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alBHAGDADI:
This is no card.

These are separate questions you are expected to answer just as I've been answering yours.

The energy you spent in creating this post would have been enough to answer the question.

I'll concluded you have no knowledge of the answers to the questions that's why you can't answer them.

Okay, I accept defeat. Oya answer the questions

Are you born again?
What does it mean to be born again?
Will you admit you don't know the answers to the questions?

"Why not allow homosexuals bust your anus because my girlfriend or wife wears my clothes."
- by alBHAGDADI: 1:24pm On Apr 01

"Shove your questions in your anus"
- by alBHAGDADI: 8:28pm on Apr 02

You are asking if someone like OkCornel is born again or not, when you obviously dont know what born again is all about. You are an ignoranus, no wonder you are unable to stop thinking about other people's anus

alBHAGDADI:
Why should I answer someone who loves the people God hates?

Shove your questions in your anus.

1/ Can I take it then that, if one of your kids, grandkids, nephews and/or nieces confide in you to having sexual attraction to only another of same sex as them, you will then see them to be worse than a piece of junk and would not love them, huh?
2/ Or maybe say, one of your kids, grandkids, nephews and/or nieces confide in you, that they are involved with an easy going, ordinary consenting adult and enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour, would you respond to them that there are worse than a piece of junk and so thereby would not love them, huh?

alBHAGDADI:
Are you saying that you love gays?

Gays are human beings, so yes, I love easy going, ordinary consenting adult and enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour. Now please, answer my three earlier asked questions

alBHAGDADI:
Gays are worse than a piece of junk

1/ Are you saying that, if one of your kids, grandkids, nephews and/or nieces confide in you to having sexual attraction to only another of same sex as them, you will then see them to be worse than a piece of junk?
2/ Or maybe say, one of your kids, grandkids, nephews and/or nieces confide in you, that they are involved with an easy going, ordinary consenting adult and enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour, would you respond to them that there are worse than a piece of junk?
3/ Is Alan Turning and/or Leo Varadkar, just to mention these two ony, worse than a piece of junk?

alBHAGDADI:
Churches in Nigeria don't run the government of the country. Churches don't even run the government of any country. But we do run the affairs of our churches.

Let's say you come to our church in America dressed like a woman thinking the old testament law against that has been done away with. We'll simply throw you out like a peace of junk even though gay rights exists in America. That shows that we decide what goes on in our church, but not in the rest of the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PQSZY1Zp-c

"Why not allow homosexuals bust your anus because my girlfriend or wife wears my clothes."
- by alBHAGDADI: 1:24pm On Apr 01

What an unintelligient comment to make. Your common sense is 0 inches long. The thing about common sense is that, its like deodorant, people who need it most never use it.
1/ So as far as you're concerned, gay persons are like a piece of junk to you, right?
2/ Is the church, a building or organic?

Empiree:
shadeyinka and sagenaija,

Do you agree with your fellow CHRISTIAN op?. He believes Old Testament is still valid 100% while you believe Old Testament is outdated. You believe your "abstract laws" are embedded in the "holy spirit" for you to follow. But op said exactly what Muslims have been saying. Who's a true Christian?.

Remember, op believes old testament Laws stand which is exactly what Jesus said but you are trying to run away from it.

Old laws are binding on you guys to follow.

Having abolished in his flesh the enmity,
even the law of commandments contained in ordinances;
to make in himself of two one new man, so making peace;
- Ephesians 2:15

Empiree "Customer mi daada ni", loosely translated means "My very good customer", the Old Testament is still valid 100% and the same Old Testament when is outdated and/or comes to the end of the period of its validity.

Empiree, it is a no-brainer, that the same God, who introduced the Old Testament Mosaic laws is same, who established the law of gravity and law of aerodynamics

However, if you honestly, dont see the correlation the law of gravity and law of aerodynamics has with the 613 Old Testament laws and/or the Mosaic 10 Laws of God, then here are five general ideas, they share

Connection #1:
The 613 Old Testament laws and/or the Mosaic 10 Laws of God, just like the law of gravity, is always there and will continue to exist

Connection #2:
What the law of gravity and law of aerodynamics have to do with the 613 Old Testament laws and/or the Mosaic 10 Laws of God, is that the 613 Old Testament laws and/or the Mosaic 10 Laws of God, (i.e. the law of sin & death) just like the law of gravity is, can be made inoperative

Connection #3:
Just like the law of gravity can be stopped, can be nullified, can be cancelled, can be done away with, so the 613 Old Testament laws and/or the Mosaic 10 Laws of God is

Connection #4:
Just like the law of aerodynamics, overcomes and goes beyond the limits of the the law of gravity,
so does this other wonderful and superior law that overcomes and goes beyond the limits of the 10 Laws of God (i.e. the Mosaic laws)

Connection #5:
The law of gravity is abolished in a plane's body by another law (i.e. the law of aerodynamics) in the same manner, just like the 613 Old Testament laws and/or the Mosaic 10 Laws of God mentioned in Ephesians 2:15 above, are abolished in Jesus' flesh by another law (i.e. the law of the Spirit of life)

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Moses' Teachings couldn't accomplish everything that God required.
But we have something else that gives us greater confidence and allows us to approach God
- Hebrews 7:19

For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ
- John 1:17

Certainly, sin shouldn't have power over you
because you're not controlled by laws (i.e. for you not under The Written Law) but by God's favor.
- Romans 6:14

Certainly, there is a curse on all who rely on their own efforts to live according to a set of standards because Scripture says,
"Whoever doesn't obey EVERYTHING that is written in Moses' Teachings is cursed."
- Galatians 3:10

For whoever keeps the whole Written Law and slips in one thing, he is condemned by the entire Law
- James 2:10

But now we have died to those laws that bound us
(i.e. we have been released or exempted from The Written Law)
God has broken their effect on us
so that we are serving in a new spiritual way, not in an old way dictated by written words (i.e. the Old Order Scriptures)
- Romans 7:6

So Christ has truly set us free.
Now make sure that you stay free, and don't get tied up again in slavery to the law.
- Galatians 5:1


I am not free from God's law but am under Christ's law. When in the air, flying, I am not free from the law of gravity but I am under the law of aerodynamics

Another good read is Romans 8:1-6. Now Empiree, a few epiphany questions for you:

#1 What is God?
What's your response going to be? Is God a Spirit? No or Yes?
#2 What then will His law be?
What's your response going to be? Will His law be ''The law of the Spirit''? No or Yes?
#3 What has the ''The law of the Spirit'' set us free from?
What's your response going to be? Has ''The law of the Spirit'' set is free from ''The law of sin and death''? No or Yes?
#4 What are some examples of the ''The law of sin and death''?
What's your response going to be? Is the ''The Ten commandments'' one of some examples the ''The law of sin and death''? No or Yes?

Now, lets go up a gear a bit or step a bit in deeper waters
#5 What is the law of gravity, what does it do and/or what is it all about?
#6 What is the law of aerodynamics, what does it do and/or what is it all about?
#7 Does the law of gravity produce any effect whilst the law of aerodynamics is being made use of?
What's your response going to be? No or Yes?

budaatum:
"ankh wedja seneb"

"Beloved, I pray that in all respects you may prosper and be in good health, just as your soul prospers (i.e. just as you are strong in spirit.)"
- 3 John 1:2

Agrogbeide:
Muttleylaff na Christian may Don go fall for Christendom fa. More grace bro.

Nwanne, I am not understanding you. Come down to my level and speak my language please

Agrogbeide:
@Mr Op God bless you because the post above has heightened my Faith in the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

Correct guy, your head dey there

alBHAGDADI:
So, because I have a girlfriend or wife that wears my clothes, you now feel it is right for you to disobey God's laws as if I'll be the one to stand in judgement.

You are not just only over spiritual but you are unduly legalistic as well

alBHAGDADI:
Why not allow homosexuals bust your anus because my girlfriend or wife wears my clothes.

What an unintelligient comment to make. Your common sense is 0 inches long. The thing about common sense is that, its like deodorant, people who need it most never use it.

alBHAGDADI:
Do you know what your kind is? You are a scorner who never accepts correction.

Proverbs 9:8 (KJV)
Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate thee: rebuke a wise man, and he will love thee.

I gave a holy advice, instead of you to accept it, you trampled on it and went ahead to attack me like the Swine and dog that you are.

Matthew 7:6 (KJV)
Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

You are a leopard, you cant get rid of your spots.

You know what alBHAGDADI, you are certified and bonafide hypocrite, if you have a girlfriend or are married, and your girlfriend or wife has at least on one occasion or more, worn your t-shirts, put on your boxer shorts, worn any of your caps etcetera. Oh you are too over spiritual to be caught up in all that romantic and luvy dovey jazz, right?

Horlufemi:
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Keep on deluding yourself, because that wasn't a daring title, it was a misleading caption, a not fair and square justified title

alBHAGDADI:
Is the battle field a place for a woman?

How does jeans protect from cold? Is there anything wrong in sewing a skirt using jeans material?

You can change your standard, but don't ever do same to God's standard.

alBHAGDADI, if you have a girlfriend or are married, please tell whether or not, your girlfriend or wife has ever worn your t-shirts, put on your boxer shorts, worn any of your caps etcetera

Horlufemi:
You are kinda boastful and you haven't said anything.

and you must have grown a very long nose after typing this

Horlufemi:
Awaiting your points let's see.

What points are you waiting to see, is it the one after I typed "you are my padi, so let's get things in the proper perspective, if Yes, God hates religion and truly that religion is the problem, please can you paste here for all to see and read, all the James 1:27 bible translations you possibly can find" or what?

You obliged and from that revealed that you lied that God hates religion, because James 1:27 clearly and specifically narrated the sort of religion God likes and/or approves of. The verse left no one one in doubt that God loves this particular sort of religion.

You dug yourself a hole further in the ditch by saying:"God want relationship not religion." sic which is another misleading bullshit. Then you went on a rant and rave about competing and arguing with yourself, deluding yourself that you are learning. Need I go on, need I say more points, huh?

Empiree:
quite unfortunate that you can't seem to figure out your contradictions. And you stooped low to compare Buhari in this regard. The question is who is Jesus?. God or man?

Your many Bible verses clearly show Jesus said God/Father is one and separate from him. But you ignored these verses and relied on isolated controversial verse which was misunderstood from Greek. I gave you example but you claimed I didn't apologize for it?.

All the Bible verses I posted conformed with Islam but you looked the other way. The reason for this is bcus you relied on a controversial verse that suits you.

My question is, if Jesus is man and God at the same time, who created Adam?

Jesus did not exist before Adam. Adam did not mention anything about Jesus. He mentioned God. Jesus can not be God and man at the same time. If that's the case, when he was a man on Earth who was in control of the heavens?. Did he put heavens on auto pilot?

To be a man is to have limitations. To be God is to have none. Which one was Jesus?.

So you can see very close resemblance btw theòs and otheòs. Very easy to swipe Jesus for God vice versa because Greeks were polytheists

1/ Are you by any stretch, implying that, it is impossible for God to be in two places at the same time?
2/ Are you, implying that it is impossible for God to project Himself?
3/ Are you implying that it is a hard thing for God to do becoming God and man at the same time?
4/ You say: "Jesus did not exist before Adam. Adam did not mention anything about Jesus. He mentioned God" but are you aware of Jesus' words that said: "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM" and the implication of that
5/ You do understand, agree and accept that Jesus is the Word, right? You do, huh?
6/ You asked: "when he was a man on Earth who was in control of the heavens?. Did he put heavens on auto pilot?"
Dont you know who is God the Father then?

TVSA:

Why are you gobsmacked my dear friend?

TVSA:
you got me when you said Jude didn't say Sodom and Gomorrah were involved in sexual immorality aND perversion. Except if sexual immorality and perversion means something other than "sexual immorality and perversion". Jude started by warning against men who take the grace of God for granted and became lascivious and he compared it to the deeds of Sodom and Gomorrah that led God to destroy them. But it seems you have a better understanding of the subject than Jude.

"¹But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves
²Many will follow their depraved conduct and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
³In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
⁴For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them in chains of darkness b to be held for judgment;
⁵if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
⁶if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
⁷and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the depraved conduct of the lawless
⁸(for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)—
⁹if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from trials and to hold the unrighteous for punishment on the day of judgment.
¹⁰This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the flesh and despise authority."
- 2 Peter 2:1-10

You are running the risk of letting the tail wag the dog with your approach to these two letters, you're smart, objective and intelligient enough to see and know that the focal point of Jude and Peter's letters were about false prophets and teachers making false and malicious comments, and so refuting the pseudepigraphal book of Enoch (i.e. the 1 Enoch book, referred to as the "Ethiopian Enoch" book) and refuting it with loads of hypothetical "if"s, about "sleeping with angels, sexual immorality and perversion in Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them" and at the end of them with "... if this is so, then..." concluding comment

Peter warned but Jude, the most neglected book in the bible, maybe, because its only 25 verses, repeated Peter at Jude 1:4, in saying that, what Peter warned about was now there with them and then now happening.

Are you aware TVSA, that the Book of Jude was rejected from the Canon of the Bible for a number of years? It wasnt until the 4th century that it was accepted as kosher, yet it still isn't understood at all but only travestied. TVSA, you ought to give it a thought, think about it carefully, what prompted them, why were Peter and Jude quoting from this pseudepigraphal book of Enoch

TVSA:
And talking about Abraham. You compared him to Isaac. But it's quite different. Isaac never repeated being Rebecca's brother after he had been "caught", there was no reason to "save" face when everything is out in the open. But it's quite different for Abraham. Abraham seems to insist that his sweetheart was indeed his sister. You said Abraham was "saving face" by lying that he married his sister, why didn't Isaac save face too? It seems from your explanation that Abraham was a messed up guy who kept lying and couldn't resist from it even when he's out of danger. And we couldn't differentiate between truth and lie from his statement. Pray, tell, what other things the Abraham lie about that you have a better understanding of?

Please dont be getting personal with this. It is an observational and undeniable fact, that Isaac, when he found himself in similar circumstances, repeated the same lie like his father. I respect Abraham in leaps and bounds, he is just as human as each and/or any of us, so I hold nothing against him. I merely was only calling a spade a spade and not a fork. Pray, tell, do you find anything wrong in me saying and/or doing that?

Now, as per to dish the dirt, you trying so hard goading me to do and to spill the beans on Abraham, nah, no can do, suffice to say the God of glory appeared to Abraham while he was still in Mesopotamia, before he lived in Haran, Abraham hearkened, the rest is history and how we are having this discourse TVSA.

OLAADEGBU:
I am beginning to wonder who brought the gospel to the likes of king Babalola, the Olubadan of Ibadan and why the CAC seems to be indigenous.

Nwanne, this is like asking who brought the gospel to Rev Ransome Kuti, that is Fela Anikulapo Kuti's father

Well it happens that HRH King Isaac Babalola Akinyele was a younger sibling to Bishop Alexander Babatunde Akinyele. Their parents were one of early converts under the auspices of David Hinderer, the German leader of the Church Missionary Society (CMS) and his team of six missionaries that first brought Christianity to Ibadan in 1851. Here is another let on about HRH King Isaac Babalola Akinyele, he joined Faith Tabernacle the precursor of the Apostolic Church directed by English Missionaries before transitioning finally to Christ Apostolic Church, that happened to be the first Aladura Pentecostal Church in Nigeria. Apparently it is their indigenious factor that captivated and/or wooed him to CAC

Have more interesting read from below pdf link, like pages 68, 90, 115, 116, 133, 134 and 193
http://www.cycledoctoralfactec.com/uploads/7/9/0/7/7907144/[rufus_ositelu]_african_instituted_churches._diver.pdf

Horlufemi:
Bobo no energy to discuss anymore. Just can't deal right now.

This is because lies run sprints, but the truth runs marathons

Horlufemi:
This isn't a competition. I'm not for arguments either. We are all learning.

You free to compete with yourself, no one is stopping you arguing with yourself. No you arent learning, you are incorrigble.

Horlufemi:
Drop your points we go dey alright las las

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You cant handle the truth

Brock1:
In ur view of our current generation, are we better and stronger now?

Everyday we get better and stronger, and yes, sexual promiscuity, decandence, debauchery etcetera is in the midst of it

OLAADEGBU:
Could this be the reason why the Western region of Nigeria seem to be more civilised than the rest of the country?

The catholic made in roads in the Eastern region too. The Yoruba, before any outside influence came to its shores and land, are just naturally intelligient lot. Having "odu ifa" among many other things, is a testament to this intelligence.

Horlufemi:
There's nothing I will explain that you'll understand. Sometimes we need to unlearn and relearn. Everything is self explanatory. Just try to meditate you'll get it. You'll get it in your own time. Shalom bro.

"Yes, God hates religion…
I will give you Biblical support for that statement in a moment.
Someone may be thinking “I thought God invented religion!” Sorry, but God invented Man and Man invented religion."
- by Horlufemi(m): 6:59am On Feb 13, 2016 ©

This is exactly what empty barrels say and do, making loud noise. "Lu pangolo and se ariwo kọ ni music", loosely translated means "Making noise upandan the place, isnt necessarily making good music"

OLAADEGBU:
Were you ever aware that the famed "Babalola" of CAC was once the Olubadan of Ibadan?

Yes, I did and not only that but know the schools named after him too at Oke Ado

kkins25:
Hahaha.. Thanks for the corncern and advice. Dont worry about me, this thoughts were caused by the OP, I've only just conjured them up. Its entertaining for a little while though. Greetings dear one.

The mind knows no boundaries. Don't blame me sir.

The mind is a beautiful servant or a dangerous master. For him who has conquered the mind, the mind is the best of friends; but for one who has failed to do so, the very mind will be the greatest enemy. Make sure your worst enemy doesn't live between your own two ears

Horlufemi:
God want relationship not religion.

You need to understand

Religion requires you to do to be righteous (ability) set rules to follow.

Relationship allows you to do because it's who you are.

Man created religion.

God requires both, He requires a horizontal and vertical relationship. The horizontal relationship needs religion, that is true, pure and faultless to be effective and valid. Man have created many false religions that God doesnt approve of nor necessarily requires

Brock1:
it written in d Bible, woe unto d inhabitants of the earth, because Satan has been sent down to the earth, because he rebelled against God. Why didn't God leave Satan in heaven with him and deal with him there than casting him down to humans that are not as strong as God?

It is because that is the best way to deal with Satan and the thing that made him rebel against God. Also Satan casted down to humans will make them end up a better and stronger human(s)

Horlufemi:
James 1:27 Parallel Verses
James 1:27, NIV: "Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world."

James 1:27, ESV: "Religion that is pure and undefiled before God the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their affliction, and to keep oneself unstained from the world."

James 1:27, KJV: "Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world."

James 1:27, NASB: "Pure and undefiled religion in the sight of our God and Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their distress, and to keep oneself unstained by the world."

James 1:27, NLT: "Pure and genuine religion in the sight of God the Father means caring for orphans and widows in their distress and refusing to let the world corrupt you."

James 1:27, CSB: "Pure and undefiled religion before God the Father is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself unstained from the world."

What does James 1:27 mean?
In the previous verse, James called out anyone who labels themselves as religious, but doesn't control their tongues—their words. Such people are lying to themselves. What this implies is that it is not enough to participate in religious ceremonies, keep a few commands, or refer to ourselves as a religious followers. So far as Christianity is concerned, obedience to God is meant to be followed down to the level of every word we speak.

James lived in a very religious time in history. He was born into the religion of Judaism, a political-religious system instituted by God Himself. It had been corrupted over time by its human leadership, leading to great misunderstanding about who God was and what He wanted from His people. In addition, the culture of that era was packed with religions that included the worship of all kinds of idols and false gods. All of them had specific rules and practices. All of them gave people a false sense of security in exchange for money or loyalty or ritualistic obedience. None of them was pure or undefiled religion.

Now, though, James writes that there is a form of religious expression that is still pure and undefiled before God. It is simple, though not easy: show up with the widows and orphans in their suffering. Help them. And don't let yourself be polluted or stained by the world.

As with other verses, we need to carefully understand the point at hand. James is not restricting "right religion" to only literal care for literal widows and orphans. At the time James wrote, these represented society's most helpless members. Widows, in that culture, were women who had lost their husbands prior to bearing children. This left them destitute. Children without parents, and women without husbands, were among that culture's most needy. According to this verse, "pure" religion is defined as caring for those who are in need, and avoiding the sins of the world.

When the New Testament speaks of "the world," it usually means the "world system." This is the fallen, sin-soaked attitude of humanity, which rejects God and opposes His wisdom. Later in this letter, James will describe worldly wisdom as bitter envy and selfish ambition. To be unstained by the world means that we refuse to be driven by our own appetites and desires and selfish goals. It means not compromising with a system that hates God. Just as James pointed out in James 1:5–8, the world's wisdom is not like God's.

With this, James is also implying that it's very difficult to practice pure and undefiled religion before God…unless we see some serious changes inside of us. Merely planning to follow the right list of regulations is not enough.

Context Summary
James 1:19–27 emphasizes that those who truly trust God don't settle for merely appearing religious. They give up trying to control the world with their words and their anger. They humbly receive the Word God has planted in them, listen to it, and proceed to do what it says. Part of what the Word says to us is that we should keep control over our words, to care for those who are weak and suffering, and to keep ourselves from being polluted by the world around us.

It's apparent the religion that God our Father doesnt accept as pure and faultless is false religion.
Yes, God loves religion

OLAADEGBU:
OBA AKINYELE

There once lived a King in Nigeria, the Southwestern part, Ibadan to be precise, who stood for Christ and shut the mouth of the devil.

Oba Sir Isaac Babalola Akinyele, KBE (18 April 1882 – 30 May 1964) was the first educated Olubadan (non-hereditary traditional ruler) of Ibadan, and the second Christian to ascend the throne.

I read about Oba Akinyele, the first CAC (Christ Apostolic Church) President, the king who stopped using his cap.

In those days, no one dared to confront satan or his institutions in the kingdom of Ibadan, the tradition in those days could not outrightly be separated from satanism.

Human sacrifice and other occult practices were very predominant

The king after meeting Jesus, ordered the abolition of many of the occultic practices.

He stood his ground despite the opposition from almost the whole Ibadan land. He stood for Jesus, believing Him without an iota of doubt.

One day after settling disputes brought to the palace in the presence of the chiefs, unknown to him that charms have been sprinkled on his seat before he came in.
He couldn't stand up from the seat, glued down, the chiefs began to mock him, where is your God but you claimed that He has all power.

The King looked at them, he started reciting Psalm 24 and at the end, he said "I rise up in the name of Jesus", and moved his body, immediately the charm was nullified.
The chief went home ashamed, most of them later gave their life to Jesus.

Another one was a year that a horse was to convey him to a ceremony, unknown to him, the occults in the city had placed a charm on the horse. They employed drummers who beat the drum with charms to make the horse die while carrying the King.

Actually the standing order was that horse must not fall nor die conveying the king, else the king would be rejected, the whole city was watching as the horse began to misbehave and started crying with water gushing out of its eyes.

Fear gripped the whole city, the occult men were already jubilating that his end has come.

Baba David Babajide and other young evangelist at the scene began to sing...
*"�agbara Re ga ju ti ota lo oooo, imo Re ga ju tesu lo, Olorun ko seun ti ni o, oso aiye kan kole di o lona ise Re, agbara Re ga ju ti ota lo.�"*
(Meaning ...... "your power is greater than enemy, your knowledge is higher than the devil. You're a God of all possibilities, no sorcerer can stop you. Your power is greater than enemy"

The whole populace erupted the song started by Baba Babajide, dew began to fall during mid day, the horse began to walk majestically, crying like a baby.

When Baba Akinyele was conveyed to the end, the charmers had no choice than to surrender to the Kingship of Jesus and since that day, they stopped engaging Baba Akinyele.

RAW faith provoke RAW miracles.

May we return to this era of tearing the dart of the devil with RAW faith like our fathers of old.
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If a king could go all out for God, and be doggedly obedient to Christ in the midst of idolaters, what's your excuse?

That is a king, unlike the confused one and his married "prophetess" wife.

kkins25:
The theist concept of God as portrayed by My anonymous friend mr MuttleyLaff, is somewhat incomprehensible by the human mind because the entity(s), viz; the Godhead or/and Allah, make themself(elves) or itself logically incomprehensible.

They readily submit to a foriegn religious doctrine imported by our slave masters who brilliantly utilized the power of YVHW to convert us-pagans, inferior specie/race(as depicted by the europeans) into the beautiful Christian "field plucker", "dispensable minners", etc.

The most fascinating part of the whole tale is that YVHW empowered the whites( it make one wonder if God is racist) to conquer the inferior black(as believed by the whites) just like he did for his precious children-the isrealites, the true white lineage. God never changes does he?

Now, God(Yahweh) has given us a choice, either you "believe" or you "die". This so called wise God never considered the fact that this same operus mandi is been utilized by other entities whom claim to also be the Most high like UBANJIGI, OLODUMARE, ZEUS, ALLAH, RA, Thanos(lol) just to name a few.


Another logical pandemonium. This issue been discussed has turned the whole world into a pandemonium. God did it! Gods not dead!


Lets do some philosophy shall we

In the universe, each and every entity is a monad, buda, muttley, loj are all monads existing at a point in spacetime. the first cause is being referred to as "THE MONAD". Some say *ein sof*, yaweh, allah etc. But the nomenclature doesn't matter.

The heoric monads of physics like Sir isaac newton, Albrrt Einstein, telsa, etc have carried out, previously thought - incomprehensible thoughts/thinking and have unveiled that the universe is indeed omnipresent. We are not just in the universe but the universe is in us. In more scientific terms, we are made up of spacedust. The universe is the alpha and omega, the uncreated. The essence in which all of life and existence is/be, is the universe.

Now each monad must exist in "A space and time" or a cordinates in the geometry of the infinite universe. Its is written, "in the beginning... GOD CREATED..." which means nothing existed. But, does the writer of that famous verse really know what "nothing" means?

Do the subscribers of theistic belief ever wonder what was the time gap between the "time" God was and the time God created.
Does God also experience today and tomorrow? Or rather, does God have a past and a future? What is God's past, what would be his/its future?

"My philosophy is the sword that would pierce through the heart of theism until it bleeds out ever ounce of blindness"
Kkins(2019) .

"we cannot comprehend God because we keep searching for more good adjectives to define him with" - kkins(2019)


"if all souls agree that - they can't concur on the concept of God, then God's infinite domain is within the minds of each soul" - kkins(2019)

Lets continue with analysis.

if God can cruise through the past, present and future then does this affect other monads? Can God alter the past of another? If yes then he is not knowledgeable of the future. If no, then he is not omnipresent after all. Should i explain my philosophy?

God is depicted to exist in three modes, namely, sage mode, jinchiruki mode, six paths mode- ooooops sorry, i meant Father son and holy spirit. However this again throws logic into a cyclone. When God exist as the son, what happens to the other modes?
If they are made up of the same essence, then shouldn't they be of equal power? Why do two of them subscribe or voluntary bow to the will of one(the father)..
Becareful which words you use to reply. Also bold the question you choose to answer. Please MuttleyLaff, answer mine befor you asks your.

This my dear friend kkins25 will bark at everything, even if something isn't there, he'll still just bark at trees. Thinking is good, as you are to think God over but not overthink God, so stop overthinking, as overthinking, leads to negative energy and thoughts and you only be creating problems that aren’t in the first place there with it. Overthinking ruins you. It is a poison that kills and gradually narrows your horizon. It ruins situations, twists things around, makes you worry, just makes everything much worse than it actually is and dragging you to deep dark abyss. So don't overthink dear friend nwanee kkins25, just overflow with good vibes and dont spoil the good moods

TVSA:
I never said Sodom was destroyed because they wanted to rape angels. The problem was, Sodom had a group of depraved people. Group of people don't just wake up one day and try and rape other men. It must have been their practice to commit sexual perversion.

Yup, just as I earlier said that they werent generally a hospitable lot

TVSA:
Ezekiel talked about many sins, I agree, but it was also stated there that they did detestable things

Ah ha, now tell please, what were the detestable things they did?

TVSA:
Why did you assume Lot was angry with the people because they were inhospitable?

"But the men of Sodom were wicked and sinners before the LORD exceedingly."
- Genesis 13:13

Lot was angry for not realising the grass is actually always greener on the other side, just because of the bullshit beneath and crap on the land. TVSA, remember that Lot earlier, had lifted up his eyes, and saw all the plain of the Jordan, that it was well-watered everywhere, like the garden of the LORD, like the land of Egypt, as you go to Zoar and so picked the area, this obviously was before God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah.

Now tell me TVSA, is it hospitable people that will force themselves on visitors or guests and to make matters worse, do it without their consent or permission, huh?

TVSA:
when Peter and Jude already explained that the sin of Sodom was Sexual immorality.

If I dont know you TVSA, I would have accused you of being haughty just like Sodom and Gomorrah were, but I know you arent. Please stop cherry picking TVSA, because the truth is that Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed for a plethora of sins, like adultery and walking in falsehood for example. Everything I type I've so far typed about Sodom and Gomorrah, is documented and backed up by the bible

You're coming across as being overly more interested in the sexual immorality than be fazed or bothered about Sodom and Gomorrah's adultery and walking in falsehood, being haughty, arrogant, overfed, greedy, unconcerned and not taking care of the poor and needy

Now TVSA, Peter and Jude were not explaining that the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah was sexuality immorality. What they were talking about are those teaching that angels had sexual union with human beings. For crying out loud, Peter and Jude are decrying false teachers and their heresies. Their letters have nothing to do with sexual immorality(ies), but were all about refuting the book of Enoch and with loads of hypothetical "if"s

TVSA:
"Sodomite" was used in the bible to describe sexual perverts (specifically, male cult prostitutes) not people that were not hospitable.

I am ecstatically happy you brought this up because it points to you knowing your onions and one or two things about the "sodomites", especially when and where you made it less confusing and more understandable by using the phrase "male cult prostitutes" I am quite sure, you likely already know about the mistranslations and lies perpetrated over the passage of time with "sodomites" too. I am equally sure, you know what exactly God found detestable and/or to be an abomination to Him with this Sodomite hanky-panky sexual misbehaviour.

TVSA:
And talking about Abraham and Abimelech, this is the Conclusion of their meeting. Abraham states that Sarah, his wife, is really his sister, leading Abimelech to try to take Sarah as a wife; however, God intervened before Abimelech touched Sarah. Abimelech complains to Abraham, who states that Sarah is actually his half sister and wife. So my question is why will Abraham lie again that Sarah was his sister?

I've already told you guilty conscience, ego and because he badly needed to save face with Abimelech. I also asked, if you at all, read Genesis 11:31

The apple doesnt fall far from the tree, Isaac repeated this unexpected lying family trait about his wife too. Strange isnt that TVSA, all these passing off wives as their sisters?

TVSA:
that Terah refer to Sarah as daughter in law doesn't mean she's not his daughter. Abraham said Sarah wasn't from his mother, so Sarah could have been a bastard in the family.

I literally laughed out loud at this your comment. TVSA you no dey carry last. You try sha. Sarah could have been a bastard in the family, indeed.

TVSA:
why will Abraham lie again after God had warned Abimelek in a dream and punished his household.

The first lie I am referring to is the one he lied to Pharaoh, and not the second and third, two lies he told Abimelech

TVSA:
it does not make any sense for Abraham to lie again to the guy. There was nothing to cover up again

Guilty conscience and because he doesnt want to lose face
Did you read Genesis 11:31?

TVSA:
are you saying Peter and Jude were wrong for saying Sodom was destroyed for their sexual immorality in 2 Pet 2:6-9 and Jude 1:7. And where is it in the bible that inhospitability is a capital crime?

Will you for a minute, be objective here, huh. Lets take it for granted, yes Sodom and Gomorrah, has sexual immorality problems, but the fact still remains, that they were already earmarked for destruction and this primarily was for being inhospital. The decision to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah had already been made the attempted rape, the lusting after a neighbour's body and trying to have carnal knowledge without consent, that was insult upon injury, like adding salt to a wound. The city had already been decided to be destroyed before this their wicked, insensitive act and madness

TVSA:
And where is it in the bible that inhospitability is a capital crime?

"⁴⁹Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
⁵⁰They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen."
- Ezekiel 16:49-50

Anywhere, wherever and whenever God decides like in Ezekiel 16:49-50 above for example

TVSA:
The angels were already in Sodom for the purpose of destroying the cities Gen 19:13.

That is correct, but the decision to destroy the city was made known at Gen 18:17-33. The angels were there at Gen 19:13 already in the city to destroy it but the attempted rape and the trying to have carnal knowledge with another without their consent was like the case of someone another wants to barbecue but the someone is rubbing petrol all over his/her body.

TVSA:
We all know the punishment for sexual perversion.

Give the punishments for the list of these rich and inexhaustible examples of this sexual perversion please.

TVSA:
Muttleylaff, soddom and gomorrah were destroyed because of sexual immorality Jude 1:7. And read the discussion between Abraham and Abimelek again in genesis 20. The conclusion was that they were both half siblings and couples, after abraham told the whole truth.

TVSA, let me repeat again, Sodom and Gomorrah were already earmarked for destruction and this primarily was for being inhospital. It had nothing originally to do with the attempted rape, the lusting after a neighbour's body and trying to have carnal knowledge without consent, that was insult upon injury, like adding salt to a wound. The city had already been decided to be destroyed before their insensitive act and madness

Also, like, I already and earlier said, Abram's case, was once you start with a lie, you need another lie to cover yourself up with. He lied to Abimelech the first time, and also lied another lie, the second time

CrescentMoon:
An angelic man visited me in a dream. Before him, two others claimed to be angels but they failed my tests (I asked them random questions).

What are the random questions you asked.

CrescentMoon:
When I was satisfied the last man was an angel, I asked him how to test spirits and he led me to 1 John 4:2. I was very excited.

"You say you have faith, for you believe that there is one God. Good for you! Even the demons believe this, and they tremble in terror."
- James 2:19

Nwanne, as you can see from James 2:19 above about Jesus is God, that even demons know this too, so now, are you sure of what came masquerading as an angel of light there to you?

CrescentMoon:
Then I asked for his name and he told me. I know what that character is well known for in the Bible and I asked for his gift. He touched my head and said "done".

An angel willing and easily telling you his name should have raised a red flag. You not being naturally afraid of an angel addressing you should have raised a red flag. Two angels names are mentioned in the Bible, was the name given any of the two?

CrescentMoon:
I forgot to ask for every other things I wished for in this life.

You asked the wrong person for things you wish for in life

CrescentMoon:
Then he said, "Your have been given a new name which is " - - ". I googled that name and didn't find any meaning for it except that it's a surname in Indonesian language. I connected Indonesians on Facebook who bear the surname to tell me the meaning. None of them granted the request. What do you think, bro?

Only God gives new names, and only you to your fruit of the womb, give new names, as in, like how Jacob changed Benjamin's name, changed it for a good and valid reason too.

VBCampaign:
MuttleyLaff has met his match in mysticism

Na wa ooo. The thing just tire me.

orisa37:
Please where in the Book did either God or Christ specifically forbid Incest?

OpenYourEyes1:
'Cursed be anyone who lies with his sister, whether the daughter of his father or the daughter of his mother.’ And all the people shall say, ‘Amen.’ - Deuteronomy 27:22

Inbreeding not good for the genes anyway.

Thank you for that verse

TVSA:
Abraham married his sister not niece GEN 20:12

In light of Genesis 11:31 , it is obvious, that Abram lied, and a second time, lied another again

OpenYourEyes1:
Gen20:12 Abraham actually lied to a king to protect his wife

Lied to protect his skin, and as usual, because he lacked faith that God will protect him if it being known the beautiful woman is his wife

TVSA:
And there were 10 generations between the flood and Abraham, that is around 400 years. There were much people around already and some notable nations have already been formed. why must he marry his sister?

Endogamy is the reason why

TVSA:
And what is the excuse about the incest law coming later?

The DNA block has degenerated. It no longer is wise to embrace that route anymore

TVSA:
soddom and gommorah were destroyed for their acts of perversion

Sodom and Gomorrah were already earmarked for destruction and this primarily was for being inhospital. The attempted rape, the lusting after a neighbour's body and trying to have carnal knowledge without consent was insult upon injury, like adding salt to a wound

TVSA:
but there was no law against homosexuality at that time.

There never was any law per se against homosexuality, against homosexuality as we know it, TVSA

TVSA:
WTH is Jasher? I thought we were discussing the bible. Isn't bible the final authority again?

Genesis 11:31 is bible as they come. Terah, took his daughter-in-law Sarai, the wife of his son Abram, making the disntinction very clear, didnt say daughter but said daughter in law