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vaxx:Stout with my nkwobi and no isiewu for me please. Thank you very much. Happy Birthday vaxx! |
Ranchhoddas:This is second time you've made me laugh out like a hyena today. First it was when you said tacky examples and now this |
Ranchhoddas:I have dealt with abomination severally in the past. This is a well trodden path for me. There is a lot of education to get on that interesting word abomination. It's just mind blowing. I feel so sorry for the "against homosexuality" brigade. It is sad and worrying the level of the cult of ignorance. |
solite3:Do you have the awareness that you don't understand what Leviticus 20:13 and Romans 1:26-28 were each and all about? Also do you have the awareness that you fail to understand the context and the surrounding reason why God said abomination was committed in Leviticus 20:13? What goes against God's moral is infidelity. Would you say driving with legs subverts God's natural order? I repeated here questions I asked frosbel2. Would you love your kid any less if confided in you about being gay? Would you disown the kid? |
HellVictorinho:How do you mean what?. Did you read me saying you said or implied anyone that's gay should be stoned. It looks like your guilty conscience is disturbing you. Now the knowledge out there is sufficient enough to let everyone know that practising same sex relationships the right way is OK with God solite3:God never said he hated homosexual, please stop lying to yourself and stop deceiving others with your ignorance. Show me in the Bible where God outrightly said he hates homosexuality and be prepared to clearly, cleanly and correctly defend it solite3 |
HellVictorinho:With the utmost respect and without any intent to insult, both you, frosbel2 along with some ill-informed homophobic comments by other bigoted posters here are each and all ignorant, if you don't know that the human being by design is created with the impulse to swing the other way. Why as frosbel2 suggests should anyone unlearn what is legitimately natural to me? Would frosbel2 love his kid less if confided in him being gay? Would he disown the kid? Of course, it isn't normal for you but it is normal to them. They arent attracted sexually to the opposite sex like we are. We don't live in a world where everything and everyone will be the same. Homosexuals are least of anyone's and the world's problems. There are more problems like starvation, injustice, oppression, victimisation, homophobia etcetera to deal with than x-raying homosexual lifestyles |
HellVictorinho:Sorry, I thought the last part with slashes, in your "Yet, I believe there is a lot to be demystified/discovered/explained/corrected /simplified" sentence was an incomplete website link |
HellVictorinho:Billyonaire or whatever your name is, the website link you posted is incomplete, please do the needful. |
HellVictorinho:The web link you posted is incomplete, please do the needful Shelumiel:Will you retract this comment and the above emboldened, if I provide you with proofs of the evidence of homosexual behaviours in nature and also give you examples of animals that practise it. |
Ranchhoddas:Now there's a classic example of a healing that's also a miracle. Ordinarily, that budaatum's toe won't ever again move naturally unless a superior rule is triggered, accessed, discovered, taken advantage of and/or activated |
delishpot:"Eledumare gbọ temi leni ooo. Amin. Sekem sekem! Sekem sekem sekem!!" |
delishpot:Ah you be winch ooo, how did you know. I am buck "gbalanja" and just about stepping into the bath. I fear you ooo, not ![]() |
Michellekabod1: MuttleyLaff:Exactly, it isnt compulsory for a |
delishpot:Savage! Some know how to bury the hatchet but let the blade stick out. Ah! I just so much love you delishpot |
Michellekabod1: Michellekabod1:This is what indoctrination and bad spiritual midwifery experience causes. Michellekabod1, to speak in tongues, means audibly saying something out or make sounds with your voice to express your thoughts and feelings in a structured, conventional, intelligible and understandable way. As a matter of fact, speaking in tongues has always been in human language, and not about uttering non understandable words. It is not deceiving yourself with, saying that rahahagababaaaasshiterombobo nonsense, it in actual fact, that nonsense, is not just only, fake and not normal, it is outlandishly demonic or devilish too. The bible confirms this, so dont assume I am exaggerating or that I made up that the fake speaking in tongues is "outlandishly demonic or devilish" Speak in tongues is language (i.e. tongues of man=human language) and has the same meaning and connotation with mother tongue, native tongue, dialect, vernacular etcetera. . For example, you can speak in vernacular, can speak in your local dialect, might speak in a native tongue or speak in your mother tongue There is a time and a place for everything, and also there is always a reason for everything that happens or why it does not happen 1/ Are you aware of the reason, who for, speaking in tongues were and are given? 2/ Are you aware speaking in tongues, is not a quick fix or shortcut substitute to actual and outright interpretable prayers? 3/ Are you aware there are bliblical laid down guidelines for speaking in tongues? 4/ Are you aware that, Paul downplays the importance of speaking in tongues? Paul, as a matter of fact and truth, on record, even said, do not speak in tongues without an interpreter but this advice and guideline, is openly and flagrantly disregarded during gathering worships and/or prayer sessions There is a popular saying in the western part of Nigeria, that goes like this: "Bi o ba nidi, obinrin kii nje Kumolu" translated loosely means "There is no smoke without fire, there's a reason for or behind naming a girl Kumolu" There was a reason for the believers, on pentecost, to miracuously speak in tongues and it is the same repeated reason, for the only two other miracle ocassions of speaking in tongues in the bible. The genuine speaking in tongue, is so infrequent now because it's original and primary purpose was for the benefit of the unbelieving lost sheep of Israel, the reference for this, can be found at Acts 2:5. With the gift of genuine speaking in tongue passed on, it's purpose fundamentally, is still for convincing unbelief or scepticism. 12“I have many more things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. 13“But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come - John 16:12-13 For Jews demand miraculous signs (i.e. ask for signs) and Greeks ask for wisdom (i.e. philiosophy) - 1 Corinthians 1:22 So you see that speaking in tongues is a sign, not for believers, but for unbelievers. Prophecy, however, is for the benefit of believers, not unbelievers. - 1 Corinthians 14:22 For all the 3 recorded times, speaking in other tongues, occurred in the bible, it is visibly noted that, it happened each time, for the benefit of unbelieving Jews For those, that might have been misinformed, it is a well documented truth, as seen in 1 Corinthians 14:22 above that speaking in tongues is not for believers, rather it is occurs for and as a sign, for unbelievers (i.e. 1 Corinthians 1:22a) Remember, Paul, in 1 Corinthians 12:29, asked: "Do all work miracles? Do all have gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues? Do all interpret? " Guess what. The answer on each account is No, no, no and no. Moving along, then at 1 Corinthians 12:31, Paul says: "but and it was after that comment in 1 Corinthians 12:31, that Paul introduced and brought in 1 Corinthians 13:1 emphasising love Paul in 1 Corinthians 12:29 onwards, confirmed that not "all fingers are equal" and 1 Corinthians 12:29's "Do all speak in tongues?" is an strong indication, that, to speak in tongues, is not a requirement for all believers. Michellekabod1, to be honest with you, if you have love, you wouldnt neccesarily need the gift of speaking in tongues and that is because love surpasses and conquers all. Michellekabod1, you and I, know many so called self styled tongues speaking christians, who do not have love, yet regularly during prayer sessions, all are called upon and propelled by pastors/worship leaders to start "speaking in tongues" and pray in tongues. You then remember 1 Corinthians 14:27–28, and begin wondering, do the pastors/worship leaders telling people to start "speaking in tongues" and pray in tongues have cognisance of scriptures like that? I can go on, as I have many more things to say, but will pause at this juncture, if not, will risk it all become an information overload. Any questions asked to clarify or shed more light will be welcomed cc luvmijeje |
budaatum: PastorDavidAwuj: budaatum:budaatum calm down, its barely a day yet into the New Year and you're already doing "alafejumo ole" Oliver Twist Before you get your knickers in a twist, the overriding part of "not to overthinking too much" were the two keywords "too much" We can overthink, but not to overthink too much. Capisce? |
Michellekabod1:You are a phoenix! I love you. You always the strong woman I saw you be and is. PS I had it typed on before but because I didnt want to remove, after the ..., I just added RIP, as I was devastated by it & really in grief |
https://i.pinimg.com/474x/d6/91/f2/d691f2f59b81bca264127d212b63b542.jpg Glory and honour to God for witnessing 2019 which equates to a brand new 365 new days and 365 new chances to do the right thing The Oga at the top Seun, amiable+capable moderators OAM4J & Mynd44, Ranchhoddas, budaatum, OtemAtum, PastorAIO, vaxx, tintingz, MizMyColi, MhizAngel99 aka LordReed, jesusjnr, I vehemently wish my above aforementioned neighbours to stop overthinking too much because it's alright not to know all the answers HAPPY 2019 everyone! |
Ranchhoddas:Ranchhoddas did I call it a miracle? Did I used miracle at all in my cut finger narrative?. You see, people will always read what they want to read, and even if sometimes go to the length of inventing what wasnt in content they read. I didnt say anything about "a miracle of any hierarchy" but mentioned "healing hierarchy and spectrum". They are chalk and cheese I am pleased to read your succint miracle definition. I couldnt have provided a better definition than that, even if I did, it'll only be slightly better. Healing and miracles are different in the sense that every miracles is a healing of some sort, but not all healings are miracles. I know you 'll want to contest my last sentence but trust me, its undeniably true Ranchhoddas. My cut finger that I recovered from was a healing and not a miracle. It was a simple and ordinary experience so doesnt qualify to be classed a miracle Now I dont know how you veered off on a strawman mining expedition, even from our last discussion, you seem to be grappling with the concept of rules, and I am seeing evidences of you repeating here too. I dont know what for, why you had to ask me, if my thoughts had anything to do with the healing, because I never gave the impression that I engaged my thought to assist with healing. What I said, was I just remembered that the blood flow will stop as soon as I clot and that gave me comfort that I was aware of that. Now remember I did say, different thoughts to or for different situations, and the knife wound just fitted that scenario, even applicable to car crash accident victims too Of course my experience, wont fit the miracle definition. I never at all, said it was a miracle Ranchhoddas. I said, my experience, is definitely one, out of the many lower cadres, in the healing hierarchy and spectrum. The rules that it follows, obviously isnt as strict, complex and rigid as the rules the higher cadres adhere to. OK let me give you an example of a healing in a somewhat higher cadre in the healing hierarchy and spectrum, the liver. The liver when cut or ruptured grows itself back. Now some ailments, diseases, deformities, etcetera require a miracle aside healing. What are you disputing about the "god of Nairaland"? The "god of Nairaland" is as a matter of fact a microcosm of God, the "god of Nairaland" sphere of influence is limited to Nairaland He is the "god of Nairaland" because of the authority, power, knowledge, presence (i.e. sees activities going on the site), intelligence, love and influence he has over Nairaland. Being "god" that he is, of course shares similarities with God but the distinctions between him and God becomes very apparent if/when analysed |
Michellekabod:You are asking me, pardon? Are you the original author of that post you pasted up there? If not, then no credit was given, that the post is someone's else intellectual property How would you feel if someone pasted your work online without acknowledging you as the original author? So is this behaviour overlooked in atheism? |
https://www.thepathoftruth.com/teachings/counterfeit-christianity.htm If you cant make your own cheese from milking other cows at different dairy farms then please excuse me from this copy and paste shenanigan. |
Ranchhoddas:Sir, without any thought, the healing would have already set off in motion, this because of a specific rule(s) The only thing my thought had to do, concerning the healing, was the knowledge or knowing that according to the rules, clotting will precede the healing start off. Remember the finger initially was profusely bleeding, I kept changing bandages, as it soon got soaked, then I remembered that if I am not hemophiliac, then in a short while, the blood would clot if I press down the cut with pressure to stop the flow. This did happen, so another rule was ready to be set off, in motion for healing to progress I remember, stabbed assault victims being tried to get remained calm, so not to let them think about the in a negative manner that will exacerbate things like keeping blood flowing from the stab wound. So yeah, thoughts would have its role or part to play in healings but then different thoughts to or for different situations |
budaatum:Any and all doing staged miracles or sell false hopes sneakingly promising anticipation a miracle(s) is a fraud It isnt just preachers of my faith only that stage miracles or sell false hopes when psyching people up to receive miracles, it's a general fradulent enterprise that cuts through What in its context, do you mean "... why the tinies"? budaatum:Whats with the interest in Tunde Bakare? budaatum maybe do or you dont know this, but they dont say or they never say, they do miracles by themselves. Miracles is a subject Ranchhoddas finds fascinating and is very intrigued about. In our brief discussions over miracles and elsewhere I've read his posts commenting on miracles, you get the sense, he is trying to grasp the surrealism of miracles, he is trying to finger and pin down what's the irrational thing that stimulates miracles. I recall typing the following at one of his comments: "Is that the only example? Ranchhoddas, check under the bonnet, to know how the genotype changed. miracles at Shiloh, is a mix of placebo effects, genuine, hoaxes and the dark. placebo effects wont necessarily affect the result outcome of a genotype test" I am not a medical personnel nor am I an expertise in genotype, but I do know medical personnel experts in knowledge and study of genotype, I mean to be honest, even me, from what I've research online on genotype, it is possible with science to change, however just like with IVF, not every IVF treatment is a success, hmm, this is where certain level of miracle comes in The thing about miracles, and there are quite a lot more, beyond the scope of this present discussion, to know about this, is that fundamentally healing and miracles, just like everything and everyone else in the world follow rules. I strongly believe that there is a healing and miracle hierarchy I'll give you a quick and short example. The other day, long time ago, maybe months or a year ago. Whilst out and about, going after my business, I somehow, accidentally cut one of my fingers. I wasnt too pleased because obviously, with the persistent bleeding, it became a nuisance and was slowing me down in effectively and efficiently carrying doing my work. The bleeding never stopped on time, still flowing that I had to wrap bands from in my car's first aid kit to stem the flowing blood. Suddenly I had this sense of comfort of mind, I thought to myself, as soon as the blood clots, the flowing blood will stop and knew that in a few days or weeks time the finger will heal. Without laboring the retelling the event, that's exactly what happened, the blood soon stopped after the clotting, and a few weeks after, the finger healed leaving no scar behind The above example, is definitely one, out of the many lower cadres, in the healing hierarchy and spectrum. The rules that it follows, obviously isnt as strict, complex and rigid as the rules the higher cadres adhere to. It actually is because of misunderstanding, misinterpretation and of being ill-informed that healing and/or miracles are confusingly being looked for, being expected and searched for. These instances often are done in wrong places, with wrong persons and at an inappropriate or wrong time. |
MhizAngel99:Did you not read the succint jesusjnr summation of you? I mean this: "It's okay you've unwittingly exposed your ignorance on spiritual matters. But it's OK to remain at your level for this matter far exceeds your physical scope." If you're honest, you'll admit, I answered all your questions, I also suggested you do searches on Religion search with "MuttleyLaff adversity" and another with "MuttleyLaff merisms" strings to learn about why and how natural disasters evolved You arent aware of fundamentals, the simplest elements & basics and because of that deficit, all I wrote went swoosh over your head. Now please dont mention my monicker again in relation to this thread, I beg you. Dont discuss or comment me again in relation to this thread too |
plaetton:I appreciate you recognising good bullshit when you see it. I serve it steaming and sizzling hot. I do soft and tough bullshits plaetton:budaatum's earlier pasted dictionary definition of religion corroborated and reinforced my point that he is oblivious of, which is, apart from yours and his atheism, which in itself, is a religion, stranger than fiction too, is that you and him, actually practise another religion, that hapens to be pure and true and which you'll both accept and agree is faultless and you both do it whilst being atheists. It's bizzare, isnt it? |
luvmijeje:I do remember I challenged you on on quite a few more other things than your slander against Paul. The original and first one concerning the disciples training and testing, you havent repeated your false accusations upon being back from your brief hiatus The subsequent one is where and when you went on a strawman mining and deflection, going on to, mix up the denying the existence of God, with delay of God intervening, mixing up a denial of the existence of God with Christ's assertion cry on the cross of purpose Delay does not be denial. Just because I am late in turning up for a scheduled, expected or arranged meeting, doesnt equate to I dont or no longer exist, because you havent seen sight of me You also misunderstood what Jesus uttered on the the cross on Calvary, misinterpreting it that Jesus was deserted by God I think there is another one but I dont remember what it is but sure can find out what it is, if I scroll through the threads Now you're coming up with this half thought through "no one came first, second nor third" false bullshit and comparing 1st Corinthians 12 : 28 (Paul's teaching) with Matthew 12 : 46 - 50 (Christ's teaching) What have you to say about Matthew 19:30, Matthew 20:16 and Mark 10:31? Hmm? Huh? Those are Jesus' words in white and red talking about first, he overstepped second and third, didnt talk about them but jumped to last. You see, that's why I always pity the lot and their coveted positions of Pastor, Bishop, Arcbishop or Prophet. The sheeple carry bible for them, the sheeple are subservient to them or the sheeple are with two knees on the ground, as they step out of their limousines. Now the thing is, the so called self styled pastors, bishops, arcbishops and/or prophets dont seem to grasp or acknowledge that there is going to be a position reverse, so they enjoy the trappings and bask in the glory of being pastors, bishops, arcbishops and/or prophets. Another thing, most dont what to know about, is you are not meant to be called or addressed as a Pastor, Bishop, Arcbishop or Prophet but hey, what do I know, someone will say, it's Paul's fault, that the blame rests with him. SMH. You should cover your face in shame for admitting this: "Believe it or not when I first told muttleylaff that the teaching of Paul differs from the teaching of Christ, I had no clue how. But in subsequent days I started receiving revelations" You had no clue, yet you were huffing, puffing and snorting all over the place as if you had. Do you realise how many you've mislead or let go off the rail because of your cluelessness? I could spit on you, if you were near me now. So you hadnt a clue but you were doing gra-gra-gra upon nothing. No wonder, I repeatedly called you olodo upon twenty, there is truth in that afterall. I just knew you're all mouth & noise. SMH I almost just tire for you, it's people like you, that turn the bible upside down because of misunderstanding and being ill-informed. I am still waiting for you to dare repeat your false accusation that Luke 9:1-5 wasnt about the disciples being on a training course & getting tested |
budaatum:Exactly my point, you just are only reinforcing it. Thats why I said I am not surprised. Give it a rest, simply let it go, certain things in life, you'll never know the answer for. So, what do you do? Nothing, except simply get on with it, move on and get on with the rest of life. PS: please budaatum all these bad energy and negativity should've been be left behind in 2018. Wipe the slate clean, start afresh, start all over |
budaatum:What part of, you need not have more evidence that what I've already given, dont you want to accept. You can take my word to the bank but I am not surprised you wont. PS I watched that your "giving false hope" miracle video last night. I was grieved & hurt though I previously knew those two chaps are scammers budaatum |
budaatum:Yeah, I saw it, and think it was on the "You Become An Atheist Due To Limited Knowledge" thread budaatum:"Amo ara wa, ti a ba rira wa" loosely translated means "we recognise each other when we bump into each other" I am not giving away trade secrets and insider knowledge, so not saying or giving out more than that |
LordReed:https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41AiRdYKeFL._SX300_.jpg |
budaatum:Let me whisper it to you, dont let the walls hear. That's no spring chicken, that is LordReed masquerading with his alter ego MhizAngel99 Won sope, ilu baje, ilu baje, ilu ti baje, but why wouldnt be country be bad, spoilt and corrupt, when we have supposedly right thinking people making excuses for bad behaviour. SMH. budaatum:What you up to? Are you trying to kee me wif laff? C'mon now, ariwo ko ni music now. The fundamentals, the simplest elements & basics, nada, he isnt aware of them What you called lecture, is confirmed "agbari ofo", meaning it's noise, nonsense and ingredients. He didnt teach, rather I did him. He got a handful of education and sign-postings from me. It actually is the other way round, he was thrashed like the village market square thief he is, for getting caught red handed with his hand stuck in the cookie jar PS: please this is a brand New Year Year and I havent got time for rederede, jatijati penkele mess |
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