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Christianity Etc › Re: Q&A: What About Gambling? by MuttleyLaff: 10:09pm On Nov 21, 2018
PastorDavidAwuj:
I hope you see how it is contrary to God’s law of prosperity from my post above.
I hope you saw where I typed that the Bible does not anywhere in it, condemn gambling, betting, casting lots or the lottery
but that, if the gambling, betting, casting lots or the lottery is about trying to get rich quick, then it is an absolute NO, NO.

I also typed that there is a time and place for everything.
The occasional have a flutter, is OK but that's if it can be afforded
and not be done, at the expense of someone's else good welfare and wellbeing
Christianity Etc › Re: Q&A: When Were Jesus’ Disciples Born Again? by MuttleyLaff: 9:57pm On Nov 21, 2018
donnie:
On the day of Pentecost
Before then
Christianity Etc › Re: Q&A: What About Gambling? by MuttleyLaff: 9:42pm On Nov 21, 2018
PastorDavidAwuj:
I would say, gambling is always done at the gambler’s expense or wellbeing, when he loses.
I would say, we all take take risky action(s) every moment and every day, in the hope of a desired result
and so like I earlier put it: there is a time and place for everything.

Gambling, casting lots etcetera is not a bad thing if it's done within accepted bounds
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Abortion Morally Permissible? by MuttleyLaff: 9:08pm On Nov 21, 2018
johnydon22:
This is a very controversial topic in the world today, whether abortion is a morally permissible action or not.
do you think it is or not?
Why?
It is a morally permissible action
I dont see why not, is why
Christianity Etc › Re: Q&A: What About Gambling? by MuttleyLaff:
"23And they appointed two, Joseph called Barsabas, who was surnamed Justus, and Matthias.
24And they prayed, and said, Thou, Lord, which knowest the hearts of all men, shew whether of these two thou hast chosen,
25That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place.
26And they gave forth their lots; and the lot fell upon Matthias;
and he was numbered with the eleven apostles.
"
- Acts 1:23-26

Acts 1:23-26 above, is just one of the many narratives about casting of lots in the bible
The Bible does not anywhere in it, condemn gambling, betting, casting lots or the lottery

If the gambling, betting, casting lots or the lottery is about trying to get rich quick, then it is an absolute NO, NO.

There is a time and place for everything.
The occasional have a flutter, is OK but that's if it can be afforded
and not be done, at the expense of someone's else good welfare and wellbeing
Health › Re: Sukru Oytan, Turkish TV Presenter Collapses, Suffers Heart Attack Live On Air by MuttleyLaff: 8:21pm On Nov 21, 2018
GistersNG:
A TV presenter in Turkey suffered a heart attack during a live broadcast recently and collapsed
– Sukru Oytan, a sports presenter, had been fitted with a pacemaker just 10 days prior, after being diagnosed with arrhythmia — slow or irregular heartbeats.

The pacemaker is a device connected to people’s heart muscles and can relieve some arrhythmia symptoms such as fatigue and fainting.
If your heart rate is too slow, it sends an electrical signal to the heart muscle to start a heartbeat.

A viral video footage shows Oytan slump suddenly on the desk in front of him, before sliding off his chair and falling onto the studio floor.

Oytan was analysing the Sports Toto 1st League Eskisehirspor-Umraniyespor match when he paused suddenly.
After a short silence, he can be seen leaning with his head resting against the table, while his co-presenter, Guven Sabaz, appears to be confused about what to do in the situation.

He can be seen panting as he bends over and Sabaz begins walking over to his colleague
but Oytan falls out of his chair and onto the floor in a heap.

Turkish media said that Oytan had suffered a heart attack on air
and was rushed to hospital, where he was now reportedly in a stable condition.
Not dead
Christianity Etc › Re: Q&A: When Were Jesus’ Disciples Born Again? by MuttleyLaff:
PastorDavidAwuj:
It is very easy to understand. What does the word born- again mean?
It means reborn from the old nature of sin. Simple. This was exactly what Jesus came into the world to accomplish.

Adam fell and died spiritually- his spirit man was separated from God. Jesus came, died and rose again, he was the first born from spiritual death. Col 1:18.

It might interest you to know that nobody was born again until Jesus was resurrected.
You just need to understand what the word born again means.
It means born the second time after dying spiritually as a result of Adam’s fall.


Now, will you still say that Jesus disciples were “born again” before Jesus’ resurrection?
No sir
I concur without any demur with the emboldened

Perfectbeing:
They got born again after the death and resurrection of Jesus.
The holy spirit is the seal of our salvation.
PastorDavidAwuj, it might interest you to know that the disciples, including Nicodemus were born again before Jesus' death and resurrection.

paxonel:
Born again simply means to become Jesus disciple or follower as at the Jesus was never crucified or resurrected.
At that time there was nothing like christianity, so christians saying they are born again is aberration and they are only ridicling themselves.
Born again, as in the context it is used in John 3:1-7,
and in an outright or oversimplified manner, means "born from above"

paxonel:
There is nothing like born again anymore
Whilst the mention of "born again" seems incidental,
it actually is serious, important and worthwhile to know and understand

paxonel, you are born again
and if you permit me, I can prove to you, that you are
Christianity Etc › Re: The Catholic Song To Lucifer by MuttleyLaff: 5:42pm On Nov 21, 2018
SMH, just look at how this seemingly knowledgeable guy is getting educated
Christianity Etc › Re: Check Out A Nigerian Mother's Reply After Her Son Posted Photo Of An Indian God by MuttleyLaff:
servercodes001:
F@ck you stupid man,
That idol is the holy being of the Buddhist,
Buddhism has items like sin, heaven, hell etc
Somebody it seems, is having a rough day
and busy doing some serious strawman mining

That is not an idol.
It is a statue of Siddhartha Gautama, known as The Buddha and who happened to be a spiritual teacher in the northern region of India
Christianity Etc › Re: Check Out A Nigerian Mother's Reply After Her Son Posted Photo Of An Indian God by MuttleyLaff: 12:54pm On Nov 21, 2018
servercodes001:
So Buddha to you is a footballer Abi?
Mumu
The real mumu is you and those other two, that liked your ignorant comment

That is a picture of the statue of Siddhartha Gautama, known as The Buddha, who happened to be a spiritual teacher in the northern region of India.

The three of you are the only ones who dont know that Buddhists are atheists.
They don't believe in God and gods, don't worship a God or god.
Christianity Etc › Re: Check Out A Nigerian Mother's Reply After Her Son Posted Photo Of An Indian God by MuttleyLaff: 9:05am On Nov 21, 2018
Amagite:
Nigerian mums are undefeated!

A Twitter user shared his mum's reaction after he put up graven image of an Indian god in his Whatsapp display picture. See below...

Cc; Lalasticlala
Its a buddha statue not even a god.
Seems romantising with atheism
Christianity Etc › Re: Church Members Beat Up Lagos Pastor For Speaking In Fake Tongues (photo) by MuttleyLaff:
TalkTalkTwins:
We all know how fanatic Nigerians can get when it comes to religion and this is another clear case.
Speaking in tongues is one of the gifts of the spirit in the Bible and a form of praying in mystery.
A pastor was accused of reciting the Japanese national anthem all in the name of speaking in tongues. He was busted when a Japanese came to worship in his church and heard him. Church members took law into their hands and mobbed the man of God.
It is only some, lazy and indoctrinated Far-To-See (i.e. Pharisees) and Sad-To-See (i.e. Sadducees) somewhere,
looking for lesser praying effort, that believes that speaking in tongues,
especially with using the voice and/or vocal cords, is praying in some mysterious heavenly language

Nothing more than, lazy persons, way of looking for easier ways to pray things
and so "speaking in tongue as a prayer" is used as a crutch

Are any aware that, Paul downplays the importance of speaking in tongues
He, Paul, on record, even said, do not speak in tongues without an interpreter
This advice and guideline, is openly disregarded during gathering worships and/or prayer sessions

For Jews demand miraculous signs (i.e. ask for signs)
and Greeks ask for wisdom (i.e. philiosophy)
- 1 Corinthians 1:22

So you see that speaking in tongues is a sign, not for believers, but for unbelievers.
Prophecy, however, is for the benefit of believers, not unbelievers.

- 1 Corinthians 14:22

For all the three recorded times, speaking in other tongues, occurred in the bible,
it is visibly noted that, it happened each time, for the benefit of unbelieving Jews

Also for any interested parties, that might have been misinformed, it is a well documented truth, as seen in 1 Corinthians 14:22 above
that speaking in tongues is not for believers, rather it is used as a sign for unbelievers (i.e. 1 Corinthians 1:22a)

"13And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon,
and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world,
to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
"
- Revelation 16:13-14

Rev 16:13-14, is real and is here already
The end time deception of the demonic spirit, mentioned in Rev 16:13-14,
symbolised as three unclean spirits that looked like frogs is here
And how do frogs catch their prey?
Yes, using tongues to snare believers with their false speaking in tongues deception, working miracles with false tongues

If anyone speaks in a tongue, it should be by two or at the most three, and each in turn, and one must interpret;
- 1 Corinthians 14:27

"For if we practice sin willfully after having received the accurate knowledge of the truth, there is no longer any sacrifice for sins left
- Heb. 10:26

Paul, also was against corporate speaking in tongues without intrepretation,
An example what he was against,
will be, like that practice, when & where everybody, are prompted by pastors/worship leaders to, at the same time, start speaking in tongues,
but pride, egotism, arrogance, ignorance and bigotry prevents most from having this Heb. 10:26 knowledge of the truth registered in them. SMH
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Modern Pastors Focus On Malachi 3 Vs 10? by MuttleyLaff: 11:00am On Nov 20, 2018
It is because of ignorance, biblical illiteracy and the strong attraction of filthy lucre.
Christianity Etc › Re: The True Identity Of Catholic Mary by MuttleyLaff: 10:57am On Nov 20, 2018
budaatum:
Considering how little you said you've read, I am not surprised, though even moreso that you haven't found anything in that little to inspire you. As for me, in the beginning was the word, so whenever I come across it written down, I'm inspired. You blueagent, inspire me with what you've written and one day they'll inspire you too.
Meanwhile, here's some contradictions in the Bible.
To untrained eyes they look like contradictions
but really at all aren't budaatum
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Choose A Spouse For You? by MuttleyLaff:
adetayo234:
I've shown you where it is written that God chose a wife for Isaac.
Argue with the scriptures to justify your demonic sensual desire.
"That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair;
and they took them wives of all which they chose.
"
- Genesis 6:2

"And he took six hundred chosen chariots,
and all the chariots of Egypt, and captains over every one of them.
"
- Exodus 14:7

"Saul chose him three thousand men of Israel;
whereof two thousand were with Saul in Michmash and in mount Bethel,
and a thousand were with Jonathan in Gibeah of Benjamin:
and the rest of the people he sent every man to his tent.
"
- 1 Samuel 13:2

"In that day, saith the LORD of hosts, will I take thee, O Zerubbabel, my servant, the son of Shealtiel, saith the LORD,
and will make thee as a signet: for I have chosen thee, saith the LORD of hosts.
"
- Haggai 2:23

adetayo234 "yakach" is not choose
I keep telling you, the word used in the Genesis 24:44 original text is "yakach"
and not the other word "bachar" as in examples like Genesis 6:2, Exodus 14:7, Haggai 2:23, 1 Samuel 13:2 etc above, which means choose
but will you calm down, climb down from your high horse and listen,
no, because egotism, ignorance, arrogance and your bigotry wouldnt permit you to.
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Choose A Spouse For You? by MuttleyLaff: 8:12am On Nov 20, 2018
adetayo234:
I just showed you a place with evidence that God chosen a wife for Isaac.
Argue with the Word of God; it is your personal problem
The question isnt about a place with evidence that God chose a wife for Isaac
or being a personal problem
but does God choose a spouse for you

1/ Are you married?
2/ Did God choose your spouse for you?
3/ How many others, bar Hosea and Joseph, has God chosen a spouse for?
4/ What would have happened,
if Eliezer didnt make that prayer request, that God should show him Eliezer, whom God adjudges of, as wife for Isaac?
Christianity Etc › Re: What created God ? A Response To Atheist Question by MuttleyLaff: 8:01am On Nov 20, 2018
vaxx:
lol. is that Cantonese or mandarine?
Chinese pictogram or pictograph
Its Chinese equivalent of hieroglyph
Christianity Etc › Re: How Come We Did Not Hear Satan's Side Of The Story? by MuttleyLaff:
budaatum:
Sorry muttley
Sorry, again, whats the honey's brand name and is it organic?
- I, years ago, consciously stopped using sugar.

budaatum would you know where I can get or buy unpasteurized sauerkraut from?
I tried making my own years ago, but it turned out a fiasco
I make my own home-made chilli oil and yogurt


budaatum:
buda's sole reason for existing is to gain understanding,
and not by waiting for it to drop down like manna from heaven.
Truth will always be truth, regardless of lack of understanding, disbelief or ignorance
The truth will always be the truth, even if no one believes it.

budaatum buy the truth, and sell it not;
also wisdom, and instruction and understanding.

Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom:
and with all thy getting get understanding.

budaatum:
Now, perhaps you'd get out our way and let us who wish to go hear from the devil's mouth.
Some of us have to go to hell so there's enough space for you in heaven.
You would have knocked me down with a feather
if I hadnt known you have total freedom to be you, to be yourself.
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Choose A Spouse For You? by MuttleyLaff: 5:24am On Nov 20, 2018
adetayo234:
There is nothing to answer.
Do you know why, for you, there is nothing to answer?

You're unable to give answers because you're scared of the answers
and that's why, you find it hard to answer the questions.

The answers, will reveal that, it is our decision(s), on who we marry, the power of choice resides with you.
I have explained this, many times, on this thread, that God does not choose your spouse for you
but God, when invited, certainly orchestrates, to assist and help, like He did with Eliezer and I, to choose a spouse

adetayo234:
You shut yourself in the leg
I dont blame you for being afraid of the answers,
as you know, if you should dare answer those five questions, you wouldnt have a leg to stand on.

Hosea was commanded by God to marry Gomer and the angel of God told Joseph not to be afraid to marry Mary.
Those are the other two and only times God explicitly made a spouse choice for anyone
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Choose A Spouse For You? by MuttleyLaff: 1:48pm On Nov 19, 2018
adetayo234:
You are still shooting yourself in the leg. God approving is similar to God choosing.

Who does God approve if not someone he has chosen? Why not just shut up and stop turning the truth on its head?
Why don't you simply answer the five questions.
and who does the power of choice reside with?
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Choose A Spouse For You? by MuttleyLaff: 8:10am On Nov 19, 2018
Anas09:
I believe every Spirit-led child of God still gets divine direction as to who to marry.

Most of us today walk by sight, hence do not know how to listen and be led by the Holy Spirit.
I'm not sure a follower of Christ will be allowed to marry a pretencious person, then cry out later in anguish.

When the Bible says the Holy Spirit is our Guide, what is the limit of his guidance?
because marriage is a highly spiritual matter as it has it's origin deep in the Divine.

The Holy Spirits Helps us, directs us, teaches us what tho. Is there a limit?
Just like Eliezer did, so I prayed too God, about my partner.
My complete specifications and all, were met when I found and set eyes on my partner, so I readily made the choice.

The point is, God showed me whom He adjudged and/or appointed is good for me, it was left to me to choose or not
but the power of choice resided with me
I decide, I decided what choice action to make
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Choose A Spouse For You? by MuttleyLaff: 8:02am On Nov 19, 2018
adetayo234:
You are simply shooting yourself in the leg.
You are saying God can show you who to marry and, at the same time, saying he can't show you.
Where are you really standing?
Dont misquote me please
I wrote:
If you invite God to show who He approves of, He will oblige you
If you invite God to show who He decides is good for you, He will oblige you.
God, just like the Holy Spirit, doesnt force Himself or choices on anyone
The choice is yours to make.

Now the thread's question is:
Does God Choose A Spouse For You?

and I'll add,
1/ Are you married?
2/ Did God choose your spouse for you?
3/ How many others, bar Hosea and Joseph, has God chosen a spouse for?
4/ What would have happened, if Eliezer didnt make that prayer request, that God should show him, whom God adjudges of, as wife for Isaac?
Christianity Etc › Re: How Come We Did Not Hear Satan's Side Of The Story? by MuttleyLaff: 6:05am On Nov 19, 2018
budaatum:
It's your choice to cook up nonsense in your head and believe it, muttley.
The fact though is I just did a cup of coffee with one spoon of unmistakable honey from Asda on Old Kent Road.
They do a big jar, half the price of regular sized. I coffee everyday.
Is this organic honey?
What brand is it?

budaatum:
They were, muttley.
But for Adam no suitable helper was found. So the Lord God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man’s ribs and then closed up the place with flesh. Then the Lord God made a woman from the rib he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.

The man said, “This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called ‘woman,’ for she was taken out of man.”

To begin with, walking about with your bits on display is a sign of mindlessness.
You'd be mindless of bugs crawling up your behind, you'd be mindless of getting your bits in a snagg
and you'd probably piss anywhere creating more bugs that will crawl up your behind.
And they were slaves, if not to someone who lorded over them, at least to the travails of the environment they were in.
I doubt you've considered they had, what is akin to, spiritual/glorified bodies and protective "white garment" covering

budaatum:
Then, he "made you sleep", is made you mindless to the extent that you then awake and claim "she's mine! she's mine!" That's mindless plus.
You, rather no anaesthesia then?

On another level, you, as a parent, remember what it means wanting to get Junior or Princess to sleep
and know why you're trying, to get Junior or Princess to sleep
There is nothing mindless, in those past times, with you, trying to make lil Junior or Princess sleep then.

Recognition, acceptance and appreciation made "you" claim: "she's mine! she's mine!"

budaatum:
You know what's funny?
If you read your Bible all the way from beginning to end you would notice God changes over time.
Very early on, God is a jealous and avenging God; filled with wrath and taking vengeance on his foes and venting his wrath against his enemies. Later on "for God so loved the world". I guess you got to read to see what I mean.
Mark my word, future readers will claim evolution as an attribute of God justified by the Bible.
The fascinating thing I have observed a long time ago, is seeing what is happening and unfolding right before the eyes, starting right from there in the Garden

God (i.e. Elohim), in Genesis 1, is just plainly and ordinarily God (i.e. Elohim)
but in Genesis 2, starting from verse 4,
God (i.e. Elohim) switched to being conjoined with Lord (i.e. Yahweh) to be Lord God (i.e. Yahweh Elohim),
This seems to exemplify being assertive, prepotent, laying ownership claim, stamped authority and setting boundaries

Genesis 3:1-5, shows Eve and the serpent using the proper noun God (i.e. Elohim)
but then at Genesis 3:7, when the proverbial hit the fan, the Lord God (i.e. Yahweh Elohim) re-emerged to give them their just deserts
It was justice tempered with mercy, kindness, love and hope

Genesis 4, is about the Lord,
but at Genesis 4:25, the proper noun God (i.e. Elohim) nostalgically gets a mention, at the birth of Seth, after the tragedy of Abel's death

From Genesis 5 onwards, it's God (i.e. Elohim) or Lord (i.e. Yahweh)
and the occassional Lord God (i.e. Yahweh Elohim) random mention at crucial moments or during campaigns

You know what's really funny?
Human parents too mellow when their kids come of age


budaatum:
What is wisdom, muttley?
Another no brainer
Wisdom has to do with decision making, making and arriving at right conclusions budaatum
Example, knowledge is to know tomato is a fruit,
whereas wisdom is to know not to put tomato in a fruit bowl or fruit salad


budaatum:
Really? Satan was speaking in Prov 1.?
No, Satan wasnt speaking in Proverbs 1.
It is Wisdom speaking in Proverbs 1

Remember you asked:
who's call do you disregard, God's or Satan's?

at which, I replied:
This is a no brainer.
Of course, Satan's.


budaatum:
Then again, you might be right.

According to the Talmud, written in Babylon around 500 A.D., Solomon cut a deal with the devil to build the great temple of Jerusalem – with disastrous consequences.

"In order to build the temple, there were secrets he could only learn by capturing a demon.
The demon gets loose and does terrible things to Solomon," explained Weitzman.


If the devil can dabaru Solomon, imagine how much more it will dabaru you the reader of the proverbs of Solomon son of David, king of Israel, then imagine for everyone else.
The Talmud, is the Muslim's Hadith equivalent.
The Talmud, is not just unrealiable but also isnt God inspired.
The "God inspired" phrase is going to drive a bee up your bonnet. Hahaha ha

The Pharisees & other religious leaders used the Talmund to hold people in bondage
and because of that, Jesus was often at loggerheads with them over it

Just like the Muslim's Hadith, the Talmund too has its full share of the ridiculous, ludicrous and nonsensicals
That bit in it, about Solomon cutting a deal with the devil and capturing a demon is an example of such

This is a snapshot review of Steven Weitzman's Solomon: The Lure of Wisdom
Weitzman's concern is not so much in facts,
After all, he pointed out that what is universally known about George Washington – that he chopped down a cherry tree – is not true.

That Solomon: The Lure of Wisdom book is hustle mode activated plus plus.

budaatum:
About, "this is a no brainer" my ass, muttley!
The "struggle against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world
and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms", are a brainer to buda.
Don't try to understand everything budaatum.
Sometimes, everything is not at a go, meant to be understood, there are things that are accepted, just as they are.
As time matures, full understanding sets.
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Choose A Spouse For You? by MuttleyLaff: 4:27am On Nov 19, 2018
Anas09:
As much as i go with you 100%, but the Op is not about Pastor say.
Its about God Himself affirming a spouse.
Does it still happen? is the query here.
The query here is:
Does God Choose A Spouse For You?

and I'll add, how many others, bar Hosea and Joseph, has God chosen a spouse for?
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Choose A Spouse For You? by MuttleyLaff: 7:02pm On Nov 18, 2018
adetayo234:
Don't turn the scriptures upside down God chose Rebecca for Isaac as proven by the scriptures
You're missing an important point.
What would have happened, if Eliezer didnt make that prayer request, that God should show him whom He adjudges of as wife for Isaac?

adetayo234:
God sees into the future.
If he thinks a particular man or woman will will negativity affect you in the future, he will reveal it to you.
If you invite God to show who He approves of, He will oblige you
If you invite God to show who He decides is good for you, He will oblige you.
God, just like the Holy Spirit, doesnt force Himself or choices on anyone
The choice is yours to make.

adetayo234:
If he isn't choosing wife, then he wouldn't be thus concerned.
How many others, bar Hosea and Joseph, has God chosen a wife for?
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Choose A Spouse For You? by MuttleyLaff: 6:25pm On Nov 18, 2018
adetayo234:
Oga, don't change the words of the scriptures to satisfy your selfish, sensual, demonic human desire.

The word is "chosen". Don't change it.
The original word used is "yakach"
It means, to decide, to adjudge

adetayo234:
God chose a wife for Isaac in the person of Rebecca
How many others, bar Hosea and Joseph, has God chosen a wife for?

adetayo234:
And for your information, the unadulterated King James version said "appointed".
So, God APPOINTED a wife for Isaac.

Stop watering down the Word of God; it is demonic.
Can you not see that God was invited to show who He approved of?
Can you not understand that God was invited to show who He decided is good for Isaac?
It doesnt take away the fact that the power of choice resided with Eliezer, who is going to take or make decision.
What would have happened if Eliezer didnt make that prayer request?

Nauttyprof:
He who finds a wife doesn't mean literally that it is done outside God.
"Never speak for God when He never spoke.
The statement you quoted shows Adam just finding excuses for not taking responsibility for his actions
"
- by Nauttyprof(m): 4:24pm

If that statement like you said today at 4:24pm, shows Adam, just finding excuses for not taking responsibility for his actions
then other Adams can start finding their wives themselves and stop mouthing off to God
Afterall, he, who then finds a wife, finds what is good and receives favor from the LORD
This isnt rocket science nor needing to be over spiritualised

Nauttyprof:
[s]It is just like when God wanted a new King for Isreal after Saul.
The Bible recorded that 'God SOUGHT for a man after His heart'.
Why will God search and not just pick?

You can search for this with the help of God and His standard as laid down in His word for you[/s].

Does God chooses? Yes, but the choice is your to either accept or reject this.

[s]There is nowhere in the Bible where it was mentioned that God backed out from choosing spouses for man[/s].

Let's not add to what the scriptures never said.
Though I have already mentioned the power of choice, you still keep strawmanning.
so let's cut to the chase, you are saying emphatically that God chooses spouses for us. Right?
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Choose A Spouse For You? by MuttleyLaff: 4:37pm On Nov 18, 2018
adetayo234:
Genesis 24:14

14May it be that when I say to a young woman, ‘Please let down your jar that I may have a drink,’
and she says, ‘Drink, and I’ll water your camels too’—
let her be the one you have chosen for your servant Isaac.
By this I will know that you have shown kindness to my master.”

People keep throwing lies about the place and they even express the lie in a factual manner
"let her be the one you have chosen approved for your servant Isaac"

The original word used in the original text is "approved" and not "chosen'

Eliezer, Abraham's servant, finds a wife for Isaac, so finds a good thing and obtains favor from the Lord.
Upon finding, the choice is Eliezer's to make, the power of choice resides with Eliezer.
The power of choice to decide who Isaac's spouse is was bestowed on Eliezer.

Nothing is more compelling than the power of choice.
With the power of choice, you can choose good over evil and right over wrong

God does not choose spouses for us, you make the choice.
Your choice shows who you truly and really are, and this is why we are advised to choose right

Nauttyprof:
Never speak for God when He never spoke.
The statement you quoted shows Adam just finding excuses for not taking responsibility for his actions
"He who finds a wife finds what is good and receives favor from the LORD."
- Proverbs 18:22

After Adam, it's only Hosea and Joseph, that God had explicitly told about spouses

Nauttyprof:
Also, after he uttered this statement, the Bible never said that God withdrew from deciding for men.
Infact, no actions suggested that God withdrew from affairs of men instead He became more interested.
As they were sent out of the garden of Eden, God gave them a better covering as clothes compared to the plant they have as cover.

It will be very wrong to speak where the Bible never spoke. Please, take note of this.

Many got guidance from God to choose the right spouse.

Finally, God still chooses but we need to have a personal confirmation too as against just meeting with prophet. Some might not see anything and yet speak that God chose this and that.

God can never make a mistake but man is fallible
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Strawmanning
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Choose A Spouse For You? by MuttleyLaff: 3:23pm On Nov 18, 2018
adetayo234:
And what stops you from pasting the scripture you quoted here also?
Why accuse another of what you are guilty of?
What manner of spiritual hypocrisy is that?!
"2When he returned, he said to his father and mother,
“I have seen a Philistine woman in Timnah; now get her for me as my wife.”
3His father and mother replied,
“Isn’t there an acceptable woman among your relatives or among all our people?
Must you go to the uncircumcised Philistines to get a wife?”
But Samson said to his father,
“Get her for me. She’s the right one for me.”

- Judges 14:2-3

I suggested you paste Genesis 24:14 here
and to let's self examine it together, to see, if the power of choice resided or not, with Eliezer
but since you're eager on Judges 14:2-3, and have humbly asked to see it pasted here, I have obliged you
Christianity Etc › Re: How Come We Did Not Hear Satan's Side Of The Story? by MuttleyLaff:
budaatum:
"In as much as I trust those here whom I see", muttley.
Or is that not in your God book?
Dont trust everything you see budaatum, even salt looks like sugar

budaatum:
Give Satan credit for elevating humans from mindless slaves and for giving humans pants?
Some people do muttley.
Even amongst those who think Satan is a figment of the imagination, just like God.
budaatum, humans were never mindless slaves
and humans didnt need pants.

budaatum:
But since you refuse to listen when I call and no one pays attention when I stretch out my hand, since you disregard all my advice and do not accept my rebuke, I in turn will laugh when disaster strikes you; I will mock when calamity overtakes you— when calamity overtakes you like a storm, when disaster sweeps over you like a whirlwind, when distress and trouble overwhelm you. “Then they will call to me but I will not answer; they will look for me but will not find me, since they hated knowledge and did not choose to fear the LORD.

Some would think the entity you call God speaks here,
Wisdom is the principal thing, therefore get wisdom.

budaatum:
but I'd warn you that, if Satan can dabaru heaven and dabaru Eden,
it can dabaru the bible and dabaru your mind too.
To be forewarned, is to be forearmed

budaatum:
Just ask yourself who laughs at ones disaster, and mocks ones calamity
and does not answer when called upon,
Imagine clicking on this coming next black dot hoping and expecting another web page to load.
Wisdom will laugh at you, when you make a prat of yourself trying to open the next web page clicking on the black dot

budaatum:
but more especially, who's call do you disregard, God's or Satan's?
You might understand who moans here.
This is a no brainer.
Of course, Satan's.
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Choose A Spouse For You? by MuttleyLaff: 11:18am On Nov 18, 2018
asuustrike1:
At times na money oh!
What happens then when money fails?

asuustrike1:
Most of these ladies are easily moved by what they see.
"And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food,
and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat,
"
- Genesis 3:6

asuustrike1:
Just pick your hands cross and watch how things unfold.
Try your best in showing her love
but if she insist on depending on those prophecies, you know what to do.
ethankareem, if you're genuine, a version of Matthew 1:19-20,
significantly Matthew 1:20 can be reenacted, to say or do something to remove the doubts and fears of her about you
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Choose A Spouse For You? by MuttleyLaff:
Geenosko:
Oga God is not in control of the universe for now.
The devil took control of universe after the event at the garden of Eden.

If God was in control, the earth would be perfect.
MrPresident1:
God is in charge, he only turned his back on you,
but he did not turn his back from the ones who love and fear him
Geenosko, Adam and Eve voluntarily gave up what control they had on earth to the devil
God is still and very much in control, please dont get things twisted Geenosko.

Geenosko:
God is not in charge of this world.
He only will be after rapture.

Where is God when terrible things happen to those who "love and fear him"

Where was God when that 13 old year old girl was raped to death?

Where was God when innocent people die daily?

Satan is the god of this world because Adam handed it over to him and God doesn't break his laws.

You have a Bible, go and study it for yourself
God was in the same place He always is, when He was assaulted, brutalised, ridiculed
and lastly put to death on trumped-up charges

God gave the earth to man and it's like when you allocate a room in your house for your son or daughter
Just because your son's or daughter's room is messy doesnt mean you've lost control of the house or home
It doesnt mean you are about, when the bedroom wall was defaced or when the room got dirty

MuttleyLaff:
What imagined interpretation are you talking about

Of course they both are from God
and the power of choice resides with the picker
The act of choosing between a prudent or foolish wife, just like as in Judges 14:2-3, is with you

God has told only two people to take their spouses,
Hosea was directly told and Joseph indirectly told via an angel.
MrPresident1:
Psalm 25:12
What man is he that feareth the Lord?
him shall he teach in the way that he shall choose.


Lying criminal. Fear God and he will choose the best wife for you.
Yes, Psalm 25:12 is evidence or proof of Noah's righteousness
Read Genesis 6:8-9 slowly and loudly, dont blink, or you'll miss the significant favor in Genesis 6:8 meshed in Proverbs 18:22
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Choose A Spouse For You? by MuttleyLaff: 10:08am On Nov 18, 2018
MrPresident1:
Your interpretation is of no essence.
What imagined interpretation are you talking about

MrPresident1:
Prudent or foolish wife is from God
Of course they both are from God
and the power of choice resides with the picker
The act of choosing between a prudent or foolish wife, just like as in Judges 14:2-3, is with you

God has told only two people to take their spouses,
Hosea was directly told and Joseph indirectly told via an angel.

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