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Christianity Etc › Re: Happy Birthday, Vaxx by MuttleyLaff: 6:17pm On Jan 02, 2019
vaxx:
Thank you bross. Isewu and big stout for u there
Stout with my nkwobi and no isiewu for me please. Thank you very much.
Happy Birthday vaxx!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Matter Of Homosexuality by MuttleyLaff: 3:25pm On Jan 02, 2019
Ranchhoddas:
Abomination means something else? Interesting.

Go ahead biko!
This is second time you've made me laugh out like a hyena today. First it was when you said tacky examples and now this
Christianity Etc › Re: The Matter Of Homosexuality by MuttleyLaff: 3:12pm On Jan 02, 2019
Ranchhoddas:
^^Abomination!!!
It will be interesting to see Muttleylaff wriggle out of this trap that he has set for himself.
I have dealt with abomination severally in the past. This is a well trodden path for me. There is a lot of education to get on that interesting word abomination. It's just mind blowing.

I feel so sorry for the "against homosexuality" brigade. It is sad and worrying the level of the cult of ignorance.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Matter Of Homosexuality by MuttleyLaff:
solite3:
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

God called it an abomination.

Romans 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

Homosexuality is an error which comes from a reprobate mind.
It is a sin because it goes against God's moral law. It is an abomination because it subvers God's natural order.
Do you have the awareness that you don't understand what Leviticus 20:13 and Romans 1:26-28 were each and all about?

Also do you have the awareness that you fail to understand the context and the surrounding reason why God said abomination was committed in Leviticus 20:13?

What goes against God's moral is infidelity. Would you say driving with legs subverts God's natural order?

I repeated here questions I asked frosbel2. Would you love your kid any less if confided in you about being gay? Would you disown the kid?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Matter Of Homosexuality by MuttleyLaff: 2:27pm On Jan 02, 2019
HellVictorinho:
What!!!!! I stated that WE need a new study I never said that anyone that is gay must be stoned. And whatever knowledge anyone(including you) has concerning this matter is currently insufficient.
How do you mean what?. Did you read me saying you said or implied anyone that's gay should be stoned. It looks like your guilty conscience is disturbing you.

Now the knowledge out there is sufficient enough to let everyone know that practising same sex relationships the right way is OK with God


solite3:
God didn't create anyone as an homosexual, it is one of the manifestation of the sin nature of man. God hates homosexuality just as other sins but he chooses to deliver sinners including homosexuals from these sins through Jesus Christ. The question before every man is , do you want God's help through Jesus or you want to perish in sin? That's it
God never said he hated homosexual, please stop lying to yourself and stop deceiving others with your ignorance.

Show me in the Bible where God outrightly said he hates homosexuality and be prepared to clearly, cleanly and correctly defend it solite3
Christianity Etc › Re: The Matter Of Homosexuality by MuttleyLaff: 12:43pm On Jan 02, 2019
HellVictorinho:
That's thoughtful. But how do we determine what caused the first set of homosexual humans to be like that ?
With the utmost respect and without any intent to insult, both you, frosbel2 along with some ill-informed homophobic comments by other bigoted posters here are each and all ignorant, if you don't know that the human being by design is created with the impulse to swing the other way.

Why as frosbel2 suggests should anyone unlearn what is legitimately natural to me?
Would frosbel2 love his kid less if confided in him being gay? Would he disown the kid?

Of course, it isn't normal for you but it is normal to them. They arent attracted sexually to the opposite sex like we are. We don't live in a world where everything and everyone will be the same.

Homosexuals are least of anyone's and the world's problems. There are more problems like starvation, injustice, oppression, victimisation, homophobia etcetera to deal with than x-raying homosexual lifestyles
Christianity Etc › Re: The Matter Of Homosexuality by MuttleyLaff: 11:31am On Jan 02, 2019
HellVictorinho:
I am not 'Billyonaire' and I didn't post any website link!!!!!!! huh
Sorry, I thought the last part with slashes, in your
"Yet, I believe there is a lot to be
demystified/discovered/explained/corrected /simplified
" sentence was an incomplete website link
Christianity Etc › Re: The Matter Of Homosexuality by MuttleyLaff: 11:16am On Jan 02, 2019
HellVictorinho:
Every state of mind is a psychological matter. But the 'mental-activity' induced/propelled behavioral condition we are talking about has to be completely demystified.
."Everything is Meaningless"
Billyonaire or whatever your name is, the website link you posted is incomplete, please do the needful.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Matter Of Homosexuality by MuttleyLaff: 10:48am On Jan 02, 2019
HellVictorinho:
I am going to try to make this as short and as simple as possible.
Gays/Lesbians/Trannies and other people like that(un-straight) have matters that have been largely debated as regards their effects on societies.
But I think a NEW study is needed to help us to understand the phenomenon of human behavior.
I don't think psychology, psychiatry,biology, etc have been as effective as they should.
But they are still indispensable to us and I would like people to feel the impact of these fields greatly.
Yet,I believe there is a lot to be

demystified/discovered/explained/corrected /simplified.
The web link you posted is incomplete, please do the needful

Shelumiel:
It seems you enjoy talking before giving thought to anything . How can any right-thinking person say such? Common sense should tell you that homosexuality is something non-existent in nature(just look at animals and see if they practice such !). Did your mother mate with her kind to bring you into this world? Answer
Will you retract this comment and the above emboldened, if I provide you with proofs of the evidence of homosexual behaviours in nature and also give you examples of animals that practise it.
Christianity Etc › Re: Please Tell Us,how You Got The Thought "There Is No God Almighty by MuttleyLaff: 10:40am On Jan 02, 2019
Ranchhoddas:
Just so I am not mixing things up.
What do you think made your toes move?
Now there's a classic example of a healing that's also a miracle.

Ordinarily, that budaatum's toe won't ever again move naturally unless a superior rule is triggered, accessed, discovered, taken advantage of and/or activated
Christianity Etc › Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by MuttleyLaff: 9:39am On Jan 02, 2019
delishpot:
Ok o.
"Eledumare gbọ temi leni ooo. Amin. Sekem sekem! Sekem sekem sekem!!"
Christianity Etc › Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by MuttleyLaff: 9:32am On Jan 02, 2019
vaxx:
permission to download the image... s
Freely I received, freely I give

delishpot:
Yeye dey smell. grin grin
Ah that was nice, just finished my bowl of Kelloggs crunchy nut, today is another day to make some dough. Soon stepping out.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by MuttleyLaff: 9:12am On Jan 02, 2019
delishpot:
MuttleyLaff, you don baf this morning? Why you want start new year like this na? grin grin
Ah you be winch ooo, how did you know. I am buck "gbalanja" and just about stepping into the bath. I fear you ooo, not grin grin grin
Christianity Etc › Re: About 99% Of The Tongues Spoken In The Church Are Fake! by MuttleyLaff: 9:08am On Jan 02, 2019
Michellekabod1:
Is it compulsory for a christian to speak in tongues(i mean is everybody entitled to it as a gift of the holy spirit) or it is a gift (just like healing,word of wisdom or prophecy) that a few people get as the spirit wishes
MuttleyLaff:
For those, that might have been misinformed, it is a well documented truth, as seen in 1 Corinthians 14:22 above that speaking in tongues is not for believers, rather it is occurs for and as a sign, for unbelievers (i.e. 1 Corinthians 1:22a)

Remember, Paul, in 1 Corinthians 12:29, asked:
"Do all work miracles? Do all have gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues? Do all interpret? "
Guess what. The answer on each account is No, no, no and no.

Moving along, then at 1 Corinthians 12:31, Paul says:
"but Michellekabod1/jesusjnr covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way."
and it was after that comment in 1 Corinthians 12:31, that Paul introduced and brought in 1 Corinthians 13:1 emphasising love

Paul in 1 Corinthians 12:29 onwards, confirmed that not "all fingers are equal" and 1 Corinthians 12:29's "Do all speak in tongues?" is an strong indication, that, to speak in tongues, is not a requirement for all believers. Michellekabod1, to be honest with you, if you have love, you wouldnt neccesarily need the gift of speaking in tongues and that is because love surpasses and conquers all.

Michellekabod1, you and I, know many so called self styled tongues speaking christians, who do not have love, yet regularly during prayer sessions, all are called upon and propelled by pastors/worship leaders to start "speaking in tongues" and pray in tongues. You then remember 1 Corinthians 14:27–28, and begin wondering, do the pastors/worship leaders telling people to start "speaking in tongues" and pray in tongues have cognisance of scriptures like that?

I can go on, as I have many more things to say, but will pause at this juncture, if not, will risk it all become an information overload. Any questions asked to clarify or shed more light will be welcomed
cc luvmijeje
Exactly, it isnt compulsory for a christian believer to speak in tongues (i.e. it isnt, as a gift of the holy spirit, an entitlement for everybody. Just like the gift of healing, word of wisdom or prophecy, people get it or them, as the spirit wills)
Christianity Etc › Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by MuttleyLaff: 9:00am On Jan 02, 2019
delishpot:
I wish you exactly what you wish me and I hope you take your own advice too
Savage!
Some know how to bury the hatchet but let the blade stick out. Ah! I just so much love you delishpot
Christianity Etc › Re: About 99% Of The Tongues Spoken In The Church Are Fake! by MuttleyLaff:
Michellekabod1:
All my life been a christian i never felt the tongues coming despite how many times i tried. I was bullied by other christians and told i was not a real christian since i couldnt speak in tongues.
I realised it was easy to speak in tongues;convince yourself that saying rahahagababaaaasshiterombobo is normal,then it will flow freely.
I adjusted my mindset to accept speaking gibberish....
It worked well.
Michellekabod1:
Morning,how are you today?
So how do you differentiate the real from fake
This is what indoctrination and bad spiritual midwifery experience causes.

Michellekabod1, to speak in tongues, means audibly saying something out or make sounds with your voice to express your thoughts and feelings in a structured, conventional, intelligible and understandable way.

As a matter of fact, speaking in tongues has always been in human language, and not about uttering non understandable words. It is not deceiving yourself with, saying that rahahagababaaaasshiterombobo nonsense, it in actual fact, that nonsense, is not just only, fake and not normal, it is outlandishly demonic or devilish too. The bible confirms this, so dont assume I am exaggerating or that I made up that the fake speaking in tongues is "outlandishly demonic or devilish"

Speak in tongues is language (i.e. tongues of man=human language) and has the same meaning and connotation with mother tongue, native tongue, dialect, vernacular etcetera. .
For example, you can speak in vernacular, can speak in your local dialect, might speak in a native tongue or speak in your mother tongue

There is a time and a place for everything, and also there is always a reason for everything that happens or why it does not happen

1/ Are you aware of the reason, who for, speaking in tongues were and are given?
2/ Are you aware speaking in tongues, is not a quick fix or shortcut substitute to actual and outright interpretable prayers?
3/ Are you aware there are bliblical laid down guidelines for speaking in tongues?
4/ Are you aware that, Paul downplays the importance of speaking in tongues?

Paul, as a matter of fact and truth, on record, even said, do not speak in tongues without an interpreter but this advice and guideline, is openly and flagrantly disregarded during gathering worships and/or prayer sessions

There is a popular saying in the western part of Nigeria, that goes like this: "Bi o ba nidi, obinrin kii nje Kumolu"
translated loosely means "There is no smoke without fire, there's a reason for or behind naming a girl Kumolu"

There was a reason for the believers, on pentecost, to miracuously speak in tongues
and it is the same repeated reason, for the only two other miracle ocassions of speaking in tongues in the bible.

The genuine speaking in tongue, is so infrequent now because it's original and primary purpose was for the benefit of the unbelieving lost sheep of Israel, the reference for this, can be found at Acts 2:5. With the gift of genuine speaking in tongue passed on, it's purpose fundamentally, is still for convincing unbelief or scepticism.

12“I have many more things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now.
13“But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth;
for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak;
and He will disclose to you what is to come

- John 16:12-13

For Jews demand miraculous signs (i.e. ask for signs)
and Greeks ask for wisdom (i.e. philiosophy)
- 1 Corinthians 1:22

So you see that speaking in tongues is a sign, not for believers, but for unbelievers.
Prophecy, however, is for the benefit of believers, not unbelievers.

- 1 Corinthians 14:22

For all the 3 recorded times, speaking in other tongues, occurred in the bible, it is visibly noted that, it happened each time, for the benefit of unbelieving Jews

For those, that might have been misinformed, it is a well documented truth, as seen in 1 Corinthians 14:22 above that speaking in tongues is not for believers, rather it is occurs for and as a sign, for unbelievers (i.e. 1 Corinthians 1:22a)

Remember, Paul, in 1 Corinthians 12:29, asked:
"Do all work miracles? Do all have gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues? Do all interpret? "
Guess what. The answer on each account is No, no, no and no.

Moving along, then at 1 Corinthians 12:31, Paul says:
"but Michellekabod1/jesusjnr covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way."
and it was after that comment in 1 Corinthians 12:31, that Paul introduced and brought in 1 Corinthians 13:1 emphasising love

Paul in 1 Corinthians 12:29 onwards, confirmed that not "all fingers are equal" and 1 Corinthians 12:29's "Do all speak in tongues?" is an strong indication, that, to speak in tongues, is not a requirement for all believers. Michellekabod1, to be honest with you, if you have love, you wouldnt neccesarily need the gift of speaking in tongues and that is because love surpasses and conquers all.

Michellekabod1, you and I, know many so called self styled tongues speaking christians, who do not have love, yet regularly during prayer sessions, all are called upon and propelled by pastors/worship leaders to start "speaking in tongues" and pray in tongues. You then remember 1 Corinthians 14:27–28, and begin wondering, do the pastors/worship leaders telling people to start "speaking in tongues" and pray in tongues have cognisance of scriptures like that?

I can go on, as I have many more things to say, but will pause at this juncture, if not, will risk it all become an information overload. Any questions asked to clarify or shed more light will be welcomed
cc luvmijeje
Christianity Etc › Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by MuttleyLaff: 9:54pm On Jan 01, 2019
budaatum:
One person's overthink is another's just getting started, muttley. Not everyone is afraid of their mind running out. Especially those whose cup is full and overflowing. For some, burying head in sand is no option. Each to their own, I guess.

Happy you too.
PastorDavidAwuj:
grin
budaatum:
Well! Imagine him trying to get me not to overuse my God given brain as if it would run out like his does! I wonder what God put it in my head for if not for it to be used!

MuttleyLaff, if you don't use the brain you are given, please know that it would be removed from inside your head and given to me who uses mine and I would become buda2brains, while you become muttleynobrain!

The choice is entirely your's!
budaatum calm down, its barely a day yet into the New Year and you're already doing "alafejumo ole" Oliver Twist

Before you get your knickers in a twist, the overriding part of "not to overthinking too much" were the two keywords "too much"
We can overthink, but not to overthink too much. Capisce?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by MuttleyLaff:
Michellekabod1:
I guess taking offence was my fault,i should have known better.
It is not usual to see you christian folks spew out words without inquiry or reasoning....it is the usual trend.
I guess the RIP should be for your ability to think not my moniker.

By the way happy new year, no love lost
You are a phoenix!
I love you. You always the strong woman I saw you be and is.
PS I had it typed on before but because I didnt want to remove, after the ..., I just added RIP, as I was devastated by it & really in grief
Christianity Etc › Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by MuttleyLaff:
https://i.pinimg.com/474x/d6/91/f2/d691f2f59b81bca264127d212b63b542.jpg
Glory and honour to God for witnessing 2019 which equates to a brand new 365 new days and 365 new chances to do the right thing

The Oga at the top Seun, amiable+capable moderators OAM4J & Mynd44, Ranchhoddas, budaatum, OtemAtum, PastorAIO, vaxx, tintingz, MizMyColi, MhizAngel99 aka LordReed, jesusjnr, Michellekabod RIP, Michellekabod1, luvmijeje, finalboss, MizyB, babeosisi, Goshen360, Ihedinobi3, bloodofthelamb, frank317, Gombs, petra1, joagbaje, OkCornel, OkaiCorne, VBCampaign, plainbibletruth, NPComplete, PastorDavidAwuj, LadyAnn, TATIME, Mujtahida, MrPresident1, Ishilove, naptu2, dominique, holahmihdeh, HappyPagan, JMG1, CAPSLOCKED, LoJ, Glycolysis, HopefulLandlord, solite3, paxonel, alBHAGDADI, francis247, Ubenedictus, 9inches, Syncan, Syncan, johnydon22, AAinEqGuinea, HardMirror, donnie, Akin1212, FOLYKAZE, manmustwac, Godsfavour78, frosbel2,, Splinz, OLAADEGBU, Image123, Anas09, chemystery, JMAN05, delishpot, Mobilia, brocab, Primesky, DoctorAlien, Originakalokalo, omojeesu, tintingz, pressplay411, blueAgent, ScienceWatch, ichuka, , kevoh, JeromeBlack, chiedu7, scott67, TroublemakerPro etcetera

I vehemently wish my above aforementioned neighbours to stop overthinking too much because it's alright not to know all the answers

HAPPY 2019 everyone!
Christianity Etc › Re: Please Tell Us,how You Got The Thought "There Is No God Almighty by MuttleyLaff: 7:13pm On Jan 01, 2019
Ranchhoddas:
This is isn't what I meant. Stabbed victims are told to be calm so that their heart does not pump as much blood. This is purely physical/biological.
The rules you talk of are simply physical. Knowledge acquired as a result of work done in a lab.
This should not qualify as a miracle of any hierarchy.

Miracle: An extraordinary and welcome event that is not explicable by natural or scientific laws and is therefore attributed to a divine agency


Your experience does not fit this definition in any way. Same thing with your "god of Nairaland" analogy.
Ranchhoddas did I call it a miracle? Did I used miracle at all in my cut finger narrative?. You see, people will always read what they want to read, and even if sometimes go to the length of inventing what wasnt in content they read. I didnt say anything about "a miracle of any hierarchy" but mentioned "healing hierarchy and spectrum". They are chalk and cheese

I am pleased to read your succint miracle definition. I couldnt have provided a better definition than that, even if I did, it'll only be slightly better. Healing and miracles are different in the sense that every miracles is a healing of some sort, but not all healings are miracles. I know you 'll want to contest my last sentence but trust me, its undeniably true Ranchhoddas. My cut finger that I recovered from was a healing and not a miracle. It was a simple and ordinary experience so doesnt qualify to be classed a miracle

Now I dont know how you veered off on a strawman mining expedition, even from our last discussion, you seem to be grappling with the concept of rules, and I am seeing evidences of you repeating here too.

I dont know what for, why you had to ask me, if my thoughts had anything to do with the healing, because I never gave the impression that I engaged my thought to assist with healing. What I said, was I just remembered that the blood flow will stop as soon as I clot and that gave me comfort that I was aware of that. Now remember I did say, different thoughts to or for different situations, and the knife wound just fitted that scenario, even applicable to car crash accident victims too

Of course my experience, wont fit the miracle definition. I never at all, said it was a miracle Ranchhoddas. I said, my experience, is definitely one, out of the many lower cadres, in the healing hierarchy and spectrum. The rules that it follows, obviously isnt as strict, complex and rigid as the rules the higher cadres adhere to.

OK let me give you an example of a healing in a somewhat higher cadre in the healing hierarchy and spectrum, the liver. The liver when cut or ruptured grows itself back. Now some ailments, diseases, deformities, etcetera require a miracle aside healing.

What are you disputing about the "god of Nairaland"?
The "god of Nairaland" is as a matter of fact a microcosm of God, the "god of Nairaland" sphere of influence is limited to Nairaland
He is the "god of Nairaland" because of the authority, power, knowledge, presence (i.e. sees activities going on the site), intelligence, love and influence he has over Nairaland.

Being "god" that he is, of course shares similarities with God but the distinctions between him and God becomes very apparent if/when analysed
Christianity Etc › Re: Counterfeit Christianity-victor Hafichuk by MuttleyLaff:
Michellekabod:
pardon?
You are asking me, pardon?
Are you the original author of that post you pasted up there?
If not, then no credit was given, that the post is someone's else intellectual property
How would you feel if someone pasted your work online without acknowledging you as the original author?
So is this behaviour overlooked in atheism?
Christianity Etc › Re: Counterfeit Christianity-victor Hafichuk by MuttleyLaff: 5:41pm On Jan 01, 2019
https://www.thepathoftruth.com/teachings/counterfeit-christianity.htm

If you cant make your own cheese from milking other cows at different dairy farms then please excuse me from this copy and paste shenanigan.
Christianity Etc › Re: Please Tell Us,how You Got The Thought "There Is No God Almighty by MuttleyLaff: 5:30pm On Jan 01, 2019
Ranchhoddas:
Oga, on your example of the hierarchy of healing and your cut finger. Did your thoughts have anything to do with the healing?

Muttleylaff
Sir, without any thought, the healing would have already set off in motion, this because of a specific rule(s)

The only thing my thought had to do, concerning the healing, was the knowledge or knowing that according to the rules, clotting will precede the healing start off.
Remember the finger initially was profusely bleeding, I kept changing bandages, as it soon got soaked, then I remembered that if I am not hemophiliac, then in a short while, the blood would clot if I press down the cut with pressure to stop the flow. This did happen, so another rule was ready to be set off, in motion for healing to progress

I remember, stabbed assault victims being tried to get remained calm, so not to let them think about the in a negative manner that will exacerbate things like keeping blood flowing from the stab wound. So yeah, thoughts would have its role or part to play in healings but then different thoughts to or for different situations
Christianity Etc › Re: Please Tell Us,how You Got The Thought "There Is No God Almighty by MuttleyLaff: 4:40pm On Jan 01, 2019
budaatum:
I watched it in my bubbles too and it got me fumming! Disgraceful!
But which one of them all is not a fraud? And why the tinies? Afraid to admit the preachers of your faith use it to exploit others?
Any and all doing staged miracles or sell false hopes sneakingly promising anticipation a miracle(s) is a fraud

It isnt just preachers of my faith only that stage miracles or sell false hopes when psyching people up to receive miracles, it's a general fradulent enterprise that cuts through

What in its context, do you mean "... why the tinies"?

budaatum:
Does Tunde Bakare do miracles, by the way.
Whats with the interest in Tunde Bakare?
budaatum maybe do or you dont know this, but they dont say or they never say, they do miracles by themselves.

Miracles is a subject Ranchhoddas finds fascinating and is very intrigued about. In our brief discussions over miracles and elsewhere I've read his posts commenting on miracles, you get the sense, he is trying to grasp the surrealism of miracles, he is trying to finger and pin down what's the irrational thing that stimulates miracles.

I recall typing the following at one of his comments:
"Is that the only example?
Ranchhoddas, check under the bonnet, to know how the genotype changed.
miracles at Shiloh, is a mix of placebo effects, genuine, hoaxes and the dark.

placebo effects wont necessarily affect the result outcome of a genotype test
"

I am not a medical personnel nor am I an expertise in genotype, but I do know medical personnel experts in knowledge and study of genotype, I mean to be honest, even me, from what I've research online on genotype, it is possible with science to change, however just like with IVF, not every IVF treatment is a success, hmm, this is where certain level of miracle comes in

The thing about miracles, and there are quite a lot more, beyond the scope of this present discussion, to know about this, is that fundamentally healing and miracles, just like everything and everyone else in the world follow rules. I strongly believe that there is a healing and miracle hierarchy

I'll give you a quick and short example. The other day, long time ago, maybe months or a year ago. Whilst out and about, going after my business, I somehow, accidentally cut one of my fingers. I wasnt too pleased because obviously, with the persistent bleeding, it became a nuisance and was slowing me down in effectively and efficiently carrying doing my work. The bleeding never stopped on time, still flowing that I had to wrap bands from in my car's first aid kit to stem the flowing blood. Suddenly I had this sense of comfort of mind, I thought to myself, as soon as the blood clots, the flowing blood will stop and knew that in a few days or weeks time the finger will heal. Without laboring the retelling the event, that's exactly what happened, the blood soon stopped after the clotting, and a few weeks after, the finger healed leaving no scar behind

The above example, is definitely one, out of the many lower cadres, in the healing hierarchy and spectrum. The rules that it follows, obviously isnt as strict, complex and rigid as the rules the higher cadres adhere to.

It actually is because of misunderstanding, misinterpretation and of being ill-informed that healing and/or miracles are confusingly being looked for, being expected and searched for.
These instances often are done in wrong places, with wrong persons and at an inappropriate or wrong time.
Christianity Etc › Re: Please Tell Us,how You Got The Thought "There Is No God Almighty by MuttleyLaff: 4:29pm On Jan 01, 2019
MhizAngel99:
Leave MuttleyLaff alone. He's a lost cause. When a man has no evidence for his claims, his only option is to frantically discredit his opposer by any means necessary.
He's been twisting everything i say 4rm the very start, but honestly i don't even care. They say its not good to argue with stupid people cos they'll drag u to their level and beat you with experience. I've learnt my lesson. I may not believe in any god but MuttleyLaff's stupidity cannot be ordinary. The funniest thing about is that he didn't even bother to address what i quoted from the website. He didn't even try to tackle the points raised in it. You have to give him credit sha, its not easy being a dense intolerant prick.
Did you not read the succint jesusjnr summation of you? I mean this:
"It's okay you've unwittingly exposed your ignorance on spiritual matters.
But it's OK to remain at your level for this matter far exceeds your physical scope.
"

If you're honest, you'll admit, I answered all your questions, I also suggested you do searches on Religion search with "MuttleyLaff adversity" and another with "MuttleyLaff merisms" strings to learn about why and how natural disasters evolved
You arent aware of fundamentals, the simplest elements & basics and because of that deficit, all I wrote went swoosh over your head.

Now please dont mention my monicker again in relation to this thread, I beg you.
Dont discuss or comment me again in relation to this thread too
Christianity Etc › Re: Did You Become An Atheist In 2018? by MuttleyLaff: 4:14pm On Jan 01, 2019
plaetton:
Bullshyte.
I appreciate you recognising good bullshit when you see it.
I serve it steaming and sizzling hot. I do soft and tough bullshits

plaetton:
But then, with all things imagnary, anything is possible in the imaginary world. Right ?
God is always there, right ?
Duh!! That's the whole essence of being imaginary.
budaatum's earlier pasted dictionary definition of religion corroborated and reinforced my point that he is oblivious of, which is, apart from yours and his atheism, which in itself, is a religion, stranger than fiction too, is that you and him, actually practise another religion, that hapens to be pure and true and which you'll both accept and agree is faultless and you both do it whilst being atheists. It's bizzare, isnt it?
Christianity Etc › Re: How The Teaching Of Paul Differs From The Teaching Of Christ(part 1) by MuttleyLaff:
luvmijeje:
I want to thank these two men for pushing me to get to this moment. Jesusjnr for being the first to challenge the teaching of Paul(That I've seen). And muttleylaff for challenging me for daring to question Paul. Believe it or not when I first told muttleylaff that the teaching of Paul differs from the teaching of Christ, I had no clue how. But in subsequent days I started receiving revelations. So it's time to share my revelations. For those who don't know what revelation is....... Revelation is seeing things in a new light. So let's proceed.

1st Corinthians 12 : 28(Paul's teaching)


The introduction of spiritual hierarchy was never part of Christ's teachings rather he was against it.

In Matthew 12 : 46 - 50(Christ's teaching)


No one came first, second nor third.
I do remember I challenged you on on quite a few more other things than your slander against Paul.

The original and first one concerning the disciples training and testing, you havent repeated your false accusations upon being back from your brief hiatus

The subsequent one is where and when you went on a strawman mining and deflection, going on to, mix up the denying the existence of God, with delay of God intervening, mixing up a denial of the existence of God with Christ's assertion cry on the cross of purpose
Delay does not be denial. Just because I am late in turning up for a scheduled, expected or arranged meeting, doesnt equate to I dont or no longer exist, because you havent seen sight of me

You also misunderstood what Jesus uttered on the the cross on Calvary, misinterpreting it that Jesus was deserted by God

I think there is another one but I dont remember what it is but sure can find out what it is, if I scroll through the threads

Now you're coming up with this half thought through "no one came first, second nor third" false bullshit and comparing 1st Corinthians 12 : 28 (Paul's teaching) with Matthew 12 : 46 - 50 (Christ's teaching)

What have you to say about Matthew 19:30, Matthew 20:16 and Mark 10:31? Hmm? Huh?
Those are Jesus' words in white and red talking about first, he overstepped second and third, didnt talk about them but jumped to last.

You see, that's why I always pity the lot and their coveted positions of Pastor, Bishop, Arcbishop or Prophet.
The sheeple carry bible for them, the sheeple are subservient to them or the sheeple are with two knees on the ground, as they step out of their limousines.

Now the thing is, the so called self styled pastors, bishops, arcbishops and/or prophets dont seem to grasp or acknowledge that there is going to be a position reverse, so they enjoy the trappings and bask in the glory of being pastors, bishops, arcbishops and/or prophets.

Another thing, most dont what to know about, is you are not meant to be called or addressed as a Pastor, Bishop, Arcbishop or Prophet but hey, what do I know, someone will say, it's Paul's fault, that the blame rests with him. SMH.

You should cover your face in shame for admitting this:
"Believe it or not when I first told muttleylaff that the teaching of Paul differs from the teaching of Christ, I had no clue how. But in subsequent days I started receiving revelations"

You had no clue, yet you were huffing, puffing and snorting all over the place as if you had. Do you realise how many you've mislead or let go off the rail because of your cluelessness? I could spit on you, if you were near me now. So you hadnt a clue but you were doing gra-gra-gra upon nothing. No wonder, I repeatedly called you olodo upon twenty, there is truth in that afterall. I just knew you're all mouth & noise. SMH

I almost just tire for you, it's people like you, that turn the bible upside down because of misunderstanding and being ill-informed.

I am still waiting for you to dare repeat your false accusation that Luke 9:1-5 wasnt about the disciples being on a training course & getting tested
Christianity Etc › Re: Please Tell Us,how You Got The Thought "There Is No God Almighty by MuttleyLaff: 1:19pm On Jan 01, 2019
budaatum:
This is buda! Atheist buda! The buda who takes no one's word for anything that really matters! How dare you make out you are god, with "take your word for it"?! Are you nuts or something?
Left your brain in last year maybe? About "accept!

Show me, man. Or shut the fuq up!
Exactly my point, you just are only reinforcing it. Thats why I said I am not surprised.
Give it a rest, simply let it go, certain things in life, you'll never know the answer for.
So, what do you do? Nothing, except simply get on with it, move on and get on with the rest of life.

PS: please budaatum all these bad energy and negativity should've been be left behind in 2018. Wipe the slate clean, start afresh, start all over
Christianity Etc › Re: Please Tell Us,how You Got The Thought "There Is No God Almighty by MuttleyLaff: 1:00pm On Jan 01, 2019
budaatum:
Well, you know I'm not the sort to just take one's word for it.

No evidence, you might as well be talking through your ass, as far as buda is concerned.
What part of, you need not have more evidence that what I've already given, dont you want to accept.
You can take my word to the bank but I am not surprised you wont.

PS I watched that your "giving false hope" miracle video last night. I was grieved & hurt though I previously knew those two chaps are scammers budaatum
Christianity Etc › Re: Please Tell Us,how You Got The Thought "There Is No God Almighty by MuttleyLaff: 12:50pm On Jan 01, 2019
budaatum:
Do you know there's some idiot claiming my Lord is buda too?
Yeah, I saw it, and think it was on the "You Become An Atheist Due To Limited Knowledge" thread

budaatum:
I don't believe this! Evidence please!
"Amo ara wa, ti a ba rira wa"
loosely translated means "we recognise each other when we bump into each other"

I am not giving away trade secrets and insider knowledge, so not saying or giving out more than that
Christianity Etc › Re: Please Tell Us,how You Got The Thought "There Is No God Almighty by MuttleyLaff: 12:28pm On Jan 01, 2019
LordReed:
Mwahahahahaha! When you fairytale believers get trounced you default to conspiracy theories and cooked up stories.
Face your thrashing at the hands of MhizAngel99 and don't pull me in. LMFAO!
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Christianity Etc › Re: Please Tell Us,how You Got The Thought "There Is No God Almighty by MuttleyLaff: 12:12pm On Jan 01, 2019
budaatum:
I don't think MhizAngel99 claimed she wrote that piece, considering her "consider this" at the beginning, the bad formatting, and being new here not knowing how unaccredited copy and pastes don't go down well, muttley.

Does the new you think that's worth the tirade, or una don de fight before?
Let me whisper it to you, dont let the walls hear. That's no spring chicken, that is LordReed masquerading with his alter ego MhizAngel99

Won sope, ilu baje, ilu baje, ilu ti baje, but why wouldnt be country be bad, spoilt and corrupt, when we have supposedly right thinking people making excuses for bad behaviour. SMH.

budaatum:
Oh, I see! You got lectured, muttley. That should teach you!
What you up to? Are you trying to kee me wif laff?
C'mon now, ariwo ko ni music now. The fundamentals, the simplest elements & basics, nada, he isnt aware of them

What you called lecture, is confirmed "agbari ofo", meaning it's noise, nonsense and ingredients.
He didnt teach, rather I did him. He got a handful of education and sign-postings from me.

It actually is the other way round, he was thrashed like the village market square thief he is, for getting caught red handed with his hand stuck in the cookie jar

PS: please this is a brand New Year Year and I havent got time for rederede, jatijati penkele mess

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