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armadeo:
I usually watch movies to be entertained and try not to fault them but venom was shit.

Everything was wrong, I couldn't feel the movie at all. Too much crap thrown in my face ( despite my love for superhero movies).


Ad I said before there should have gone the deadpool route and made It bloody Stamp R18 on it and let it fly instead of the child like movie they attempted to make.

Did you notice that despite all the killing one drip of blood didn't appear in the entire movie.

P.s @ muttleylaff WTF

Though, I didnt mention you, be at least comparatively civil if you want to know
I know everyone have their bad days, but please dont take yours out here

JeromeBlack:
So no one has seen creed 2?

Abeg na! I want to start argument on creed 2. Fvck venom

http://www.veoh.com/watch/v363280nFSFMC66 - Pilot 101
http://www.veoh.com/watch/v384437hZJ6YSHD - 102

Cute Boy God:
Remember me?

Joan Girardi:
Why all the familiar looks?
Doing the greatest hits, or are you getting a little pleased with yourself?

Cute Boy God:
You see me the way you want to see me, Joan.
Like right now, you're mad at me... maybe you feel safer being mad at me when I look like this.

Joan Girardi:
You have a lot to answer for, buddy! No one asks to be born!...
So we all get to die, and then everyone we love dies?

Cute Boy God:
Yeah.

Joan Girardi:
And... and that's good for you?

Cute Boy God:
Joan, there's nothing about death that I can say that would make sense to you.

Joan Girardi:
A lot of what happens here really sucks, so much for your... perfect system...
Can you see me being really mad at you right now?

Cute Boy God:
Yes.

Joan Girardi:
Why does it have to be so hard?

Cute Boy God:
What specifically?

Joan Girardi:
Being alive, let's start there.

Cute Boy God:
You wish you weren't alive?

Joan Girardi:
No! I... I don't know. I wish... it didn't... hurt so much.

Cute Boy God:
It hurts because you feel it, Joan... because you're alive.
You love people, that generates a lot of power, a lot of energy.
The same kind of energy that binds atoms together, we've all seen what happens when you try to pry them apart.

Joan Girardi:
So, if I don't get attached to people then... it won't hurt so much?

Cute Boy God:
No, it's in your nature to get attached to people, I put that in the recipe.
It's when you guys try to ignore that... when you try to go it alone, that's when it gets ugly. It's hell.

Cute Boy God:
It's Hell? Like the Hell?

Cute Boy God:
You know I'm real, Joan. You've always known, you're not crazy.
Then you got chance to see what it really looks like.
Crazy is destructive, it tears down. I'm all about building up.

Joan:
Then I suggest you take up carpentry.

Cute Boy God:
What do you think this is all about?

Joan:
Uh, you I suppose.

Cute Boy God:
It's a creation, Joan. It's not a destruction.
And that's what I want you to do. I want you to be creative, I want you to build things.

Joan:
I build lamps!

Cute Boy God:
Relationships, possibilities, connections.
[Pulls a book from His jacket pocket] Look, have you read this?

Joan:
You stole that!

Cute Boy God:
Well, technically everything's mine.

Cute Boy God:
Joan, I need to talk to you.

Joan:
Unless I'm missing something, we are talking.

Cute Boy God:
I want to be honest.

Joan:
Okay, who are you?

Cute Boy God:
I saw you today.

Joan:
Saw me where?

Cute Boy God:
Outside of your house. Look, I didn't mean to scare you.

Joan:
Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait. That was you?
[He nods] That guy was an old guy.

Cute Boy God:
Okay, this is the difficult part.
I don't always look the same.

Joan:
What are you talking about? What do you want with me?
'Cause I'm gonna warn you, my dad's a cop. He's not just any cop he is *the* cop.

Cute Boy God:
I know who your father is, Joan.
He's Will Girardi, he's born September 4th, 1955, in Chicago. His father was Gerald Girardi, his mother was Elena Monroe.
He had an uneventful childhood, attended Mother Cabrini high school, and Morten Junior College.
After that he joined the police force in 1980. Then he met your mother, one Helen Brodie, she was an art school drop out. You're the middle child of three. About a year and a half ago your older brother, Kevin was in a car accident. Fractured his back, left him a paraplegic. You have one other brother, Luke, who's fifteen.
Your favorite color's green, you love salt on cantaloupe, Jim Das broke your hear in eighth grade. And you're afraid of clowns.

Joan:
Who are you?

Cute Boy God:
I've known you since before you were born, Joan.

Joan:
I'll ask you one more time.

Cute Boy God:
I'm God.

Joan:
[Joan sees Cute Boy God waiting for her] Hey, God! Get lost, I mean it.

Cute Boy God:
I know you think you mean it.

Joan:
You know, I'm going to give my father a full description and a composite drawing, you'll be booked before dark.

Cute Boy God:
Maybe he'll be too busy thinking of creative ways to ground you for mouthing off in French class.

Joan:
Are you spying on me?

Cute Boy God:
I'm omniscient Joan, comes with the job.

Joan:
Okay. So you're God?

Cute Boy God:
Yes.

Joan:
As in, God.

Cute Boy God:
Right.

Joan:
Old Testament, Tower of Babel, burning bush, Ten Commandments, God.

Cute Boy God:
Well I come off a little friendlier in the New Testament and the Quran, but uh, yeah. Same God.

Joan:
And I'm supposed to believe you because...?

Cute Boy God:
Because you have a feeling.

Joan:
No I don't. [Joan turns and walks away]

Cute Boy God:
How about you believe me if I agree to overlook that promise you didn't keep?

Joan:
[Joan turns back around] What promise?

Cute Boy God:
Let's see, that you'd study hard, stop talking back, clean your room, and even go to church, if I recall, if I let your brother live.

Joan:
[Joan stares in silence, stunned by what she's just heard] How did you know about that?

Cute Boy God:
Omniscience, look it up.

Joan:
So you let my brother live, and now you're here to collect?

Cute Boy God:
No, I don't bargain. That would be cruel.

Joan:
Okay, so let's say you're God.

Cute Boy God:
Thank you.

Joan:
I wanna ask you some questions.

Cute Boy God:
No.

Joan:
No?

Cute Boy God:
No, as a general rule, I ask questions.

Joan:
Are you, are you being snippy with me? God is snippy.

Cute Boy God:
Let me explain something to you, Joan. It goes like this: I don't look like this, I don't look like anything you'd recognize. You can't see me. I don't sound like this, I don't sound like anything you'd recognize. You see, I'm beyond your experience. I take this form because, you're comfortable with it, it makes sense to you. And if I'm *snippy*, it's because you understand snippy. You get it?

Joan:
Sort of.

Cute Boy God:
Good, because I'm really not snippy. I've got a great personality, you'd like me.

Joan:
Well, I'm not religious you know.

Cute Boy God:
It's not about religion, Joan. It's about fulfilling your nature.

Joan:
Oh, I definitely haven't done that.

Cute Boy God:
Exactly.

Joan:
Well, let's, let's say you're God.

Cute Boy God:
Joan, I *am* God.

Joan:
Okay, well let's see a miracle.

Cute Boy God:
Okay. How about that.

Joan:
[Joan looks up] That's a tree.

Cute Boy God:
Let's see you make one.

Joan:
[Joan is in the hallway of her school. God appears as an older woman selling cupcakes for the soccer team] You're getting really good at showing up when nobody needs you.

Old Lady God:
Well, now, that's your opinion.

Joan:
So what do you want me to fail at this time?

Old Lady God:
Now what makes you think you failed? You did exactly what I asked you to do: you observed.

Joan:
Hmm! And what good did that do anybody? Ramsey's going to jail, Adam hates me even more...

Old Lady God:
Observation is a more powerful force than you could possibly reckon. The invisible, the overlooked, and the unobserved are those that are most in danger of reaching the end of the spectrum. They lose the last of their light. From there, anything can happen.

Joan:
Okay. Fine, I observed Ramsey, his life is still ruined.

Old Lady God:
His life wasn't the only one at stake.

Joan:
What do you mean?

Old Lady God:
[Starts pointing out different students in the hallway] There's Laura Eason, ninth grader. She plays the flute. She would have been one of the first to go... [gunshot sound] coming out of Orchestra at the wrong time. And Andrew Bayer: he would have tried to save his friend Lawrence DiStasi and lost his life. [two gunshots] And Gavin Price. [gunshot] And three other students in the cafeteria. And Mr. Harvey. And Ms. Schmidt in the library. And finally, Steve Ramsey himself. And for each of these faces Joan, there are twelve more whose lives would have come to an end today - lives altered forever by you. By the simple effect of being present, by entering the light, by joining the dance. [Joan wipes away a tear]


JeromeBlack click on the links above to watch the pilot and then afterwards navigate for the entire series
The above snippets are tasters to what to expect from the dialogues
Come back, lets discuss when you're done watching all.

JeromeBlack:
And the point that Muttleylaff is missing is that the OJ Simpson case has nothing to do with skepticism.
OJ Simpson escaped with murder because there was a rule based system which the prosecutors failed to follow properly (even though they had the evidence).

The court is not solely based on skepticism.
If you have evidence against someone but obtained it illegally, the court will throw away the evidence.

JeromeBlack, the point has always been about the OJ Simpson and Holocaust overwhelming evidences

I am glad you admitted that OJ Simpson escaped with murder charge.
Whether it was obtained it illegally or not, the fact remained that overwhelming evidences points at him

JeromeBlack:
Muttleylaff, it is high time you learn to follow logic and learn to discuss with people

JeromeBlack it is high time you learn that no amount of presentations of God overwhelming evidences makes any difference to the stubborn

JeromeBlack:
Both christians and atheists have been pointing out the same issue to you but you remain stubborn

Remind me to get you a solidarity mug

JeromeBlack:
Better grow up.

Better grow out from your logic of ignorance
and grow up some good old fashion faith to know and accept that the existence of God is undeniable

vaxx:
in both cases - O J Simpson and the Holocaust - there is definite physical, photographic and eyewitness evidence. Evidence of empirical demonstration are all what they have in common.

Thank you.

vaxx:
That is why i said too much of anything, be it credulity or skepticism, is a bad thing. As it leads to denialism and paranoia

Emperical demonstration is not the only method of truth seeking , there is also a rules based system which proceeds from step to step to a solution.

We know that and all
but I repeat, in all honesty vaxx, what feature(s) does the OJ Simpson and Holocaust memes, have in common?

vaxx:
in all honesty, the existence of God is a complex topic.. self evident for some of us who accept it by faith. More complex for those of us who demand an explanation.

I quite agree with this remark and agreed without demur

vaxx:
There is False equivalency between the two meme subjects you posted and between those subjects and rejection of god.

United States laws have an adversarial form of legal representation. That is, the lawyers on each side of an issue oppose one another, and with the sole purpose of winning the case, despite justice or even evidence. The object is to convince a jury of 12 untrained people who are unable to avoid jury duty that the chosen reality is correct, and each side can manipulate any and all evidence to win. Therefore, whether you're innocent or guilty, the cunning of your legal team will determine whether you go to prison.

Holocaust deniers are dishonestly blind to facts because of their skewed mind set.The evidence exists and can't be invalidated , but some flaw of reasoning, typically emotional responses overcoming the intellect, or the result of indoctrination, often from birth, is blocking their own evidence.

Atheism are demanding for emperical demonstration of God.

In all honesty vaxx, what feature do both memes, have in common?

Inspite of ample and overwhelming evidences, it is laughable that atheism is still demanding for empirical demonstration of God

vaxx:
Too much of anything, be it credulity or skepticism, is a bad thing. Too much skepticism becomes denialism and paranoia. The memes are exactly what memes almost always are, a simplification, and in this case, an oversimplification, of a more complex question.

What is the complex question?

Ihedinobi3:
All right then, brother. Thank you for clearing that up.

Have yourself a blessed, good and brilliant week.

ATMC:

Good day everyone. Hope y'all are growing, developing, maturing and getting along with a lot that's going on in and around you ?

I have a question please and because I learnt a lot here, I returned to learn more.

Hope y'all are still around, you know yourselves... Abeg come over here.
First question,
Rev 5:8-10 showed that the 24 elders were redeemed.
How? Does it mean they walked the earth and were sinners before redemption?
If not, what then were they redeemed from?

"For the life of the flesh is in the blood:
and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls:
for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul."
- Leviticus 17:11

They were redeemed, is a poor word choice,
because in actuality, it is an act of purchase, as in, bought with blood and precisely that is how they were "redeemed"

ATMC:
Second question,
has Jesus married his bride (the church)?
If no, what's their relationship status right about now? Dating?

No, Jesus has not yet married His bride (i.e. ekklesia or the church)

Ekklesia or the church is currently betrothed to Jesus
so yep, you could in a way, say their relationship status right about now is dating

vaxx:
Apples and oranges comparison,
A logical and fastforward thinking atheist may ask if that is the so called evidence for God?.
I actually do not think that is a good defence anyway.

The point made with the OJ Simpson and Holocaust is that ample and overwhelming evidence is not necessarily a panacea, solution or answer.
It is something simple than overwhelming evidence

Thomas Aquinas succinctly said:
"To one who has faith, no explanation is necessary.
To one without faith, no explanation is possible"

Ihedinobi3:
I was asking because I did not notice these indicators you mean.

Anyway, I think it is rather dangerous to view these things like this.
I really would rather not interfere with your conscience on this or any other matter of application
but many here on Nairaland who have forsaken the Faith did so
because they increasingly found these "intellectual" attacks on the Faith annoying
and eventually began to think in terms of winning or losing arguments.

The Faith does not need defending. Faith IS our defense. As such, it will never be popular with the world.
This world does not want to trust God.
So, you cannot expect to convince anyone about the trustworthiness of God unless they themselves choose to trust Him.

When I debate here, it is not about changing minds or getting anyone to admit anything or to prove anything or anything like that.
It is for my brothers and sisters that I debate.
I use each opportunity to develop the Truth for those brothers and sisters who are attacked by doubts.
They may not know how to ask their questions
and an atheist frames it in just the right way for me to produce an answer that strengthens and encourages them when they read it.

This is never about the atheist.
As much as we may hope and pray that each one we minister to will repent and turn to the Lord and be saved, that is their choice.
It matters nothing whether this or that person thinks that we lost an argument or handled some discussion poorly or not.
The only person whose opinion in such matters counts for anything is the Lord Himself.

So, again, I beg you to be at peace.
It is not your duty, judging by the Scriptures, to police people's thoughts and choices.
Let JeromeBlack think what he will. It is his prerogative, not yours.

I giggled so hard that I almost spilled over my glass of rouge reading this post

Relax Ihedinobi3, you shouldnt, in the first place, have asked
because you just decided to scratch an itch that would soon fade when you did.

If you are observant, you would have noticed that I use JeromeBlack's comments in my responses to his remarks.
My responses were a rehash of his phrases and some little idiosyncrasies of JeromeBlack in his post that I am replying to
JeromeBlack does know I used them because he can see me repeating his construct idiosyncrasies in my replies.

Ihedinobi3, whatever I post, is for, to whom it concerns.
It is very much for atheists, very much for believers, very much for my neighbour and all

I am seriously not trying to be argumentative here.
It is a fact, I have so many times and for the record, made it clear, I dont do arguments.
I dont argue, I never argue and that is for very a good reason.
Besides, instead of winning arguments, why dont people work on winning self?
I think Malik is absolutely right, when he said that,
arguing about sacred knowledge causes the heart to hard and results in hatred or alienation

Except for those that should know better, I dont convince people and I dont convict people
I am not out to change the minds of people against their will.
I can only tell you the truth. I cant make people believe it.
I rarely teach, I share knowledge, share information.
The aim is that people think with and/or from what I share
I know what I bring to share on the table, so trust me when and if I say, I am not afraid to eat alone

I am observational.
I often say things as they are or as seen, most times, not minding whose ox is being gored
I light candles, and no one lights a lamp to cover it with a jar or put it under a bed.
I am a fighter, who fights the good fight of the faith.
Sometimes, it feels good to fight and slay demons,
so you could dissect them and find out what they've been feeding on.

JeromeBlack has not just my blessing, to think whatever he wants to think, he actually has God's blessing too.
Each man must follow his way according to his nature.
It's a matter of time. Time will tell. Time is a snitch, it's always gonna tell

JeromeBlack:
How silly.

The OJ Simpson murder trial is very different from the holocaust.

OJ Simpson was later found guilty on wrongful death in civil court.

The court has a system and when a lawyer ignores that system, he loses the case.

The holocaust museum and facts are there for anyone to see.
I hope you know that most holocaust deniers are muslims and racist christians?

The common denominator shared in the OJ Simpson and holocaust is overwhelming evidence
Thank you for conceding and confirming that inspite of overwhelming evidence, some people do deny the obvious and reality of the holocaust

Ihedinobi3:
I'm afraid I didn't think he thought so. I probably missed something.
Did he say something to suggest that? I don't mean to challenge you.
I'm just wondering how anyone can come to the conclusion that you did.
Why would he think that I mishandled the thread?

There were many indicators of him doing and subtly showing it

JeromeBlack:
a criminal case is different from a civil case.
A murder charge requires reasonable doubt.
A divorce, on the other hand requires a different standard of evidence.
Your analogy fails.

You can argue with yourself as much as you like
the fact remains that just like inspite of overwhelming evidence, justice wasnt served in the case of the Simpson case,
and some people, still to today deny the existence of the holocaust, just like you too are opaqued to overwhelming evidence(s).

LordReed:
He is arguing that you should not have called the 3 conjectures facts.
As if that affects anything.
Some people just like to flog semantics to death but completely ignore the point being made.

1000 likes to you for this epiphany
Some people just like to throw caution to wind and completely ignore correction when pointed out to them

If he couldnt get fact and facts right, only God knows what else he hasnt gotten the fact(s) right about
Conjectures don't affect facts, facts should affect conjectures, and they do, if you are sensible.

JeromeBlack:
@MuttleyLaff, every sensible person knew that OJ Simpson committed the murders.
The problem was that the prosecution mishandled the case and didnt prove beyond reasonable doubt.
OJ Simpson's case has nothing to do with atheism.
[s]Please, use your sense. The picture below is stupid[/s]

Every sensible person knows that you think Ihedinobi3 has mishandled this thread and hasnt proven things to you beyond reasonable doubt.

JeromeBlack, the OJ Simpson and the holocaust are parallels
Just like inspite of overwhelming evidence, justice wasnt served in the case of the former,
and where some people, till today deny the existence of the holocaust
so you

Like seriously, give it a rest, admit you're a die-hard skeptic.

Ranchhoddas:
They probably do. I don't know.

You havent been observant enough
but I know you will now and will be on the look out to see any Mike books lying around, after hearing that name,

Ranchhoddas:
But he has learnt well.
In fact he has become a master with several disciples of his own.

I am not surprised
He made a good choice in singling out Mike Murdock

The best way with them, to double your money, is to fold it over once and put it in your pocket.

GistersNG:
Yesterday December 1st was celebrated as World’s AIDS day
and a man has taken to his Facebook page to voice out his opinion on the dreaded disease.

The man identified as Nwankwo Ogechi Peter believes once you test positive for HIV, that is the end for you.

He further stated, in his post, that the best remedy is to remain faithful to a partner
and it is not even guaranteed that condoms can even stop one from contracting the disease.

Same sex relationship should be between two consenting adults,
in a faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving, lasting that's life-long and loyal relationship,
that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person,
and is poses no harm to an object or neighbour.

It is important to know that, it is not the end of you, if you start treatment straightaway after testing positive for HIV.
People who start treatment quite early enough do enjoy a normal life expectancy.

Ranchhoddas:
I have no idea. I always thought he was Oyedepo's disciple.
They are very similar in the way they operate

Mike Murdock.
I bet your lovely relatives in PH have loads of Mike's book lying around their houses besides Ibiyeomie's

Ranchhoddas:
Lol.
I am currently in Port Harcourt where his church is based.
I have many relatives here and most of them go there.
When I'm bored I accompany them.

Always remember to eat the hay and spit out the sticks.

Ranchhoddas:
I also like the fact that his services do not take a lot of time.

Clever

Ranchhoddas:
His services are entertaining really.
He has mastered the art of subtly threatening his congregation with poverty if they do not give till it hurts.

He is also very good at bragging about how much money he has made via giving.

Do you know who he learned all that jagbanjatis from?
It's not even from that Oyedepo's Bible School programme where he went to cut his teeth.
Guess.

Ihedinobi3:
As I said, I don't believe it mattered at all.

It might not matter
but it at the least, needed to be pointed out.
If he couldnt get fact and facts right, only God knows what else he hasnt gotten the fact(s) right about

Ihedinobi3:
I think that I am reading you right.

I respect how you choose to handle those you discuss with. I'm sure that you have your reasons for doing as you do.

I personally prefer to do as I have told you. If anyone asks me questions or challenges what I believe, I will answer them in as gentle a spirit as possible. It may be that sometimes a rebuke is necessary but if I can avoid rebuking I would much rather do so.

My desire is to make sure that the focus is always on the Truth. What they choose to do with it is their problem, not mine.

As much as I do agree with you
at least you can admit, he called and tried to paint three conjectures as facts, instead of being three opinions, that they really were

To be honest with you, I think it was a pleasing to see, Freudian slip, it unmasked and revealed his subconscious

brodalokie:
Don't you think such a place would be boring?
Without the riddle of the Sphinx some people may die of boredom

Nope.
First and foremost, they will no more be death
and then no eye has seen, no ear has heard and no human mind has conceived the exciting things that has been prepared

Ranchhoddas:
He is also very charismatic with a good sense of humor.
He also cannot preach without mentioning money, money, money.

Ergo, Mammon is his god.
He also has some parlour tricks up his sleeve.

He learned from one of the best

Ranchhoddas:
Anyway, his services are enjoyable. I for go today.
Just not in the mood to waste money this Sunday.

1/ Out of curiosity how did you start going to Salvation Ministries?
2/ Why Salvation Ministries?
3/ What attracts you to Salvation Ministries?

Ihedinobi3:
It really made no difference.

As for suffering atheists, they are also people for whom the Lord Jesus died.
Some of them have turned from this foolishness to serving the Lord Jesus spiritually and enthusiastically.
Their opposition to Christ should never be taken personally.
Of course we all stumble so we may still take it personally sometimes but we don't need to.
It certainly shouldn't be made a principle to live by.
We were once unbelievers after all.

Dont read me wrong, of course I do tolerate atheists
but the fact is, I know when to shake the dust off my feet and wash my hands of.
Even after that, one hand's to chastise, and the other hand's to pull back and praise
Tough love is real, it's not easy because it hurts the giver far more than the receiver

Ihedinobi3:
I thought that he was referring to the 4 points that followed with the fourth one being an afterthought. Still, I think that he could be excused.

You know that I do not hold brief for atheists. You know precisely what I think of atheism.
There is no possibility of reconciliation between me and that point of view.
But when I discuss with anyone, I try to give them credit where it is due. It does not hurt my Faith.
I know Him Whom I have believed. Granting an atheist credit that is due to them can only happen because of my confidence in what I have learned of the Lord and am still learning everyday.

Also, I don't engage because I want to convert them or make them see reason. Everyone makes their choice about what to believe. It is very relaxing and freeing when you come to understand that you have responsibility only to teach the Truth to those who ask about it. It is up to them what they choose to do with it, not up to you. Your business is to make sure that you are growing and making progress in the Truth and helping everyone that you can to keep doing the same if they want to.

So, be at peace, brother.

"... Your wife claims that there is a field of yam behind the fence.
My wife claims that there is a field of swamp rice behind the fence.
You then claim that there is a football field behind the fence.
There will only be 3 facts from this scenario..."
- by JeromeBlack: 2:53pm

He used "facts" as a line of thought that about because of those three opinions and outright pretences train of thought in his scenario.
If fact, is a thing that is known or proved to be true, why then is he calling them facts, when they havent been proven to be known to be true?
That is my serious bone of contention.

JeromeBlack:
Thanks for being honest. Much respect!

Ihedinobi3:
That's my job as a Christian.

If I can help it, I dont suffer "atheists" gladly

francis247:
Reorder and re-engineer the entire universe.
The whole system is quite 4ucked up.

Be humble and in awe.
Too many people are full of opinions, with knowing less than half the facts. SMH.

If its a walk in the park, creating a universe, why dont you create one and lets see how good, pretty and dandy yours will be.

francis247:
He did a poor job.

Is there anything He did a rich and good job on?

vaxx:
like what and what. Give us the prototype

johnydon22:
What sort of universe would you prefer?

francis247:
Two words - Moderation and Equality.
A universe devoid of all forms of extremism, unhealthy rivalry, bitterness and strife.
A universe where extreme pain, sorrow and anguish is but a dream and real joy, laughter, merriment and satisfaction is a core part of our reality not only for a select few but for each and everyone.
A universe where everyone is mentally, physically and psychologically placed on an equal pedestal, if not completely, at least almost.

The parity is simply too much.
A universe of one tribe, race and religion.
A universe totally devoid of all forms of discrimination, hate and abuse, one where we would not have to tolerate each other because we're all exactly like each other.
A universe where each and everyone matters, I mean truly matter in the scheme of things.

What a better place it'll be, if us humans naturally have love, compassion and empathy.
It's comforting to know that, in the end,
the universe will be one "tribe", "race", religion, nirvana, utopia, paradise, Eden revisited all rolled into one

JeromeBlack:
Bro, imagine that both of us were walking with our wives in a foreign country and arrived in front of a high fence. We cant see what is at the other side of the fence. Your wife claims that there is a field of yam behind the fence. My wife claims that there is a field of swamp rice behind the fence. You then claim that there is a football field behind the fence.
There will only be 3 facts from this scenario

Again, I submit, fact, is a thing that is known or proved to be true
How can you then say, there are 3 facts from the scenario, when in actual fact they are 3 opinions and outright pretences from the scenario

JeromeBlack:
[s]Bro, what the heck are you saying?

Did you not go to school? Have you never done case study or scenario analysis?[/s]

i gave a scenario and then analysed it with logic.
I looked at the opinions made by the people in the case and also looked at the situation.
Then, I pointed the facts out from there.

Swamp rice and Yam cannot grow together.
You cannot have a football field and a crop field in the exact same spot.
Therefore, either 2 out of 3 opinions are wrong or all 3 opinions are wrong.

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My friend, faith in God, goes beyond intellectual case study or scenario analysis.
Not with the kind of perverse framework of limited logic your mind can muster
We learn about God through the heart rather than through the head, and by faith rather than logic
Out curiosity, who created that logic you're taking credit for?

francis247:
This is part of what I'm talking about.
It's always been my persona.
A lifestyle of not wanting to give nor receive, not really caring, not wanting to care and not wanting to care that I don't care.
My life is riddled with lethargy for everything.

Life is of very little value,
if it is a life in the dark, groping through ignorance and misery, says Swami

francis247:
Thanks for the words of encouragement.

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I've being, everyone's being here and where you are, francis

Life, looks like a yarn, a ball of wool, so we learn to knit
We cant stop the waves of life, so we just learn to surf.
Everything is going to be OK

Do your best, is all that's expected and required of you.

Ihedinobi3:
I think his analogy was good as far as it went.
I am not sure what you mean here:

"He is claiming conjectures to be facts".

"... Your wife claims that there is a field of yam behind the fence.
My wife claims that there is a field of swamp rice behind the fence.
You then claim that there is a football field behind the fence.
There will only be 3 facts from this scenario..."
- by JeromeBlack: 2:53pm

Fact, is a thing that is known or proved to be true
How can he say, there are 3 facts, when in actual fact they are 3 opinions and outright pretences

JeromeBlack, even if you, as a tree falls down with disbelief, it wouldn't affect the entire forest.
You've climbed and still are climbing the wrong mountain
Why throw spagetti at the wall, when you can just eat it
and not have a huge mess of a wall to later contend with.

Faith is the most valuable currency there is.
Without faith, it is impossible to please God,
for it behooves the one drawing near to God to believe that He exists
and that He becomes a rewarder to those earnestly seeking Him out.
so if God is to allow proof, more than, in the Manufacturer bible manual cataloguing His products, that God exists, then it robs people of faith.

Thomas Aquinas' posit, that, to one who has faith, no explanation is necessary.
To one without faith, no explanation is possible, describes you to a tee.

Ihedinobi3:
Your analogy is good but it failed to account for Faith.
Faith is a means of looking beyond the fence to see what is really there. All four of the individuals in your analogy possess it. But not all four bother to use it. For that reason, only the one who uses it is the one to be trusted about what lies beyond the fence, certainly not the one who insists that there is nothing behind the fence just because he doesn't see beyond the fence and doesn't want to.

As for your claims about the Bible, you should prove it. I care nothing for claims.
Anyone can pretend that anything they want is true. I am only interested in seeing why you think your claims are true.

His analogy is not good at all.
He is claiming conjectures to be facts

francis247:
I see you'd rather see the glass as half full rather than as half empty.
For someone like me, I wish it were that simple.
All the same, thanks for the concern. Ciao!

budaatum:
It isn't simple, francis. And I'm not gonna tell you it gets easier either.
It doesn't. You just get better at handleing it whether it's half full or even empty.

I'm going to address that long post of your's later. You need to be shown the other side of your coin, so don't "Ciao" me.
I'm going nowhere, yet.

francis, a "Ciao" bad attitude can literally block help, love, blessings and destiny from finding you
that can be part of the reason you don't succeed

When there seemingly is every reason see the glass as half empty and be negative about life,
think also of all the reasons to see the glass as half full and be positive about that
because afterall, at the end of the day, there is always someone who has it worse than us.

Francis, everyone you know, every nairaland poster, is fighting a battle of some sort, you know nothing about

Just when you think, it can't get worse, it can
and just when you think, it can't get any better, it can

Everything will be OK in the end francis
If its not OK, it not the end then yet.

No one belongs here on earth, more than you
so make bigger efforts at life, not bigger excuses
He that is good at making excuses, is seldom good for anything else

Life is and has always being complicated.
Many of us learn not to focus too much on the negatives.
Otherwise, we won't develop and being that life is short, soon will run out of time living.

You are not alone,
Isaac Newton and Albert Einstein to list just these two, were late bloomers, who made their mark in life.

Thank you PastorAIO and budaatum for your advices, empathy and neighbourly love to francis

budaatum:
MuttleyLaff, has vaxx answered one single question you've asked here?
They're interesting questions.

He hasnt ooo.

I don't mind him, asking his questions rant or rave
but just first answer the three fringing questions,
then after that, the world is your oyster.

I think something prevents him from answering them.
To be honest, I observed him employing this same tactics he does especially with you.
You were the first person that came to my mind, prompting me to say to myself, that's what vaxx does with budaatum.
It was like deja vu.

vaxx:
Muttleylaff.
Can you honestly says i have not answer your question?

You havent