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Olodo24:
his prick is too small but fertile.
I'm saying this because no matter how hard you zoom his pic, you'd never see a bit of bulge.

2face been using Yoruba drugs on girls since 1789bc

Some are a grower and not a shower nau
Growers, whose pricks are smaller when not erect
are likely to have a larger erection than someone whose prick is longer than theirs when not hard.

hahn:
So when did Jesus start to exist as an entity capable of volunteering to come and die on earth?

The plan to come and die on earth had been formulated even before creation and foundation of the earth

Jesus started to exist subsequently after the moment the Holy Spirit came upon Mary and the power of the Most High overshadowed her

hahn:
Sounds like a threat

Personally, I dont think so nor see it that way
besides, if one has nothing to hide, then one has nothing to fear, is what I'll say

hahn:
But Jesus was in heaven at the beginning of creation, wasn't he?

No, technically and biologically Jesus wasnt in Heaven at the beginning of creation.
It is the Word, in the, in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God, that was in heaven

hahn:
If you wake up after 3 days and your friends still have to go to hell for their sins then why did you die in the first place?

I am sorry. I left out the final part of that quote.
It says:
"You are my friends, if you do what I command."

JeromeBlack:
What? Adam and Eve were wearing cele white garment? Cherubim and Seraphim? Aladura?
Who knew that Adam and Eve had Yoruba Christian swag!
Bro, Jokes apart

I knew you have a funny bone
and so your great sense of humour

JeromeBlack:
Adam and Eve were ignorant of their unclothedness.
They did not have any clothes.
Stop lying that they had garments on.

Adam and Eve were immature.

"I will cling to my righteousness and never let it go.
My conscience will not accuse me as long as I live!"
- Job 27:6

"I put on righteousness, and it clothed me:
my justice was as a robe and a turban."
- Job 29:14

"Let your priests be clothed with righteousness; and let your saints shout for joy."
- Psalm 132:9

They had clothes on but lost them
and again, Adam and Eve weren't immature.

As mentioned earlier, Adam had the best Teacher, at his disposal to throw questions at in a quest to gain more knowledge.

Also Adam, evidently, was subjected to an accelerated learning process or program,
which purposeful was to allow him to think and make reflective judgment(s) concerning what to believe or what not to believe.

So Adam was imparted with enough information by God to make informed decisions concerning doing the righteous and/or right thing

johnydon22:
And God created Adam and Eve and put them in a perfect garden. The tree of life and death was with God and then God thought to himself;

"I should put that tree right into the garden"

"Jesus! What do you think? I am gonna put that tree into the garden"

"What?" Jesus yelled "Are you kidding me right now? That's a horrible idea"

"Ooooh i am going to put it" God smirked

"Common!!!" Jesus yelled and other inhabitants of heaven just looked on.

And so it happened, that God put the tree he didn't want anybody to eat from right into the middle of the garden where the only 2 people who possibly could eat it lived.

And then, he called Adam and Eve and said "See, you guys can eat from every tree in this garden but not that one"

"What?" Eve yelled

"Why did you put it here then?" Adam queried

God rolled his eyes "Hey, Hey, common guys, see, i am serious. Nobody should eat from that tree"

Do you know the first thing the b-itch did? Totally eat the fruit and gave it to Adam.

Back in heaven, Jesus and God watched with open mouth as Adam and Eve munched the juicy fruit like their lives depended on it.

And God slowly turned to Jesus and said "You do know i'm gonna have to have you killed for this right?"

Jesus chuckled at the perceived subtle joke then it dawned on him, God never jokes.

"WTF!!!"

The irony of this wryly amusing post, is that Jesus wasnt even born then
however the brilliant summation of the write-up is that:
The greatest love you can have for your friends is to give your life for them.

JeromeBlack:
Adam and Eve were immature

Are you serious that Adam and Eve were immature
or you are deliberately trying to display a wack sense of humour here?

JeromeBlack:
They did not realize that they were nâked.

And they were both nâked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.
- Genesis 2:25

And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were nâked;
and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.
- Genesis 3:7

In Genesis 2:25, they knew they were nâked and nâked to the elements
but since they had, what is akin to, spiritual/glorified bodies and protective "white garment" covering, it wasnt a problem
They werent ashamed to rely and depend on God

Getting to Genesis 3:7, they, by now, have eaten of the fruit of the tree
They are not just embarrassed and guilty by their actions, but also they had to hide
because they realised they have lost the spiritual/glorified body and their protective "white garment" covering

ifyalways:
Thanks.
I was wondering if the white whale was eyeing that position
Excuse my language, my Sunday manners are usually terrible.

Ouch, I hold you in high esteem than that

ifyalways:
Help him in what capacity ?
Is the Sanwo Olu dude married

Yes
I think to a medical doctor, if I am right

iamdrfresh:
Maybe not in stature.

Adam and Eve were made fully grown or developed to be responsible for their actions
They are completely responsible for what they did or not do

iamdrfresh:
what about their minds??

Their minds were endowed with accelerated knowledge

iamdrfresh:
they were not children
but they seemed more like inexperienced adults

Unlike johnydon22 who doesnt, I am glad you accept and agree they were not children

Adam was a grown man. He and Eve were not made children nor childish

Adam and Eve did not gradually change physically or progress to maturity as a child would do

Man's knowledge can go beyond his experience
The acquistion of knowledge doesnt all have to be experiential (i.e. first-hand)
People are known to learn from other people's experience.
Besides God taught Adam well and well enough.
Adam had the best Teacher, at his disposal to throw questions at in a quest to gain more knowledge.

Evidently, Adam was subjected to an accelerated learning process or program,
which purposeful was to allow him to think and make reflective judgment(s) concerning what to believe or what not to believe.

So Adam was imparted with enough information by God to make informed decisions
like whether or not, to choose to eat the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good or evil

Inspite of their thinking or reasoning abilities, Eve was deceived
but as for Adam, he wasnt deceived, he, Adam, deliberately decided to mis-behave

johnydon22:
If i have a cup of poison, and i don't want my children to drink it,
i'd either not bring it home at all, throw it away or keep it on a shelf where it is impossible for them to reach.

Only a terrible father keeps what he doesn't want his children to eat it right in front of them..

Adam and Eve werent children

oyeludef:
look through this thread with an open mind
and be the judge of who has been cooing like a child

You need to get your innocence and virginity back again
Be like a child.
Truly I tell you, unless you change back
and become like little children, your blinders, preventing you from seeing, will never fall off.

oyeludef:
Wat point are u even trying to make?
Because u had fake experience
then that of every other person had to be fake too?

You really want to know what point I am trying to make?
Well, for starters, it's the same fake experience when the pastor and praise worship leader gets the congregation to rise up and prompts them to begin praying in tongues.

oyeludef:
U even accused Gods generals I mentioned as being possessed by an Antichrist spirit.

I would very much love to see you paste the post that made you accuse me of saying "God's generals" are/were being possessed by an Antichrist spirit
In the absence of that, retract that comment and tender apologies for the slander

oyeludef:
Dis ur attitude can never even win u a single soul to Gods kingdom.
U have a lot of growing up to do sir. Thank you.
I mean no offense

I am patient with ignorant souls but not with those who are proud of their ignorance.

You should worry about your soul first, thats always calling a spade a shovel.

I am an easier and soft target for you, so you consistently prefer to stab at me instead of the message
Unlike you, I would prefer you point out an outright lie to me, and call a spade a spade,
instead of window dressing false hope and dreams wrapped up in tissue of lies

We grow from learning each new day, pitifully you are incorrigible
I grudgingly say you're incorrigible without intention to offend/insult

oyeludef:
Wisdom is justified of her children

Wisdom, has to do with making right and correct decisions.
Children with good sense of judgement who rightly divide the word of God, are the children of Wisdom

It is wayward children, as unashamedly being displayed so far on this thread, that dont heed the warning whistle

Brokay2908:
You know, it's interesting how someone confirms his kind of doctrine by jumping in to defend it wherever it is judged by the truth. A Pharisee and Sadducee indeed.

Some make a Pharisee and Sadducee look tamed when compared to them

1hedinobi2:
@MuttleyLaff, I thank you for the mention.

It was kind of you to recognize me on that thread.
I have been reading your writings there
and they have encouraged me because of your clear understanding of the issues involved.

It is my choice right now to not challenge people on what they have chosen to believe.
I prefer to answer questions when they are asked
or to present what I have learned myself on neutral
or dedicated threads so that those who are seeking the Truth may find it.

I have a lot on my hands with just that so I really cannot afford the time or other resources to try to correct people about their beliefs.

Moreover, as you may know, I have already discussed that issue with the OP of that thread.
He sustained his disagreement with me.
It makes little sense to carry on there even for the sake of those who may listen to him.

If anyone thinks that speaking in tongues is still legitimate today and therefore joins him, well, I'm sure that they will soon have questions that I may be able to help them with if they are truly interested in the Truth.
If they are not, trying to help them there might amount to casting pearls before swine or giving holy things to dogs.

There is a vast mountain of Truth to explore in the Bible and so much that I have been given so that my concern now is to continue to refresh myself in them and keep moving deeper into them and find ways to make them available to those who want to learn too.
So I really can't afford to participate in discussions like the thread you mentioned me on.

But again, I thank you for the kind mention and please know that I am supporting you with my prayers.
https://www.nairaland.com/1114515/christian-chatbox-sticky/646#72041750

God bless you for this humble, unpretentious and honest post

Brokay2908:
Argue that with God, not me.

You are doing the arguing with God already, you dont need me
besides I have told you and what is his name, times without number, that I dont do argues
I dont spread ignorane(s)

Your conscience pricked your heart,
thats why you couldnt resist the urge to respond to a post that hadnt your moniker mention on it
A truthful post will unsettle a guilty conscience every time!

It is only some, looking for lesser effort, lazy and indoctrinated Far-To-See (i.e. Pharisees) and Sad-To-See (i.e. Sadducees) somewhere,
that believes that speaking in tongues, especially with using the voice and/or vocal cords, is praying in some mysterious heavenly language
cc ihedinobi2

Maestro21:
Even if you wanted to contend the unknown portion how do you dribble yourself out of the no man will understand him part?

There is a lot of sensely flesh-based teaching on tongues that is always being passed off in a typical agbero fashion.
Once you see it, just realise the foundation on that teaching is shaky.

Why would anyone want to dribble of the no man will understand him part?
It is a clear and straight ahead understood passage
and bloodofthelamb had dutifully provided a brilliant briefly and clearly expressed example illustrating that verse

Maestro21:
In Jude the Bible also says building up yourselves on your most holy faith by praying in the holy ghost.
I mean, this clearly has nothing to do with anyone listening.
Has nothing to do with anyone else understanding.
The construction says it is the believers who will elevate their faith like a super structure by praying in the holy ghost.
How else will someone pray in the holy ghost if said prayer is in another language that other earthly men other than the holy ghost can pray and understand?

Lets get this straight.
So your understanding, is that, praying in the Holy Ghost equates to praying or speaking in tongues, is that right?

petra1:
Certain Spiritual principles are universal.
Mediation for example is applicable in most religion but it originated in the bible .
Isaac was the first man recorded to go to a quiet place to meditate

Gen 24:63
And isaac went out to meditate in the field at evening tide

The words medicine and meditate, comes from a common root word.
Where medicine heals the body, meditation heals your soul.
Their function is still the same, it is about healing.
Isaac, in the evening, went out to the field to meditate, to heal his soul

petra1:
The worship of jehovah still far older than all religion

Yes, this is 110% true

petra1:
Genesis 4:26
26 And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos:
then began men to call upon the name of the Lord

What is the relevance of quoting this verse here please?
Please explain the understanding of what Genesis 4:26b states.

petra1:
World religion was a result of pervasion

Yes, this is 110% true

oyeludef:
u r correct. Please sir, resist the urge to reply them.

Some of us have become so fake, that the truth bothers and unsettles us

Our work is not the harvest, our work is the seed
How can people trust the harvest, unless they see it sown?
Inside every seed, is the potential for an incredible harvest

Dont ever urge and encourage truth to be resisted
as, truth crushed to earth, is truth still and like a seed will rise again

oyeludef:
Some cycles do not even believe in being born again
and they have a lot of theories around it too,
what many of these people go and learn in seminarie is how to argue without edifying anyone
and its hopeless engaging them in any debate.

I am in the circle that, believes in being born again
believes in the REAL gift of speaking in tongues
but not in the circle that does arguing
I doubt you know why I dont do argues

oyeludef:
The kingdom of God is not in word but in power.
The most important thing is to be effective in carrying out the great commission
and if they think they are winning souls without speaking in tongues,
they should excuse those of us that are also winning with speaking in tongues.

I can't help thinking you are making this look more complicated than it necessary is
and so was going to type "Don't be so obtuse"
but then, you are already, wilfully so obtuse

oyeludef:
Like I talked earlier, the spirit of God will not strive with man
and the Bible also said the servant of God must not strive.
Anywhere u take the gospel to, if it is rejected u leave and shake d dust off ur feet.
This was what Jesus told his disciples and Jesus also practiced it wen he was rejected in Samaria.
So if someone is stubbornly on a mission to derail this thread, we can be certain such an individual isn't working for our Lord.
Man of God please avoid them and let's help those who are sincere here

"³²And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
⁴³Why do you not understand what I am saying?
It is because you are unable to accept My message."
- John 8:32, 43

Not many are aware that, the more you know about a matter, the free more you become.
But alas, the truth doesn't, always set you free.
Pontius Pilate and my dear three brothers here, on this thread are testimonies, that people prefer to believe prettier and neatly wrapped lies

Yield yourself, to be innocent and virgin again

bloodofthelamb:
Hier, I would have love to quote you phrase by phrase but I can't.
All the same MuttleyLaff have done justice to it.

Let me give an illustration.
I am Igbo by flesh, if through the Spirit of the Lord I am able to prophecy or give a word of knowledge in Hausa language (tongue).
Surely my understanding will be unfruitful because I myself do not understand Hausa but those whom my prophecy is directed to will.

The gift of speaking in tongues (languages) and its interpretation thrives where there is language barrier.

Even if you did, you would have wasted it away on him

If only our reader has a relevant understanding of the matter

Hier:
You are getting it mixed up, I am talking about speaking in tongue as a prayer.
I have quoted two verse that referenced speaking in tongue as a prayer, you are still clinging to it being a language

"I am sorry to be the one to refute this misconception shared not just by you alone but many too
Praying in the spirit, means pray in accordance to the will of the Spirit
When your spirit is in tuned with the Spirit, you are able to pray in the spirit"
- MuttleyLaff: 12:49pm On Oct 06
https://www.nairaland.com/4766070/interceding-tongues#71834303

Nothing more than, lazy persons, way of looking for easier ways to pray things
and so "speaking in tongue as a prayer" is used as a crutch

Hier:
Well, like I told Muttlelaf, I don't think it would be wise forging ahead on this topic,
yea, I think this is how far we can go on the subject. Shalom

It was wise of you, not to forge ahead on the topic
because you're standing on quicksand, instead of standing on firm ground,
and yeah, you wouldnt be going far because you would have sunk fast, the moment the pressure sucks you in

Hier:
PS: I am not saying speaking in tongue can't be used as a means of reaching out to those with other language,
what I'm saying is, I think I get it now, cause it seem you've not spoken in tongues before

bloodofthelamb, I, we all, have spoken that feigned glossa, sometimes referred to as "ecstatic utterances",
that is confused with, the real glossa, which is the biblical "gift of tongues"

Hier:
well, if that's the point, I think your case is understandable
and I might have to apologize based on your limited Knowledge or lack of experience,
you know I have discovered those who doesn't speak in tongues always attack speaking in tongues
and I believe that's exactly the case here.

Glossa and this man-made other glossa, are like chalk and cheese
They are completely different from each other

Not many, including you Hier, know that, speaking in tongues, actually, in a way that suggests or resembles a miracle,
is speaking in another ACTUAL HUMAN languages, that one couldn't speak before

Are you aware that, Paul downplays the importance of speaking in tongues
He, Paul, on record, even said, do not speak in tongues without an interpreter
This advice and guideline, is openly disregarded during gathering worships and/or prayer sessions

There is a popular saying in the western part of Nigeria,
that goes like this:
"Bi o ba nidi, obinrin kii nje Kumolu"
loosely means
"There is no smoke without fire"

There was a reason for the believers, on pentecost, to miracuously speak in tongues
and it is the same repeated reason, for the only two other miracle ocassions of speaking in tongues in the bible

bloodofthelamb:
Bro MuttleyLaff, I only have this moniker to my name. Though Hier is a brother in faith.

I know you do.
Forgive me for once thinking your moniker was one of those Hier uses
I have since realised my mistake and owned up.

The above screen grab from bible hub, agrees nicely, with the illustration in your comment bloodofthelamb

Hier:
Alright, I created that thread under one of my monikers, i.e. Godsmopol,
and the thread was littered with endless what so call

So, you are Godsmopol?
I didnt know Godsmopol, is Hier, on another moniker.

I arrived at the conclusion a long ago that you and the other two, are will-o'-the-wisps.
You were caught flat footed on that thread, that's why you jacked it in pretty sharpishly quick

The thing about the truth, is, not a lot of people can handle it
and the only people who are making innuendoes at you for speaking the truth, are those people who are living a lie

I've gone over the 3 page long thread
Now in addition to what I earlier said, and after re-reading it, I safely can say, you shared nothing but ignorance on the thread,
so I am right when I earlier said, I don't know what you are on about, trying to make out as if anything went on in there.

Hier:
I really don't enjoy having conversations with you,
and having one of its kind on the same topic is not I would have given a second thought

Painful truth, is better than a pleasant lie
Truth hurts but it doesnt kill

You need to explain yourself Hier, why dont you enjoy having conservations with me?
Why are you not into having me on a same topic you are on?

Hier:
But you know what, God can raise stones out of those who throw stones.
Paul is a perfect example.

Do you think you're particularly being persecuted?

Hier:
The verse I quote was King James Version, a popular and most recognised Bible translation,
and in case you care to use your king James Translation, it say, Though I speak.

In case, you care about what was written in the originally text, that, King James Version was translated from,
it says, "if" in the original text and not "though"

Whether it's "though" instead of "if" you want to settle for, respond to the below

"Though or if Mr O spray Hier with one million dollars
but Mr O's wife and kids haven't eaten for days,
then Mr O has misplaced his priorities"

Now, tell me, does anywhere in the immediate above paragraph, automatically mean, Mr O has a million dollars?

Hier:
Well, I believe that would be all I have to say, I would save the rest for those who have perfect understanding of Spiritual things, Shalom

Close some doors today, simply because they lead you nowhere
Old keys, wont open new doors.
Keep an open mind, but I guess you probably won't bother to because it doesn't fit into the illusion you have
You are, afterall, what you eat.

The truth is no longer hidden, but people, are hiding from the truth
because of pretending to understand something, when not

Knowledge, is learning something new, every day,
and wisdom is letting go of something, every day
Now, is the time, to let go of inherited lies

Hier:
1 Corinthians 14:2
For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God:
for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.

bloodofthelamb:
Hier I have some Chinese guys around me.
Whenever they begin to communicate in their tongue, it becomes an unknown tongue to me because I do not understand them.

Whatever I do not understand is a mystery to me.

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https://biblehub.com/commentaries/cambridge/1_corinthians/14.htm
Would you believe, I once thought the moniker bloodofthelamb, was Godsmopol/Hier alter ego moniker

Hier:
I think I won't continue this conversation anymore, you are seeking for faults and it's all a waste of time, like in the former thread.

You can't continue or not continue, do what you like.

I am not seeking faults but I do see gaping wide holes bigger than a Swiss Cottage cheese.
You expect me to roll over at your gaffs. Right?

Don't cut your nose off, to spite your face.
Don't be like those babies who throw their dummies out of the pram, just because they've been found out.

Like I said, I didn't read you sharing much, in the other thread, so I don't know what you are on about, trying to make out as if anything went on in there.

Hier:
1 Corinthians 13:1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
TONGUES OF ANGELS - MEN CAN NOT UNDERSTAND yea, men eat Angels bread

For starters, it is not "though" but it is "if"

Secondly, I doubt you are familiar with biblical hyperboles.

Lastly, if I should say:
If Mr O spray hier with one million dollars
but his wife and kids haven't eaten for days,
then he has misplaced his priorities

Now, tell me, does anywhere in that my last statement above, automatically means Mr O has a million dollars?

Hier:
Concerning where I said one we pray when we are less busy, what I meant is, we pray when we are less busy. The Bible said that we should attend to the Lord without distraction, if you are not distracted, you are less busy, I believe we close from there, bye

You are digging a bigger hole for yourself with such a comment like this.

Remember there is no short-cuts.
Speaking in tongues is not a short-cut mechanism.
It is not a talisman, nor is it a ploy to confuse the devil or demons with the content of the prayer by speaking in unknown tongues.

When one's spirit is tuned in and is in tune with the Holy Spirit, that one will know how to pray in the spirit and according to the will of God.
Do you know why the spirit groans?

Hier:
It's called tongues of Angel

I dont see in my bible where it is called tongues, where is it called tongues?

Hier:
no man understandeth him, no man can understand him, now the fact still remains, it's a form of prayer, one that's prayed whenever we are less busy or sth

Read the last sentence of your comment.
You said, one that's prayed whenever we are less busy or something.

Hier:
tongues can be prayed everywhere, just that, as Paul mentioned, the Spirit of the prophet(speaker) is subject to the speaker, meaning if he tends to get loud as to disturbing the church with with the unknown tongues, he can lower his voice, not to create a disturbance

Rhetorics.
You can fall out with yourself

oyeludef:
Please brethren let's be sensitive and simply avoid those who are simply here to argue and derail our purpose here. We are children of the most high God and what we are doing here is a threat to d kingdom of darkness

It is tantamount to criminality to want to censor.
You have nothing better to say, except for throwing innuendos.

ikechizoba:
Speaking in tongues has taken over my prayer life.

I dread praying in public cos once l open my mouth,
It keeps pouring out, even when l stopped praying for a long time, and felt the holy spirit has left me, the moment l decide to pray, it comes up after few minutes of prayer, it comes with a surge and movement l can't control,

I always find myself moving in different direction, style while speaking in tongues without control, sometimes l moan, more like singing what l don't know, I always feel dizzy and sick after such section, it take me extra effort to stop praying cos l don't understand what l say or do, but the bitter part is that l don't feel fulfilled because l feel l wasn't given the opportunity to say what l have in mind, l feel so unsure .

This is what indoctrination and bad midwifery experience causes.

Are you aware speaking in tongues, is not a quick fix or shortcut substitute to actual and outright interpretable prayers?
Are you aware there are bliblical laid down guidelines for speaking in tongues?
Are you aware of the reason, who for, speaking in tongues were and are given?

Pray to God, for the Spirit of truth to show and guide you to all truth about the matter

Hier:
https://www.nairaland.com/4136496/these-men-drunk-wine-misconception/1

From the above link, we've had this conversation
and I perceived the journey was not going to be profitable for me, so I quitted

I don't read you in that link, saying much.
I perceive you knew that you are skating on thin ice
You knew soon will be found out and so you quitted

Hier:
What does the verse mean, here is what the verse says,

1 Corinthians 14:2 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.

He speaketh (voice)

no man understandeth (the voice is not understood by any man)

he speaketh mysteries ( the voice is a mystery no one understands).

As bolded

Thank you so much for your response,
although expected examples weren't given, I am still grateful to you for sharing with us what the verse means.

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He speaketh
(voice)
>> He that speaketh Russia

no man understandeth
(the voice is not understood by any man)
>> Igbo/Yoruba/Hausa wouldn't understand him

he speaketh mysteries
( the voice is a mystery no one understands).
>> Russian voice is a mystery to them,
as no one of them understands what he is saying

bloodofthelamb:
Yeah speaking in tongue (other human language you are not familiar with) is a wonderful gift, not the kind we practice today.

Speaking what is not interpreatable.

Hier:
1 Corinthians 14:2
For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God:
for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.

Hier, please explain, in such a way, a six-year-old, could in toto understand, what that 1 Corinthians 14:2 verse means
and support with example(s) to illustrate the meaning.
Thank you.

"I can guarantee that on judgment day
people will have to give an account of every careless tongue word they say.
- Matthew 12:36

There was a report of a participating guest preacher from East Africa, who was part of a move of God crusade slash revival meeting
During one of the day's event, someone got up and started speaking in an unknown "rebobo kisalamata dereretikili" etcetera tongue.
The guest preacher, promptly stood and made known to the man with him, that he is going out as he wants to leave.

After they got outside, the guest preacher, red in the face, said to the man and others with him,
that the language the person inside was speaking in, was an East African dialect
and the words utterred were extremely too nauseating and unpleasant to be repeated.

If I were anyone, at tonight's WhatsApp rendenvous,
I will absolutely make sure, I understand and know exactly what I am saying at all the times and during the session

If any at the WhatsApp rendenvous, didnt pray in the above advised way tonight, then it means their "spirit" somehow indeed prayed,
and the spoken tongue was utterred and/or prayed without understanding, as the mind had no part in it and it was unfruitful.

I have shared about this famous person, that typed her "praying in tongues" out on FaceBook
The other day, another "speaking in tongue" person, on a separate occasion,
without being aware, was found to be actually blaspheming the Lord, Jesus Christ whilst "speaking in tongue"
Brokay2908, oyeludef, yinkbell

yinkbell:
Thanks bro.
Christians with this wonderful gift slip back when they engage in praying in the Spirit (tongues) for some times.
This is a lifetime gift to be engaged in.
Keneth Hagin's book and David Youngi Cho's book have opened my eyes a lot to this wonderful gift.
now let's start sharing our experiences as we engaged in the prayer language.... PRAYING IN THE SPIRIT.

Please share backed up with your personal examples and scriptures, what praying in the spirit is and means

Brokay2908:
Thanks for the inspiring contribution

You havent seen/heard anything yet,
you will fall off the chair, when you are shown social media ''praying in tongues'' typed on Facebook

Brokay2908:
That's a great idea.
It will run on both Nairaland and WhatsApp platforms.
Please do if you can create one or any one into this can create the WhatsApp group and indicate to us here immediately.
We can then join through a link, if possible or we put down our numbers.

Maybe praying in tongues on social media other than Facebook, is about to begin

budaatum:
You don't have to open your mouth all the time.
Sometimes, just shut up.
And yes, I am kicking your butt!

I fully give you the right to,
just dont leave bruise marks

budaatum:
Well, next time you wanna start telling me vaxx is a "pussy", you might wanna read some first!

Is it vaxx, now, who is a "pussy"

budaatum:
It's good to doubt. You owe me your bottom dollar, MuttleyLaff

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I didnt even scroll past the that comment, I mean the one I saw and responded to.
If I did scroll up, I would have since you had posted one out of Mama's numerous YouTube videos

I just read the comment made by vaxx, and thought to myself,
if vaxx is familiar with Mama's works on Orunmila, he wouldnt be saying that Orunmila isnt a philosopher

vaxx:
lol...You budaatum is attributing the biblical Jesus to Socrates and Plato .
I am assuming you are joking.
It is like me saying ORUNMILA had so many deep insight explanation to most of the issues related to life and hence a philosopher.
I actually don't think he will qualifiy unless I am being biased (though he is consider a sage but will not be taking as a philosopher today)

I can bet my bottom dollar you're arent familiar with Professor Sophie 'Bosede Oluwole also known as Mamalawo
I also doubt you're conversant with her works
or have read any of her books, especially the one titled "Socrates and Ọ̀rúnmìlà: Two Patron Saint of Classical Philosophy"

vaxx:
Jesus idea was not unique,
many religious leaders of his time across major tribes preaches similar idea.
"leave live your dammm business and follow me to go do my stuffs"

Jesus was silent on so many things.
For example, he says nothing on creations,
epistemology nko? He says he is not here to change the law,
so the idea that the people of his time understand
God was assumed, even the idea of you can not come to daddy except me the son was not a rigourous logic.
It failed flat. Permit me to say.
John 3 vs 16 should have been taking from the bible. Whoever wrote it did a bad job and likewise
On meta-ethics, I doubt he says anything.

vaxx, you're innocently unaware of the reason of and/or for Jesus

Jesus, is God, on a mission
To have anything to say on epistemology, meta-ethics or whatnot isnt the objective

vaxx:
I believe he exist, the evidence is enough to convince me
but there is no evidence that he was familiar with the rich body of work from earlier Greek philosophers
(the famous three - Socrates, Plato and Aristotle - all lived way before Jesus)..
who will have change his method or views of thinking.

Maybe you don't or didn't know, that some Greeks, came to worship, and thereafter, expressly wanted to see Jesus.
At this, the disciples relayed the request to Jesus,
but check out, how Jesus responded and what He had to say to the Greeks.
People overlook it and you wont find it explained in Sunday Schools and/or other believers' gathering

Jesus, true to His special modus operandi, immediately expressed Himself to the Greeks, at their level
and indeed spoke with the Greeks, in a way they could understand and relate to

vaxx:
Well, the bible depict him as a learned figure.

Ah-ha!
So there you are, if depicted as a learned figure,
then it's suffice to say, He would have been familiar with the rich body of work from earlier Greek philosophers

Seun:
You mentioned Stalin who was a communist dictator.
I also mistakenly thought Neitsche was one of them.

There is no “source” of anyone's morality.
Rather, there are a multitude of factors which influence your moral judgments as a person.
Asking for the “source” of someone's morality is like asking someone “what is the ingredient in your soup?” or “what is the food that you eat?”

Cmon now, are you having a laugh.
"Source" in that context means "origin" as in, where from or what from
"Ingredient(s)" in that question/context means "constituent(s)" as in, what its made of

SarcasticGenius:
I'm sorry, but that's a rather rudderless equation. M
Most top chefs are asked all the time what the key or special ingredient in their dishes are.
So why can't a person be queried as to what the central ideology in his belief system is?

Totally different things.
Key or special ingredient in dishes isn't same as origin of the dish