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Baddiezz:
Lol I was only confused cause I didn't make that comment, I'm not very active here and a few people have my password and tend to troll

That is a complete no no thing and not to do, as passwords are meant to personal, same way private parts are, you dont give to others, except of course if you are doing the jiggy jiggy unaimean business.

So you accept the profile was adjusted and changed to look bigger and more prominent then, yeah?

TATIME:
What churchgoers don't know is just too much to explain without a one on one discussion where both the one teaching and the one learning MUST see each other often!
Just imagine, BORN AGAIN! Isn't it funny that a supposed intellectual couldn't grasp that being BORN naturally has nothing to do with the effort of the child!
You just find yourself on earth because your parents WISH to have you since God has declared that all living creatures multiply according to their kind.
Now BORN AGAIN which is determined ONLY by the WISH of the heavenly father, churchgoers are disputing over who should be or not be BORN AGAIN!
Whereas being born again was thoroughly explained for the understanding of all first century Christians. Both the Lord Jesus and Apostle Paul made it clear that it doesn't depend on the effort of any Christian to be BORN by God's holy spirit!
Well i don't blame them since they don't even know what being a Christian means, how are they going to know the meaning of being a BORN AGAIN Christian?

In youth we learn, in age we understand. Certain truths, can only be clearly seen or understood with the wisdom of age and grace of God

Christi-anos or Christian is a misnomer for believers, saints, brothers, sisters and/or disciples

Acts 11:26, Acts 26:28 and 1 Peter 4:16 are the only three places in the bible, where the term "Christi-anos" or Christian, is found, and on each of those three occasion, the term was used in a belittling, derogatory and rebuffing context or manner. No where in the bible, will it ever be found, any of the disciples, believers, Paul or Peter, say, I am a CHRISTIAN... and its just the same way, neither you, TATIME or Maximus69 wont say about yourselves: I am a NIGGER. Neither of the disciples nor the apostles called themselves Christians, it was the mischievous people of Antioch, known for giving people nicknames, that first called the believers that "Christi-anos" or Christian word. TATIME or Maximus69, once you learn to properly read the bible, you'll be free forever and not dependent on the GB and/or traditions of men.

achorladey:
Concerning Acts 11:26 I spotted the "DIVINE PROVIDENCE" from New World Translations and the Young's Literal Translation "DIVINELY CALLED".but many others cited on Biblehub that divine Providence is absent.

They are doing "wuruwuru magomago" to the answer

achorladey:
Regarding the illustrations contained in the remaining part of your post I indeed understand the point you expressed.

"A mọ ara wa, ti a ba rira wa" loosely translated means "we recognise & know ourselves when we bump into each other"

achorladey:
Just to add, at least from what you highlighted above I can safely say Jesus said categorically the below......

Jesus answered, “I tell you the solemn truth, UNLESS a person is BORN of WATER and SPIRIT, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. 
6 What is born of the flesh is flesh, and what is born of the Spirit is spirit. 
7 Do not be amazed that I said to you, ‘You MUST all be BORN from ABOVE or BORN AGAIN.

Before you go on to your area of emphasis, think about these:
1/ What was the comment made by Nicodemus, as in, what was his question and the reason for the clandestine meeting in the dead of the night or wee hours of the morning, he had with Jesus?

achorladey:
My area of emphasis here is the part you have equally drawn my attention to is

"you are better off being BORN AGAIN than being christian."

You don't have to go further and I indeed get this part of your post that carries this ANALOGY below

to be honest with you, this TABLE with LOTS of CHRISTIAN PEOPLE standing on it, will have CASUALTIES, if shaken, left to me I rather do it on an ULTRASONIC level.

Hahahahahaha e get as e be oooo. Who know na him know oooooo. I hope my laughter won't get to cause a lot of entropy that could tip the boat over or ground the boat.

achorladey, trust me, if only more christians, properly read their bibles, there'd be less christians. Do they really believe that Agrippa & the people of Antioch revered Jesus that much, they called the disciples or believers ''Christ-like''? Not if in the know and understand what Agrippa & the people of Antioch meant by the term Christi-anos or Christian, abi?

Anyway, lets leave bullshit for bullshit collector, and for a moment achorladey, dip and dangle our feet, a little bit in deep end waters, not many are aware that born again precedes and preceded salvation. Fact is, in order to receive and get the gift of salvation, you'll first, have to be born again, be regenerated, as in, be born from above. Now, the disciples, Nicodemus and a lot others were already born again before getting the gift of salvation. It is highly unlikely, anyone will be born again and not have or get the gift of salvation, as anyone truly born again, receives the gift of salvation, and they will not only see the demonstrations & power of the kingdom of God but ultimately will enter into the kingdom of God

Scoffers, mockers, cynics, pagans etcetera dont and never see anything good about the kingdom and that's because they are not born again, they are not born from above, and so are not spiritually rebirthed. It's more the reason, we have atheists, it is because regeneration has not taken place in them and this why they rubbish and/or never want to acknowledge any demonstrations or power of the kingdom of God

Born again and salvation, though are not in the same category, they nonetheless are related

Notice in John 3:12-13, how Jesus is trying to get Nicodemus convinced, telling Nicodemus not to fight the belief, because it is obvious Nicodemus still was wrestling with the thought of accepting whom Jesus really is

Let's not forget that Nicodemus was a Pharisee and the Pharisees' idea of what the Messiah is and what His Kingdom would be, is different to majority of everyone's else, so Nicodemus' concern and bone of contention was, who is Jesus?. He wasnt 100% sure, if Jesus is the Messiah or not and so that was the reason for Nicodemus' clandestine and dead of the night visit, to seek the truth, to find out for himself, to know who Jesus is and isnt. He is already born again, without even realising

In the course of the meeting, Nicodemus, aside from his enquirying questions, had a problem with understanding the concept of regeneration, as the born again concept, didnt publicly need to be taught nor preached by Jesus because it is a straightforward fact and done deal affair thing, and so Jesus, incidentally was seriously surprised that Nicodemus who happens to be a teacher, didnt know about born again nor knew that born again can be a prerequisite for salvation. Seeing God's kingdom and entering into God's kingdom are not synonymous. They might be related terms, but they certainly dont have the same meaning, so Jesus explained what the criteria for entering into God's kingdom is (i.e. man be born of water and of the Spirit...) to Nicodemus

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TATIME:
Good day Maximus, i'm using this medium to say " You are welcome to the club of argumentators!"
After noticing the wisdom in your comments he called you "a god"!. Act 14:12
He even cited the event at Genesis where Satan promised Eve that they will become like God, yet he couldn't notice that he is now acting in place of Satan who wanted humans to become arrogant and see themselves as know~all! Genesis 3:5
Now that you're trying to direct him to where he also could receive what you have RECEIVED, he finds it hard to agree! 1Corinthians 4:7
Instead of listening to learn he now feels like spewing the gibberish his pastors taught him that has rendered him unwise rather than become like you!
Well you reminded me of the admonition from Jesus' brothers and i have decided to remain obedient to the Governing Body of God's chosen people!

Maximus69:
Hmmm thanks Sir, now i know why the GB admonished that we don't engage people on social media if they're not ready to learn!
See you later Sir, my regards to your wife and the congregation of God!

Bunch of two clowns, just without the painted faces & the real red rosy cheek trademark smiles

CodeTemplar:
Islamist are descendants of Abraham but of the bond-woman and this is symbolic of their exclusion in the promise, that covers hitherto Gentiles, like us(me inclusive). This was what Paul was talking of in Romans 9 : 6 - 13

Romans 9:6-13, as in Paul, is talking about, a God choice, talking of God's preference, talking of how God wanted to do and go about the matter of whose lineage to use for the salvation of man. God had promised it will be Abraham through Sarah, that He will give this blessing but they almost scuttled it, with thinking that it is impossible, that Sarah is past her best days to have a child and/or that delay is a denial.

Baddiezz:
Lol obo was born in november....

"With Boyfriend Davido To Celebrate His Birthday: Didn't know I share a birthday with Davido
- by Baddiezz(f): 12:20am On Nov 21, 2018

The internet never forgot that Nov 21 2018 comment. You obviously aren't a fan since you didn't know he jestfully is called frog voice

Baddiezz:
and what's new on the profile? I changed nothing

It's adjusted and changed to look bigger and more prominent

Baddiezz:
Thank ya....BTW who is frog voice?

OBO is, not badly behaving but that's how his voice is, isnt it?
I cant believe someone was comparing him with Fela and then adding salt to injury, said he is better than Fela, the abami Eda.

PS: Na wa ooo, did you go back to adjust your profile or is it my eyes or imagination ni?

GreatResearcher:
these ones u listed are works of great scientists which most of them dont believe in ur god

If some like you've just admitted believe in God, then that suits me and is just fine too that at least we have some that do believe in God

GreatResearcher:
Tell me the ones ur god has done or ur men of god

1/ Ben Carson, the first neurosurgeon to successfully separate conjoined twins joined at the head
2/ Gerhard Ertl, 2007 Nobel Prize winner in Chemistry. He is quoted in an interview to say: "I believe in God. (...) I am a Christian and I try to live as a Christian (...) I read the Bible very often and I try to understand it".
3/ James M. Tour, Chao Professor of Chemistry at Rice University, Texas, quoted to have written: "I build molecules for a living, I can't begin to tell you how difficult that job is. I stand in awe of God because of what he has done through his creation. Only a rookie who knows nothing about science would say science takes away from faith. If you really study science, it will bring you closer to God"
4/ Larry Wall, he created the Perl programming language
5/ Joseph Lister (1827–1912): British surgeon, famous for the Listerine mouthwash and a pioneer of antiseptic surgery.

All knowledge, all positive know how(s) comes from God GreatResearcher.

GreatResearcher:
MuttleyLaff: the thread is about a religion prohibiting anything that makes its followers 'reason' use their brains hence making them gullible

""Come now, and let us reason together," says Yahweh:
"Though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow.
Though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool."
- Isaiah 1:18

GreatResearcher, maybe that religion, prohibits anything that makes its followers reason, but you can see from at least Isaiah 1:18 above that God entertains and welcome cerebral, respectful and healthy dialogues

GreatResearcher:
If theists are not gullible and senseless, why would a sensible person being a HIV + walks into a crowd of chumps and one scamer placed his hands on him and told him he's HIV - and he walks home and stop taking his drugs? No common sense to even go to a hospital and verify if he's truly -.

Well its the kind of world we live in GreatResearcher. The bible in Matthew 24:24 says: "For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders that would deceive even the elect, if that were possible."

Ishilove:
It's not mushiness, dear Muttley. It's a sincere and objective observation.

Kindness is seeing the good, in others, when they themselves, can't see it in them. You are a kind soul. Thank you,
and now I am feeling giddy

Ishilove:
You are very sweet

[img]https://s2/images/MuttleyDriveLaff.gif[/img]
Ishilove, dont start,
please stop being mushy on me

GreatResearcher:
The one that was something close to the bible miracle was later proved to be fake. 'The resurrection of a dead man in SA'. This makes one wonder, is it that the resurrection miracle in d bible was fake or d god of then isnt d god of now?

Did you read in the Bible about organ transplants, huh? Did you read in your Bible about any actual mountain earth moving and/or about Rotherhithe Tunnel, the world's first underground tunnel under a river, huh? Did you read in the Bible about separation of Siamese twins, huh? Did you read in the Bible about aircrafts moving people about, huh? Did you read in the Bible about people like you and I conversing with each other on computers, smartphone and/or laptops, huh? Need I go on? Need I say more, huh? I can but am sensing you're that clever to get the drift

Baddiezz:
smiles, thank you

Have a blast, may you have good success, be in good health, and prosper, even as your soul proper too, on this remarkable & memorable day.

Is it really true, you share birth date with frog voice?

GreatResearcher:
what I see on the news are:

1. Pastor raping a 6yr old girl.

2. Human skull found in a church

3. Member accused pastor of sleeping with his wife.

Are there any things other dan these?

You are doing selective seeing, watching the wrong news and watching too much the wrong people making bad and unpalatable news. All you highlighted above are not exclusive to pastors and churches alone

GreatResearcher:
Most of the things that happened in the bible dont/cant happen again. Like the sending down of fire, three guys in fire, man in lion's den, no rain for 3yrs, sea divided. Does it mean the god of today isnt the god of those days?

Greater things than happened in the Bible are increasingly happening every day my dear good friend, which planet are you living on? Don't you watch the news, watch and read the internet, catch up on periodical publications?

Oops daisy anti spam bot is getting fidgety, be careful what you type y'all.

GreatResearcher:
u haven't met what? Gullible people? Who with is common sense would believe a 60yr old man built an ark that contains all creatures intwos? Who, if not gullible would believe that a man using his feet was faster than a chariot?

Well, I know you meant to type almost 600 years old instead of 60 years old man. Anyway, would believe a near 600 years old man whose living and health lifestyle was totally different to the 21st century's. Both physically and spiritually, Noah kept himself pure and/or disciplined himself. Remember it was only him among his generation that shunned the daughters of men.

A man using his feet was faster than a chariot? Yeah, those were extra-ordinary men, back in the day, there were few and far in between men like that then. Men arent made in that way, no more and nowadays like men like Elijah. Hollywood tried reminiscing that event with Forrest Gump movie's "Run Forrest run" scene

Baddiezz:
why did you repeat my post?

Happy Birthday to you. Your liberality is admirable, however when next you ever let your head down, please, please, please let it be not just to only and alone admire your shoes, but to lift and bring a knocked down on the floor, brother or sister up. You are beautiful inside and outside.

GreatResearcher:
u wonder why theists are gullible? Becos they dont use their common senses

"For the children of this age are more shrewd than the children of light in dealing with their own people"
- Luke 16:8b

I have never met any, just as so ignorant as you GreatResearcher, that I couldn't learn something from. It's me by the way, that liked the original post and its especially the punchline, deng that was epic

Preetti:
A simple "no" would have actually sufficed. Next time don't ask someone what's wrong if you'd actually make them feel worse by giving no reply. Thank God for God, I solved it on that same day.

You would have to forgive me and somehow have it in your heart to understand that not just only once bitten, but since have become increasingly shy. I prayed over it and asked for a sign by Sunday, no sign, nothing. Tried finding out more on subject, nothing tangible and so was none the wiser. I still have been wrestling with it, felt like asking a thousand and one questions to understand how this truly can be, but couldn't, as I didn't want burrow on an already plunged in knife. I am more of a fishing rod person. I couldn't possibly have said No, because my mind hadnt been made up yet. Now I do recall saying will get back asap and never gave a deadline. Now why you wouldn't let me know immediately it was solved on that same day, is a puzzle. How anyone can stamp two likes on your post, without it making sense to them, is puzzle #2

annyplenty:
h t t p s://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc2LpgmqKbg&t=1s

No matter how deep you might have gone in alcohol, drug addiction, gangsterism and the likes,If Jesus can save this man, then He can save you. Just give Him a chance in your life and you will be the next 'Apostle Paul'
JESUS is coming. Stay ready in absolute repentance, righteousness and holiness.

annyplenty:
If a man that had gone so deep in Satanism and occultism can submit to Jesus, then don't delay your salvation. You can find grace if you submit to Jesus.
Kindly help us push this thread to the front page. Let the whole world see the marvelous and saving grace of our Lord, Jesus Christ.

annyplenty:
You have no excuse not give your life to Jesus, if such a man can give his life to Jesus.
Don't let him witness against you on the day of Judgement.

"... for God sees not as man sees, for man looks at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart"
- 1 Samuel 16:7b

but now, some over spiritual christians, some legalistic christians, some bible thumping christians, some judgemental christians, some fault-finding christians, some expressing strong disapproval christians, some overly critical christians etcetera will want to condemn and/or block a person like this from worshipping amongst them because of his/her appearance and/or saying has tattoos

achorladey:
The less, people like you TATIME and Maximus69 know of a subject matter, the more stubbornly you think you know it. You too have both squandered an unexpected learning opportunity. What a shame.

@ Muttleylaff this post of yours highlighted above is serious and somehow funny to me.

I really hope the DUO will follow through on the advice of yours. At least I did learn one or two things on one of your conversation on this platform based on a thread termed On what Basis is a woman made a Pastor, despite not being a contributor on that thread I really got an insight on the use of the word "SHEPHERD" as it relates to NOUN/VERB USAGE in the SCRIPTURES. I know you will remember that thread very well.

One funny aspect of that thread is in the course of that conversation you said earlier on that the person you are having that conversation with will eventually make use of the "BUT" and LEGALISM. It happened the way you predicted, the last statement of that person was indeed scattered with "BUT". LEGALISM holds way at the end of the discussion instead of deciphering the SPIRIT behind the law.

INDEED The less, people know of a subject matter, the more stubbornly THEY THINK THEY know it. You were accused by one as MR KNOW ALL why the same individual is EQUALLY directing you to the MR KNOW ALL of HIS denomination. If there is any reason to boast, we should all BOAST in the Lord who is the SPIRIT.

I hope to get to understand the statement of yours relating to we are BETTER of BEING BORN AGAIN than BEING CALLED a Christian. It's not something too difficult to comprehend coming from your explanation so far. The only aspect is the DIVINE PROVIDENCE attached to the name CHRISTIAN in some bible translations. I have equally checked some translation that do not include the DIVINE PROVIDENCE in theirs.

achorladey, unlike others and most, thank you for your kind words, your sympathetic awareness and your ability to understand things.

achorladey, please pardon my ignorance, but I am not familiar with any "DIVINE PROVIDENCE attached to the name CHRISTIAN in some bible translations", would you be kind to show what and where this is?

achorladey, to be honest with you, this table with lots of christian people standing on it, will have casualties, if shaken, left to me I rather do it on an ultrasonic level, afterall, local colloquial says, "Ti a ba bu ounjẹ, sinu epo ẹpa, ẹni ma jẹ yo, a yo" losely translated means "When food is served in groundnut pods, diners who will eat, enjoy the meal and get their fill and be full will be" but of course, yes, I earlier typed: "you are better off being born again than being christian." and ended the remark with: "If you know, you know. Who no know, no go know this", and it is true now achorladey

I don't know how one will knowingly call self a Christian, cos if you properly read the Bible, you won't yourself, outrightly call yourself a Christian. Neither of the disciples, none of the apostles called themselves Christians. As a matter of fact, it was the mischievous people of Antioch, known for giving all sort of people different kinds of nicknames, that first called the believers there, that Christian word. Now, look at it this way, even when you sugar coat it and/or try to remove the sting out of the word nigger, what does the word nigger, mean and what do you know that it means about you? Well think of the word Christian too in that light and circumstances too

²⁷Jesus and his disciples left Galilee and went up to the villages near Caesarea Philippi.
As they were walking along, He asked them, "Who do people say I am?"
²⁸"Well," they replied, "some say John the Baptist, some say Elijah, and others say you are one of the other prophets."
²⁹Then He asked them, "But who do you say I am?"
Peter replied, "You are the Messiah."
Mark 8:27-29

Notice Mark 8:29 from above, that it boils down to the person achorladey. No dictionary to go to before articulating who you are. Not someone else corralling another into labels for them to define who they are achorladey. It's an inward thing, more of internal personal thoughts without external influencing stimuli. It's like bam, who are you, bam give your answer, an explicit reply. You tell who you are and do not let others define to you, who you are.

The fact, that, you refer yourself as Christian, don't mean that's who you really are because the truth of the matter, is, that's not what God calls you, it's what the world calls you or says who you are.

Here are a few parallels, I know achorladey, you and others, can relate to:
Are you a nigger?
Do you refer or address yourself as a nigger?
Do you call yourself, answer back after or when being called a nigger?
What would you say if someone, right now, possibly non-black, called you a nigger?
Have you begun to catch the drift?

Need I go on? Need I say more? I can go on, but will let sleeping dogs lie, not further rock the boat or tipping it over

BlueAngel444:
you do not have the Holy Spirit.

alBHAGDADI:
proof it

BlueAngel444:
I don't need to.

alBHAGDADI:
... because you can't.
You can only make false claims.

BlueAngel444:
Just like the eyes can sense light because it was designed that way.
You lack and need the HolySpirit.

alBHAGDADI does have the Holy Spirit, the problem alBHAGDADI has always have BlueAngel444, is that it's over size for him.

BlueAngel444 have you ever tried moving and walking about in an oversized shirt, trousers, suit and shoes before? Yup, if you had, you're right, it turned out to be an ungraceful and/or graceless experience, with you making blundering movements upandan all over the place.

This is exactly the matter with the Holy Spirit BlueAngel444, because people are not buff out to fit and fill in, to the Holy Spirit, they end up being graceless and ungraceful, hence the false positive and/or appearance of having not the Holy Spirit, but it is there, only badly fitted because of being oversize

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TATIME:
Good day Maximus, i'm using this medium to say " You are welcome to the club of argumentators!"
After noticing the wisdom in your comments he called you "a god"!. Act 14:12
He even cited the event at Genesis where Satan promised Eve that they will become like God, yet he couldn't notice that he is now acting in place of Satan who wanted humans to become arrogant and see themselves as know~all! Genesis 3:5
Now that you're trying to direct him to where he also could receive what you have RECEIVED, he finds it hard to agree! 1Corinthians 4:7
Instead of listening to learn he now feels like spewing the gibberish his pastors taught him that has rendered him unwise rather than become like you!
Well you reminded me of the admonition from Jesus' brothers and i have decided to remain obedient to the Governing Body of God's chosen people!

alBHAGDADI:
Instead of this one to depend on the Holy Spirit whom Jesus said will teach us all things, he's depending on the Governing Body of Jehovah's False Witnesses who are mere men like him.

"But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name,
He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you."
- John 14:26

"... For his Spirit searches out everything and shows us God's deep secrets."
- 1 Corinthians 2:10b

Abeggy leave them two, TATIME and Maximus69 in their lanes. This is the type of things with people like them, we have to deal with nwanne.

TATIME:
Good day Maximus, i'm using this medium to say " You are welcome to the club of argumentators!"

TATIME, my customer mi daada ni odale, loosely translated means "my regular customer indeed thats backstabbing treacherous", I like how you showed yourself to be a yellow bellied, thank you very much

TATIME:
After noticing the wisdom in your comments he called you "a god"!. Act 14:12

"Jesus answered,
"It is written in your own Law that God said, 'You are gods.'"
- John 10:34

"You sire, are a god to make this beautiful and profound emboldened statements"
- by MuttleyLaff: 8:22am on 03 Apr

" Also if you know right from wrong, you then also are a god."
- by MuttleyLaff: 9:04am on 03 Apr

"Do you remember or recall the exact conversation that transpired between the serpent and Eve? Man, became gods, knowing good and bad, the moment after eating of the Tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil"
- by MuttleyLaff: 11:41am on 03 Apr

I didnt realise the so called "wisdom" was just a flash in the pan, that he actually is a a small firework that burns with a hissing sound before exploding and that my patting him on the back gesture, will make his head swell. My compliment seemed to have made him think he is more intelligent and more knowledgeable than he really is and portrays to be.

TATIME, maybe you dont know that with Act 14:12, calling Barnabas to be the Greek god Zeus, and Paul to be Hermes a Greek god associated with speed and good luck, who served as a messenger to Zeus and the other gods, is completely different to believers being called gods, same way and manner as the word of God, Jesus and the bible does, as you can see from John 10:34 above.

TATIME:
He even cited the event at Genesis where Satan promised Eve that they will become like God, yet he couldn't notice that he is now acting in place of Satan who wanted humans to become arrogant and see themselves as know~all! Genesis 3:5

Wake up to reality TATIME and stop jonzing, man became god, moment after eating fruit.
1/ TATIME, did man, know or not know good and evil after eating the fruit? Answer now
2/ TATIME, what to your humble understanding is knowing good and evil all about? Kindly, say it with one word please. Thank you

TATIME:
Now that you're trying to direct him to where he also could receive what you have RECEIVED, he finds it hard to agree! 1 Corinthians 4:7

Both you TATIME and your partner in crime Maximus69 are not able to understand things like this because you are out of your element. I already know you two, both are out of your element(s), so please accept my empathy because I realy do sympathetically understand your shortcoming and lack of depth

Do you always do strawminning like this, huh? Are you in a regular habit of proof texting? Like you just did with 1 Corinthians 4:7 above huh?
Read about your friend Maximus69 boasting below at 9:39am on 03 Apr about his teachers and his so called "wisdom"

TATIME:
Instead of listening to learn he now feels like spewing the gibberish his pastors taught him that has rendered him unwise rather than become like you!
Well you reminded me of the admonition from Jesus' brothers and i have decided to remain obedient to the Governing Body of God's chosen people!

"Why not meet my teachers first to know how this divine wisdom is been imparted into the hearts of men like me? undecided"
- by Maximus69 9:39am on 03 Apr

"You need only one Teacher that will guide you into all truths and tell you things nwanne."
- by MuttleyLaff: 11:41am on 03 Apr

The less, people like you TATIME and Maximus69 know of a subject matter, the more stubbornly you think you know it. You too have both squandered an unexpected learning opportunity. What a shame.

alBHAGDADI:
It is only a wise man that recognizes fools. Fools don't know they are fools, just as you don't know.

I said it is only a certified and bonafide fool that calls other people fools, I never made mention of recognitions.

Maximus69:
This is where we'll both say goodbye because you feel you already know the answers to those questions and i need not worry myself over it!
You can now quantify me and my teachers with anything that comes to your mind,but let me assure you that you and i aren't worshiping the same God!
Farewell!

Amen

alBHAGDADI:

The two fools up there are so confused that they are arguing with each other just seconds after agreeing with each other on their false idea of what born again means.


I think it's best someone should open a thread for the discussion on born again since Okcornel is too scared to his pants to answer the question here

Please mention me when you do.

It is only a certified and bonafide fool that calls other people fools

Maximus69:
Hmmm. There is a lot to learn Sir!
You must first know what being a Christian means?

I can be of service with this. Even when you sugar coat it and/or try to remove the sting out of the word, what does the word nigger, mean and means to you? Well think of the word Christian too in that light and circumstances.

Maximus69:
Why are so many different religious groups claiming Christians?

Delusion(s) is the reason

Maximus69:
What is the meaning of born again?
How can one become born again?

The meaning of born again means born from above. One is born again, if like Nicodemus, one recognises Jesus Christ for whom He is and if one acknowledges the power of God in addition to admitting the demonstration and/or display of the power of God

Maximus69:
What are the attributes of a born again Christian that makes him differ from other Christians?
And where are they going to spend eternity?

The fundamental attributes have already being mentioned above. Born again will spend eternity in the kingdom of heaven

Maximus69:
Then you will know what makes a Christian like me say things that makes you marvel!

I marvel you are a Christian, cos if you properly read the Bible, you won't yourself call yourself a Christian. Neither of the disciples nor the apostles called themselves Christians, it was the mischievous people of Antioch, known for giving people nicknames, that first called the believers that word

Maximus69:
As for god, that is another topic entirely.

Do you remember or recall the exact conversation that transpired between the serpent and Eve? Man, became gods, knowing good and bad, the moment after eating of the Tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil

Maximus69:
Why not meet my teachers first to know how this divine wisdom is been imparted into the hearts of men like me?

You need only one Teacher that will guide you into all truths and tell you things nwanne.

ThothHermes:
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You this man, nwanne, you don start again with these your hilarious meme, erh. You got me doubling up and cracking literally laughing out loud with laughter seeing that meme. Please stop it, lol

Maximus69:
NO! Sir i'm just a Christian, not even a born again!
If only you can also learn from my teachers, you will know that for a certainty God has chosen some people by means of his holy spirit to teach others. They are the REAL born again Christians teaching us what to do in this endtime.
God's judgment is fast approaching and whoever fails to recognise these people will be condemned, Jesus said he will classify many as GOATS all because of their failure to acknowledge these people, Jesus even called them 'his brothers'! Matthew 25:31-46
Majority of mankind have vilified them right from the time their presence was made manifest,people also continue to vilify us too for following them,but we have come to know that they are the REAL spiritual Jews foretold by Prophet Zechariah @ 8:23
God bless you Sir!

Sire do you believe in who Jesus Christ is? Do you admit the existence of the power of God and acknowledge the demonstration of the power of God? If your reply to both questions is yes, then Nwanne, you are according to scripture, born again then. Also if you know right from wrong, you then also are a god. Now, you are better off being born again than being christian. If you know, you know. Who no know, no go know this.

To be honest I dont know how it got belly up with Churchill and Tonto or how their much publicised lovey-dovey got ruined but I do know that hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. Tonto, if you read this, please softly softly ooo, do not avenge yourself by laying curses etcetera because vengence is for the Lord and He repays.

Maximus69:
NO Sir, i don't know him from Adam. All i noticed is the desperation in him to defend what God has REMOVED from the system to set equity amongst his worshipers globally!
The laws God gave Israelites could be justified because they were all slaves,so they're all EQUAL. No class amongst them, they're starting afresh, that is why they all answered Moses before God gave them the laws 'all that Jehovah requires we are ready to do' Exodus 19:8
But God understands man's condition than man himself. Psalms 103:14 Isaiah 48:17,18 Jeremiah 10:23
That is why he will not push the same kind of rules to people who already have class in their midst. A TRUE Christian can't have peace of mind while doing what is wrong so God asked them to keep just few necessary things! Act 15:28,29
When our first parents were perfect, they had just one single rule, when God introduced himself to the imperfect children of Jacob he gave them over six hundred rules,when Christianity was established[to bring us back to perfection] the rules dropped to just few, don't be surprised that God's own people will still graduate to the former perfect state when the rule will become just one again as it was in the beginning!
Satan deceived Adam and Eve that God is not giving them freedom but today under man's rule [manipulated by Satan] we now have thousands of laws. What people like alBHAGDADI failed to realise is that God's children have freedom that's why their own rules will ever continue to diminish! Mark 12:29-31

You sire, are a god to make this beautiful and profound emboldened statements. Too much I cant just be emboldening every line

Maximus69:
After fooling around in confusion to defend what they don't understand,the next place to hide their face in shame is born again.
They thought God's holy spirit is for any Dick and Harry with self esteem,instead of ascertaining those CHOSEN by God to enlighten them. Daniel 12:8-10
Well what is the reason for the question?
It's to silence whoever noticed the nonsense they're spewing. So 'if you're not born again,you can't understand it' but who told the confused guy that he is born again in the first place? Did he truly know the meaning of born again? What brought about the idea of born again? Can he distinguish between an ancient faithful servant of God, born again Christian, and a Christian? If a Christian is not born again,where will he spend eternity?
Well alBHAGDADI can see the word 'born again' in the Bible and he knows it's all about people like him

It's like you know this person very well and know the person more than OkCornel, I and others. Any trick in the book will do, just so to validate, spread and promote obligatory or imposed ecclesiastical monitised tithing.

JeromeBlack:

No reason and/or need to frown your face, didnt you find it a good YouTube clip to watch? The interviewer is an ignoranus but the pastor guy is a pitiful ignoranus times two