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MrPresident1:
Stop misquoting Scriptures

Proverbs 19:14
House and riches are the inheritance of fathers:
and a prudent wife is from the Lord

And a foolish woman is from the Lord too.

Ecclesiastes 7:26
And I find more bitter than death the woman, whose heart is snares and nets, and her hands as bands:
whoso pleaseth God shall escape from her; but the sinner shall be taken by her.

Stop doing a strawman

Proverbs 19:14 and/or Ecclesiastes 7:26, whichever it may be, as in having a prudent wife or foolish woman, is dependent on your choice

adetayo234:
Please, don't allow spiritual arrogance and pride to control you.
Read Genesis 24:14

Why dont you paste Genesis 24:14 here and let's self examine it together?
Why cant you aim playing the ball, instead of aiming to stomp on and kicking the foot?

The power of choice resides with man.
Judges 14:2-3 is one of the many examples of this

adetayo234:
Please read that Genesis 24:14 well, and you will understand better

I reiterate, God stopped choosing spouses for man after the well-known "The woman whom You gave to be with me..." infamous line.
The onus, since after then, is on the man, through proxy or not, (e.g. Eliezer, on behalf of Abraham, and for Isaac)
to find a wife, a good thing, and receive favor from God.

Adam's case and the other time, of God telling Hosea, to take on an unwelcome spouse,
are when and where God has physically chosen spouse for Man and outrightly told man to take a spouse

Did God not choose that Adam and Eve not eat of the fruit of the knowledge of Good and Evil?

God does not override choices we make or take.
Please read Judges 14:2-3 well, and you will understand better

Anas09:
Oh he tried on Jobs account.
He accused God of bribing Job with material wealth, a good, a loving family and a tight security without which Job will be like any other joe, sinning and cussing.

Anas09, you dont see the bigger picture in that narrative.
You didnt get the drift of that Job account, in relation to Satan.

Satan, was just as like Job too, basking in the glory of God's warmth, light, royal favour and hand of protection
but where Job, when the crunch came, admirably was steadfast in his belief and unwavering,
Satan fell, gave in and suddenly gave way at the slightest hint and sign of a God withdrawal.

You're taken by surprise, to just know,
that the entire Job account is a cryptic message of telling how sin got to be and was found in Satan

Originakalokalo:
If you don't lean on your own understanding... and in all your ways you acknowledge him,

He will direct your path.

All you need to do is ask for his direction, and he will give it unto you.

People still ask....and he still responds.

adetayo234:
God chose Rebecca for Isaac.
Your comment is a complete falsehood.
Read Genesis 24:14

When all is said and done, it's you at the end of it all, that makes the choice
God help you, that you find a wife, find a good thing and obtain favour from God

Notice, Eliezer, on behalf of Abraham, and for Isaac, asked for God's direction etcetera
and when the decision time came for action, Eliezer made a choice.
cc ethankareem, Originakalokalo adetayo234

MrPresident1:
You are a criminal for this nonsense you just spouted.

God controls everything. He is the one that links man and woman, he is the one that makes them marry each other.
God is in absolute control of the universe.

It is criminal you disregard that, a horse can be led to water, but you cant make it drink

Apart from Adam's case and the other time, of God telling Hosea, to take on an unwelcome spouse,
when and where else has God chosen spouses for Man?

budaatum:
buda cannot "trust Satan", muttley,

You dont trust God, you dont trust Satan.
What and/or who do you trust?

budaatum:
nor can I agree that a shameless Satan would admit guilt.
Or have you not heard Satan lies?

Satan tells lies, because that is what Satan has become and turned into
Satan will never explicitly tell you Satan is telling truth

budaatum:
I'm certain Satan wouldn't be ignorant either, screaming from the rooftop like a hooligan. Devious, is a hint.

People usually dont give Satan Satan's due credit for what Satan knows.

Satan is in the knows, knows a lot and that why Satan not screaming from the rooftop like a hooligan, is an admission of guilt,
also confirms, there isnt any God foul play concerning Satan caught with the hand in the cookie jar.

Originakalokalo:
The Bible says that the heart of men is DESPERATELY WICKED who can know it?
Regardless of appearance, it is very important to let God choose one's spouse.
you don't know who wants to marry you...God knows him or her.
It was God that brought Eve to Adam...
God is still in the business of doing the same IF YOU LET HIM.

ethankareem, God stopped choosing spouses for man after the well-known "The woman whom You gave to be with me..." infamous line.
The onus, since after then, is on the man, through proxy or not, to find a wife, a good thing, and receive favor from God.

budaatum:
How can we trust that Satan's account is not a denial that was suppressed?

Budaatum , you can trust that Satan's account would be an admission of guilt,
otherwise Satan would have from the nearest rooftop cried foul play long time ago.

I doubt Satan ever harboured a thought that God wasnt/isn't just and fair
I doubt Satan will ever say God cannot be trusted

hustla:
I am just curious

How come we did not listen to or havent come across Satan's account and circumstances of why he was chased away from heaven?
Who knows?

You havent come across Satan's account because there is nothing to deny
and also that's why Satan has never refuted the account nor call into question why he was chased away from heaven

kellytuns:
Is the real name of God yahweh or jehova?

Neither is the real name of God

orunto27:
Yahweh is God's Name in Greek.
Jehova is God's Name in Latin.
God is God in English.
YHWH in Hebrew and
Olorun in Yoruba.
Please don't be yoked with OtemAtum at all on this

God is yet to reveal to anyone what His real name is

God, doesn't in Yoruba semantically mean Olorun

Ranchhoddas:
I can see MuttleyLaff viewing!
Baba you self dey follow amebo matters?

[img]https://s2/images/MuttleyHilarious34d26efd4dfccb03.gif[/img]
No, nah your silhouette I chase enter

Anas09:
Are you now saying Budaatum is a devil? lolzzzz

No, I am not saying budaatum is a devil
but that budaatum, like vaxx, references the bible
yet darkchild64 doesn't choose to assume budaatum is a christian based on him referencing, quoting or mentioning Bible verses

joseph1013:
Again, you are gunning for a fight where none exists. He asks for clarification. The guy has provided clarification using a query. Why are you angry?

I permit you to continue running wild with your imagination

joseph1013:
If you read what darkchild64 wrote, you would see that he made the assumption based on the bible quotation vaxx made, and he ASKED that vaxx clear the air if he is wrong.

I can't see what he has done wrong. Or are you just gunning for a fight at all cost?

"where do i mentioned i am a christain here."
- vaxx: 6:14pm On Nov 14

The above inverted commas is what vaxx wrote replying back to darkchild64

When I quote Koran, quote etcetera, it doesn't mean I am a Muslim or what not

Some mistake giving correction to spoiling for a fight.

darkchild64:
Fine so ur point is that vaxx is not a Christian ?
No probs

My point is you cant just like that conclude he is a christian basing it on him making Bible references or mentions

MuttleyLaff:
Show how exactly he upheld teachings in the bible
and I'll show you budaatum, the devil and/or et al have done and/or do the same

darkchild64:
vaxx:
At least , i agree God can and not God is. They are two different statement and the idea of treating them the same is erroneous. My understanding of God differ from the bible, therefore it will be wrong to give it bible interpretation. I sighted that the water is inanimate and likewise a process too.i gave a chemical demonstration of how the water become a process. In simple term, water Is moving and changing states . From gas--liquid-solid and continually dissolving other substances into itself, then shedding those substances as it moves through plants or land or people (this is how plants get many nutrients, and also how we get oxygen to our intenal organs and glucose to muscles, etc). Water is processional just like living being. So if water the inanimate object is like this , then water is very like human beings and all other entities on the planet.

Even the bible says God created man in his own image, but living and non living things are all testament of God.

Just because someone makes a reference or mention of bible verse(s) doesnt mean the person is a christian, doesnt mean the person necessarily upholds or support that particular christian value or not

Paul in his epistles, quotes pagan or unbeliever philosophers

darkchild64:
Yeah,but what I meant is that,non believers do not uphold the teachings in the bible like he did

Show how exactly he upheld teachings in the bible
and I'll show you budaatum, the devil and/or et al have done and/or do the same

darkchild64:
So you are a Christian after all

vaxx:
where do i mentioned i am a christain here.

darkchild64:
Well u quoted the bible so I chose to assume u are a christian ...

The devil quotes(d) the bible, and I havent seen anyone because of that assume the devil is a christian

darkchild64:
... you don't often see non christians quoting the bible, clear me if I'm wrong

budaatum often quotes the bible

tuzeriouz:
Christ lied when he said "it is finished".
With this breaking news, I think it just starting

"it is finished" is relative

Tinnytony24:
Religion has been the major problem of this world of ours.....
Which one be miracle money again?

The pastors shirt says it all!

Wrong religion, false religion, religion that is not pure and faultless
has been the major problem of this world of ours

budaatum:
I beg to differ. It's not religion that makes people lick shoes, it's ignorance.

I agree without demur

HigherEd:
Chai and this man was a potential vc.
Already climbing to the top.
Did they sack the woman too?

TheVictorious:
Wow. I'm shocked to hear this

The devil is not fighting churches, why, if it's easier joining churches.

Seems it's really true that a leopard doesnt change its spots.
It just changes what tree it sleeps in or who it sleeps with

As far as I am concerned, if he's done this at Unilag before,
then, it's a matter of time that he'll do it at Covenant University.

budaatum:
You do!? Read it? A very interesting book.
Read any others of his?

Too many books to read and catch up with

budaatum:
It's difficult, muttley, especially when you get stuck on the size of a letter 'g'.

I see it your way, but you're unable to see it the bible designated way
You're religiously have a strong feeling of dislike for using the capital letter G in the designated God word.

... by the way, like I told a fellow poster, the other day,
I am a buddha right now, increasingly knowing more by the day and not a future buddha
Hover or Click here to see more
Being and/or becoming a buddha, a knower, can be now and doesnt have to be in the future sense.

budaatum:
Been reading Civilization in Transition, Volume 10 of the Collected Works of C.G.Jung,
and trying not to argue with MuttleyLaff.

I have Civilization in Transition, Volume 10 of the Collected Works of C.G.Jung

You intelligently argue and intelligently discuss
but I rather you do the latter with me as opposed the former,
because the former is about exchange of ignorance(s) whilst the latter is about sharing knowledge

budaatum:
We agreed that the inherent ability is something all humans have,
and that's the limit of my knowledge.
I am not one to fill in ignorance with things cooked up in the head!
Nor do I claim to know it all.

I admire your admission of the limit of your knowledge.
Perhaps, as regards to the existence of God, there is a limit of your knowledge you're Ok with to admit too.
It's astonishing, here is you being one not to fill in ignorance with things cooked up in the head
and one who doesnt claim to know it all but yet is adamant God doesnt exist

budaatum:
I became aware at seven years old after ma beat reading into me.

You see, your unawareness didnt mean the ability to acquire, apply and develop knowledge wasnt existing before you became aware of it.
Same applies to the existence of God budaatum.

budaatum:
You are being disingenuous!

Trumped-up charge!
Unfounded accusation.
You voluntarily offered me a window of opportunity to explore

budaatum:
There is corroborating evidence, some which you even provided, which allows me to be inclined to take your word for it in this case, and none for the case fod God or gods.
Besides, you know from experience that the above does not imply that I take your word it all the time!

Remember you ended the entire inverted commas with "... without regard to evidence"

budaatum:
I repeat:
We agreed that the inherent ability is something all humans have, and that's the limit of my knowledge.
I am not one to fill in ignorance with things cooked up in the head!
Nor do I claim to know it all.

You are so sure of non existence God
You easily cook up in your head that there is no God
You fill in your ignorance of God with things cooked up in your head that God doesnt exist

budaatum:
First, I became aware of pa hallowed by a lamp with his head stuck in what I latter understood were books. I cannot say how old I was at the time, but my observation was made from inside my cot which I lost use of at exactly 2 years, 2 months, and 19 days into my existence. So let's say by 3 years old.

2 years, 2 months, and 19 days yeah?
You got more jokes?

budaatum:
Ma beating the contents of a book it into me at age 7, made me realise I could learn. Prior to that, I was "a for apple, b for ball, c for cat, dog, elephant, fish, sheep", at which point a three pronged koboko landed on my head followed by "is that sheep"? With finger pointing to what seemed to me to be a sheep, since where I was coming from goats did not exist. It was at this point, koboko landing on my head a few more times and tears streaming down my face, that I was eventually clued in to the fact that those squiggly things under the picture were relevant, and after a few more landings of the koboko I could read.

Let's break it very very down
Your first pee, your first cry, your first yawn, your first body stretch, your first sleep, your first smile etcetera who implanted those abilities?

budaatum:
I am being very sincere!
The use in the Bible does not convey my understanding!

Lets stick with the bible way and using the bible designations first.
When done, we can afterwards do it your way, if you're still interested

budaatum:
You are not God, Yahweh, which does not exist, or at least, is irrelevant, as far as I am concerned.
And Christ taught me this when he surrogates you whom I see for some god, Yahweh God, to be specific, an idol and graven that is claimed to be in heaven, both of which I see not and have no evidence for.

You're intelligently arguing that God doesnt exist and at least is irrelevant.
1/ Dont know that God is Christ, and Christ is God?
2/ Please tell, how Yahweh God is graven
3/ Dont you know that God is a Spirit, and you can not ordinarily see God with physical eyes?
4/ You're opaqued to ample evidences for/of God, arent you?

budaatum:
One is a god, if one realises one is one, which I chose to do.

Please explain in toto, the intricacies of one being a god, according to how Jesus, in John 10:34, re-echoed what, David, in the spirit mentioned in Psalm 82:6
John 10:34-37 has the full gist

budaatum:
I may not bow down and worship you, god Muttley,
since I am bade not to create and bow down to graven images and idols,
but hopefully the regard and respect I show you,
if I so happen to show any, suffices.

"²⁵As Peter entered his home, Cornelius fell at his feet and worshiped him.
²⁶But Peter pulled him up and said,
“Stand up! I’m a human being just like you!"
- Acts 10:25-26

You do know that, John 10:34, that re-echoed what, David, in the spirit mentioned in Psalm 82:6,
has nothing to do with graven images or idols, dont you? Hmm?

budaatum:
Please get the meaning of what I say,
instead of trying to make me say what you want me to mean.

Please get the meaning that,
it has nothing to do with me trying to make you say what I want you to mean
but a lot and all, to do with what the bible says and truthfully means

budaatum:
Yes. Except good cooks like Jesus cook it up in the heads of others too,
but most don't seem to comprehend it.

Jesus, in John 10:34, re-echoed what, David, in the spirit mentioned in Psalm 82:6
so what exactly was ccoked in the heads of others too
and what is it, that most dont seem to comprehend?

HigherEd:
CCTV captured him while he was having sex with a Married colleague in his office.

Yeepa!
The devil is not fighting churches, why, if it's easier joining churches.

budaatum:
Yes muttley, I have paid a huge portion of every penny I ever owned and most of my time alive acquiring the ability you mention.
My parents started it off by paying for my education, and I continued it by investing in books and learning to reason.

You're kicking off target.
Have you paid anyone for the inherent ability, the inborn ability?

budaatum:
You just sound way too smart to be that stupid!

Has nothing to do with stupidity.
If I can take your claim or word to the bank, why wouldnt I.
It'll be the best smart and wise thing to do

budaatum:
I believe nothing of the sort! I know it as a fact!
I afterall have sufficient evidence that I am able to acquire, have acquired, and developed in knowledge over a long period.
It would be silly considering, to continue to believe what I know for a fact.

Pardon my choice of word
So from or at what age did you start to know you have the ability to acquire, apply and develop knowledge then?

budaatum:
No. I am not inclined to accept you observation that God exists, since I have no corroborating evidence to support what you say you observe.
The best I can do is say, you say so.

"It may very well be a figment of your imagination that buda is intelligent,
but from what I know of you, I am inclined to accept your observation that it most likely isn't a figment of your imagination.
Do not hesitate to let me know if you have observed buda wrongly please, in the figmentation of your imagination perhaps, without regard to evidence"
- budaatum at 5:00am

You earlier, didnt need corroborating evidence to support what I say I observe about you, but now changing tune, you fascinatingly do.
Interesting.

budaatum:
I still insist that the ability is developed through learning.
I did start from "gogo gaga" at age 0, you know!

Before learning, what brought on the ability and/or where did the ability come from?
What's the brain behind this ability phenomenon?

budaatum:
Learning, muttley. You can state this question however you like and I'd still give you the same answer, I think.

What instilled the learning desire?
Who injected it, where did learning quest come from?

budaatum:
We have done this before, and I asked you to know that my choice is intentional and that I never mistake the two. I mean 'god' here as that exactly what I mean despite how they appear in the texts.

Be sincere now and stick to how they are used in the bible.
Genesis 3:5, used God, and gods, is used in Psalm 82:6 or John 10:34

budaatum:
The bav, buda authorised version. A translation based on buda's understanding. No copies available, I'm afraid.

No wonder

budaatum:
Wrong! The girl in the video does not seem to have anything resembling "same properties to any observer", yet you claim her assertion is false, and that she is deluded, and on drugs - and specifically because her properties do not correspond to those observed by you!

The fact that someone is being subjective has no relevance to truth that is objective. When a tree falls in a forest, it falls, whether seen or not. And there is no way that I could possibly convince a Ferrari salesperson to give me a spanking brand new red Ferrari in exchange for the imaginary million pounds in my bank account, yet, at least. One can cook up anything in one's own head and call it truth, but if the observables do not correspond to the cooked up, deluded, is the right response.
Do note however, that since we can't seem to agree on what the properties of gods are,
we cannot objectively prove whether gods exist or not, so we cook up things in our heads and call it 'objective truth', falsely.

In the style of Psalm 82:6 or John 10:34, dont you know you are gods?

budaatum:
A gift or a present is an item given to someone without the expectation of payment or anything in return.

Have you paid anyone for your intellect, the ability to think, to acquire and apply knowledge?

budaatum:
I repeat, whatever intellectual abilities or intelligence I may have were not gifted to me.

The capacity/ability is a gift

budaatum:
I worked really hard to acquire the little intelligence I may seem to have.
And the ability itself, I take your word that it is inherent in all humans

What did you pay or give in return for the inherent ability?
If nothing, then suffice to say, it is a gift then

budaatum:
An ability or capacity, however, is not exactly a skill.
I am very certain I have the ability to fly an aeroplane and perform open heart surgery,
but that would not make you claim buda can fly an aeroplane or perform open heart surgery.
You most certainly most likely would not allow me to perform either on you!
In order to be able to fly an aeroplane or perform open heart surgery, buda would have to do some work to be able to,
just as buda has had to work to acquire the skill that makes you say buda has the particular skill being discussed.

I never said an ability or capacity is exacty a skill
How are you so sure, I most certainly, most likely would not allow you fly an aeroplane and/or perform open heart surgery?

budaatum:
No! Buda does not believe buda is intelligent.

False modesty!

budaatum:
You believe buda is intelligent!
buda, herself, hopes she is somewhat intelligent

You intelligently argue and intelligently discuss

budaatum:
and constantly works at becoming intelligent.

becoming more intelligent.
We, afterall, are work in progress, hopefully getting better by the day.
It ain't over till it's over

budaatum:
To be specific, my ability to acquire and develop knowledge, is not a figment of the imagination of my mind.
It is a fact that one can acquire knowledge if one works to acquire it.
"Seek, and you shall find" is a fact.
So the answer to the first part of your question is, no, it is not a figment of my imagination.

Exactly, the emboldened

budaatum:
As to applying it, I can only take your word that I have applied it and therefore assume that I am able to apply it therefore, and thank you immensely for stating that I do.
It may very well be a figment of your imagination that buda is intelligent,
but from what I know of you, I am inclined to accept your observation that it most likely isn't a figment of your imagination.
Do not hesitate to let me know if you have observed buda wrongly please, in the figmentation of your imagination perhaps, without regard to evidence.

You believe you have the ability to acquire, apply and develop knowledge,.
You are not saying it is a figment of your imagination that you have the ability to acquire, apply and develop knowledge.

From what you know of me, do you remain inclined to accept my observation that God exists
and that it most likely isn't a figment of an imagination, without regard to empirical or fantastic evidence

budaatum:
Interesting, and tricky, this one is.
I would repeat you and say "Everyone has intellectual/mental capacity".
I am simply one of those "everyones".
I responded in detail above.
In short form, the source is all the work I claim to have done.

I am pleased to read you agreeing and accepting that everyone has intellectual/mental capacity

You didnt give a valid answer though
All the work you claim to have done, is product of your ability,
and is not the source of your ability
Kini orisun agbara, agbari ati abinibi yi gbogbo, ti oun demonstrate kaakiri?
Where's the ability from, who and/or what gave you the ability?

budaatum:
Yes, I am most certain of my "ability to acquire, apply and develop knowledge".
You yourself say I have such abilities and I place much weight on your observation.
If I were one to talk through my ass you most likely would have said so, instead of stating otherwise.
As someone once said, "you say so". I merely take your word for it.

Saying you intelligently argue and intelligently discuss, covers the whole spectrum

budaatum:
As to the "origination" too, yes.
I have done a lot of work to acquire the ability to apply and develop the knowledge that I do exhibit and which you seem to observe.

Let me rephrase the question
Are you 100% certain of the origination source of your ability to acquire, apply and develop knowledge?
Whats behind your ability to acquire, apply and develop knowledge?

budaatum:
This is so off topic that I am inclined to kindly request that you start a thread for it please.
However, and just so I am not accused of avoidance, a shift in understanding occurred between the Genesis understanding of god, and that of Psalm and John.

Please dont go off the wrong foot.
Very importantly recognise that, Genesis used "God", whilst Psalm and John, used "gods"

budaatum:
In the former, an entity lorded it over others,
and the latter was recognition of how gods are created, and by whom.
It is specifically the latter that informs my "gods are figments of the imagination created by those in who's minds they are created".

Are you deliberately trying to be obfuscated and difficult to follow.

budaatum:
Gen 3:5 says,
"one day you shall know that gods are figments of the imagination created by human beings".
A certain Jesus Christ took this to it's logical conclusion and is now bowed down to and worshipped instead of emulated, bar all the miracles, literally, that is.

Gen 3:5 didnt say that inverted commas comment
What kind of bible is that read and deduced from?

budaatum:
And even that, much more than he did (raising the dead, healing the sick) do we now do, just as he said we would.
I stand as a testimony to this fact.

Whats the point you're making with this comment?

budaatum:
I still think this is worthy of a thread please.
The fact that you ask it is like you read my mind, and I wonder how you connected this to the topic at hand.
It is very relevant despite being off topic!

God moves in mysterious ways
Respect the God and god(s) syntaxes though

vaxx:
This is the issue with you guys, why is my assertion baseless?
Is it because it does not comprehend with your current knowledge.
And why dont you criticised it instead of the adjective word(baseless and imaginary )
It make more sense and logical if what i said is probe rather than simply flip.

Yes every true is subjective except what we want to make objective and that will be term as reality which is based on consensus agreement. The truth is always perceived by a subject, experienced by a subject. The subject, that is a human, is like a tint on the glass - the tint colors everything one looks at. This tint is comprised of one’s previous experiences, thoughts, ideas, beliefs, personality traits, emotional states, all the characteristics that comprise a person.

As long as a person is a person, objective perception is not an option unless what will unanimously agree to.

budaatum:
I disagree!
Every truth is not subjective!
One can't cook up nonsense in their head and claim it is the truth!

Here, for instance, is one person's cooked up in the head truth.

h t tps://youtu.be/JFZT_o8oYZQ

Would you agree that her 'truth' is the truth?

Her truth is, what in the industry, is called the alternative fact

You'll be surprised what nonsense some cook in their heads, claiming there is no God
It is not only foolhardy to believe that to be the truth but it's also unwise

Sometimes people dont want to face fact, know and discover the truth
so what do they do in a situation like that
They create a fiction and invent a different narrative, just like the way the lady in that video did.

Budaatum, what do you think of the Anthony Ekundayo Lennon aka "African born again" furore?
What kind of truth is his?

budaatum:
To begin with, I do not have a "gift" of intelligence.

I am not going to make a big thing of what gift means, what it is and what isnt
The dictionary, is there, to see whether intelligence, is a gift or not
so ignore "gift", as the questions are valid and incontrovertible even without use of gift

budaatum:
Whatever intelligence that I may have has been developed through hard work done by myself, so it's not a 'gift'.
As is written, "seek, and you shall find", and I am not one to allow the figments of my own imagination to blind me from learning, or, seeking wisdom, as is said

"If any of you lacks wisdom, you should ask God,
who gives generously to all without finding fault,
and it will be given to you."
- James 1:5

"For Yahweh gives wisdom.
Out of his mouth comes knowledge and understanding."
- Proverbs 2:6

budaatum, wisdom, that you seek and finding, is a gift

budaatum:
I hope you see how this makes your questions invalid, though for the third one, omitting the word "gift", I would claim that I am certain of the origin of my intelligence because you yourself testify to my having some level of intelligence, and have pointed to examples.
If I am not somewhat intelligent, according to you, you wouldn't claim I am, I think.

Everyone has intellectual/mental capacity budaatum.
and yes budaatum, I testfied that you intellectually argue and also intellectually discuss

1/ So, you believe, you are intelligient
& you're certain of the origin of your intelligence because of the words & examples I made that you intelligently argue and intelligently discuss?
2/ Is your ability to acquire, apply and develop knowledge a figment of the imagination in your mind?
3/ Whats the source of your ability to acquire, apply and develop knowledge?
4/ Are you 100% certain of the origination of your ability to acquire, apply and develop knowledge?
5/ Whats the distinction between God, used in Genesis 3:5 and gods, used in Psalm 82:6 or John 10:34?

joseph1013:
I don't like endless rhetoric. You said you've done extensive research and found out there's 100% certainty that there's no God. All I ask for is the evidence of your certainty that's above board. You'll be contributing greatly to our body of knowledge if you do.

Too much to ask?

budaatum:
Hopefully, you now see vaxx's point. I said that I am 100% certain.
I never said you need to be or that I wanted to convince you, and yet here you are asking me to provide you with evidence.
Is that not where the argument got to, which you disagreed with, and which made vaxx mention me?

Sorry, but I do not wish at this moment to contribute to anyone's knowledge. There are already numerous threads to that end, and they made an ounce of difference, one of them would already have done so. But if you are interested in a very interesting thread on the topic, please see this comprehensive and rather convincing one on the topic from a dedicated individual. When you get to the end, I might be more willing to show you that all gods only exist as figments of the imagination in the minds of those in whom they are created. Outside the minds, gods do not exist!

budaatum, you intellectually argue and also intellectually discuss

An example of the former, is this:
"I started with 0% and have found nothing whatsoever to make me veer from that despite an extensive search for gods" post

An example of the latter, is this:
your very beautiful, very deep and profound post which I just had to slam a like stamp on.

1/ Is your gift of intelligence a figment of the imagination in your mind?
2/ Whats the source of your gift of intelligence?
3/ Are you 100% certain of the origination of your gift of intelligence?

HigherEd:
Yes farm has always been there. My lecturer was in charge of the place before he got fired.

Why did he get fired?