" or "Christi-anos" but he ducked the window opportunity and never commented to King Agrippa's scathing remark. It would have been the perfect opportunity for Paul to thump his chest and in King Agrippa's presence, proudly declare and say, yes, he is a "Christian" or "Christi-anos" but alas, he didnt, he was mute like silence of the lamb and let that window of opportunity to say, I am a "Christian" or "Christi-anos" slide by. No doubt King Agrippa uttered the Christi-anos or Christian epithet, at Paul to offend and rattle Paul, but Paul kept his cool, avoided calling himself a Christi-anos or Christian, instead replied with:
"I wish to God that you and everyone listening to me today would quickly and completely become as I am (except for being a prisoner)

Ihedinobi3, if "Christian" or "Christi-anos" really means "believer, saint, follower of The Way, and disciple in the Bible" etcetera, why, why, why, if the "Christian" or "Christi-anos" term is that so palatable or that acceptable, that neither Paul, Peter, disciples, etcetera ever addressed themselves or each other by it? Also, Paul never carried the notion in his epistles that, he or any of the believers is a "Christian" or "Christi-anos". WHY?

"Christian" or "Christi-anos" is a misnomer for believers, saints, brothers, sisters, disciples. A pig is still a pig, even with lipstick on and ring in the nose. Please teacher no teach me nonsense Fela will say. Call a spade a spade and not a fork, say it, as it is.

Ihedinobi3:
Therefore, all Christians are by definition people who believe this One Truth. That we don't all agree on Bible teachings beyond this is merely evidence that we are still in sinful, mortal flesh. In fact, today, the vast majority of Christians are incredibly ignorant of what the Bible actually teaches, so when they talk about the Bible, they basically spew an incredible amount of lies about it. But they are still very much Christians as long as they believe in Jesus Christ. That is what the authority that matters here says. And you, budaatum, are not the authority.

I have said countless times before and dont mind repeating it here. I don't know how, one will knowingly call self a Christian, cos if you properly read the Bible, you won't yourself, outrightly call yourself a Christian. Neither of the disciples, none of the apostles called themselves Christians. Even Paul, as we saw with King Agrippa baulked at a golden opportunity to proudly do so.

The person, that used that term around Paul, is a hardcore and die-hard Jew who knew what he was doing and saying, by using the Christian term around Paul. Agrippa, not only a Jew but a king as well, deliberately and calculatedly, tried to hurt Paul's emotional state, frame of mind, sensibility and/or sensitivity.

Too bad, many dont discern why and what Agrippa and those in Antioch implied and mean, by calling Paul and the earlier believers "Christi-anos" or "Christian"

Acts 11:26 is not an acceptance verse, rather it is a history verse, informing readers, that the believers, were called this epithet, "Christi-anos" (i.e. Christian) first, at Antioch

Acts 11:26 is not saying, that the believers, called themselves, the "Christi-anos" or "Christian" epithet

By default and custom, the disciples never wrote any letter addressing or calling each other, using the "Christi-anos" or "Christian"epithet. Ihedinobi3, if you find any, bring it to my notice, I will welcome it, but please, in your findings, exclude afterthought bible versions or translations

Acts 11:26, Acts 26:28 and 1 Peter 4:16 are the only three places in the bible where the term "Christi-anos" or "Christian", is found and used. On each occasion, the term was used in a belittling, derogatory and rebuffing context or manner
No where in the bible, I reiterate, will it ever be found, any of the disciples, believers, Paul, Peter, say I am a CHRISTIAN...
Same way, you Ihedinobi3, wont say about yourself: I am a NIGGER, call me one.

In youth we learn, in age we understand. Certain truths, can only be clearly seen or understood with the wisdom of age and grace of God. Let me also add, that, knowledge and/or information isn't free, you got to pay attention

Ihedinobi3:
About atheists, really, just find someone who cares. I truly have no desire to repeat things that are clear enough for the simple to understand. It takes insanity or sheer dishonesty to ignore or confuse some things.

About atheists, I really, have never met any atheists, that I couldn't learn something from. I learn a lot from all my interactions with them all, such like Sêun, the god of Nairaland, frank317, TheArranger, ThothHermes/Ranchhoddas, Hermes019, LoJ, Dantedasz, GreatResearcher, PastorAIO/Sarassin RIP, Michellekabod RIP, JeromeBlack/HappyPagan, HardMirror, HopefulLandlord, Martinez39, Akin1212, BeLookingIDIOT, Goshen360, TVSA, TV01 etcetera

Ishilove:
Where is the evidence that she is preaching the gospel?

She is on a pulpit

alBHAGDADI:
Do the below men look like men to you? Even kids will see them as women.

alBHAGDADI, yes they do look like men to me and most we know, they, like nigerians Jay Bugatti, Denrele or Bobrisky, are drag queens etcetera, but please and kindly in a way that a two year old can understand, that's if at all if you really do know, soon explain to us, the reason behind why, in the Bible, God said cross dressing is an abomination to Him and that women should abstain from wearing what belongs to men, likewise men what belongs to women. Is this request too difficult for you to answer?

Gbadebo01:
bro this bible passage is talking about attitude not dressing. You sound like an accuser. I now understand the amount of work Jesus is doing for us in heaven.
Matthew 23: 25-26. But how dare you make such random accusation that she has dirt on the inside? Do u know her? Na you holy pass? You are making those conclusion based on her dressing alone then i believe you are very myopic in thinking and its off no use trying to broaden your perspective. But just one last thing please enlighten us on where in the bible that it says that trousers are for men and skirts are for ladies? Unless you provide this then you don't have a point and will never have a point.

alBHAGDADI:
The verse covers both dressing and attitude, include other things because the Bible is a double edged sword. Is attitude not what determines dress code? If I want to look like a musician today, I'll simply braid my hair it wear dreadlocks, sag my trousers and wear some tattoos. Yes, some people dress like that without actually being musicians, but they do so because they've been influenced by musicians to have that attitude.

You don't need to dig into someone's heart before you know the kind of person they are. A simple glimpse at them is enough because by their fruits ye shall know them. What fruits do you think a woman dressed like that is trying to bear? She's simply trying to make the opposite sex find her attractive and sexy. Or are you saying she's simply trying to preach the gospel dressed that way?

The Bible doesn't specifically talk about trousers, but it said women should abstain from wearing what belongs to men, likewise men what belongs to women. Be sincere with yourself for once and state what you think are those clothes men wear that women should not wear. Since the invention of trousers, it has always been a thing made for men. It only began to be worn by women in the near past. Before then it was never so. The same thing applies to skirts which has always been a thing for women. Men have done well to stay away from it, but women have encroached into our territory all in a bid to look sexy, and because the sodomite fashion industry is promoting it. The disgust you feel when you see a man wearing skirt is the same disgust God feels when a woman wears trousers. Be sincere with yourself, doesn't even nature tell you that trousers are decent for women?

Please and kindly in a way that a two year old can understand, that's if at all if you really do know, soon explain to us, the reason behind why, God said cross dressing is an abomination to Him and that women should abstain from wearing what belongs to men, likewise men what belongs to women?

MrPresident1:
https://www.nairaland.com/2005883/must-keep-law

I told you a long time ago that you MUST keep the whole law, you must keep every part of the law

OkCornel:
Were the Apostles wrong to say these at the Jerusalem council meeting in Acts 15?

18 From the beginning of the world, God knoweth all his works.

19 Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them of the Gentiles that are turned to God,

20 But that we send unto them, that they abstain themselves from filthiness of idols, and fornication, and that is strangled, and from blood.

24 Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us, have troubled you with words, and cumbered your minds, saying, Ye must be circumcised and keep the Law: to whom we gave no such commandment,

28 For it seemed good to the holy Ghost, and to us, to lay no more burden upon you, than these necessary things.

29 That is, that ye abstain from things offered to idols, and blood, and that that is strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

"When I saw that they were not acting in line with the truth of the gospel, I said to Cephas in front of them all,
"You are a Jew, yet you live like a Gentile and not like a Jew.
How is it, then, that you force Gentiles to follow Jewish customs?"
- Galatians 2:14

"¹³For you, brothers, were called to freedom; but do not use your freedom as an opportunity for the flesh.
Rather, serve one another in love
¹⁴For all the law is fulfilled in one word,
even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself."
- Galatians 5:13-14

Baddiezz:
lol that's not masturbation. masturbation is self-service. Doing it with a partner is pre-intimacy.
i.e in funke's case

masturbate
verb
uk ​ /ˈmæs.tə.beɪt/ us ​ /ˈmæs.tɚ.beɪt/
[ I ] to touch or rub your sexual organs in order to give yourself sexual pleasure
​[ T ] to touch or rub someone's sexual organs in order to give them sexual pleasure
​[ I/T ] to rub or touch the sex organs of yourself or someone else for pleasure
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/masturbate

Baddiezz, let me tell you a few things about masturbation. Masturbation is another form of pleasurable physical experience of having sex. Baddiezz doing it with/for a partner is mutual masturbation or consensual masturbation. Baddiezz, pre-intimacy is sexual activity that precedes penetrative sex. Now Baddiezz, for some men having hardened peniis challenges, masturbation as pre-intimacy, to help such out of a bad situation, is good, beneficial and coming to their rescue. You know now, that there are more than one ways to skin a cat than choking it with cream, but what do I know anyway, afterall, Baddiezz still says, that there is nothing, not even a remotely good, in masturbation and is a no fap crusader

achorladey:
Nicodemus did BELIEVE JESUS was FROM GOD, his words in John 3:2 showed that to be true, John 3:2 make a case for WE...... to show the aspect of your post that many living in Nicodemus days were already born again at least the BIBLE accounted for the miracles did by some using the name of JESUS that even the 12 disciples of JESUS created a lot of FUSS ABOUT.

2 came to Jesus at night and said to him, “Rabbi, WE KNOW THAT you are a TEACHER who has come FROM GOD. For no one could perform the miraculous signs that you do UNLESS God is with him.”

"Jesus replied,
“Truly, truly, I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.”"
- John 3:3

achorladey, why is Jesus saying "truly truly I tell you" and talking about "no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again." to Nicodemus' John 3:2 blunt and opening remark, huh? Jesus, always does this, He responds to what lies at the heart of something or somebody. Jesus in John 3:3, responded to what was in the heart of Nicodemus by telling Nicodemus that no one can see and confirm all that Nicodemus has said about Him and the miraculous signs are evidence that God is with Jesus except that person is born again

In fact, scoffers, mockers, cynics, pagans etcetera dont and never see anything good about the kingdom and that's because they are not born again, they are not born from above, and so are not spiritually rebirthed. It's more the reason, we have atheists, it is because regeneration has not taken place in them and this why they rubbish and/or never want to acknowledge any demonstrations or power of the kingdom of God. They dont believe who Jesus is, that He is God and that the miraculous signs are evidence that God is with Jesus

achorladey:
He had to come at the DEAD of the night to avoid DETECTION from his FELLOW COLLEAGUES to confirm WHAT he REALLY believes at HEART.

No wonder Jesus said he that does the truth or believe the truth no longer need the COVER of DARKNESS to express the TRUTH. John 3:21

achorladey:
Regarding the DUO, the GRIP the GOVERNING BODY have over their lives no be SMALL THING, you will have noticed they see the GOVERNING BODY as JESUS' BROTHERS and there SALVATION is based in the need to CONTINUALLY support and be OBEDIENT to JESUS' BROTHER and not become BORN AGAIN as it were. The reason they tell being BORN AGAIN is meant for a certain definite number of a particular group of CHRISTIANS and the other CHRISTIAN will gain salvation but don't need to be BORN AGAIN

It is not just about reading, knowing or learning, the point is to understand. I wouldnt waste my time and explanations with the duo

achorladey:
Bible questions answered as captured on the jw.org website having the topic...
WHAT DOES It MEAN TO BE BORN AGAIN?
MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT BEING BORN AGAIN

MISCONCEPTION 1: A person must be BORN AGAIN to gain SALVATION or to be a CHRISTIAN.


Fact: Christ’s sacrifice provides salvation not only for those who are born again as the ones( FIRST GROUP) who will rule with Christ in heaven but also for the earthly subjects of God’s Kingdom . ( 1 John 2:​1, 2; Revelation 5:​9, 10 ) That second group of Christians have the opportunity to live forever in Paradise on earth.​— Psalm 37:29; Matthew 6:​9, 10; Revelation 21:​1-5 .

MISCONCEPTION 2: A person can CHOOSE to be BORN AGAIN.

Fact: The opportunity to have a relationship with God and gain salvation is open to all. ( 1 Timothy 2:​3, 4; James 4:8 ) However, God CHOOSES THOSE who will be BORN AGAIN, or ANOINTED with HOLY SPIRIT. According to the Bible, being born again “depends, not on a PERSON’S DESIRE or on his EFFORT, but on GOD.” ( Romans 9:​16 ) The expression “born again” can also be rendered “born from above,” confirming that the selection of those who are born again comes “from above,” or from God.​— John 3:3 , footnote.

Muttleylaff this is the mindset instill in the heart of the DUO, after all you are not forcing them to accept your teachings about this, rather it's an opportunity for them to equally act like the BEROEANS to check if what you were trying to explain were really so.

Exactly as I earlier said, not many are aware that born again precedes and preceded salvation and that fact is, in order to receive and get the gift of salvation, you'll first, have to be born again, be regenerated, as in, be born from above. Born Again, is similar to that David Psalm 51:10 prayer about "renew a right spirit in me" because that is exactly what has happened. It is born again and/or a reawakening of the dead spirit man by God from above.

Gbadebo01:
bro this bible passage is talking about attitude not dressing. You sound like an accuser. I now understand the amount of work Jesus is doing for us in heaven.
Matthew 23: 25-26. But how dare you make such random accusation that she has dirt on the inside? Do u know her? Na you holy pass? You are making those conclusion based on her dressing alone then i believe you are very myopic in thinking and its off no use trying to broaden your perspective. But just one last thing please enlighten us on where in the bible that it says that trousers are for men and skirts are for ladies? Unless you provide this then you don't have a point and will never have a point.

Gbadebo01, this alBHAGDADI guy is my customer mi, daada ni, ọlọpọlọ dudu, tithe merchant validating, spreading and promoting obligatory or imposed ecclesiastical monitised tithing, ignoranus homophobic, legalistic brother. He will, please and kindly in a way that a two year old can understand, that's if at all he really knows, soon explain to us, the reason behind why, God said cross dressing is an abomination to Him?