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Kobojunkie:
How did Jesus Christ "overrule" them when what He did was in obedience to the law as well?

And here, the law in regards to the stoning of sinners to death.
The so called witnesses inthe case of the adulteress woman did not see fit to cast the first stone, so why would Jesus Christ, who never witnessed the event, have been expected to carry out the sentence against her?

Please help me see this contradiction you continue to speak of. Am I to believe it is now even in the Old Covenant?

Jesus asked them a question no human could pass though. "Let he without sin be the first to cast the stone."
He did not ask that any witness should cast the stone as stated in the law.

Anyway, I grow tired of this back and forth.
It's probably for the better that you do not see any contradictions.

Kobojunkie:
Am I correct in assuming, from the above, that what you refer to as grace is nothing but man showing mercy to his fellow man then, at least directly from the first example?

Recall that Jesus Christ told the Pharisees to go and learn what the statement, "For I desire steadfast love1 and not sacrifice, the knowledge of God rather than burnt offerings.",means? That statement comes from God's message to His people through His prophets Samuel- 1 Samuel 15 vs 22 -, Hosea and Micah.

What Jesus Christ did with the woman caught in the act of Adultery, and on the Sabbath(showing mercy to those in need), was in fact in obedience to God's Old Covenant comandments/rules.
The Pharisees who focused on those portions of the law that benefited them the most missed God's core message and Jesus Christ pointed this out on more than one occasion.
The law " Love your neighbor as you love your self" comes from the Old Covenant and in the same, we find the Sabbath laws in which the people are instructed not to do any work at all on the sabbath day. However, the people were expected to continue in obedience/compliance of all the laws, including the command to love their neighbor, on that day.
Leading us then to realizing that a man is not justified in refusing to show love to his neighbor on a sabbath day. God is not pleased with any man who refuses to free another from a yoke burdening him on a Sabbath day either. By this we know that even on the Sabbath day, God expects us to love our neighbors(even our enemies) as we love our selves. No one gets a free pass where obedience of the other laws are concerned even when it is the Sabbath day.

How you came about labeling this a contradiction is what I would very much like to know more of.

I would think the contradictions are obvious.
Cos you have simply proven my point. That all the laws become futile by considering the law of love your neighbor as yourself.

Exodus 31:15 (the law the Pharisees were defending)
12 And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,

13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the Lord that doth sanctify you.

14 Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people.

15 Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the Lord: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.

Note that Jesus did not deny it. He simply overruled it by saying He was Lord over the Sabbath.

Leviticus 20:10 (the Law the Jews were executing against the adulteress woman)
The man who commits adultery with another man’s wife, he who commits adultery with his neighbor’s wife, the adulterer and the adulteress, shall surely be put to death.

fergie001:
The Local Government elections is expected to hold in 20 LGAs and 35 LCDAs on July 24, 2021.

Campaigns commenced on April 30 and is due to end on July 22, 2021.

The Lagos APC Chairmanship and Councillorship Primaries has turned violent in a few LGAs..

As shared on Twitter.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjLk4ILkkGA

Ain't this Desmond's constituency?

maxwelltony:
Hi guys

Please i really need your sincere advice concerning my relationship, we have been dating for the past two years, but honestly speaking i am not enjoying the relationship, i dont know what is wrong with my man, at times, he would travel for three month without giving me any notice, and throughout that time, his number will be switch off, for the past two years that we have started dating, he has done that for over 5times, and i am getting confuse if i am not in the wrong hand, he wouldnt give me any good excuse and i am getting fed up with him, i dont want to break up with him all because we have gone a long way, but with his attitude, i dont think i can cope again, time is going...

Please i want the whole house to advice me because i dont know how to cope again, he has gone again and dont knw when he will be coming back.

Blame Buhari or Desmond Idiot.

However, there are 2 things involved. You're either the side chic.
Or he is just trying to balance himself and prioritizing that over relationship.

Buhari'a govt ruining relationships and marriages on a daily cos almost everybody dey frustrate, forget what you see on social media.

tommy589:
Don't forget different authors wrote the books.They received instructions from God,as they say,but we don't know thier mindset or under what influence.
I chose to make do with some of the scriptural messages and don't bother with embellishments

Exactly my point.
While both authors claim to be inspired by God.
We can agree their accounts are different.

Whose account anyone believes is simply predicated upon their choice of religion with both sides claiming the other side is inspired by the devil.

tommy589:
The change in pronunciation did not change the geographical location and the existence of this great king. Archeological findings to back the credibility are out there.
I am not religious,just checking to know if my basic understanding of what I read from both holy books are still correct

Have you read the bible account on Creation of the world?
Have you compared and contrast it with the Quran?

Have you read the bible's story of Abraham and Isaac and compared it to the Quran's account of Ibrahim and Ishmael (instead of Issak)

Have you read the account on Moses (Musa) from both books?

Have you compared and contrasted the story of Mary and Jesus from both books?

Like I said, both books give different accounts of the same personalities and events.

Both accounts on Solomon (Sulaimon) are also different.
While Solomon does not control spiritual beings (Jinn) as detailed in the Quran, he was said to be the wisest of all.
The bible does not detail his death but only that his kingdom was destroyed due to his idolatry with the gods his foreign wives.

Billyonaire666:
Mars, 2074 - August 02.

Looking back at Earth, from this vintage point on Mars Colony 369042, I could finally find the missing piece of the 'I AM' Mind Kontrol Ultra.

The laboratory had enough DNA samples to populate the Red Planet with all sorts of living things and the blueprint for species that never existed, my creation will come to life. And for that, I am called God, right?

My first creation, Atom, will be designed to reproduce like there is no tomorrow, female partners genetically designed with fertility as a P1 function, very Primary for the One.

I intend to fly back to Earth soon after, with my personally engineered Spaceship made of alloy of Titanium and Gold, tough on delta-sigma performance index. On Earth, I kiss Terra, audit some cryptocurrency accounts, check and balance transactions at Metaphase Simulated 3D and check out the merchandize supported by the best Non-Fungible Tokens (NFT).

Mars, 2173 - August 01.
On my return trip to Mars, the Humanoids I created have grown so pretty and sexy that I even consider fuccking some of those pretty well-programmed feminine creations of mine. The offspring could be Nephilims. Do I really need to repeat the Noah Experience on Mars? We shall see.

With growing population, and hopelessness generated by the 'Who Am I' function in the pre-frontal cortex, I have to do something, just like we had to do same in other planes that have now supported life.

I had to design Mind Control systems, the aim is to ensure that the mind creative faculty is muted at DNA level once activated on the Ancestor DNA, it will take persistent mistakes and shock to unlock the FoolCode and realize that there was no need for a Belief System, that Religions are designed to deactivate the R & D faculties of the cortex. Without mind control, a Spirit, however it was created will become free. A soul without Religions will engage the faculty and Realize the basic truth.

Mars Earth, Venus - Just names of locations we see in the Sky System, we look at them, and not realize that someone out there is also looking back at us.

We either travel there with Spaceships or with Soul Travel - We have been doing this for eternity.

You are relentless, I'll give you that.

From your date 2074, I'm curious what tangible facts you can tell us, from the future of course.

Did Nigeria disintegrate?
Will there be election in 2023? And who won?
Did Trump win the next US election?
Did Covid variants wipe out India or even US?
Did Bill Gates cash out from Covid vaccination?
Did Bitcoin crash or did it bounce back up?

I'm sure there are more questions you can answer for us. From your astral travels and all.

jesusjnr2020:
Why Did Christ Teachings Emphasize Works Of Righteousness And Not Grace?

Christ is the Grace of God, yet His teachings clearly emphasized the importance of works of righteousness concerning man attaining salvation. Matthew 13:41-42; 19:16-19, 27.

One would think that with Christ being the Master, Lord and Savior of the church, and the one who paid the price for man's salvation, through whom alone man can be saved, that He ought to know better about what man needs to do to be saved.

But there are many so-called Christians who think otherwise, that they could possibly know better than the Master in that respect.

Some are the preachers of the gospel which teaches that the same works of righteousness, which Christ, the Grace of God, emphasized, is not a requirement for man's salvation but grace. Hence the gospel being aptly called the antichrist' gospel of grace, since it contradicts the Gospel of Christ, which is the true Gospel of Grace.

It's just a shame that one can clearly see why Jesus would deny knowing many Christians on that day, but can't do much about it, because how can Christians who make His own Gospel to be of none effect by their own contrary teachings expect the otherwise reaction from Christ? Matthew 7:22-23

It's really sad, notwithstanding we would keep preaching the Gospel of Christ which He instructed us to teach men to observe which emphasizes the works of righteousness, for those few who would choose not to be among the number of the many Christians He'd deny on that day! Matthew 28:19-20.

God bless.

Good question. Finally.
This is one of the major contradictions in the bible.

Jesus preached Works.
But Jesus also preached Grace.
In fact the issue the Pharisees often had with Jesus was that while they tried to correct him for violating the works of the law, he proved to them that Grace was more important.
When they tried to stone the adultress woman, he forgave her and prove to them that even they were equally guilty of sins which God forgave.
When they were defending the laws and challenged him for working (miracles) on sabbath, he defended himself that He was Lord over Sabath.

Also, Peter and the other apostles preached works over Grace (Faith). James 2:14-17
Paul preached Grace over works. Roman's 11:6

Which was why Peter/James and Paul disagreed over Works and Grace.
While Peter and James preached that Faith is justified by works. And without the works Faith is dead.
Paul preached that Faith is not justified by works.
In fact that mixing Faith and works means it is no longer Faith.

So if you were to conclude, what really is the bible's stand on Grace and Works?

GeneralDae:
The funny thing is when religous people see unbelievable tales in other scriptures, they laugh at them and simply dismiss them. When it comes to their own scriptures however they justify them as the power of God.

Yoube said it all.
That's the power religion wields over its adherents.
A Muslim believe Christian's are foolish to believe Jesus is the Son of God
A Christian believe Muslims are foolish to believe Muhammed is the last Prophet.

As far as a Muslim are concerned the Bible was inspired by the devil. And Christians are going to hell for believing in Jesus is the Son of God. (Jews believe this too)

As far as Christans are concerned the Quran was inspired by the devil and Muslims (in fact all non-Christians) are going to hell for not believing that Jesus is the Son of God.

sagenaija:
Islam's Strange Account of Solomon's Death
Q.34:14 states:
"When We decreed Solomon’s death, nothing indicated to the ˹subjected˺ jinn that he was dead except the termites eating away his staff. So when he collapsed, the jinn realized that if they had ˹really˺ known the unseen, they would not have remained in ˹such˺ humiliating servitude."

According to Ibn Kathir, Solomon died leaning on his stick, which was staff and stood like that for nearly a year. It was not until insect ate his stick and it became weak that he fell to the ground. That was when everyone around him knew that he had died.

Now, this was a king. Not an ordinary person. So, are we to believe that for about a year no family member or servants or officials of his kingdom recognized that he had died standing? Are we to believe that no one attempted to communicate or speak with him throughout this period?

Maybe Empiree, Lukgaf, Rashduct4luv, Antichristian, motayoayinde, mhmsadyq, haekymbahd or Realismailakabir can explain this to us.

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As at his time of death (according to the bible) he 2as no longer the king.
After his kingdom was overcome by his enemies.

tommy589:
Is biblical Solomon different from Sulaiman in the Quran

If you're a Christian clearly you've not read the Quran.
If you're a Muslim then clearly you've not read the bible.

Though both books claim the true accounts on the same personalities, their names and narratives are different.

The choice is yours to decide whose accounts you deem credible.

But them holy books are not holy because they are credible but because they are incredible.

So as a Muslim you'll likely believe the Quran's account, no questions asked.
And as a Christian you'll likely believe the Bible,no question asked.

CodeTemplar:
Grow sense.

Lool you mean you can't name a 100,000 capacity mosque even with your claims?

Kobojunkie:
Recall you mentioned earlier that sin is a choice made to disobey the teachings and commandments of God.

Well, the reason I am able to say I did not sin all of this week is because I continually chose to submit and obey the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ. It is through this that my mind and heart is trained obey God rather than disobey.

However, overtime, I have noticed that the Spirit now aids me in my obedience as I do not have to actively process the commands in my mind - my mind or heart seems to know more and more what choices to make in what situation so I am not as stressed about making the right choice as I used to be when I first started.

Matthew 5:21-30 Can you say you're not guilty of any of this though?


"You have heard that it was said to those of old, 'You shall not murder, and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment.' 22 But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, 'Raca!' shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, 'You fool!' shall be in danger of hell fire. 23 Therefore if you bring your gift to the altar, and there remember that your brother has something against you, 24 leave your gift there before the altar, and go your way. First be reconciled to your brother, and then come and offer your gift. 25 Agree with your adversary quickly, while you are on the way with him, lest your adversary deliver you to the judge, the judge hand you over to the officer, and you be thrown into prison. 26 Assuredly, I say to you, you will by no means get out of there till you have paid the last penny.
Jesus' Attitude toward Adultery

27 "You have heard that it was said to those of old, 'You shall not commit adultery.' 28 But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell. 30 And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell.

Kobojunkie:
But I already told you that I am not guilty of disobeying any of the sins listed by Jesus Christ.

So, why do you think that I have to be guilty of something regardless?

The same Jesus Christ confessed that when you Know the Truth, the Truth shall set you free from slavery to sin, this He said in addition to commanding that we be perfect(holy).even as His Father in Heaven is perfect(holy).

Am I right to assume that you mean as a follower of Christ you cannot commit sin?

Kobojunkie:
I don't understand what you mean that I am bound to sin by what is written in Matthew 5 vs 17 -48? How did you arrive at that?

Sin simply means disobedience or offense to God.
In Matthew 5 Jesus enumerated the various sins of man I was hoping you could prove not guilty of any one.

CodeTemplar:
Muslims have more population. Go and factor in the number of muslims blocking roads on Friday since you guys claim majority in Nigeria. Dangote,BUA, and few retired generals alone will easily dwarf what you calculated for Christians.

Mention a 100,000 capacity mosque and I'll beelieve you.

Kobojunkie:
I didn't commit any sin this week....instead I continously chose to obey His commandments rather than disobey (sin) .

First sin. You just lied.
Also according to Matthew 5:17-48 you are bound to sin. Be your own judge.

“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.

Murder

21“You have heard that it was said to the people long ago, ‘You shall not murder, a and anyone who murders will be subject to judgment.’ 22But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister b c will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, ‘Raca,’ d is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell.

23“Therefore, if you are offering your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother or sister has something against you, 24leave your gift there in front of the altar. First go and be reconciled to them; then come and offer your gift.

25“Settle matters quickly with your adversary who is taking you to court. Do it while you are still together on the way, or your adversary may hand you over to the judge, and the judge may hand you over to the officer, and you may be thrown into prison. 26Truly I tell you, you will not get out until you have paid the last penny.

Adultery

27“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ e 28But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29If your right eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. 30And if your right hand causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell.

Divorce

31“It has been said, ‘Anyone who divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce.’ f 32But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, makes her the victim of adultery, and anyone who marries a divorced woman commits adultery.

Oaths

33“Again, you have heard that it was said to the people long ago, ‘Do not break your oath, but fulfill to the Lord the vows you have made.’ 34But I tell you, do not swear an oath at all: either by heaven, for it is God’s throne; 35or by the earth, for it is his footstool; or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King. 36And do not swear by your head, for you cannot make even one hair white or black. 37All you need to say is simply ‘Yes’ or ‘No’; anything beyond this comes from the evil one. g

Eye for Eye

38“You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’ h 39But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. 40And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well. 41If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles. 42Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.

Love for Enemies

43“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor i and hate your enemy.’ 44But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

Kobojunkie:
Nope! Not yet... but the longer I walk this path, the more I realise it does not matter at all whether such a person ever exists.

I used to yearn for such fellowship in the beginning but not any more because I realize that even the company of sinners may be of greater benefit to me than the company of one who is synced in all ways with me. I don't know if you get what I mean.

I don't really get your meaning.
Maybe you can share more.

Kobojunkie:
The only one we are meant to trust in this relationship is Jesus Christ and His teachings.... Jeremiah 17 vs 5 declares that cursed is any man who puts his trust in another man. And Jesus Christ was clear that the only one we are to look up to is He and He alone.

Jesus Christ is intended as our one and only mentor in this relationship after all He is the New agreement , pir mediator and friend in this. So, I don't think it is right to trust people. Instead all of our trust should be in God where it concerns God and the things of God.

You may have intentionally or unintentionally ignored my question.
Do you have any one who you see as a fellow follower of Christ like you who has been taught by God just as you have been?

Kobojunkie:
I can't explain Paul and Peter... I try not to even pay attention to whatever issues they may have supposedly had because it means nothing really.... I only listen to God.. He alone is my Teacher.

Everybody else's opinions is their's to have but where the Truth of God, the Gospel is concerned, there is only one Truth... everything else a lie.

Ok. I remember you are more given to the synoptic gospels.
Quick question then;
Who else do you trust is a follower of Christ like you?
Who else do you trust is a disciple who hears the same God as you?

Afterall you can't be the only person God speaks to.

Kobojunkie:
God never contradicts Himself. His Word (the Word out of God's mouth, even Jesus Christ) is always True.
The understanding that comes from God God such that it does not violate His Law or commands, nor does if attempt to twist and screw with Scripture and its context.

God always lead us to submitting to and obeying His every teaching and commandments.

If I have the same Teacher .i.e. God, as someone else then I expect we should be in sync at least in our understanding of God's Word and commandments. When that is not there, then it is clear that such a one is not in fact listening wholly to God in all things.

Hmm. How do you explain Apostle Paul and Apostle Peter?

They often had disagreements regarding what the gospel is.

Their popular disagreement is documented in Acts 15 and Gatatians 2.

Peter even acknowledging this in 2 Peter 3:15-16

Farki:
This pressure leads to people like Uduak who kill and commit all sorts of atrocities to please others especially immediate family and in-laws.

I believe every parent raises their child to be success-oriented.
However, the approach is different.
While some parents teach their children diligence, others teach their children to cut corners.

It is important to know the difference.

Kobojunkie:
I mean I read the bible sure but I dont study the Bible like folks do. It is not a regular occurrence for me.

When I recall a story of interest, I ask and He gives me understanding and that works for.

Ok I understand better now.
But you do understand that several Christians also claim that God speaks to them.
Even on NL you can see Christians claiming God spoke to them yet contradicting one another.

So how then do you know who God truly spoke to?

Kobojunkie:
I am not a bible scholar... I am simply telling you how I honestly know these things from what I have learned from Him.

I don't understand.
You didnt learn these from the bible?

chatinent:
It's not always about the sitting room where parents struggle to remember morals.


There should be an organized family meeting regularly.


Parents are failing woefully in their responsibilities..most parents even make their children feel if they don't hustle and become rich like neighbour James’ son, they'll be nothing to write home about.

How is making your children success-oriented an immoral thing?

Perhaps you assume that all success is ill-gotten?

Kobojunkie:
Its God's kind of love and He is consistent in it, hence True.
Recall.....


I am not here making excuses for God. I simply concede to the fact that I have no authority given me by God to judge Him otherwise. I have no way of even doing that. I simply am to accept that as creator, He has that power and exercises it when He chooses.

Now I imagine that if I were in God's shoe, I would probably do worse. So I thank goodness I am not God or you all would spontaneously combust the moment you try to process unholy intentions anywhere in my programming universe.

You've answered well as a true bible scholar.

Image123:
The truth is right there in the Bible. You should not just make false claims all over and be expecting others to bring you truth. Where in the Bible did you see your claims. Let's start from there. Here are your claims in quote below, show me where they are in the Bible. Then, i will show you where my claims are in the Bible.

Interestingly you just might be right.
It's probably a product of bad preachers.

I have just done a quick study on love in the bible and no where does it say only God's love is true love.
What it says is there is no greater love than the love of Christ.

However, the bible teaches that love is what identifies a Christian right?

Kobojunkie:
1. Where God is said to love Jacob and hate Esau, I believe He said that to mean something else really. The way I see it, God was speaking of leaning more towards using Jacob, and not Esau, for His plan. That is what I believe that statement was really about and this because He still prospered Esau even afterwards.

2. God's kind of love cannot in anyway or form be compared to Man's kind of love. God can love the way man loves but His own goes beyond that to the extent that even His annihilation of all the humans on the planet(except Noah's family) is an act of love on God's part. And the same pattern He continues to exhibit unfailingly throughout scripture, even where His beloved servants are concerned.

3. Two things to note here.... consider one parent who loves her child. The same parent cuddles the child and at other times punishes the same child. In this one instance, does it mean that the love is not true? NO! The love is true since both cuddles and punishment can be doled out by a parent to a loved child. So it is love in action, and is true.

...there is only one God so no other standard to compare Him to except His own self. When He punishes His servants or rewards them when they honor Him, it is still the same God exhibiting the same Love pattern. According to His servants, He is an impartial judge and so He doles out punishment to those who deserve it and rewards those who He honors.

Punishment could be an act of love
But how can murdering your own children be an act of love?
To what end?
Did wiping out the human race solve the problem of sin and evil?

Isn't it interesting that we easily make excuses for God's acts but not for man's acts?

Kobojunkie:
What does it mean for something to be True? In logic class we are taught that for a thing to be True it has to be true all of the time. if you can find at least one case where that condition is nullified, then it is not true.

Therefore...

A) The love between parent is not True - Not all parents love their children and not all children love their parents.
To many parents out there, a child is a back up plan or insurance policy, while to others the child can be sold off to pay debts. In other cases, a child is an outright burden that can and should be abandoned when the burden becomes too hard to bear.
Some parents love their child but not all parents love their child so this love is not True even by Man's logic.
B) The Love btw husband and wife is also not True - the same logic as above applies.
C) Love between siblings is also not True.
D) Love between best friends is also not True.

So, why is it only God's love that is said to be True? Well, we know that God is True.
And we also know that God is Love.
So it follows that Love is True but whose Love?
God's Love is True.

There you go again. I thought you were being true.

You just stated situations where God's actions could not be termed as loving humankind. In the case of destroying all of humankind except Noah and his family.

God loves all the time?
Clearly you forget where God himself said Jacob he loved and Esau he hated. Even while they were yet unborn.

If God's love is according to your logic, not all true at all times, then it means it is can not be termed true love. Just like man's love.

Ctorch:
Has Life Circumstances Made you complain bitterly against God

Has Life Circumstances Made you complain bittter against God? Is what you are passing through in this life made you complain bittterly against God even to the extent of changing your name.

Let's look at an old testament figure in Ruth chapter one about a woman called Naomi. Naomi left Bethlehem Judah to Moab with her husband and two sons Mahlon and Chilon and there in foreign land the husband and two sons died-- Such a predicament befalling a woman at her age but something happened.

When Naomi began to sojourn back from Moab and if you read Ruth 1 vs 19 “ So they two went until they came to Bethlehem. And it came to pass when were come to Bethlehem that all the CITY WAS MOVED ABOUT THEM AND THEY SAID, IS THIS NAOMI?

Looking at the passage the people were moved and they began to ask questions
1. Is this how life has kept Naomi
2. Is this how Situation/Circumstances has mesmerized this woman
3. Is this how the world has turned against this woman?
4. Is this Naomi that we used to know?
5. Is this how this woman Naomi that left Bethlehem with her husband and two sons nows looks like?
Has people asked such questions to you due to your condition?
The bible said people were moved and started asking questions.

But something happened and Naomi in response in verse 20 said to them “ Do not call me Naomi ( To her Naomi meant something nice, good and noble), Call me Mara ( Bitterness) for the Almighty has dealt bitterly with me.

---Notice the emphasis she laid here “ For the Almighty has...” Her life circumstances has led her to complain bitterly against God.

She didn't stop here but she went further in verse 21 and said “ I went out full and the Lord has brought me home again empty, why then call me Naomi seeing the lord has TESTIFIED against me and the almighty has AFFLICTED me----Very touching.

Here is a woman complaining so bitterly against God due to circumstances inn her life because she thinks all hopes are lost.
Has Circumstances in your life ever made you to complain bitterly against God? Has life situation made you blame God in anyway?

Why do we have our stories only from the bible.
I was hoping you would have a relatable story of someone who is presently living with verifiable story.

sonmvayina:
Let us make man in our own image...."Let them have dominion"..does that not answer it...

I stated examples when God intervened.
Paul's conversion
King Nebuchadnezzar's "conversion"

Abd several other biblical examples where God's intervention according to the bible tipped the scale.