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ibinaboonline:
Seriously? Return doesn't mean entering. That's my whole point from the beginning. The demon may come around, patrol, whatever. But it cannot enter. That's what I've been saying from the very beginning and you've been arguing that they can enter.

ibinaboonline:
For example, you may return to your village. You may even say you are visiting your village. But if the village chief and his thugs block the entrance to your village and you are unable to enter, that's what I'm talkin about. You may throw stones from outside the village walls. You may even communicate with those inside from where you are, but you're still outside. That's my point.

ibinaboonline:
Do you know why Jesus made that illustration? He was telling us that casting out evil spirits is like fumigating a house. Then the house owner must take care to secure the house so that the pests won't return. In other words, the most important thing after salvation is the arrival of the Holy Spirit. The demon says, 'wow the place is clean and unoccupied". So it goes and gets more wicked spirits to live there. Jesus is saying, if the spirit returns and sees the place occupied by God's Spirit, the demon keeps away. Jesus was offering a solution and that solution is what I'm standing on; the presence of the Holy Spirit keeps demons away. You claimed you'll enter my burning house. That's fantastic. I'm glad you're braver than demons because demons are not suicidal. In fact, they know their time is short so they hope to make the most of what little time they have. I am baptized with the Holy Spirit and with fire. Because of this fire, demons CAN NOT enter my body. Impossible! A Christian can be attacked by demons from the outside, but never be possessed by them unless they were invited.

ujnwachukwu:
Be it who or how we love is still subject to Gods original design for it and God exemplifies His love and its Holy demands in the life and teachings of His Son- Jesus Christ the Anointed

LordReed:
You seem to be very knowledgeable about these things so how big a crowd does it take? In a church of over 3000 a person in wheelchair could not be healed, in a Shiloh event of millions of people all connected by satellite a person in a wheelchair could not be healed, please tell me what level of crowd you need.

Ranchhoddas:
They may not be able to make it happen. A crowd is a catalyst.

Ranchhoddas:
How do you know that a serpent is different from a snake?

Ranchhoddas:
Homosexuality, bestiality and every other depraved behavior people try to justify are in the same category. i.e. unnatural behavior. If you accept one you must accept all.

Ranchhoddas:
They are mostly trying to be politically correct.
I love how this meme always makes people laugh.

Ranchhoddas:
The missing serpent link.

LordReed:
When did killing require consent? Man please I beg don't descend into more ridiculousness please I beg you.
If someone rapes your 1 year old baby then tells you your baby gave her consent, come and ask me who came up with this consent rubbish.
I was a Christian for years I never saw a crippled healed in all that time and we had quite a number of them come in their wheelchairs regularly. Where did you see this person drop his crutches? What was his ailment? DO you know what happened to him after?

Ranchhoddas:
You are comparing an animal to a baby? Would it be okay if someone killed your one year old baby for food?

Plenty questions.
I have a theory that a larger crowd makes it easier for these things to happen. Oyaks pulls crowds. Attend his programs.

LordReed:
Dude are you jokingly asking this question or have you finally descended into full time ridiculousness?

No chance in hell. I barely manage to attend church for the wife then I will go and endure hours of punishment? Not on your life. BTW if they have the power why are the hospitals not empty? Why is modern medicine having more success rate?

Ranchhoddas:
I'm just wondering why it's okay to kill animals for food but wrong to have sexual relations with them. I have a feeling the animals would prefer the former if you gave them a choice.

The crowd is a contributing factor I hypothesize. There are not enough people in hospitals to draw on the power responsible for the healing. A faith healer can still do it alone if he has sufficient faith (healing vibrations). A crowd makes it easier.

Ranchhoddas:
I've heard this before, and it was from someone who followed the teachings of William M. Branham. I'm sure like him, you have no evidence.

LordReed:
LMFAO! O my fucking days! Just LoL!

Ranchhoddas:
La illaha illallah

Na William Branham church you dey go?

LordReed:
I still don't give a rats arse.

LMFAO! Tomorrow you will say you are not editorializing. Please show me where in the bible this "missing link" is mentioned?

SMDH Muttley you are a piece of work. LoL

LordReed:
I don't give a hoot how many times it happened. When adults believe without proof that animals can talk then I will milk it with both hands and feet.

LordReed:
BTW pls educate me on the difference between serpent and snake.

Ranchhoddas:
I was about to ask that. Muttleylaff wants to drop another bomb.

LordReed:
Based on how you believe a cockroach can give consent and they believe a snake can convince someone to eat fruit, I say you and they are no different.

Plus the times you defended pastors and conversion therapy, I am convinced you are an agnostic theist.

Ranchhoddas:
Which part of this criteria does a relationship with an adult consenting cockroach fail to fulfill?

Ranchhoddas:
How many cockroaches have you killed in your life. Is eating termites or frogs cannibalism?

Ranchhoddas:
It's your word against his. The cockroach is not complaining. No one is harmed. I'm sure you would have immediately killed that cockroach if you saw it on your bed.
So that cockroach is getting the best human treatment possible. I'm sure other cockroaches would be envious.
How come the guy has 99 problems and homosexuals get a pass.
Double standard.
About cannibalizing, Nigerians eat termites. I have seen a person catch it and throw it in his mouth. Do you know if was part of their love pact?

You don't speak cockroach. He does.

Ranchhoddas:
Third paragraph.
He was able to communicate with his lover. Because you don't speak cockroach doesn't mean others can't.
How do you know there was no consent?
No one is being hurt.

Ranchhoddas:
This is what people like Muttleylaff support in the name of liberalness.
NPcomplete
LordReed
At least this one is not hurting anybody na . Where do draw the line on unnatural behavior gentlemen? It's a slippery slope guys. No end in sight.

johnydon22:
Lmao. But ok.

johnydon22:
Lol. Ok

ibinaboonline:
I didn't avoid the question.

ibinaboonline:
I haven't come online since. To answer your question is rather easy. I'll answer with a question too?

ibinaboonline:
Will you enter my house for a visit if it was on fire? That's your answer.

ibinaboonline:
The presence of the Holy Spirit is such that can be likened to a house on fire. Demons in a demon possessed man saw Jesus coming and ran screaming in fright. I'm talking about the insane man who hung around graves. Let me make it crystal clear here: if you've ever imagined demons as the type that may visit and go ( that is, enter and leave again) you're gravely mistaken. A demon will NEVER leave voluntarily once they've managed to gain entrance. They'll never ever leave unless they're evicted. To enter is a very specific action and I say again, demons can not enter a house where the Holy Spirit lives.

ujnwachukwu:
Late Dr Myles Munroe in his work stated "When the purpose of a thing is not known, abuse inevitable"

ujnwachukwu:
You have a perspective to which you ask your questions, why not come plain and express what you are driving at. On an individual note. We see things different depending on what has shaped you so far in life.

ujnwachukwu:
Love

ujnwachukwu:
The purpose of man is to yield to His Maker for the establishment of Gods kingdom (IN) him and in the territory at which he is planted.

Dantedasz:
I would sincerely appreciate it if you stopped mentioning me please.

budaatum:
Me too, please.

LordReed:
Targeted at people who you want to manufacture a cure for which they have no disease?

ujnwachukwu:
Late Dr Myles Munroe in his work stated "When the purpose of a thing is not known, abuse inevitable"

LordReed:
Here's the difference between Jephthah and Hannah, Jephthah if we are to believe he sent his daughter to become a nun is sad while Hannah is happy, that should have been reversed. Hannah, mother of an only son should have been the one sad because she was losing a man child. A man child in those days was worth his weight in gold while a girl child, well we can see how the bible treats them. What is Jephthah's daughter's name? LoL. There is absolutely no way Jephthah is mourning the loss of his daughter to seminary when girl children are not even that well regarded.

LordReed:
Again another difference between Hannah and Jephthah that tells us their situations where not the same. Hannah's goes to Shiloh frequently to see her son while it is never mentioned that Jephthah saw her again or even thought much of her after because instead there is a ceremony by young women. No mention is made of Jephthah's involvement in this event in stark contrast to Hannah who takes a gift to her son every year

LordReed:
Another thing, about people dedicated to the god, they were never meant to be celibate. Samuel was definitely not celibate. There is no sign any of the tabernacle workers were meant to be celibate. Not the high priest, not the priests, not the Levites. So where did you get the idea that she was going into a convent that required her to be celibate? Even Deborah the prophetess was not celibate. Anna the woman in the New Testament also was not celibate. Please where did this idea come from?

LordReed:
Muttley you tried but no amount of editorializing can make this story palatable. Jephthah most definitely roasted his daughter as he vowed.

budaatum:
buda don't do play with muttley, you know that! Especially when muttley distorts what buda wrote by adding an extra 'l'! Don't you see how we've been accusing you of distortion since your first comment on this thread?

Learn first, then play!

ibinaboonline:
satan can patrol the earth all he wants but he'll not enter a body where the Holy Spirit dwells. I stand on that fact till kingdom come. If what you mean by visiting is that he passes by then you can not say he could pass into a temple of the Holy Spirit. Do you even realize the basis of what we're talking about here? Light and darkness have no fellowship. Okay, let me play to your fancy. Jesus rebuked His disciple saying 'get behind me satan'. Does this mean that the disciple was possessed by a devil? The answer is no. But the disciple can be influenced by the 'wind blowing in the world'. This wind however does not pass into the christians system. To enter is a very specific term and I say again, satan will not enter a house where the Holy Spirit is already living. he can patrol around all he wants but never actually go in. Not even for a visit

budaatum:
wily
/ˈwʌɪli/ adjective
skilled at gaining an advantage, especially deceitfully.
"his wily opponents"

MuttleyLaff:
You do know who the only begotten son is, dont you budaatum?
You do know what the phrase "only begotten son" means, dont you budaatum?
Serpents having a willy, is that what you typed budaatum?
Well possibly, and cant rule that out. Oops what did I just type there, please do ignore. It wasnt me.
Yeah, serpents taking advantage(s), tell me about it and them

Anas09:
My brother make we lif dis mata. notin go change.
Jesus is my High Priest, i shall pay my tithe to Him and i do this in freedom, not compulsion.

frank317:
The fact is that nothing in the passages indicated that she went to a convent. Reading his comments u can see how Christians translate the bible just to make it look like a nicely written story.

All we know is that the dude made promise to God that anything that comes out of the his will be used Gods suya, the dude saw his daugther come out and both him and his daughter were said that she will be sacrificed... My muttely is trying to argue that she went to a convent, how he got that is still the eight wonder of the world. To even think he believes he is making sense is still amazing.

ujnwachukwu:
The discussions there will take decades to read lol, so much, but i will try and look up what the abundance of men's heart through their write ups.

Goshen360:
But why is it soooo super hard for followers of Adeboye and Oyedepo to see clearly that their papas are in deep errors? I actually added the fourth clip of Oyedepo from your response to Annas on the other thread. Good job my brother!