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FernandezPablo:
If you call that unclothedness then I have no other choice than to call you a pervert..you should be banned from this forum..

Wait make she post frontal.lol

[quote author=Yinkakolawole post=108980599]I thank GOD we are not in old testament era, GOD would av destroyed this country.[/quote

The condition of Nigeria is worth lamenting.
Politically corrupt.
Morally bankrupt.
Insecurity is at an all time high.
Poberty index and Unemployment rate is ridiculous.
Religious leaders are robbing the desperate masses.

But there are also positives to celebrate.
Nigerians dogged and never-give-up spirit that helps us some how continue to make ends meet.
The entertainment industry is al it's best and getting positive global recognition.
The IT industry is thriving even though govt continues to frustrate everyone.

So we have some things to still celebrate.
It's just 1 more year remaining for Buhari we go dey aii. Let's hope we have sense in choosing our next president.

Nauttyprof:
Smiles. I didn't judge you but only told you not to move in error by writing personal views in the name of trying to preach salvation.

You never quoted any scripture but were just writing all based on your ideology and nothing else. Tell me where going for a cross over service and praying to God will make no difference. Is this from the Scriptures? Did God tell you this that those who go for cross over won't make any difference?

Now, get it right. I only stated that you expressed your personal views which is not supported by the scriptures. Mere ideology all in the name of trying to preach salvation.

Now, check the comments based on your post and see if the comments focused on salvation or instead raised people to say all sorts against the body of Christ. Is this the salvation message you intended?

You are so good at name calling and saying all sorts so as to support your stubborn view. We speak from the Scriptures alone and it is only the Gospel that saves (this is only the power of God unto salvation. Not your personal views or opinions).

Are all church goers? Are all heading to hell? To conclude in your post that it makes no difference says a lot as to how this 'holier than thou' mentality is affecting the message you carry. Let God do His work through you and stop doing things your own way for God

While I understand his message here,I think his approach of delivery is quite erroneous.

But he does not take corrections so don't bother wasting your Pearl's.

HardMirror:
well, I understand you, but you are still chewing a lot of bones.

I hope not.

HardMirror:
sure. Wish you same

One thing about religion is simple.

Know how to chew the meat and throw away the bone.

I hope you get.

hupernikao:
Haahahaaa. I hope your assumption about me won't hold your legs one day. It shows you haven't been following my submissions on NL. If you do, you will know how much I hold in high esteem the apostolic and charismatic ministry. But let's leave that.


I pointed you to the practices seen in the scriptures, which the Holyspirit inspired. Men were saved and raised as disciples consistently. The whole of the Epistles are books of discipleship for churches. Speaking about letting the Holyspirit decide is like casting men out to do what they want in the name of Holyspirit. You are the light they see, you are the voice of the spirit they obeyed when they got saved. They must also be able to trust that same voice the holyghost used to saved them to disciple them.

Let's stay true to the scriptures. Get men saved, get men matured. That's the scriptures.

Jesus said it and taught it,
Peter said it and taught it
Paul said it and taught it.
John said it and taught it.
Same as James, Jude.

But no one taught what you are pointing at here in the scriptures. No single person or teaching taught that. Yet there are over 100 verses, teaching, explanation and practice of what I point you to. Don't you think that means much.

I'm sure you know the scriptural reference to the examples I gave.

All the same, happy new year bro.
Cheers to a prosperous 2022.

HardMirror:
I dont agree that we have to respect peoples believes. What you typed up there makes no sense and you need to know

Well, it's my choice.
And I wish you a prosperous new year bro.

HardMirror:
jeez. #facepalm

Lol like i say, we don't all have to share the same beliefs.
We can however choose to respect everyone's belief system.

dazzlingd:
Crap

Go get serious with your life.

Which part of it is crap?or you're just against prayer?

jesusjnr2020:
Sorry but this post was so good, I couldn't keep it to myself.

Thanks for sharing. God bless.

I want to believe you're not doing this because of your GO or some church promises.

Only the hearing of faith (voice of God) can give the assurance that it's more than materialism.

0Plurse:
I understand that the thread can be confusing but let me clear something, I am a practicing Muslim and I will be doing night prayer in shaa Allah tonight. Because my intent is not to pray for crossover, but to pray because It is what i am used to. I have been performing night prayer at midnight since Monday and I intend to continue until I feel satisfied that my prayer is answered, in this case that doesn't make me go against the Islamic rulings and no sin committed. But in the case of doing It for crossover, it is Bid'ah, meaning it is an innovation and a Sinful act in Islam.

I get your point albeit religiously tainted as it is.

You're against the concept of Cross-over.
But whether it is termed cross-over or not, every Muslim prays into the new year.

So calling it a Bidah is just like Boko Haram giving western education a name when Islam actually promotes education (western or not).

hupernikao:
Bro don't let us go into doctrinal exegesis of this. The church itself is a school for discipleship. That is what was taught and practiced in the Bible. I am not the one determining it and the Holy spirit isn't going to determine this, He has already determined it and given us in his word.

The church is the place for Christian maturity. Holyspirit don't initiate confusion but order. Let's follow that order he has laid in the scriptures.

Like I said we have established apriori that you don't really believe in the power of the Holyspiriit.

Otherwise you will be comfortable evangelising and letting the Holyspirit determine where the convert will be discipled.

Kobojunkie:
All this na religious bullsheet!

Make a note to abandon the doctrines and traditions of men in this year 2021, for your soul's sake.

Do you believe in the power of prayer?

hupernikao:
The moment I refer to "church gathering" that already shows discipleship. That is the essence of the gathering of Believers. To be matured. Hence my submission.

Do you know that you cannot use logic to decide this?

1. Logically Paul should not be an Apostle. But guess what? Jesus and the Holyspirit selected him to be one.
Paul was not disciples by the Apostles, infact he was disciples in Arabia. Galatians 3.

2. What you should focus on is the simple instruction to evangelise to non-believers. Allow God,through the Holyspirit decide how they are discipled.

Kobojunkie:
All this na religious bullsheet!

Make a note to abandon the doctrines and traditions of men in this year 2021, for your soul's sake.

Only number 1 and 2 are religious.
Number 3 isnt.

Hisbah21:
serves nothing

Please it serves a lot.
And I have 3 points.

1. Yes there are those that can get to a place of repentance from their home.
But there are those that need the atmosphere the church provides and the testimony of others to get to that place of repentance.

The last day of the year is significant for every human being.

You might not attend service throughout the year but some how the last day of the year makes you want to have some form of new year resolution or change of heart and the cross over can provide the right atmosphere for that.

2. Cross-over service had become a religious activity for already converted believers. So it is simply fullfiness of righteousness.

-Your parents expect you to go for cross over service.
-Your friends are all going so you dont want to be the odd one out so you also attend.
-Youre a worker in the church so you're actually expected to be there. Whether or not you want to be.

3. Cross over prayers.
While many are of the opinion that every day is the same. I believe astronomers, astrologers, agriculturists, and those who pay attention to times and seasons j understand that no 2 days are alike.
In fact zodiac signs are a proof that your birthday goes a long way to determine your personality as different from others.
Also the very fact that we have different significant seasons of rainfall,harmattan,dry season,etc shows that different days have different significance.
So clearly those who developed the calendar, having put the different seasons into considerations determined that the new year is significant.

Hence for those who determine to pray into the new year, it is a well acceptable and good religious ritual, psychological and therapeutic exercise.

That said, no matter the category you find yourself whether you recognise the cross over or not, just understand that days have different significance and the praying into the new year is not a bad idea.
Some times the prayers are answered, some times they are not. Supposedly also determined by God's pre determination for everyone

helinues:
Wizzy bobo.

I like the way dude is maintaining his stature

Where the female fans na?
Make we see dem commot their cloth too na.
Shebi na fandemonium for beach.7

hupernikao:
I love the fact that you said offline can't be displaced. I will add to that.

The church of Jesus is not decided by technology. The gathering of God's people can never become online. Mark it down. The gathering will overcome this present wave of online church. It won't stand the test of time.

As much as technology is beautiful, and has helped us more in reaching more, yet it can never take the place of physical gathering. The church is beyond just coming together to sing and hear God's word. It's a training ground for the saints. Where saints are molded for the work.

Like I told you before, military training for recruits hasn't gone online, why?. Do you see an army being trained all online without physical interaction for combat? If US with one of the best technology in the world has never neglected their off-site training for their army, how much more the soldier of Christ.

We will scale this phase, I assure you. The church will gather in unity of strength physically to reach more for Jesus.

I think you're mistaking evangelism for discipleship.

While these two often go together, scripturally they are exclusive of one another.

Jesus converted several Jews and non-Jews but didn't disciple them. He only focused on the 12. Others who followed him also benefitted.

The man with legions cast out of him is a clear example. He had only an encounter with Jesus after which he himself became an evangelist to a Decapolis.

The Samaritan woman had an encounter with Jesus and evangelised to others.

The Ethiopian Eunuch is a clear example. Philip was caught up in the spirit (disappeared) and driven to evangelise to him on his way and after guiding him to a scripture he disappeared. Guess what? That was his only encounter with the Apostles.

So Evangelism does not necessarily have to be a physical onsite event.
Discipleship may be.

hupernikao:
I love the fact that you said offline can't be displaced. I will add to that.

The church of Jesus is not decided by technology. The gathering of God's people can never become online. Mark it down. The gathering will overcome this present wave of online church. It won't stand the test of time.

As much as technology is beautiful, and has helped us more in reaching more, yet it can never take the place of physical gathering. The church is beyond just coming together to sing and hear God's word. It's a training ground for the saints. Where saints are molded for the work.

Like I told you before, military training for recruits hasn't gone online, why?. Do you see an army being trained all online without physical interaction for combat? If US with one of the best technology in the world has never neglected their off-site training for their army, how much more the soldier of Christ.

We will scale this phase, I assure you. The church will gather in unity of strength physically to reach more for Jesus.

I think you're mistaking evangelism for discipleship.

While these two often go together, scripturally they are exclusive of one another.

Jesus converted several Jews and non-Jews but never discipled them. He only focused on the 12. Others who followed him also benefitted.

The Ethiopian Eunuch is a clear example. Philip was caught up in the Holyspirit and driven to evangelise to him on his way. Guess what? That was his only encounter with the Apostles.

The man with legions cast out of him had only an encounter with Jesus after which he himself became an evangelist to a Decapolis.

The Samaritan woman had an encounter with Jesus and evangelise to others.

So Evangelism does not necessarily have to be a physical onsite event.
Discipleship may be.

Lukgaf:
Abu Abdillah, @Rashduct4luv created a thread on this topic around 2018 and it is still relevant today:

Isnt a true Muslim meant to pray every day?
So why should the last day of the year (aka cross-over) be excluded?

The grouse here seems to be that Cross-over prayers is a Christian phenomenon. But actually it's a human phenomenon.
Most people regardless of religion or creed simply pray into the new year. Whether there is a cross-over service or not.

Don't be blinded by the hatred for other religions.

hupernikao:
Well

Firstly, I don't think I am evangelizing here. I can call what happens here only contending for the faith to do my part and ensure God's word isn't handled badly at least in the spheres I am.

I am a strong believer in offsite on ground evangelism and outreach. I don't believe much can be don't on that online. Just the way you can't train a recruit soldier online for combat, you can't raise a Christian soldier same way.


Secondly, I believe that my conviction about Christianity and the practice of it is what was found in the 4 gospels in christ life and the Acts/Epistles. I also believe strongly in getting better on this.

Thirdly, I believe there isn't any perfect church or Christian. So much you will have something to always correct and be better. The church is for perfecting people not for perfect people. So I believe that even if a denomination have some contradictions from what I hold or some Bible practice, it doesn't make them unbelievers or false teachers except it is done deliberately against the lord or his church. Hence I will rather protect my brothers (all Christians) than cast aspersions to them in public sphere. Every family will do that. Right?


Fourthly.
I believe that no unbeliever should be condemned but reached with convincing thoughts to bring them to Christ. I believe and have seen even the worst of atheist becoming a great preacher of the word. Atheism, Cultisms doesn't move me not do I see them as inferior to me as human. I only desire always for them to be able to come to this light even as I am. And this is my strongest desire for HardMirror and LordReed to name few.

This I can do by preaching, pleading, scolding, admonishing, exhorting, teaching and correcting. Hence such fellow may receive it different way but a honest person will know I never condemn nor demean an unbeliever for any reasons.


Hence, I believe, that any where the name of the Lord is named in sincerity, they are my brothers irrespective of the doctrine preached, it will only be an issue of straightening the doctrine not casting out as unbelievers. There is the unity of faith.

And all these I have tried as much to hold true even on NL.

Well said.
But apparently, I should help you with your blindspot here.

You're an Evangelist and a Teacher. And this two ministries are evident in your interactions on NL.

I do hope some of your followers/audience get to experience the power of God/Holyspirit through you and this would confirm God's word and probably even attract converts.

Also, while onsite evangelism cannot be displaced, you should understand like the sons of Issachar the times and seasons.

Church, just like school and even jobs has gone Virtual.
So every engagement online even on NL where Christ is preached is actually evangelism, even in arguments and disagreements.

Phillipians 1:15-18
b Some indeed preach Christ from envy and rivalry, but others from good will. 16 The latter do it out of love, cknowing that I am put here for dthe defense of the gospel. 17 The former proclaim Christ eout of selfish ambition, not sincerely but thinking to afflict me in my imprisonment. 18 What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is proclaimed, and in that I rejoice. Yes, and I will rejoice,

Victoronah1:
the seller is not the one that deleted it but Jiji themselves. Why will they try such a thing. I freelance on some websites, you can never delete a client feedback, it's even a crime. I'm sure this has been happening. That website is a fraud on its own

Why delete a feedback, from a seller to save your image? The seller is not suspended and will never be.

According to the OP the seller was the one who committed the fraud, not Jiji.

So it's 2 ways they can address the situation;

1. Go after the seller with sactions.

2. The buyer can use Jiji and Jiji will find a way to see if all their guidelines were followed. If not,the buyer loses. If yes, Jiji is liable to pay for the damages.

Be the judge.
If you know a feedback will be a dent to your image and reduce your patronage, wont you delete it?

What you should be more concerned with is Jiji sanctioning or suspending the seller.

Amumaigwe:
Your spirit is just clashing with her's because there is no fellowship between righteousness and unrighteousness. Which of the two sides do you belong? Be your own judge.

Don't worry, in sure you'll be fine paying 1000 dollars (that you obviously cannot afford) before you can have a successful marriage. Ode

I'm telling you what we know as reality.
You're speaking religious gibberish.

Any idiot can defend their religious idol.
Even Muslims defend Mohammed blindly.

So at best you're already programmed by desperation to be a religious puppet in the scheme of things.

Stat off my mentions and I'll probably respect your Religiousity.

dvkot:
Myer

So its a man job in a marriage to make a woman successful, shame on you both

It's both their jobs.

diamondboa:
Your brain is empty . Please read through what you just wrote here. Does this make any logical reason to you ?

No vex, mr full brain with no sense.
Your existence is illogical.

KNOWMORE56:
True choice...in response to the counsel of the Wisest Being!

*. Deuteronomy 30:15 " KJV:See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil ;...
19 " KJV:I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore CHOOSE life, that both thou and thy seed may live :"



No, never imposed on anyone. Letting people know about is one of the demand on us who believe!
Failure to warn others makes me an unbeliever!

*. Ezekiel 3:11 " KJV:And go, get thee to them of the captivity, unto the children of thy people, and speak unto them, and tell them, Thus saith the Lord God; whether they will hear, or whether they will forbear ...
18 "KJV:When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand ."

Just as you have chosen to follow this instructions from the bible Muslims likewise have instructions to actually murder anyone who rejects Allah.

Peace be unto you.lol

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derecho:
I told you that I don't usually listen to her but what she said isn't wrong.Even wise woman should know that already.
Whenever you see someone agitated when presented with the truth, there's a wrong and destructive spirit in that person.
What is important is do your part even if your spouse hasn't started doing his.
Your submission/chaste character would melt any man NOT your love.If you are a student of the Bible, this shouldn't be strange to you.

Moreover, she has ,I guess, a ministry to the women. Just like a sister to sister talk.Most men won't listen to women.

I get your point.
For someone who isn't so familiar with Funke Felix, there is nothing wrong in this her statement.

But for someone familiar with her works and ministry I can get where Victoria Inyama is coming from.
Funke Felix was the same woman askind mothers and fathers to sow seeds of 500 and 1000 dollars to tap into her Grace so that their children could get married.

She's the wife of Mr Felix of Agape ministry.
She herself has continued to share how she wanted no part of ministry cos it was her husband who was called and not her.

But some where along the line she found a voice, a niche to be a voice to women even though she's not called into it.

And because if that she has continued to mislead several unsuspecting and unbridled female believers and even their men.

Truthsoldier:
Wizzy with the Big god

Naomi issa cowbell

All this lil bro and sis talks, me I sha dey smell incest.

derecho:
YES

Good.

So why does she seem to peculiarise the fact that a woman is the one that should make the man successful when it's supposed to be both ways?

derecho:
If you understand what marriage is, you'll not type the bolded.
I'm not a follower of funke but Victoria should have kept quiet.Why personalize her message? So she expects the husband to come and "preach" about her.
Every wise woman builds her home but the foolish tears it down with her hand.Victoria just showed she's bitter and disrespectful.

Since you're a man, permit me to ask;
Do you believe a man's job in marriage is to make his wife successful?

KNOWMORE56:
Yes heaven and Hell are real just as the Holy God and Satan are real, heaven and hell fire are as real as day and night...

1st I read it in the Bible but now it's even more clearly as we see the world coming to an end.

Outside the Bible I now know that the consequences of any action is going to be eternal..

That's a choice you chose to make.
Not meant to be imposed on others.