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Celebrities › Re: Bolanle Ninalowo And His Wife Kiss To Celebrate Christmas by MuttleyLaff: 1:03pm On Dec 26, 2018
emeijeh:
Ginger ale was a soft drink (fanta) when we were kids.
So, tell us again, what does ale mean?
Check my i.e. brackets again and PS (i.e. postscript) for the low-down
Celebrities › Re: Bolanle Ninalowo And His Wife Kiss To Celebrate Christmas by MuttleyLaff:
praizblog:
Famous nollywod actor Bolanle Ninalowo who settles his recent beef with his wife in mood for Christmas kiss each other live on instagram as they celebrates Christmas together.

They share love up photos and video together. See more photos below
Whats with "ale" written on the baseball cap?

Doesnt "ale" mean concubine or mistress (i.e. lower status than wife, woman you're going out with) in the southwest?

Is he codely trying to send signals to someone else ni?

PS: Its actually 9ja, but the camera's selfie image taken was mirrored, flipped or turned 9ja into ale
Celebrities › Re: Biodun Okeowo Shares Sultry Photos To Celebrate Xmas by MuttleyLaff: 10:47pm On Dec 25, 2018
Hintona:
Her figure, the work of the corset maker undecided
So why deceive
Sha men r moved by wat they see
It's the other way round,
women are moved by what they hear and see
Case in point Eve

Men are moved by women. Period
The corset just improves her chances
Christianity Etc › Re: First Fruit Is A Scam,be Wiser In 2019 by MuttleyLaff: 9:51pm On Dec 25, 2018
babeosisi:
If you are one of those that foolishly give your January salary to your pastor, you have been sold a lie.
It is the invention of commercial.pastors about a decade ago
The Bible has no such teachings
Don't celebrate the birth of the savior December 25th and yet believe he needs your money to bless you.
That money is to satisfy your greedy pastor and has nothing to do with Christ
Study to show yourself approved
babeosisi:
They will soon emerge to question me.
I dare any body including any GO on naira land to show us where people gave their monetary salary as first fruit .
These scammers took an old testament outdated practice that had nothing to do with money,
twisted it around to scam the gullible for their greedy gains.
Where did Christ give or receive first fruit ?
In the new testament we are told that Christ is our first fruit
But you folks refuse to read your bibles
Goshen360:
God bless you....
until I read in your last post above, I was going to say,

Christ is our FIRST FRUIT says the word.
Truthchiz:
Hmmmm you are shaking tables. Dem go stone you Oo.
Well, I know of a particular church where January salaries of their church staff are not paid
but remitted straight to their GOs account.
You can imagine but little did the sheeples know that their oga has more than a hundred companies.
None of them knows. Only 1 man more than 100 companies, still collects the 1st salaries of the year from his staff members.
The more they have, the more they keep asking, and receiving.
babeosisi:
They are worse than robbers
The bible says godliness with contentment is great gain.They are neither
MuttleyLaff:
Seconded without demur.
Invest your money wisely, bless your mother, dad, your wife/husband, your family, your neighbour,
help the poor etcetera instead of giving to Oyedepo and Company first.

Painful truth is better than a pleasant lie
Shine your eyes
because pesin wey dey cry, dey see road ooo
Christianity Etc › Re: My Journey To Freethinking by MuttleyLaff: 9:05pm On Dec 25, 2018
budaatum:
As I said, I like my demons
To each his own

budaatum:
If I didn't, I'd cast them out.
It is easy for me!
I never for a moment doubted you like your demons but out of curiosity,
what of your Faustian contract for this symbiotic arrangement?
Christianity Etc › Re: Daddy Freeze: The Second Coming Of John The Baptist by MuttleyLaff:
jesusjnr:
Big up to you for the tone of your response
because I have an idea what you could be like when someone proverbially steps on your toes,
like yesterday when I was following the acrimonious conversation that ensued between you and muttleylaff,
I was just laughing uncontrollably, as you were about to give him a worse treatment that the serpent did to Adam and eve in the beginning, while his own koboko was busy doing press ups waiting for you,
so funny wow i'm still can't control my laughter up till now,
So I really didn't know what to expect from you, and if your response was harsh I would have understood, but it was as calm as a dove, so it tells me that you know my comment wasn't meant for evil.

I don't have a problem with you being different, for that I also am that some here see me as a sheep in wolves clothing as you'd already witnessed, so that's not my concern because I understand that people can interpret things wrongly.

But what I can never accept is that any sort of revelation that would make you lose your belief in Jesus as your Lord, that can never emanate from God and there's no way you can even insinuate that to me.

For I'm sure that you've had a lot about Mohammed, and how a lot of Christians are viewing him as a false prophet and so on, yet he Mohammed got the revelation of Jesus being a child of virgin.

Now imagine that, for that revelation given to Mohammed alone would have settled the issue for the people of Israel one and for all if they had it, because it absolutely tallied with the prophecy that was given concerning their messiah.

So there's no way I could dispute the fact that such a revelation given to Mohammed concerning Jesus came from God, because it more or less tallies with the account of the law and the prophets and also the gospels.

So I think you already get my point that the content of the revelation in that respect determines the source of it, but as l've said before you are entitled to your opinion.

Sorry that I was quite hard on you, I thought I had to be.

God be with you and keep you safe.
MuttleyLaff:
How did you get out?
You are raving the m word with your strawman mining and pathetic tactics.
Get the foxtrot uniform charlie kilo out of my way. Shoir
Thats how they behave, listen I will run you down, run you out of town,.
Just quit whilst your escape route is still open, there and exists
luvmijeje:
grin grin grin grin grin grin

This is just the beginning of me straightening you up. By the time I'm through with you, you will start seeing straight and right.
MuttleyLaff:
My "atori" cat o' nine tails whip is busy doing press-up, eager to get to work on you and whip some Godly sense into you.

Where are the proofs of all you've falsely accused me off?
None!
luvmijeje:
What did I accuse of that you didn't bring upon yourself. Didn't you say the disciples Christ sent out were on a training mission?

How was that an accusation?
"Luvmijeje you are confusing me oh really.
I can't really reconcile some things you say with some other things.

I mean one moment you would say you think i'm special, and I would be like wow,
i've not told you much about me and you're saying this, it could mean something good about you.

The next thing you would say something else
that would make me wonder if you were the same person that said the other thing...
"
- by jesusjnr(m): 9:54pm On Dec 24

luvmijeje and you, jesusjnr, are both cut from the same cloth
but do you know why luvmijeje is confusing, oh really, confusing to you, like you've admitted, as seen reproduced above
It is because she's nothing but a two-faced liar, a lurking green snake in the green grass, and an accuser/fault-finder of Paul

jesusjnr, my "atori" cat o' nine tails whip was busy doing press-up,
waiting eagerly to get to work on luvmijeje, to whip some Godly sense into her
but as you can see jesusjnr, noticed she clammed up and refused to repeat her ignorant statements and false accusations.

Watch jesusjnr, as I'll come down on her, raining like a ton of bricks
with the cat o' nine tails whip lashing Godly sense into her
if she dares to repeat her ill-considered plus ignorant statements and false accusations
Christianity Etc › Re: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by MuttleyLaff:
luvmijeje:
I'm not adverse to reading.
I'm adverse to reading bullshit.
And all what you wrote up there is bullshit.
It is no secret that it is difficult for you to pay attention to what you read

Shortened attention spans from years of indulging in frivolous day-dreaming
and watching too much television has messed up your concerntration

You cant hold it together for long and stay focused reading
You are basically lazy with the unwillingness to read and inability to focus beyond 12 lines of content.

luvmijeje:
You accuse me of something I've never come across.
Immediately I realise what you are accusing me of is not in the Bible, I no read am at all.
Why do you think, I am not surprised you couldnt and wouldnt read it all.
I know you for your short attention span and reading content at length to be challenging

Your shortened attention spans developed from years of indulging in frivolous day-dreaming & watching too much television
You are the type that only likes reading posts and books, just for entertainment, the pictures or memes.

You're FUBAR multi-layered ignorant to be asking me the following all below 8 questions:
1/ How does Luke 9:1-5 correlate with the church of today?
2/ Hmmmm! Training course?
Muttleylaff fear God o. The way you are twisting Christ instructions deh make me deh throw my bumbum for you.
3/ Where was it written in the Bible that they were on training course?
4/ So you still couldn't provide any scriptural references for your claim?
5/ Didn't you say the disciples Christ sent out were on a training mission?
6/ quote where it was stated in the Bible that they were on a training session.
7/ So why didn't Christ follow them out?
8/ If the the 12 and the 70 people Christ sent out were on training, how come Christ didn't follow them out?

I've been patient with you
and consistent in making correct answers and valid responses available to you when you wanted and each time asked

but you obviuosly have difficulties with taking in my answers and responses
and even if you did try, each and all, cause you indigestion
because my answers and responses are tough and nothing you've ever come across before

I told you I am your worst daymare and nightmare.
Mark this down, my speciality is dishing out tough bullshit.
I am bullshit, you are bullshit stain
.

luvmijeje:
Anyway, I've stated where I am and my direction going forward on this platform.
You're not standing on firm ground, so forget about where you state you are

No matter how many times a snake sheds its skin, it will always be a snake
so do not deceive yourself you arent a lurking snake or let anyone tell you otherwise.

You're a degenerate and the direction you're facing forward on this platform to, is destruction.

luvmijeje:
So your challenge is welcome.
I welcome you to a new era of cutting through every single of your bullshit.
"Ariwo ko ni music luvmijeje"
loosely translated means
"some people are like music, some speak the truth, others like you luvmijeje, are just noise"

You are a gone berserk bull in a china shop that's long overdue for castration

You think it's about or called challenge, when to me, it is called guarantee.
I guarantee you're going to be unrecognisable and very happy with your transformation after the collision course.

I dare you to repeat your ignorant statements and the false accusations again.
Christianity Etc › Re: Freedom From Religion Is The Best Thing Ever by MuttleyLaff:
luvmijeje:
MuttleyLaff, life is a journey.
There are times to crawl.
There are times to walk and there are times to fly.
I've had many moment that I've doubted the existence of God
I don't decry you for this,
I dont decry you for ever doubting the existence of God

I am not judging you or any other atheists for their religion of not believing in the existence of God
but when they curse the darkness, I light candles
My work is to light up candle to illuminate a darkness

luvmijeje:
David who wrote the Book of Psalm also had a moment of doubt.
What do I mean?

Psalm 18:9
"He bowed the heavens also, and came down: and darkness was under his feet."

In other version of the Bible, it was written God teared heavens also. But in Psalm 8:3
"When I consider your heavens,
the work of your fingers,
the moon and the stars
"

When you read Psalm 8 and Psalm 18, you will see a writer who's going through different phases of his life.
In Psalm 8, there was no opposition so his praises to God was sweet.
But in Psalm 18 when he saw opposition, his praises suddenly grew a kwashiokor legs.

Do you know Christ also doubted God in the midst of opposition. Matthew 26 :46
" And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?
that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
"

Do you also know that Abraham doubted God in the midst of opposition in Genesis 17:17
"Then Abraham fell upon his face, and laughed, and said in his heart,
Shall a child be born unto him that is an hundred years old? and shall Sarah, that is ninety years old, bear?
"


If these 3 men could doubt God in their moment of weakness, won't I be an hypocrite like you to call them names for not believing in God.
I thought I've seen it all but this one really takes the biscuit
I have never read nor come across a discombobulated post such as this before
I've always said that you are more confused than a chameleon that slipped into a bag of skittles

What the f word are you on? Huh?
Three simple and straightforward question but oh no, would she answer them.
No, she totally ignored the questions

luvmijeje, instead of ducking the questions, doing your usual strawman mining
and now this deflecting or going on a tangent, why not now attempt the 3 questions, now turned 4.
1/ Why is it alright not to believe in God or the existence of God?
2/ Why doesnt believing in God or the existence of God not make one a fool?
3/ What in the context of Psalm 14:1 and Psalm 53:1 is a fool?
4/ Did any out of these your 3 favourite men doubt the existence of God?

I will tell you why David was dispirited, if you were in David's shoes, you will be too
will tell you why Jesus Christ never in Matthew 26 :46 doubted God
and also will tell you why Abraham, in Genesis 17:17,
doubted God about the reality of him and his wife Sarah to still have the promised child together

I will only tell after you answer the original three questions, that's now become four
Christianity Etc › Re: Freedom From Religion Is The Best Thing Ever by MuttleyLaff:
Akin1212:
Although you didn't ask me, but you didnt need to ask me before I could answer.
Relax Akin1212
because it is providence that made our path cross.
This is a public discourse and it is a beautiful thing that anyone, can latch on to it, even without invite.

You're welcome to the "luvmijeje and MuttleyLaff" face off, another series that's about to unfold
Please respond to you cojoined with luvmijeje, so please brace yourself as you follow along

Akin1212:
1. Because up till date no single evidence has been provided for the existence of this God.
All we have are just claims. Claims asking us to believe and have faith.
If there's evidence, there's no need for faith or belief.
As the whole world is a painting on a canvas literally,
and hung up, just as like you'll do an oil painting, what more evidence of an Artist than this, about the existence of this God, do you want?

Akin1212:
2. A fool is not someone who is curious, critical and ask questions.
A fool is someone who just accepts whatever he is told without investigation.
This is a jejune opinion

Akin1212:
The simplest definition from the Encarta dictionary is - an unintelligent person.
Since I disconcur with your cherised Encarta dictionary's simplest definition that a fool is unintelligent person
why not you, in your own words, give an exhaustive definition of a fool and possibly with example(s).

Akin1212:
3. Those verses are not accurate references to go to for the definition of a fool.
I am sorry to be the one telling you this, but they're exact references to go to for the definition of a fool.

Akin1212:
Thanks, I just had the urge to answer these questions.
Pardon my interference.
"Where is the one who is wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age?
Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world?
"
- 1 Corinthians 1:20

"For the foolishness of God is wiser than man’s wisdom,
and the weakness of God is stronger than man’s strength.
"
- 1 Corinthians 1:25

"The natural man does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God.
For they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.
"
- 1 Corinthians 2:14

I understand, and I am quite sure it was an irresistible strong urge
Your answers are feeble, lacked depth & aplomb though

This is the tip of the iceberg, we havent started yet, we havent even scratched any surface yet.
Put some oomph Akin1212 in your next post, so we can blast this wide open and apart
Christianity Etc › Re: Freedom From Religion Is The Best Thing Ever by MuttleyLaff: 12:16am On Dec 25, 2018
luvmijeje:
As I said it's alright not to believe in God
It doesn't make you an evil nor a bad person neither does it make you a fool
.
During our last argument, I saw you agreeing with me on somethings and I'm like finally, Frank is not sticking to his ground.

Being on the opposite doesn't mean we shouldn't agree on something.
Now, if you keep up on not arguing blindly, I may consider you. grin grin grin grin

Abeg, leave me o jare.
1/ Why is it alright not to believe in God or the existence of God?
2/ Why doesnt believing in God or the existence of God not make one a fool?
3/ What in the context of Psalm 14:1 and Psalm 53:1 is a fool?
Christianity Etc › Re: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by MuttleyLaff: 12:15am On Dec 25, 2018
petra1:
I Thought you both are on same side
Happy New Year in Advance petra1+family
and best wishes to Gombs+family too

What binds us all together is greater that what seemingly has us on different sides
Christianity Etc › Re: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by MuttleyLaff:
luvmijeje:
1. What's Ekelesia?
Do you want the abridged or unabridged version of what's ekklesia?
You luvmijeje, who cant stay reading for a long time, is asking what is ekklesia
You are a glutton for punishment indeed sha. Enjoy!

• Adam & Eve in Eden, fast forward to Matthew 16:18 and Acts 2:41
(i.e. Eve out of Adam fast forward to where and when ekklēsia's founded out from Christ's teachings & promise)
• Roman Emperors Constantine and Licinius' Edict of Milan in AD 313 which established a policy of religious freedom for all.
(i.e. a proclamation that permanently legalised Christianity in the Roman Empire)
• Christianity becoming the official religion of the Roman Empire.
• the sell-out and/or shady deal(s)(e.g. "Church" and State collaboration under Constantine)
• The regularisation and formation of the Roman Catholic Church (i.e. RCC)
• Roman Empire's adoption of RCC as "official" church during Constantine's reign
• The supremacy of the Roman bishop (i.e. the papacy) created/aided with the support of the Roman emperors (i.e. Constantine and his successors)
• Constantine calling the First Council of Nicaea in AD 325, in an attempt to unify Christianity when doctrinal disputes arose
(e.g. Arianism, doctrines named after Arius, a teacher in the early 4th century A.D) and presiding over this first ecumenical church council
• the exploits of the apostles, all charged up in their faith, preaching the Gospel and like Jesus willing to die horrible deaths because of it.
• The apostolic period (i.e. including The "patristic writings'') - about contemporaries of the apostles like Linus, mentioned in 2 Timothy 4:21, and who became the bishop of Rome after Peter was martyred
• the ante-Nicene (i.e. before Nicaea) period - about the likes of Ignatius and his "ekklesia katholicos" phrase, he was a disciple of the apostle John
• the post-Nicene "church" period - about the likes of Augustine, bishop of Hippo, who is often called the father of the [Roman Catholic] Church because of his great work in Church doctrine
• The term "Roman Catholic" defined by Emperor Theodosius on February 27th, 380 in the Theodosian Code.
In that document, he referred to those who hold to the "religion which was delivered to the Romans by the divine Apostle Peter"
as "Roman Catholic Christians" and gave them the official sanction of the empire
• the first canon (i.e. Muratorian Canon), the progressive acceptance of other books as canonical and have them make up the 66 books of the bible
• The fall of the Roman Empire in AD 476 and the rise of the Roman Catholic Church
• the Pontifex Maximus; the highest office in the state religion of ancient Rome and at the collapse of the Roman Empire, RCC popes taking on this title that had previously belonged to the Roman emperors
• the tragic compromise of believers with the introduction of pagan religions and assimilation of paganism influences
(i.e. the Romanization and paganization of Christianity and the "Christianization" of pagan beliefs)
• Apostolic succession and Pope Gregory in AD 590, upon assuming office denying any responsibility or support for any ambition to the throne of Peter
• "Church" and State fully merged as the Holy Roman Empire
• Subsequent popes exercising authority over kings and emperors, taking on imperial powers along with ecclesiastical authority (e.g. St Leo III)
• the Filioque clause/Filioque controversy and/or The Great Schism
• John Wycliffe of England, John Huss of Czechoslovakia, and John of Wessel in Germany
• Protestant Reformation; division between the Catholic Church and Protestantism over interpretation of Biblical Testaments.
• The Edict of Worms (i.e. the Holy Roman Empire, Charles V and the Pope banning all writings of Martin Luther and labelling him a heretic and enemy of the state) etc
• Calvinism (i.e. named after French reformer and theologian John Calvin, he was Martin Luther's successor during the Protestant Reformation)
• The Edict of Nantes, The Edict of Restitution.
• King Henry VIII taking over jurisdiction of the Church, after kicking RCC out of England.
• Various political and ulterior motives
(e.g. translators forbidden by King James' official order from replacing the Greek word "ekklesia" with "congregation" (i.e. the true interpretation)
Compare Psalms 22:22 with Hebrews 2:12 for more details on this, bibles translated to fit the politics or traditions of men etc)
• Evangelicalism, Revivalism, Pentecostalism, Christian science, the Charismatic Movement, Mormonism/the Latter Day Saint movement, Word of Faith movement etc
• Institutional/organised church(es); licensed or incorporated as businesses/charities etc (i.e. to gain non-profit tax-exempt status)
• Church(es) under the jurisdiction of man (e.g. unincorporated charities/church(es), unregistered/registered church(es) etc)
• details of corrupted teachings or doctrines.
• Etcetera, etcetera



1st century AD - ekklēsia founded on the teachings of Jesus
2nd century AD - Christians already denouncing teachings seen as heresies, e.g Gnosticism, Montanism etc
4th century AD - ekklēsia transformed, church evolves, finally legalized and then promoted by Emperors Constantine and Theodosius I as the state church of the Roman Empire
11th century AD - Church within the Roman Empire excommunicated each other - West (i.e. Rome) and the East (i.e. Constantinople, Jerusalem, Antioch, and Alexandria) officially excluded each other
16th century AD - Lutheran Church was founded by Martin Luther
16th century AD - Protestant Reformation
16th century AD - The Presbyterian denomination began by John Knox who was dissatisfied with Anglicanism
16th century AD - Anglicanism (i.e. Church of England) founded by King Henry VIII
17th century AD - The Baptist church launched by John Smyth in Amsterdam, Holland.
18th century AD - The Methodist church launched by John and Charles Wesley in England
18th century AD - The Salvation Army launched by William Booth, who quit the Anglicans, and then the Methodists to set up his own version of Christianity.
19th century AD - The Jehovah's Witness Church developed by Charles Russell.
19th century AD - The Christian Scientist religion began by Mrs. Mary Baker Eddy, centered around an outright denial of Original Sin and its effects
19th century AD - Ballinger Booth, the son of William Booth, quit The Salvation Army and started his own church
19th century AD to date - The Seventh-Day Adventists, Apostolic Faith, Foursquare Apostolic Church, K&C, CAC, CCC, RCCG, MFM, Winners Chapel, KICC, BLW/Christ Embassy, SCOAN,
and various other Pentecostal Churches etc are among the hundreds of new churches founded by men within the past 200 years or so.

If you want more info to the above,
then the below link has additional unabridged version of what's ekklesia.
https://www.nairaland.com/4263508/church-vs-congregation-congregation-yahshua#63812199
by MuttleyLaff: 6:00am On Jan 02

luvmijeje:
2. Then why are you playing ignorant?
Please dont again ever mistake me quizzing you to mean I am playing ignorant.
If you're in the habit of dismissing who questions you, you will never grow.
Peradventure, such cross your way, to sharpen you.

luvmijeje:
Then what's all this crap about you not being vested in organized religion.
I dont know.
I dont know why you should associate me organised religion

luvmijeje:
3. It's about tithing in the church
Good
and I am well glad you acknowleged that

luvmijeje:
and I ask is there Church in Christ's era?
What is the connection

luvmijeje:
Is my question out of line?
Yes, you put a duck out of row, to shoot at

luvmijeje:
4. And I asked you does what Christ said nullify his instructions to his 12 and 70 disciples?
Then you started fumbling.
Ekklesia is non existent during the 12 and 70 disciples.
Ekklesia was a building site, it was work in progress in Christ's earthly era

Maybe I was fumbling, because I knew you are as delicate as egg shell
Look at all these simple bible 001 theological/scriptural things you havent the foggiest about

luvmijeje:
5. Your question is irrelevant because he didn't instruct the disciples to go out to start building churches and start collecting tithe and offerings.
1/ What was my question, on what circumstance or premise did my question come from?
2/ Where did I state that the training and test had to do building brick & mortar building or about collecting tithes & offerrings?

luvmijeje:
6. I do 100%. Was Paul God? Was he not a man like you?
I admire your honesty and like you for admitting your disdain for Paul.
This is deja vu for me because "Was Paul God? Was he not a man like you?", many years ago, were the exact words and more I said about Paul.

I hated Paul so much with a passion then, I felt he was full of himself,
felt he is a certified and confirmed misogynist

Back then I also used to think, who the hell does Paul think he is,
galavanting upanda, going all over the place and like laying down the law(s).

Ah luvmijeje, believe me when I say, I never liked Paul, never enjoyed reading his epistles.
I had total contempt and a lot more for Paul
but then, that soon changed, after I found out that, Paul, apart from being a maverick, also had a highly idiosyncratic personality.
and most importantly in addition had a peculiar style of writing.
You luvmijeje, being a writer yourself, will understand and know about what I mean by, authors and their style of writing

Recall, even Peter, on record, said Paul's letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort.

luvmijeje:
7. In due time, I'll get to point out how his teachings is against Christ teachings.
I wouldnt want to miss reading it for the world
Please mention me when/if you do get to.

Remember, I've been here, I was here about Paul, before you.
I've been there, done that, even have the t-shirts bought
You arent the first and wont be the last to misunderstand Paul, his messages and teachings in his letters.

luvmijeje:
8. In Matthew 24:1-2 was there a mention of cathedral?
"Ah o ma seun"
loosely means, oh my, what a pity.
You put me in pains, in severe pains with asking such a gaffe question like this luvmijeje.
I am sorry luvmijeje, I am teary eyes about this and just need to get my composure back

luvmijeje:
9. I'm not suggesting, I'm saying the authority now being excersing by the church was gotten from the teaching of Paul who gave the church the leeway to set up their doctrines.
The division among the body of christ can be trace to the encouragement of religion by Paul.
No oooo! "Agbedo", loosely translated means "God forbid"
Ah luvmijeje, ah, you alone, concocting and manufacturing all these lies about Paul!

luvmijeje, wait a sec, look at your hands.
Are all your fingers equal? No of course they arent
We dont mind that because what unites the fingers is greater than what is division among them
Do you really think God wasnt aware there'll be divisions in ekklesia?

I was just about to write how Paul demostrated, persuaded and encouraged true and pure religion that is faultless
but changed my mind to do it because there's no point, as Paul's bible recorded exemplary character already frees him from blame.

luvmijeje:
10. See 9.
Right from the beginning in Eden, man has never want to take ownership of blame.
He would rather point the finger at another person or someone else, looking for a scapegoat

Forgetting that, for every time, your finger is pointed at another person or Paul, three points back at you.

Perhaps by divine design, the three fingers are telling you,
to check yourself out, three times, over the matter you're pointing out a person about.

Dont pick and find a close-mindness fault, but rather
1/ use time positively.
- Find out, what happened that brought the matter/crisis/problem up

2/ take out bad energy and/or negativity.
- Find out how the matter/crisis/problem should have properly be handled/managed

3/ take ownership.
Find out how to rightfully correct the matter/crisis/problem

Obligatory ecclesiastical monitised tithe giving wouldnt have seen the light of the day, if the above guidelines were followed
cc Mobilia, BluntBoy
Christianity Etc › Re: My Journey To Freethinking by MuttleyLaff: 11:26pm On Dec 24, 2018
budaatum:
Many demons, One buda.
Na wa ooo. Sorry ooo.
"Ko easy", loosely translated means, "it aint easy for you"
"O ku eru, o ku ajo," loosely translated means, "steady with the load, uneasy lies the head that wears a crown"

budaatum:
What are demons, muttley?
budaatum, its a very great question you asked

Funnily enough, it's only being recently, a few months ago, I was thinking to myself about this question you've asked too.
I had a flurry of thoughts, like what's demons? What's demon in the context of the bible? Why

I havent come to a conclusion yet but managed to figure out that though the word demons is a "replace word"
demons are phenomena that have influence, power, control, jurisdiction, mobility and authority characteristics
They can be formless or have forms, they can be visible, hardly visible or not be visible
I was trying to see the usage in the bible in relation to ailments of all sorts etcetera too
I found out again, whilst still going on the study of the word demons, that man, is his own worst enemy
Christianity Etc › Re: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by MuttleyLaff: 7:22pm On Dec 24, 2018
luvmijeje:
Then if you are not personally vested why did you quote me.
My first question when I jump on this this thread was to ask was there a church in the era of Christ?
1/ Are you not personally vested in ekklesia, the church?
2/ I quoted you to extract more information in order to understand what you're on about,
to find out more about where you're coming from and where you're heading with the remark.
Is anything wrong in doing that?
3/ What is the title of this thread?
4/ Did you not know that Christ said He will build His church on the rock before you asked the question when you jumped on the thread?
5/ Was tithing approved or not by Christ during and/or for a different dispensation that was under a different arrangement?
6/ Have you bones or not, to pick with Paul?
7/ What according to you are Paul's sin(s)? What are your grievances with Paul?
8/ Do you know of any cathedrals Paul built?
9/ Are you suggesting that Paul encouraged and persuaded believers to give or pay tithes?
10/ Was the obligatory ecclesiastical monitised tithe giving, an idea formulated and instituted by any of the apostles or Paul?

You're a weakling, and because of that, dont have the nerve to reply to the 10 above questions.
For you, it is easier to ignore the 10 above questions and its all because you're yellow bellied

luvmijeje:
[s]I thought you were bold enough to see it through to the end
but in the middle of the argument you grew a cold feet like the coward that you are[/s].
[img]https://christiandorr.files./2016/04/im-watching-you.jpg[/img]
You bit more than you can chew, you bought market.

I am watching you, and like I earlier said,
the moment you again step out of line with a big mouth and crooked post,
I'll come down on you, like a hammer.
cc Mobilia, BluntBoy
Education › Re: Professor Sophie Oluwole Is Dead (First Nigerian Female Phd Holder In Philosophy by MuttleyLaff:
[img]https://i./PSuX.gif[/img]
Oh no!
Ka sun re Mama
RIP
cc vaxx budaatum
Christianity Etc › Re: Dishonest And Ignorant Paxonel. Calling Him Out. by MuttleyLaff: 5:56pm On Dec 24, 2018
Oh dear. You've been banned from posting here by the frisky antispam bot Martinez19
PS like a phoenix bird that rises from the ashes of fire is Martinez39
Christianity Etc › Re: Spiritual Sense. by MuttleyLaff: 5:34pm On Dec 24, 2018
ichuka:
Lol
Is milk not FOOD?
C'mon ichuka stop this now. Must everything be a jest
Would you feed or give a 2 month old baby boiled white yam with isi ewu or nkwobi?
Christianity Etc › Re: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by MuttleyLaff: 5:22pm On Dec 24, 2018
luvmijeje:
The link should be a refresher course for you.
Honestly this demon have your time today.
Why did blunt say I asked valid questions?

[s]I know you are use to confusing your ways out of issue but this time you have met someone bigger than you[/s].
The question is not why did BluntBoy say you asked "valid" questions
but should be why those "valid" questions at MuttleyLaff?

What did MuttleyLaff say, what did I do or post to deserve being asked your "valid" questions luvmijeje?
If MuttleyLaff doesnt have a dog in organised religion race, why are you asking him about physical brick and mortar church buildings?
Wetin concern fish with raincoat?

https://www.nairaland.com/4906753/daddy-freeze-liar-tithing-very/20#74072986
The above link is the actual start of our interaction
Notice how I started meticulously, layer by layer, peeling information out from you,
but it was after my 3rd interaction with you, that you suddenly lost the plot and with obscenities, went berserk.
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism Is A Religion by MuttleyLaff:
Seun:
Whether atheism is a religion or not, the fact is that there is no objective evidence for the existence of God, therefore it makes sense to refrain from believing in any God that people preach to you about until they provide you with some objective evidence that the God actually exists.
Atheism is a religion but I don't believe in it

Religion takes different shape and form, has different passions, interest, rituals etcetera.
For some, sports, like football or hockey is a religion.
For others some, fashion too is a religion

Christianity, Hinduism, Islam, Buddhism, New Age, Scientology, Paganism, TAF etcetera too are religions
however there is only one true and pure religion, that is faultless. So let's call a spade, a spade

Back on track, what is the list, example and range of objective evidence for the existence of God or for God actually exists you're asking for?
Christianity Etc › Re: My Journey To Freethinking by MuttleyLaff: 4:06pm On Dec 24, 2018
budaatum:
No. I know God didn't manufacture buda, mummy and daddy did, the physical structure at least, and I manufactured the buda mind inside that structure myself.

I like my legions!
You wrote:
"There is only one single doing buda though"

I misinterpreted what you meant,
and so incorrectly gave what you just responded to.

Did you with that remark above in inverted commas say, there's is only one demon in you, doing you?
Christianity Etc › Re: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by MuttleyLaff: 3:47pm On Dec 24, 2018
luvmijeje:
Where was it stated that they were on a training course?

Remember the reason I quoted the 12 and the 70 disciples being sent out was to show that the so called followers of Christ who called themselves Christians have diverted from his teachings.

Christ never sent out any man to build church. He sent them out to propagate the coming Kingdom. He didn't send out to start collecting tithe and offering. He told them to go out empty handed.

Then you came in with your bullshit about training. You came in to confuse yourself and not me.
https://www.nairaland.com/4906753/daddy-freeze-liar-tithing-very/20#74075692

You have a hundred plus one problems
and because amnesia is one of them, I have taken the liberty of pasting the above link to refreshen your memory to part of the beginning of the chain of posts of you digging yourself in a hole.

You were haphazard, incoherent, inconsistent, contradictory and just being literally all over the place,
lost and pathetically chasing your tail doing strawman minings. SMH.

You need deliverance to be safe from your demons inside you.
Christianity Etc › Re: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by MuttleyLaff: 3:12pm On Dec 24, 2018
luvmijeje:
According to you

So let me rephrase my question. If the the 12 and the 70 people Christ sent out were on training, how come Christ didn't follow them out?
Are you suggesting the disciples weren't on training course
and being tested?
What did the 70 say to Jesus after completing
and upon returning back from the training course and test?

I repeat, do you at all, luvmijeje,
remember the centurion who said to Jesus,
you don't have to follow me because of blah blah blah?

Again do you see what you are doing to yourself?
Christianity Etc › Re: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by MuttleyLaff: 2:52pm On Dec 24, 2018
luvmijeje:
So why didn't Christ follow them out?
Follow who out to where?
Why does Christ have or need to follow them out?

Do you at all luvmijeje,
remember the centurion who said to Jesus, you don't have to follow me because of blah de blah de blah?
Do you see what you are doing to yourself?
Christianity Etc › Re: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by MuttleyLaff: 2:36pm On Dec 24, 2018
luvmijeje:
For you to to have quoted Ezekiel, then it shouldn't take you anything to quote where it was stated in the Bible that they were on a training session.
Olodo rapata ni woman to
You this woman is dense.

I quoted a different version of Ezekiel, I knew you wouldn't know of or be familiar with.

Before that, I plastered different versions of Jesus saying, following me, I'll teach you to be fishers of men
I reminded you that disciple means follower or pupil of a teacher.

What more madam, were you expecting?
To spoon-fed you?
To hold you by the hand and lead you?
I am biting my tongue to stop me calling you unprintable names.
Get off your high horse already.

luvmijeje:
You know it deep down in your mind that it's true.
I wasn't brought up that way
and wasn't taught that way by Christ.
Christianity Etc › Re: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by MuttleyLaff: 2:27pm On Dec 24, 2018
luvmijeje:
There's nothing o. He just couldn't take it that a woman more smarter than him just whip his ass. They are many on this platform.
You 're a trickster,
you'll try every trick in the bag,
even the sexist one. SMH.
Christianity Etc › Re: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by MuttleyLaff: 2:23pm On Dec 24, 2018
BluntBoy:
MuttleyLaff and Luvmijeje, you people should just let go.

I have a feeling that there is more to your quarrels than meets the eye. Are you in love with each other grin
She doesn't remember or know me from Adam
so we couldn't be in love with other
Besides I am already in love with someone else.

luvmijeje:
He knew nothing about the Bible and I'm here to teach him.
In your dreams or maybe another life
because as for this one, I'll teach your wayward self
Christianity Etc › Re: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by MuttleyLaff: 1:15pm On Dec 24, 2018
frosbel2:
You are asking her to go and study a book which your ancestors for thousands upon thousand of years knew nothing of , yet they were more noble, honest and upright than all your rascal pastors and men of God put together
This is a jejune opinion
and irresponsible statement to make.

frosbel2:
The bible is not inerrant, it is full of myths and fables and some truth , but cannot be said to be the word of God in its entirety. Get out of your religions delusion and do something beneficial for mankind.
Find and show me a book that is not inerrant.

Have you not heard it said,
that person wey dey cry, dey still see road?

You eat the hay and spit out the sticks,
so stop giving luvmijeje and others excuses to not read and study the bible.

You don't know what true, pure and faultless religion is.
If you do and did, you wouldn't carelessly talk about religion as luvmijeje and you just ignorantly did.

You think it's sports, hockey, football, fashion etcetera we are talking of here when talking of pure and true religion, the religion that is faultless in God's sight. Huh?

You and luvmijeje, better get your acts right and together before time runs out for both of youse.

You both are more confused than a chameleon found in a bag of skittles
Christianity Etc › Re: What Was Jesus Writing With His Finger On The Ground? by MuttleyLaff: 12:11pm On Dec 24, 2018
jesusjnr:
Thanks for your concerted attempt at helping me out, but Jesus listing down the sins of all the clergy and crowd on the floor, like seriously?

I'm sorry but that doesn't even sound close, as the Jesus I know would never think of something like that, needless say doing it.

But thanks again for your contribution
C'mon, why couldnt Jesus think of something like that but then not do it?

Jesus could have thought like Mobilia suggested but not do it.
I too have heard a preacher on a satellite channel posit this Mobilia version
Christianity Etc › Re: Dishonest And Ignorant Paxonel. Calling Him Out. by MuttleyLaff: 11:42am On Dec 24, 2018
frank317:
I like ur response...makes me wonder why u are still a Christian.
U must be a different Christian. Go through some threads on this forum since last week on this section and u will see how atheists have been battling with Christians day and night telling them these things don't exist.

I am not attributing witchcraft beliefs to Christianity, Christians are

https://www.nairaland.com/4906214/there-no-such-things-witchcraft

The link above is one of many... I think Christians seriously need to bring themselves together instead of making a mockery of their God with this confusion...
People like paxonel are a rare breed.
There are few and far apart to bump into

Martinez19:
He is a christianity romancer.
No he isn't.
If Christians were to properly read the Bible,
there'll be less Christians and less association with organised religion also popularly known as Christianity
Christianity Etc › Re: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by MuttleyLaff: 11:00am On Dec 24, 2018
luvmijeje:
What did I accuse of that you didn't bring upon yourself.
Didn't you say the disciples Christ sent out were on a training mission?

How was that an accusation?
Is it my fault you are infoxicated?
Is it my fault that thoroughly reading through content is a challenge for you?
Is it my fault now, that you don't know that the disciples were tested whilst on a training mission, first, the 12 to the Jews and afterwards the 70, to Jews and Gentiles alike?
Is it my fault you fail to accept and agree that Jesus said, follow me, I'll teach you to be fishers of men?

You are full of bullshit, you need having an enema.
Christianity Etc › Re: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by MuttleyLaff:
luvmijeje:
grin grin grin grin grin grin

This is just the beginning of me straightening you up. By the time I'm through with you, you will start seeing straight and right.
My "atori" cat o' nine tails whip is busy doing press-up, eager to get to work on you and whip some Godly sense into you.

Where are the proofs of all you've falsely accused me off?
None!
Christianity Etc › Re: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by MuttleyLaff: 10:31am On Dec 24, 2018
luvmijeje:
I hope you know the book of Revelation is a vision or a higher form of dream.
So all what you saw there is not going to happen as it is written.

You can now thank me for the lesson.
How did you get out?
You are raving the m word with your strawman mining and pathetic tactics.
Get the foxtrot uniform charlie kilo out of my way. Shoir
Thats how they behave, listen I will run you down, run you out of town,.
Just quit whilst your escape route is still open, there and exists

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