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PastorDavidAwuj:I hope you saw where I typed that the Bible does not anywhere in it, condemn gambling, betting, casting lots or the lottery but that, if the gambling, betting, casting lots or the lottery is about trying to get rich quick, then it is an absolute NO, NO. I also typed that there is a time and place for everything. The occasional have a flutter, is OK but that's if it can be afforded and not be done, at the expense of someone's else good welfare and wellbeing |
donnie:Before then |
PastorDavidAwuj:I would say, we all take take risky action(s) every moment and every day, in the hope of a desired result and so like I earlier put it: there is a time and place for everything. Gambling, casting lots etcetera is not a bad thing if it's done within accepted bounds |
johnydon22:It is a morally permissible action I dont see why not, is why |
"23And they appointed two, Joseph called Barsabas, who was surnamed Justus, and Matthias. 24And they prayed, and said, Thou, Lord, which knowest the hearts of all men, shew whether of these two thou hast chosen, 25That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place. 26And they gave forth their lots; and the lot fell upon Matthias; and he was numbered with the eleven apostles." - Acts 1:23-26 Acts 1:23-26 above, is just one of the many narratives about casting of lots in the bible The Bible does not anywhere in it, condemn gambling, betting, casting lots or the lottery If the gambling, betting, casting lots or the lottery is about trying to get rich quick, then it is an absolute NO, NO. There is a time and place for everything. The occasional have a flutter, is OK but that's if it can be afforded and not be done, at the expense of someone's else good welfare and wellbeing |
GistersNG:Not dead |
PastorDavidAwuj:I concur without any demur with the emboldened Perfectbeing:PastorDavidAwuj, it might interest you to know that the disciples, including Nicodemus were born again before Jesus' death and resurrection. paxonel:Born again, as in the context it is used in John 3:1-7, and in an outright or oversimplified manner, means "born from above" paxonel:Whilst the mention of "born again" seems incidental, it actually is serious, important and worthwhile to know and understand paxonel, you are born again and if you permit me, I can prove to you, that you are |
SMH, just look at how this seemingly knowledgeable guy is getting educated |
servercodes001:Somebody it seems, is having a rough day and busy doing some serious strawman mining That is not an idol. It is a statue of Siddhartha Gautama, known as The Buddha and who happened to be a spiritual teacher in the northern region of India |
servercodes001:The real mumu is you and those other two, that liked your ignorant comment That is a picture of the statue of Siddhartha Gautama, known as The Buddha, who happened to be a spiritual teacher in the northern region of India. The three of you are the only ones who dont know that Buddhists are atheists. They don't believe in God and gods, don't worship a God or god. |
Amagite:Its a buddha statue not even a god. Seems romantising with atheism |
TalkTalkTwins:It is only some, lazy and indoctrinated Far-To-See (i.e. Pharisees) and Sad-To-See (i.e. Sadducees) somewhere, looking for lesser praying effort, that believes that speaking in tongues, especially with using the voice and/or vocal cords, is praying in some mysterious heavenly language Nothing more than, lazy persons, way of looking for easier ways to pray things and so "speaking in tongue as a prayer" is used as a crutch Are any aware that, Paul downplays the importance of speaking in tongues He, Paul, on record, even said, do not speak in tongues without an interpreter This advice and guideline, is openly disregarded during gathering worships and/or prayer sessions For Jews demand miraculous signs (i.e. ask for signs) and Greeks ask for wisdom (i.e. philiosophy) - 1 Corinthians 1:22 So you see that speaking in tongues is a sign, not for believers, but for unbelievers. Prophecy, however, is for the benefit of believers, not unbelievers. - 1 Corinthians 14:22 For all the three recorded times, speaking in other tongues, occurred in the bible, it is visibly noted that, it happened each time, for the benefit of unbelieving Jews Also for any interested parties, that might have been misinformed, it is a well documented truth, as seen in 1 Corinthians 14:22 above that speaking in tongues is not for believers, rather it is used as a sign for unbelievers (i.e. 1 Corinthians 1:22a) "13And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty." - Revelation 16:13-14 Rev 16:13-14, is real and is here already The end time deception of the demonic spirit, mentioned in Rev 16:13-14, symbolised as three unclean spirits that looked like frogs is here And how do frogs catch their prey? Yes, using tongues to snare believers with their false speaking in tongues deception, working miracles with false tongues If anyone speaks in a tongue, it should be by two or at the most three, and each in turn, and one must interpret; - 1 Corinthians 14:27 "For if we practice sin willfully after having received the accurate knowledge of the truth, there is no longer any sacrifice for sins left - Heb. 10:26 Paul, also was against corporate speaking in tongues without intrepretation, An example what he was against, will be, like that practice, when & where everybody, are prompted by pastors/worship leaders to, at the same time, start speaking in tongues, but pride, egotism, arrogance, ignorance and bigotry prevents most from having this Heb. 10:26 knowledge of the truth registered in them. SMH |
It is because of ignorance, biblical illiteracy and the strong attraction of filthy lucre. |
budaatum:To untrained eyes they look like contradictions but really at all aren't budaatum |
adetayo234:"That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose." - Genesis 6:2 "And he took six hundred chosen chariots, and all the chariots of Egypt, and captains over every one of them." - Exodus 14:7 "Saul chose him three thousand men of Israel; whereof two thousand were with Saul in Michmash and in mount Bethel, and a thousand were with Jonathan in Gibeah of Benjamin: and the rest of the people he sent every man to his tent." - 1 Samuel 13:2 "In that day, saith the LORD of hosts, will I take thee, O Zerubbabel, my servant, the son of Shealtiel, saith the LORD, and will make thee as a signet: for I have chosen thee, saith the LORD of hosts." - Haggai 2:23 adetayo234 "yakach" is not choose I keep telling you, the word used in the Genesis 24:44 original text is "yakach" and not the other word "bachar" as in examples like Genesis 6:2, Exodus 14:7, Haggai 2:23, 1 Samuel 13:2 etc above, which means choose but will you calm down, climb down from your high horse and listen, no, because egotism, ignorance, arrogance and your bigotry wouldnt permit you to. |
adetayo234:The question isnt about a place with evidence that God chose a wife for Isaac or being a personal problem but does God choose a spouse for you 1/ Are you married? 2/ Did God choose your spouse for you? 3/ How many others, bar Hosea and Joseph, has God chosen a spouse for? 4/ What would have happened, if Eliezer didnt make that prayer request, that God should show him Eliezer, whom God adjudges of, as wife for Isaac? |
vaxx:Chinese pictogram or pictograph Its Chinese equivalent of hieroglyph |
budaatum:Sorry, again, whats the honey's brand name and is it organic? - I, years ago, consciously stopped using sugar. budaatum would you know where I can get or buy unpasteurized sauerkraut from? I tried making my own years ago, but it turned out a fiasco I make my own home-made chilli oil and yogurt budaatum:Truth will always be truth, regardless of lack of understanding, disbelief or ignorance The truth will always be the truth, even if no one believes it. budaatum buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction and understanding. Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding. budaatum:You would have knocked me down with a feather if I hadnt known you have total freedom to be you, to be yourself. |
adetayo234:Do you know why, for you, there is nothing to answer? You're unable to give answers because you're scared of the answers and that's why, you find it hard to answer the questions. The answers, will reveal that, it is our decision(s), on who we marry, the power of choice resides with you. I have explained this, many times, on this thread, that God does not choose your spouse for you but God, when invited, certainly orchestrates, to assist and help, like He did with Eliezer and I, to choose a spouse adetayo234:I dont blame you for being afraid of the answers, as you know, if you should dare answer those five questions, you wouldnt have a leg to stand on. Hosea was commanded by God to marry Gomer and the angel of God told Joseph not to be afraid to marry Mary. Those are the other two and only times God explicitly made a spouse choice for anyone |
adetayo234:Why don't you simply answer the five questions. and who does the power of choice reside with? |
Anas09:Just like Eliezer did, so I prayed too God, about my partner. My complete specifications and all, were met when I found and set eyes on my partner, so I readily made the choice. The point is, God showed me whom He adjudged and/or appointed is good for me, it was left to me to choose or not but the power of choice resided with me I decide, I decided what choice action to make |
adetayo234:Dont misquote me please I wrote: If you invite God to show who He approves of, He will oblige you If you invite God to show who He decides is good for you, He will oblige you. God, just like the Holy Spirit, doesnt force Himself or choices on anyone The choice is yours to make. Now the thread's question is: Does God Choose A Spouse For You? and I'll add, 1/ Are you married? 2/ Did God choose your spouse for you? 3/ How many others, bar Hosea and Joseph, has God chosen a spouse for? 4/ What would have happened, if Eliezer didnt make that prayer request, that God should show him, whom God adjudges of, as wife for Isaac? |
budaatum:Is this organic honey? What brand is it? budaatum:I doubt you've considered they had, what is akin to, spiritual/glorified bodies and protective "white garment" covering budaatum:You, rather no anaesthesia then? On another level, you, as a parent, remember what it means wanting to get Junior or Princess to sleep and know why you're trying, to get Junior or Princess to sleep There is nothing mindless, in those past times, with you, trying to make lil Junior or Princess sleep then. Recognition, acceptance and appreciation made "you" claim: "she's mine! she's mine!" budaatum:The fascinating thing I have observed a long time ago, is seeing what is happening and unfolding right before the eyes, starting right from there in the Garden God (i.e. Elohim), in Genesis 1, is just plainly and ordinarily God (i.e. Elohim) but in Genesis 2, starting from verse 4, God (i.e. Elohim) switched to being conjoined with Lord (i.e. Yahweh) to be Lord God (i.e. Yahweh Elohim), This seems to exemplify being assertive, prepotent, laying ownership claim, stamped authority and setting boundaries Genesis 3:1-5, shows Eve and the serpent using the proper noun God (i.e. Elohim) but then at Genesis 3:7, when the proverbial hit the fan, the Lord God (i.e. Yahweh Elohim) re-emerged to give them their just deserts It was justice tempered with mercy, kindness, love and hope Genesis 4, is about the Lord, but at Genesis 4:25, the proper noun God (i.e. Elohim) nostalgically gets a mention, at the birth of Seth, after the tragedy of Abel's death From Genesis 5 onwards, it's God (i.e. Elohim) or Lord (i.e. Yahweh) and the occassional Lord God (i.e. Yahweh Elohim) random mention at crucial moments or during campaigns You know what's really funny? Human parents too mellow when their kids come of age budaatum:Another no brainer Wisdom has to do with decision making, making and arriving at right conclusions budaatum Example, knowledge is to know tomato is a fruit, whereas wisdom is to know not to put tomato in a fruit bowl or fruit salad budaatum:No, Satan wasnt speaking in Proverbs 1. It is Wisdom speaking in Proverbs 1 Remember you asked: who's call do you disregard, God's or Satan's? at which, I replied: This is a no brainer. Of course, Satan's. budaatum:The Talmud, is the Muslim's Hadith equivalent. The Talmud, is not just unrealiable but also isnt God inspired. The "God inspired" phrase is going to drive a bee up your bonnet. Hahaha ha The Pharisees & other religious leaders used the Talmund to hold people in bondage and because of that, Jesus was often at loggerheads with them over it Just like the Muslim's Hadith, the Talmund too has its full share of the ridiculous, ludicrous and nonsensicals That bit in it, about Solomon cutting a deal with the devil and capturing a demon is an example of such This is a snapshot review of Steven Weitzman's Solomon: The Lure of Wisdom Weitzman's concern is not so much in facts, After all, he pointed out that what is universally known about George Washington – that he chopped down a cherry tree – is not true. That Solomon: The Lure of Wisdom book is hustle mode activated plus plus. budaatum:Don't try to understand everything budaatum. Sometimes, everything is not at a go, meant to be understood, there are things that are accepted, just as they are. As time matures, full understanding sets. |
Anas09:The query here is: Does God Choose A Spouse For You? and I'll add, how many others, bar Hosea and Joseph, has God chosen a spouse for? |
adetayo234:You're missing an important point. What would have happened, if Eliezer didnt make that prayer request, that God should show him whom He adjudges of as wife for Isaac? adetayo234:If you invite God to show who He approves of, He will oblige you If you invite God to show who He decides is good for you, He will oblige you. God, just like the Holy Spirit, doesnt force Himself or choices on anyone The choice is yours to make. adetayo234:How many others, bar Hosea and Joseph, has God chosen a wife for? |
adetayo234:The original word used is "yakach" It means, to decide, to adjudge adetayo234:How many others, bar Hosea and Joseph, has God chosen a wife for? adetayo234:Can you not see that God was invited to show who He approved of? Can you not understand that God was invited to show who He decided is good for Isaac? It doesnt take away the fact that the power of choice resided with Eliezer, who is going to take or make decision. What would have happened if Eliezer didnt make that prayer request? Nauttyprof:"Never speak for God when He never spoke. The statement you quoted shows Adam just finding excuses for not taking responsibility for his actions" - by Nauttyprof(m): 4:24pm If that statement like you said today at 4:24pm, shows Adam, just finding excuses for not taking responsibility for his actions then other Adams can start finding their wives themselves and stop mouthing off to God Afterall, he, who then finds a wife, finds what is good and receives favor from the LORD This isnt rocket science nor needing to be over spiritualised Nauttyprof:Though I have already mentioned the power of choice, you still keep strawmanning. so let's cut to the chase, you are saying emphatically that God chooses spouses for us. Right? |
adetayo234:"let her be the one you have The original word used in the original text is "approved" and not "chosen' Eliezer, Abraham's servant, finds a wife for Isaac, so finds a good thing and obtains favor from the Lord. Upon finding, the choice is Eliezer's to make, the power of choice resides with Eliezer. The power of choice to decide who Isaac's spouse is was bestowed on Eliezer. Nothing is more compelling than the power of choice. With the power of choice, you can choose good over evil and right over wrong God does not choose spouses for us, you make the choice. Your choice shows who you truly and really are, and this is why we are advised to choose right Nauttyprof:"He who finds a wife finds what is good and receives favor from the LORD." - Proverbs 18:22 After Adam, it's only Hosea and Joseph, that God had explicitly told about spouses Nauttyprof:Strawmanning |
adetayo234:"2When he returned, he said to his father and mother, “I have seen a Philistine woman in Timnah; now get her for me as my wife.” 3His father and mother replied, “Isn’t there an acceptable woman among your relatives or among all our people? Must you go to the uncircumcised Philistines to get a wife?” But Samson said to his father, “Get her for me. She’s the right one for me.” - Judges 14:2-3 I suggested you paste Genesis 24:14 here and to let's self examine it together, to see, if the power of choice resided or not, with Eliezer but since you're eager on Judges 14:2-3, and have humbly asked to see it pasted here, I have obliged you |
budaatum:Dont trust everything you see budaatum, even salt looks like sugar budaatum:budaatum, humans were never mindless slaves and humans didnt need pants. budaatum:Wisdom is the principal thing, therefore get wisdom. budaatum:To be forewarned, is to be forearmed budaatum:Imagine clicking on this coming next black dot hoping and expecting another web page to load. Wisdom will laugh at you, when you make a prat of yourself trying to open the next web page clicking on the black dot budaatum:This is a no brainer. Of course, Satan's. |
asuustrike1:What happens then when money fails? asuustrike1:"And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat," - Genesis 3:6 asuustrike1:ethankareem, if you're genuine, a version of Matthew 1:19-20, significantly Matthew 1:20 can be reenacted, to say or do something to remove the doubts and fears of her about you |
Geenosko: MrPresident1:Geenosko, Adam and Eve voluntarily gave up what control they had on earth to the devil God is still and very much in control, please dont get things twisted Geenosko. Geenosko:God was in the same place He always is, when He was assaulted, brutalised, ridiculed and lastly put to death on trumped-up charges God gave the earth to man and it's like when you allocate a room in your house for your son or daughter Just because your son's or daughter's room is messy doesnt mean you've lost control of the house or home It doesnt mean you are about, when the bedroom wall was defaced or when the room got dirty MuttleyLaff: MrPresident1:Yes, Psalm 25:12 is evidence or proof of Noah's righteousness Read Genesis 6:8-9 slowly and loudly, dont blink, or you'll miss the significant favor in Genesis 6:8 meshed in Proverbs 18:22 |
MrPresident1:What imagined interpretation are you talking about MrPresident1:Of course they both are from God and the power of choice resides with the picker The act of choosing between a prudent or foolish wife, just like as in Judges 14:2-3, is with you God has told only two people to take their spouses, Hosea was directly told and Joseph indirectly told via an angel. |
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