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 Christianity Etc › Re: God And Shoes.... by MuttleyLaff: 8:03pm On Feb 13, 2019 |
LordReed:Your body is an earth suit, when you snuff it, the spirit returns back to its Owner but your soul goes to rest and a waiting place pending the day of judgment when you will give account for every careless word spoken, you'll have to explain the reason(s) for your every word, thought and deed. For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned, on that day. 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: God And Shoes.... by MuttleyLaff: 7:32pm On Feb 13, 2019 |
LordReed:You have to be specific dear friend, the evidence or demonstration of what spirit you are particularly interested in. After all, human beings, are spirit wearing an earth suit |
| Christianity Etc › Re: God And Shoes.... by MuttleyLaff: 4:50pm On Feb 13, 2019 |
CAPSLOCKED:"23But the time is coming—indeed it’s here now—when true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth. The Father is looking for those who will worship him that way. 24For God is Spirit, so those who worship him must worship in spirit and in truth.” - John 4:23-24 3 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Babalawo (witch Doctor) Christianity by MuttleyLaff: 4:41pm On Feb 13, 2019 |
Benjamin08:He is an arch angel here on the Religion forum |
| Christianity Etc › Re: It Is Not The Law Of Moses But God Himself That Tells Us To Give First Fruit by MuttleyLaff: 7:03pm On Feb 12, 2019*. Modified: 11:16pm On Feb 12, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI:Do you read the Bible carefully and properly to understand at all? Did you at all, take in what I wrote up there, that Abraham gave the tithes to Melchizedek because he was the closest to what and who Abraham believes in? alBHAGDADI did you not read in Genesis 14:22, where Abraham surpassed how Melchizedek addressed God, when he mentioned God by the name Yahweh that Melchizedek never used Sebi, you said Melchizedek was a high priest alBHAGDADI? Where is your evidence that Melchizedek is/was a high priest alBHAGDADI please? alBHAGDADI:SMH, you are a confirmed born liar for shamelessly spewing this sort of blatant and unfounded tissue of lies. alBHAGDADI:Your pasan cat o' nine tails whip is here that I will lash on you, each and every time you get out of line, going about upandan the place, lying and deceiving others. You can run but you cant hide scaredy cat. Nairaland Religion forum, is too small a place for you to hide in 4 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: It Is Not The Law Of Moses But God Himself That Tells Us To Give First Fruit by MuttleyLaff: 6:40pm On Feb 12, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI:You always know you will get educated whenever you stretch your head above the parapet. If you are really that knowledgeable about tithe, it's mention and introduction to the Bible, you would have learned that Abraham after slaughtering the King's, as per the prevailing custom after winning a battle, had to give tithes of spoil of the war or battle to a priest cum king of the land. Abraham being a relatively new convert to his new faith, found Melchizedek to be the closest to a priest and king worthy to him who he can give the tithe of the spoul of war to. After all, Melchizedek is a priest of El Elyon, as in, God the Most High. Melchizedek never mentioned Yahweh as being his God but Abraham qualified and made it known that, as for him, he worships El Elyon who is Yahweh. Stop lying, no one said Melchizedek was confused. You are up to your silly games again. It is very clear in the Bible, that Melchizedek never acknowledged and know God to be Yahweh, it was Abraham who made it a point of duty to publicly announce and make it known. 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: It Is Not The Law Of Moses But God Himself That Tells Us To Give First Fruit by MuttleyLaff: 5:47pm On Feb 12, 2019 |
OkCornel: alBHAGDADI:Melchizedek didnt know and never acknowledged he is a priest of YHWH All Melchizedek knew was that he is a priest of El Elyon (i.e. a priest of God, the Most High) The one and truly El Elyon, whose personal name is Yahweh, Melchizedek doesn't know and he so unable to recognise El Elyon's name (i.e. Yahweh) as being good or important enough to mention Evidentally Melchizedek had no relationship whatsoever with Yahweh. Melchizedek Evidentally and in the real sense, had no relationship whatsoever perse with Yahweh alBHAGDADI:He had but what no had any record of his birth and death alBHAGDADI:You have just read how Abraham's El Elyon is quite distinct from Melchizedek's El Elyon and this is confirmed when Abraham publicly acknowledged Yahweh by stating clearly and without doubt letting it be known that he, Abraham had sworn to Yahweh, God Most High, possessor of heaven and earth. Besides, pagan gods bear same titles by which the true God is known by too, dont they? alBHAGDADI:He was never appointed high priest of God,. Where did you get this false or inaccurate information from, deliberately told and intending to deceive with huh?. Melchizedek was priest of God Most High, not and never was a high priest alBHAGDADI:Already above responded to this alBHAGDADI:Six foot or so under alBHAGDADI:[img]https://s1/images/MuttWipesHandSmile.gif[/img] Easy peasy lemon squeezy QED Mr Prooftexting Come back for more, if you havent had enough 3 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Heart-to-heart: Am I Born LESBIAN, GAY, BISEXUAL, TRANSGENDER (LGBT)? by MuttleyLaff: 11:26am On Feb 12, 2019*. Modified: 2:40pm On Feb 12, 2019 |
Jsmile: Jsmile:Why do you want this thread shoved out of sight and buried away in a faraway sexuality forum?. No matter the guise under you use to comment with, no matter how much incognito you post, your sin(s) finds you out You've bitten more than you can chew, you are getting stomach aches from what you nibbled at, the heat has got to you in the kitchen, you are uncomfortably getting hot with dripping sweats hence your calling out to the mods. What began in Genesis 3? Humour me, please share if you really know what you are saying and talking about If you arent lying show where God said He is displeased with two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour. You know luvmijeje, has suss you out and may God have mercy on you if you are living a lie of not being true to your nature. You are naive, a learner and wet behind the ear, if not, you would have known or learned that you are more than this earth suit you have on. You would have known that, there is neither male nor female in the kingdom. Whether a man or a woman, we are all the same in Christ Jesus. You would have recognised that procreation was a means to an end. It isn't the end, it simply is solving a vacuum situational problem that arose. 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Who Said Angels Don't Have Sexual Feelings? by MuttleyLaff: 8:38am On Feb 12, 2019*. Modified: 9:28pm On Feb 12, 2019 |
Ihedinobi3:Good. Ihedinobi3:Please, without erroneouly giving me Genesis 6:2, 6:4, Job 1:6, 2:1, 38:7 and Luke 20:36, state your reason(s) for saying that the sons of God in Genesis 6 are angels Ihedinobi3:I was just being civil and unnecesarily generous because actually there is nowhere angels are in a clear and detailed manner, leaving no room for confusion or doubt called sons of God. If you know of any verse that in a clear and detailed manner, leaving no room for confusion or doubt, calls angels sons of God, please as soon as possible, share this with me Without erroneouly giving me Genesis 6:2, 6:4, Job 1:6, 2:1, 38:7 and Luke 20:36, please show me where in the bible, angels are called the "sons of God"? None. Nowhere. Ihedinobi3:It is uplifting and heart-warming to see that you underlined men and daughters to show the contrast in the storyline's change in tone and it switching to using sons of God and daughters of men instead of the previous ordinary men and daughters Ihedinobi3:Read further on, to see where I've dealt with this remark Ihedinobi3:It doesnt surprises the reader and confuses the reader, if the reader is conversant with the theme of the story and reading with the eyes peeled If I havent already asked you, please can I ask you then, what is the theme of Genesis chapter 6 Ihedinobi3? Ihedinobi3:Please ignore wherever I've typed "daughters of man" instead of typing "daughters of men" I actually meant in the first place intended typing "daughters of men" Ihedinobi3:A smart man only believes half of what he reads, a wise man know which half to believe, so I am pleased that you are up for discussing this Now, when you say: "The passage does not offer any real reason to infer such distinctions here.", can I ask you, what is the theme of Genesis chapter 6 Ihedinobi3? If you answer that question correctly enough, it becomes easier to see the build up, the switching terms making distinctions between men generally and a certain set or different types of men, referred to as "the sons of God". See the switching terms making distinctions between the general women and a different or certain set of the womenfolk, referred to as "daughters of men" It will be inconsistent of the bible not to stick with it's original style but it changed the style because it is making distinctions has the theme of the narrative unfolds Ihedinobi3:Dont be so quick to be thankful, remember, I asked you above, that without erroneouly giving me Genesis 6:2, 6:4, Job 1:6, 2:1, 38:7 and Luke 20:36, please show me where in the bible, angels, in a clear and detailed manner, leaving no room for confusion or doubt, are called the "sons of God" Have you been able to oblige me? Ihedinobi3:"But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:" - John 1:12 I gave you John 1:12, as a bible guide about what sons of God is before mentioning dependence, now tell me if dependence is uncredited in being called a son of God I already said, I was just being civil and unnecesarily generous when playing along and permitting you ascribing "sons of God" to angels. I am sorry, but that it the only means, I could think of to try to understand you, to know where and what position you are coming from My question if yet not answered, still stands Ihedinobi3. So again and without erroneouly giving me Genesis 6:2, 6:4, Job 1:6, 2:1, 38:7 and Luke 20:36, please show me where in the bible, angels, in a clear and detailed manner, leaving no room for confusion or doubt, are called the "sons of God"? Ihedinobi3:You are absolutely right, it has no place in the passage. In fact, the "daughters of God" phrase is not warranted in the narrative because it is not party to the theme of discussion in Genesis Chapter 6 Ihedinobi3. The existing and unfolding problem, got exacerbated when the "sons of God" went into "daughters of men" The bible is always careful and deliberate with its choice of words and wordings, hence the conscious switch of tone from using the word "daughters" to moving on to the more distinctive "daughters of men" The "daughters of men" are complicit, even if by accident or as willing partners, they are and so the reason why the "daughters of men" are mentioned and the "daughters of God" are not Ihedinobi3:The most perplexing and head scratching situations usually have simple retelling answers. If you can't explain it simply, it means you don't understand it well enough then. Ihedinobi3:You say you see nothing in there about marrying a daughter of God as opposed to marrying a daughter of men, but then go on to say, but you do see that it was his "generations", that is, his biological pedigree that appears to matter here. I hope you see how you've contradicted yourself there. Anway, we know why in Genesis 6, God was planning to wipe the whole earth of human beings, however, God finds something in Noah, that is exemplanary. It said, Noah is "perfect in his generations", and that is exactly how you too put it, when you said "he was not a Nephilim at all. Nor was his wife, nor were their children" and that him his wife and children were the only full human beings left about on earth Ihedinobi3:The evidence is there, black and white in the bible, look at Genesis 6:4a, saying "The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward,". They already existed but incresingly became more with the interest of the "sons of God" bar Noah, going into "daughters of men" Ihedinobi3:"We even saw the Nephilim there—the descendants of Anak that come from the Nephilim! We seemed like grasshoppers in our own sight, and we must have seemed the same to them!" - Numbers 13:33 Goliath, the giant killed by David, wasnt the only descendant of the Nephilim. Giants, when man fell, originally came about from the Nephilim. Giants population increased and got aggravated to becoming a menace to society when the sons of God suddenly found the daughters of men's beauty powerfully and mysteriously attractive to. Ihedinobi3:This entire remark is laughable and if I should comment on it, kkins25 and others will say I am doing a metatron again. Ihedinobi3:Ihedinobi3, did you just type that the Nephilim were not giants? kkins25, come see, see me, see confusion and wahala ooo Ihedinobi3, the word Nephilim in Hebrew means giants. If you want me to elaborate, and go into the etymology details and literal meaning of Nephilim, I will, but only if you ask me to, so suffice to say, the Nephilim were giants, human beings initially with incredible stature and strength before brains met brawn. The beauty of the "daughters of men" was the catalyst. Ihedinobi3:"18After this, there was another battle against the Philistines at Gob. As they fought, Sibbecai from Hushah killed Saph, another descendant of the giants. 19During another battle at Gob, Elhanan son of Jairf from Bethlehem killed the brother of Goliath of Gath. The handle of his spear was as thick as a weaver’s beam! 20In another battle with the Philistines at Gath, they encountered a huge man with six fingers on each hand and six toes on each foot, twenty-four in all, who was also a descendant of the giants. 21But when he defied and taunted Israel, he was killed by Jonathan, the son of David’s brother Shimea 22These four Philistines were descendants of the giants of Gath, but David and his warriors killed them" - 2 Samuel 21:18-22 Ihedinobi3, I repeat, brawn and brains. Nephilim represents brawn, sons of God represent brains. The Nephilim were able to be "men of renown" or "great men" and did things that made them greatly admired among men, not just only because of their stature and physical strength but importantly because they became endowed with intelligence from the association of the "sons of God" going into the "daughters of men" Beauty, Brawn and Brains. Bullies will always be a bully, no matter how much brains they have, that is why the giants in the bible were well known for some bad quality or deed. Case in point Goliath etcetera. Ihedinobi3:I am sure of the bible verse you are referring the Antichrist to being prophesied to be Nephilim but would like you to post here your reference that the Antichrist himself is prophesied to be Nephilim please. Being a bully that Nephilims are, is it surprising, that the physical strength and intelligience qualities be found in the Antichrist? Ihedinobi3:See my comment below Ihedinobi3:To an ill-informed and unprejudiced mind, the words, as they stand in Genesis 6:4, states, as clear as day, that the Nephilim, who were on the earth in those days, as existing, before the sons of God began to go into the daughters of men. It didnt even say marry or know them, as Adam and others knew their wives, but says: "the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men" Bluntly put, the "sons of God" fairked the "daughters of men" literally. I will reply to your other post and kkins25 asap 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Heart-to-heart: Am I Born LESBIAN, GAY, BISEXUAL, TRANSGENDER (LGBT)? by MuttleyLaff: 7:54am On Feb 12, 2019*. Modified: 8:11am On Feb 12, 2019 |
luvmijeje:Have a blast luvmijeje:Peter, Barnabas and Paul actually said: "We too are only men, human like you," that they are human beings just like you and I! Peter, Barnabas and Paul never had a chip on their shoulders nor thought too much of themselves than necessary. Never boasted about material wealth, never preached or taught imposed and/or obligatory ecclesiastical monitised tithe giving, never promoted and/or indulge in activities for pecuniary gain. luvmijeje:Which posters, who have you seen, who do you know, in and/or on here Nairaland, putting man, dead or alive, on a pedestal, hmm? luvmijeje, respect is one of the greatest expresison of love and so, as for me, everyone, as an individual, whether Peter, Barnabas and Paul or Kamoru Obi Shehu, should be respected and definitely not idolised or put on a pedestal. I respect people for what and who they are, not for what I want them to be, same respect I give to that sharp blade on my knife sitting on my kitchen top, for what it is. It is a sharp knife. luvmijeje:luvmijeje, I dont know any perfect person. I, myself luvmijeje, I am made entirely of flaws. I am flawed and still worthy. Do you know that a diamond with a flaw is worth more than a pebble without imperfections? Listen, I can assure you, and in fact, also can prove to you, that whatever your flaws are, if not engaged in hurting or used to harm another, is no where and not, criminalised in the Bible, not by Jesus and/or even not by Paul too. If you're to look at lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender, as a flaw or weakness, then convert it, into a virtue or strength, by faithfully and devotedly have a lifetime lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender love with one person. After all, the ujnwachukwu of this world, ought to know that every human being is entitled to love another human being, be it a woman or a man, without prejudice, discrimination, feeling fear of life, restraint, social conditioning or obligation to conform. To ujnwachukwu and the likes, respect other people's LGBT sexual orientation, even if you dont understand or it doesnt mean anything to you, it means a lot to them. Life Gets Better Together (LGBT), the moment we realise and recognise that every human being, regardless of sexual orientation leanings, deserves a safe and supportive environment to live in. So to my dear fellow LGBTs, I say, accept your flaw, but at the same time, know your potential, to love. The love being in a two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other, lasting that's a lifetime life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour. luvmijeje:God has not given us a spirit of fear, cowardice and timidity, but of power, love, self-discipline, self-control, sound mind, sound judgement and wise discretion. 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Heart-to-heart: Am I Born LESBIAN, GAY, BISEXUAL, TRANSGENDER (LGBT)? by MuttleyLaff: 8:15am On Feb 11, 2019*. Modified: 1:24pm On Feb 11, 2019 |
ujnwachukwu:You have nothing to fear and worry about concerning your marriage, if you are sincere, genuine, true to yourself and if your conscience is clear, so please dont start pulling out and playing the "abusive with words or negative words" card here ujnwachukwu:Oftentimes people don't want to hear the truth because they don't want their illusions destroyed Instead of replying to the various questions head on, he instead, prefers avoiding them and chase shadows "Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those in Christ Jesus," - Romans 8:1 "Who is the one condemning? For it is Christ Jesus, the one having died, now rather having been raised up, who is also at the right hand of God, and who is interceding for us." - Romans 8:34 Why ujnwachukwu, are you condemning their act? Cant you preach long life love and/or teach chastity, fidelity etcetera between two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour huh? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Heart-to-heart: Am I Born LESBIAN, GAY, BISEXUAL, TRANSGENDER (LGBT)? by MuttleyLaff: 7:27am On Feb 11, 2019*. Modified: 1:13am On Jul 21, 2019 |
ujnwachukwu: luvmijeje:Not according to the Bible written by men but according to the various translations written by men. If we know that, all scripture is inspired by God, and that, translation of the bible into other languages from the original text is not inspired by God, then it therefore is fair comment to say that, all translations available today or before, whether OT or NT are not inspired and therefore as have always being pointed out, now and then, here and there, arent and/or cant have the claim of being inerrant luvmijeje:If I were wiser than my neighbour, I wont be that self conceited and arrogantly enough to outrightly say that to his or her face luvmijeje: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRN-hqzFJHY Chief Dr. Oliver Sunday Akanite, popularly referred to as Oliver De Coque of blessed memory RIP. The lyrics of the tune are very truly instructive ujnwachukwu and luvmijeje, do you know that God never ceases to marvel me. When I look at my fingers, I see my fingers are all alike but not equal. They are different in length, size, shape and orientation. Each of my fingers are unique. It is extremely surprising and/or impressive that God with this simple and basic anatomy study tells us something about man and differences luvmijeje:luvmijeje, he is self deluded. ujnwachukwu has been indoctrinated into believing the church lies, to be truth. The church's falsehoods has deceived him into thinking that there is something wrong, evil and/or harmful in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour. ujnwachukwu ever after being "converted" and "conditioned" has turned to a sham, fake love and so adopted living a suppressed lie, though knowing fully well and deep down in him, that he finds same sex, as him, sexually attractive. luvmijeje:ujnwachukwu, being gay is like being left handed. Just as some people are left handed, so, most people aren't. Nobody really knows why, except for, it's because we live in an imperfect world. It is not a matter of right or wrong here. It is a matter of thats just the way things are, and that, there is nothing abnormal in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour ujnwachukwu, having homosexual behaviour, as in the preceded, stated clearly and in detail, context, respect and/or circumstances, is no more abnormal than being lefthanded is, so accept your flaw, especially when it is not evil. Accept your difference, when it is not doing anybody harm and/or you arent harming others with it ujnwachukwu, UyiIredia, bloodofthelamb, luvmijeje and others, is it possible, that love can be extraordinary, that there is love wonderful and passing the love of women? Of course, yes, for some, it is and it is biblical [img]https://s3/images/MuttleyHappyB.gif[/img] Happy Birthday luvmijeje! 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by MuttleyLaff: 10:51pm On Feb 10, 2019 |
kkins25:Are you at all, aware of what the sins of Sodom and Gomorrah were, when from the onset, judgement of destruction, was pronounced on it and its inhabitants? kkins25:Are you aware that the threat and/or judgement on the inhabitants of Canaan was prophesised 400 years plus before the actual annihilation kkins25:Levicticus, means the book of the Levites, or better still, the law book of the Levites. It is a book with instructions that focuses attention on ritual, legal, moral practices and varying penalties for violating them. Sentencing to death by stoning is one of the capital punishment. kkins25:You seem to attribute God administering judgement to mean violence and/or to be violence. God nevers misconduct and so no abuse of power when God administers judgement 1 Like |
| Politics › Re: I Am Voting Atiku And This Is Why - Bayo Adeyinka by MuttleyLaff: 9:18pm On Feb 10, 2019*. Modified: 10:08pm On Feb 10, 2019 |
Ranchhoddas:Baba Ijebu! Ranchhoddas:In 6 months time, we can and should see offshoot signs of emerging meaningful dividends of democracy, if its someone serious and capable who is given the mandate |
| Politics › Re: I Am Voting Atiku And This Is Why - Bayo Adeyinka by MuttleyLaff: 8:44pm On Feb 10, 2019 |
Ranchhoddas:About how far with the state of affairs in the country, 6 months after swearing in Are you watching The People's Presidential Debate Live On TVC? I pasted the link up above for you |
| Politics › Re: I Am Voting Atiku And This Is Why - Bayo Adeyinka by MuttleyLaff: 8:39pm On Feb 10, 2019 |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Do People Who Speak In Tongues Fake It Or Understand It? by MuttleyLaff: 8:27pm On Feb 10, 2019 |
Rednaxelot: 1Sharon: akinszz: 1Sharon: akinszz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WaJ7F6TF7o |
| Politics › Re: I Am Voting Atiku And This Is Why - Bayo Adeyinka by MuttleyLaff: 8:25pm On Feb 10, 2019 |
Ranchhoddas:and I will remind you 6 months after swear in, asking about how far now |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Heart-to-heart: Am I Born LESBIAN, GAY, BISEXUAL, TRANSGENDER (LGBT)? by MuttleyLaff: 7:55pm On Feb 10, 2019*. Modified: 8:17pm On Feb 10, 2019 |
UyiIredia:For reasons best known to you, UyiIredia, I know, you turn your nose up at gay relationships but let's at this juncture, talk about gay relationships that are two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour, shall we? UyiIredia:Because those are relationships full of bad energy and breeds negative, wicked and unwelcome events UyiIredia:"Whether you're homosexual or heterosexual, if you're promiscuous, you'll get the clap at least, if not AIDS Commit indecent acts and be prepared to receive the due penalty of the error and foolish deed." - Re: What Does The Bible Say About Homosexuality? by MuttleyLaff: 3:04pm On Sep 04, 2018 Your nose has stretched through the window to me from where you are. Are you by any chance related to Pinocchio? Who is the real self deluded please stand up, here now? 1 Like |
| Politics › Re: I Am Voting Atiku And This Is Why - Bayo Adeyinka by MuttleyLaff: 6:16pm On Feb 10, 2019 |
Ranchhoddas:https://www.nairaland.com/vertipics/knvnm1ouh54tlb42a87ix73pistsgpf9.jpg https://www.nairaland.com/vertipics/oe10zi50uokas4orn7xq9wu4v0u2u8ud.jpg I will rather waste my vote, than to, in a deliberate and/or intentional way vote for Atiku or PMB. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Heart-to-heart: Am I Born LESBIAN, GAY, BISEXUAL, TRANSGENDER (LGBT)? by MuttleyLaff: 5:59pm On Feb 10, 2019*. Modified: 6:48pm On Feb 10, 2019 |
ujnwachukwu:Homosexuality, exists between animals, as a matter of fact, it has been observed in 1,500 animal species, however, homophobia is found in only one. This observation gives concerns, dont you think? ujnwachukwu:You still are unable to answer questions put to you. So, God in his infinite wisdom, creates animal species that engage in homosexual behavior but as for you, it is filthy to love, isnt it ujnwachukwu? 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Who Said Angels Don't Have Sexual Feelings? by MuttleyLaff: 4:30am On Feb 10, 2019*. Modified: 9:14am On Feb 10, 2019 |
Ihedinobi3:First thing on the list, that needs to be unlearned is thinking that the sons of God is an exclusive title reserved only for angels and further that the same sons of God in Genesis 6:2 that went into the daughters of man are not angels but are righteous men of God, in the same and similar league, just as will, Job and his sons were. Related bible verses about Job and Job's sons being called "son" and "sons of God" will be provided on request Ihedinobi3:Oh, to the untrained and unsuspecting eye, that is what would appear to be the case Most importantly, I dont know why and how you cant see the disparity in the phrase "sons of God" and "daughters of man" In Genesis 6:1, you see it stated that "daughters" were born to human beings when same human beings began to multiply. Fast forward a bit, there suddenly is a departure from using the former "daughters" phrase, switching to using a different "daughters of man" phrase that enhanced the previously used "daughters" phrase. Now, if there were "sons of God", there equally will be "daughters of God", just as, if there were "daughters of man", there equally also will be "sons of man". Obviously, the bible is clearly separating "daughters of man" from daughters" and making different "daughters of man" from daughters" Afterall, the bible, in John 1:12, says: "But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, (i.e. she, daughters of God, as well) even to them that believe on his name" Aside John 1:12 above, now the question is, what is it about being "the sons/daughters of God"? The major & key thing in the "the sons/daughters of God" expresssion, really, is about dependence Dependence upon what? Dependence upon who? you'll ask Well, whoever or whatever your dependence is upon, gives away, whether you're part of, or not part of "the sons/daughters of God" As, any, whether angels or human beings, living in full dependence on God, are called "the sons/daughters of God" Any, whether angel or human being, fully relying upon God, of own free will and so in glad submission, is called a "son/daughter of God" Now, looking at Genesis 6:2, the bible made a statement of fact and reference to when sons of God saw the daughters of man that they were fair and they took them wives of all which they chose Genesis 6:2, retold, in a simplified way, says, some sons of God, saw the daughters of God that they might be fair like the daughters of man are; but these sons of God, didnt take to, these daughters of God, as wives material, to chose from, rather these other sons of God, preferred the daughters of man, as wife material When one, fast forwards to Genesis 6:8-9, moving on, away from Genesis 6:2, then a proper understanding of the situation in Genesis 6:2, unravels. Noah, as a son of God, had grace and with this grace/favour, he had the sense, to avoid "daughters of man" & stick to a "daughter of God" is what Genesis 6:8 is saying. Genesis 6:9 corroboates Genesis 6:8, saying, Noah did the right thing (i.e. he was righteous) and that among the people of his time, he had sound, unblemished & without defect judgement (i.e. he was blameless). Also, that he didnt depart from walking habitually with God Noah, was the only one, found in his generation, who was not keeping company with, not socialising with, getting into the pants of "daughters of man" As a son of God, he was the only one found not mixing with "unbelievers" You do notice in the bible passage, that nephilims were already in the land, before the sons of God stating going into the daughters of man, hence increasing the numbers of Nephilim, dont you? You also do realise Ihedinobi3, that even after the flood, the Nephilim gene did survive, dont you? Ihedinobi3:1When man began to multiply on the face of the land and daughters were born to them, 2the sons of God saw that the daughters of man were attractive. And they took as their wives any they chose. 3Then the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not abide ina man forever, for he is flesh: his days shall be 120 years.” 4The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown. - Genesis 6:1-4 Please carefully watch Genesis 6:4 closely to notice that the Nephilim, who happened to be giants, were already on earth before the sons of God started mingling with the daughters of man. The Nephilim, were on earth before and continued to be after, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man Ihedinobi3:I am sorry Ihedinobi3, there is too much knowledge gap to patch or fill in here for you, so I am going to attempt to gauge the extent of what you know by asking a few questions, like: 1/ What do you know about the source(s) of Paul, Peter and Jude letters that got them concerned to write about myths and heresies? 2/ Do you know that Jude references and quotes from Peter when he writes? 3/ Do you know that Peter and Jude make references to or should I say quoted from non apocrypha and/or pseudepigrapha books, that rightfully are rejected to be in the bible? 4/ Do you know that what Peter and Jude quoted in that book is exactly what is being discussed and argued on this thread? 5/ How many apocrypha, non apocrypha and/or pseudepigrapha books have you so far read, that you are cocksure Paul wasnt referring to the Genesis 6 story and the heresies surrounding it? 6/ Can you give me a list and names of such books in #5 above that you've so far read, would you? Ihedinobi3:With this forthcoming comment, you have confirmed you have misunderstood what is going on with Genesis 6:1-2 and the heresy about it, that Peter had to comment on. Also Jude is parroting Peter and continuing on from it. Did you notice what Jude said at Jude 1:8? After Jude 1:6-7? Do you see his writing similarities with Peter? Or you never took any notice of his similarities with Peter? Ihedinobi3:Brawn and brains. Nephilim represents brawn, sons of God represent brains. The Nephilim's physical strength in contrast to intelligence was important to mention and as them being well known for some bad quality or deed. Case in point Goliath etcetera. Ihedinobi3:I haven't yet read anywhere in the bible of a celestial popping out and physically appearing looking like a human being on its own accord and without been sent on an errand by God or not in an official capacity. Celestial beings are law abiding, bad celestial know their limits Ihedinobi3:"But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels," - Hebrews 12:22 "And I looked, and I heard the voice of many angels around the throne, and of the living creatures, and of the elders; and their number was myriads of myriads and thousands of thousands," - Revelation 5:11 I'll let you have it though the bible says, angels are myriads, countless or innumerable just as seen above Ihedinobi3:The fact that you spoke off, that angels cannot produce new generations of angels and that the creation of Nephilim which while clearly different from normal human beings in important respects are truly physical half-humans at least is the truth. Or are you now going to withdraw, retract and distance yourself from the statement because I interjected a remark that it is the truth? Ihedinobi3:Read both Peter and Jude, you will see, they both were talking about those slandering celestial beings. Peter, even using a hypothetical "if" in his letter, should have made you realise this Ihedinobi3:Why you are hellbent on believing what the bible never said or never intended to say, is anyone's guess. I have said just about enough for you to give yourself permission to have a reset and rethink. Again, I offer, ask me any questions or clarification on any part of this subject matter, and God help me, as I truthfully respond Ihedinobi3:I wish I was as sanguine as you are because you make it sound, like it is that easy to put right 16 years of PDP misrule within less than 4 years of APC governance. You seem to have forgotten, I said: "there are a lot of rot, that as we go along, needs being cleaned out." 1 Like |
| Politics › Re: I Am Voting Atiku And This Is Why - Bayo Adeyinka by MuttleyLaff: 12:47am On Feb 10, 2019 |
Ranchhoddas:https://www.instagram.com/p/Btp0cHXA314/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link Area boys confront Presidential candidate, Omoyele Sowore demanding for money. Watch that Instagram link, I weep for naija. SMH Ẹ nu ẹ, lawa. |
| Politics › Re: I Am Voting Atiku And This Is Why - Bayo Adeyinka by MuttleyLaff: 11:47pm On Feb 09, 2019 |
Ranchhoddas:https://www.nairaland.com/4931212/sin-heart-gospel-deji-yesufu#74327193 |
| Politics › Re: I Am Voting Atiku And This Is Why - Bayo Adeyinka by MuttleyLaff: 11:35pm On Feb 09, 2019 |
Ranchhoddas:If you, and the fairked up elites did your part in sensitising the electorates adequately in your own networks and sphere of influences, a vote for Sowore would count and not be as good as voting for PMB Typical, Ranchhoddas lot, still in love with their "oppressors" and so the rest of Nigerians are sold down the river |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Who Said Angels Don't Have Sexual Feelings? by MuttleyLaff: 11:10pm On Feb 09, 2019 |
Maamin:The witch of Endor did not see a physical demon and yeah, it merely explains that when you look at the dark, you ought be careful because the dark looks back. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Who Said Angels Don't Have Sexual Feelings? by MuttleyLaff: 11:04pm On Feb 09, 2019*. Modified: 4:30am On Feb 10, 2019 |
Ihedinobi3:I am sorry and apologise to you if you usually find my comments and action of asking someone to be full on for your liking or take I remember you being delicate and/or sensitive and that you dont have a thick skin as much as I do, so believe me when I say, as much as I'd love to mollycoddle, I rather be a honest arsehole than a well liked liar Ihedinobi3:I am not sure why you are taking offence. It wasnt to be taken personal and it wasn't intended to be malicious. To be truthful, I honestly thought you, wrote you'd argue, and that's is why I brought in the ignorance slant. Not many know that, an argument an exchange of ignorance, whereas, discussions, are exchanges of knowledge, correct and useful information. So I merely was making an observational comment, but if it came too strong and you felt insulted by it, then again I tender my profuse apologies, and I've come to realise some of us have low thresholds Truth will always be truth, regardless of lack of understanding, disbelief or ignorance. The truth about the nephilim will always be the truth even if you or anyone else dont want believe it. Ihedinobi3:If a crooked stick is put before anyone, you need not convict them how crooked it is. Just lay a straight one down by the side of it, and the work is well done. Explain the truth, and the error of the way will be put out Ihedinobi3:Perhaps you now need to be reminded that, growth, comes by pruning. Ihedinobi3:Ihedinobi3, I never abuse. I just say things as they are. I call a spade a spade and dont call a spade a fork. I dont mince my words Ihedinobi3, especially not when talking with heavyweight people like you, maybe that is why you erroneously perceive me to be insulting and/or abusive to you Ihedinobi3, I know a thick skin is a gift from God, so just pray for a tough hide, if you havent already developed one. It is so important because you are going to be mocked, ridiculed, misunderstood, laughed at, your comments made fun of, take the mick out of, insulted, abused etcetera Ihedinobi3:God bless you too much for your kind, mature, wise words and understanding. Believe me when I say there is no malice. I will be more careful with my choice of words, whenever and when next I respond to posts you have interest in. This actually is déjà vu for me Ihedinobi3:Ihedinobi3, there is more that binds us together, than holds us apart Ihedinobi3:I got carried away, so I fully give you the right lambaste me Ihedinobi3:I sure have no intention to dictate to you or anyone. If you have the stamina and you are going to be true to your word, I will lay down on the ground the straight stick and put down a bowl of water but obviously cant force you to drink. It is going to be a bible verse upon bible verse, line upon line, a little here, and a little over there marathon affair. Be prepared and willing to unlearn whatever you've erroneously known nephilims to be, what "sons of God" etcetera to be. Ihedinobi3:If there are daughters of men, have you ever asked the questions: 1/ Who are the equivalent sons of men, as there are sons of God? 2/ What's the difference between the daughters of men and the daughters of God? 3/ Where the nephilims already on earth or not before the sons of God started going into the daughters of men? Ihedinobi3:"Don't pay any attention to any of those senseless Jewish stories" - Titus 1:14a You are conflating multiple separate incidents here Ihedinobi3, as what happened in Genesis 4:2-6 is quite different to what happened with Sodom and Gomorrah's Genesis attempted rape. It is also different to where Peter and Jude were talking about the same myth being discussed and argued upon on this thread. It is not only Peter and Jude warning against Jewish myths about angels having sex with human beings, even Paul too, warned Titus in Titus 1:14a above earlier reproduced, not to believe in them Ihedinobi3:I am so sorry to be the one saying to you that you've got hold of the wrong end of the stick here. You completely got wrong what Peter and Jude were messaging in their chapters. Peter and Jude wrote their letters combating heresies and talking exactly against the same myth being discussed and argued upon on this thread. Ihedinobi3:What may I ask, is it that the bible actually says? Produce what it is the bible is appeared to have said and let's with great care, thoroughness and in all its entirety examine it together. Ihedinobi3:You shouldnt listen to your emotions anyway in this regard, it is the head that needs listened to, in order to see, in this respect, clearly what the bible is telling and saying Ihedinobi3:Simply put, the nephilims are the product of when the righteous men (i.e. sons of God) had sex with daughters of the unrighteous men (i.e. daughters of men). The rest of the gist is beyond the scope of this thread Ihedinobi3:This is exactly part of what Peter, Jude and Paul in their individual letters and by proxy to us were warning about Ihedinobi3:Have you ever read of a physical appearance of satan and/or a demon to anyone in the bible ever? Ihedinobi3:OK. Again, I repeat, show me, somewhere in the bible, of a stated physical appearance of satan and/or a demon to anyone ever Ihedinobi3:Now its you learning to stretch the truth here. The bible never says the number of angels are fixed. What bible says about angels, is that they are innumerable, as in meaning, they cant be counted. Ihedinobi3:You dont know with this emboldened comment, how so close to the truth you are Ihedinobi3:Angels did nothing, angels did no such thing. This is what Peter, Jude and Paul were warning against, the belief in the ridiculous, belief in myths. This is not true, and so is slander. This is slandering angels. Ihedinobi3:"... Bold and self-willed, these men are unafraid to slander angelic majesties." - 2 Peter 2:10b I am sorry Ihedinobi3, it is with a heavy heart that I posted 2 Peter 2:10b up there for you to see and it hurts me more than it will ever hurt you Ihedinobi3:Ihedinobi3, I've been here, sold it, done it and have the "angels have sexual feelings" souvenir t-shirt I bought. There are quite a few many so-called truths we were raised with and forced to believe, that are not truths at all, so, yeah, I am willing to discuss, up to certain points, everything. You will have to be prepared to go the distance, because Believe me Ihedinobi3, I know with God's help, what I bring to the table, and trust me when I say, if need be, I am not afraid to eat alone |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Heart-to-heart: Am I Born LESBIAN, GAY, BISEXUAL, TRANSGENDER (LGBT)? by MuttleyLaff: 4:23pm On Feb 09, 2019*. Modified: 8:51am On Feb 10, 2019 |
ujnwachukwu:ujnwachukwu, since you refused to answer the which is superior question, maybe you will redeem yourself by answering this question I famously ask: 1/ What is your gripe with two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour? 2/ What is the evil, in what the two easy going, ordinary consenting adults in #1 above, have together? 3/ What is the perverseness, in #1 above, that you know of, that is in this particular and peculiar form of relationship? 4/ We saw the pair which God instructed to be taken male and female but do we see Him, at all, give two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour a bad press ujnwachukwu? 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Who Said Angels Don't Have Sexual Feelings? by MuttleyLaff: 12:43pm On Feb 09, 2019 |
Maamin:On that thread just like ihedinobi3 here, you were blindly and poorly arguing that angels have sexual desires. You were mistaken nephilims in Genesis 6:2-4 and elsewhere, like in the book of Job, to be angels. Angels only take human forms when on assignment from God. Except being on official assignment, celestial beings never take on form that look or resembles human beings. This is part of the reasons, why no one has ever seen physically Satan or seen a demon. I repeat that only human beings were given the mandate to procreate, never celestial beings also known as angels. 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Who Said Angels Don't Have Sexual Feelings? by MuttleyLaff: 9:59am On Feb 09, 2019*. Modified: 3:02pm On Feb 09, 2019 |
solite3: Ihedinobi3:Ihedinobi3, you've probably times without number, heard me say, I dont do arguments. Arguments or arguing over a matter, 110% stems from ignorance and opinions, it always is bereft of facts or factual information because of conjectures and subjectivity. This is why I dont do arguments, like you are doing here exchanging ignorance for another ignorance, mainly I havent got an ignorance to trade with. If I am not sure of a subject matter, I will remain and keep mum, as opposed to exhibiting and looking to trade with my ignorance Ihedinobi3:Well you are NOT adhering to this rule of yours about staying with what the bible actually says because there is no where in the bible where it states that angels have sexual appetite or sexual libido. Also no where in the bible, is it stated that angels have sexual desire. The notion hat sexual intercourse did in fact happen between the angels and the human women is completely and utterly wrong, il-informed and a total fallacy. How you misconstrued the nephilims in Genesis 6 and extrapolated Genesis 6:2-4 to be angels is outrageously baffling and scandalous Sometimes, we give Satan and especially, like in this case, his angels (i.e. demons), way too much credit. Imagine fallen angels having sex with human beings. Who dash angels monkey banana? I am sorry that is a bad pun so excuse it Ihedinobi3 To start with, after their rebellion, Satan & his fallen angels, lost whatever abilities they might have had, to appear in physical human forms period. Angels can ONLY appear in physical human forms and perform all permissible fleshly activities, if and/or when representing God. Anything less than being in that official capacity, automatically renders such beings, ineligible from having rights to appear as a human being to perform whatever permissible fleshly activities allowed. It just for such beings, wont happen Also whats important to know, is that, angels, never had, havent any mandate to procreate, that mandate was given to human beings, not and never to angels Ihedinobi3, kkins25, solite3 and others, you've all learned something completely worthless from whoever taught you all that nonsense, especially, in the case of the fact and truth, that they are no celestial beings (i.e. angels) involved anywhere in Genesis 6:2-4 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Heart-to-heart: Am I Born LESBIAN, GAY, BISEXUAL, TRANSGENDER (LGBT)? by MuttleyLaff: 9:00am On Feb 09, 2019 |
ujnwachukwu:Two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour Two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other lasting that's life-long and loyal heterosexual relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour In either of the case above, which is superior? WHO you love or HOW you love? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Who Said Angels Don't Have Sexual Feelings? by MuttleyLaff: 8:39am On Feb 09, 2019*. Modified: 6:13pm On Feb 09, 2019 |
kkins25: Ranchhoddas:"muttleylaff is not metatron, let's be clear on that. " - Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by MuttleyLaff: 8:49pm On Jan 20 kkins25, I humbly and respectfully say this that, you must be half clever and half crazy to open and write a thread full of hogwash, no facts at all, just speculation, sexual fantasies and littered with other sex addiction mumbo jumbo you can muster up The only real and solid fact in your write up and the only thing you got right, is saying angels are humanoid. Now if you know, accept and agree that angels are humanoid, as in, having an appearance resembling a human being without actually being one, meaning they look like human beings without actually being human beings, then what gave you the crazy, reckless and obsessive idea that angels have peniis, huh? kkins25, you, since I ever can remember, have always been fascinated with angels and them having sex with human beings. Why? Dont you realise kkins25, that, angels will first, have to be born, just like Jesus was, either as male or female, in order for them to have any chance to have sex with humans? That hasnt happened yet, has never happened, is yet to happen, so your bizarre, far-fetched theory gets shot down in flames. This applies to others like solite3 and even Ihedinobi3, whom, I am surprised he too bought into this angels having sex bullshit. Sodom and Gomorrah was pencilled and earmarked for destruction even before their attempted "rape" of the angels, so the attempted rape wasnt part of the original reason why the destruction punishment was mete on them. The attempted rape, just proven how bad and inhospitable these people have become. They are not welcoming or generous to strangers who visit, instead they are cruel and wicked to them and/or visitors. cc JujuSugar 2 Likes |
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