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We use .7 gauge to make gutter for the woodwork in Pic 1 below.

Pic 2 - 4 had concrete roof gutter system.

n3xt:
Pic 1 - 4: Hidden Steel Roof
We introduced steel gutters which take water directly from the roof into the water outlet. The aim is to ensure water is not having any contact with the slab. The steel was coated with antitrust and coal tar.

We also clad all the wall with aluminum sheet.

n3xt:
I’ve done a couple of flat roofs using wood, steel, concrete slab and recently exploring the option of galvanized polystyrene necked panels with Zifax Global Services

There are so many way to achieve this but here are examples of the things we’ve done.

You can check tower for .7 gauge roofing sheet. That’s the only place where you can get complete gauge and you can tell the difference when holding it.

Pic 1 & 2: Hidden Roof
I fought the architect very hard on this design because the design didn’t make room for maintenance but he was insistent.

Pic 3: Galvanized Polystyrene by Zifax being considered for flat roof slab installation.

Pic 1 - 4: Hidden Steel Roof
We introduced steel gutters which take water directly from the roof into the water outlet. The aim is to ensure water is not having any contact with the slab. The steel was coated with antirust and coal tar.

EgunMogaji2:
I have an upcoming build that has a hidden roof on all four sides.

Please educate me on how you’ve done it. Please with pictures if possible.

I’m clueless on how the water runoff on the downward slope will be handled.

Also, is .7 gauge roofing material in the market?

Muchas Gracias.

I’ve done a couple of flat roofs using wood, steel, concrete slab and recently exploring the option of galvanized polystyrene necked panels with Zifax Global Services

There are so many way to achieve this but here are examples of the things we’ve done.

You can check tower for .7 gauge roofing sheet. That’s the only place where you can get complete gauge and you can tell the difference when holding it.

Pic 1 & 2: Hidden Roof
I fought the architect very hard on this design because the design didn’t make room for maintenance but he was insistent.

Pic 3: Galvanized Polystyrene by Zifax being considered for flat roof slab installation.

omanzo02:
The water run out is almost similar to what you see in the pic, in combination with bitumen roof cover against moisture and water leakage and damages to the concrete roof.
Pic 1.... I spread granites on mine to protect it from direct sunlight on the bitumen sheet but is not compulsory, pic 2. water run off pipe.

Nice idea. Especially here where there are too many fake roofing felt.

The original felt are very expensive.

cjfbn:
My people,
My house has gotten to decking level, I intend to stop, move in and continue later.
My builder is advising me against using POP because the decking us exposed.
I really want to use POP, is there anything I can do?

I have something pretty similar tho and I’ve not had any issues with it. I did nothing on the slab too.

Since water will always find it’s level, I had like 3 degree slope on the longer side of the roof slab and that seems to take care of the worries.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ-suMH1C4E

Dennis3D:
I will advice not to use POP at this time since the decking is fully exposed. Water will definitely find its way. Covering the staircase area only is not a guarantee that water will not pass through the decking. And POP and water are just not always in good terms. Best you can do is cornice round the decking should you really need it and then plaster the decking. When you complete the roofing. Do your POP and enjoy it once and for all.

My opinion though

Leezah:
I love this is this a personal or rented apartment.

It’s a personal residence. A 7 bedroom duplex sitting on about 3 acres of land.

I was in Ondo to develop a superfluous 4 bedroom duplex on 1 acre of land.

qdlvy:
Your questions have been addressed on pages back ad nauseam.
I don't live in Naija but I have been to a few houses in Ondo that have landscaping instead of concrete all through. Besides, your questions miss the point. The point is why is landscaping not adopted more than the alternative being discussed. Pictures I posted is to show examples of what can be achieved with landscaping vs. concrete. And, it's not rocket science like some people will make you believe. It's just not common practice.
Thanks to a one-minute Instagram search, attached is an example from Lagos.

Yes to Ondo.

I've never designed or built a house without secretly stalking the fabulous ideas of other houses within the locality of the proposed development. I saw this while working in Ondo state.

Leezah:
Do you have a soft copy? lovelyakpe@gmail.com

Yes but it’d be later. I’ve already stepped out for my daily bread

EgunMogaji2:
You see this is why I’m having an onsite manager at my estate.

Imagine the effontry

In my estate, a tenant cannot move in if the landlord is defaulting to the HOA. The tenant and his/her spouse will be interviewed by the estate management team before they can even pay the house rent. They’ll submit their CVs and an interview will be scheduled.

To pack out of the estate, the tenant need a clearance letter from their Landlord and to obtaining this means they’ve cleared all their outstanding dues.

boyka1:
This is the estimate a carpenter gave me for wood work excluding workmanship. I sincerely think his estimate is quite doggy. Please house make una help me.

this is broad daylight robbery!

earthrealm:
.great design

I love these high windows, am wondering how u secure it from being an easy access point for robbers?
How do you intend to cool the game room in the attic

Whats your projected cost to finish the build?

Projected Cost to Finish: N40m

Securing Windows: We already made provision for matching burglar bars to be installed on the ground and upper floor for that particular window and others.

Cooling the Game Room: There's provision of a 25mm ventilation gap along the eaves. We are also making provision of 50mm air gap between roof insulation and a vapour control layer. Then, there's plan for a vent extraction fan discharging to outside air.

Sigh!

Abolarin91:
Bearing capacity shouldn't be the work of an architect

Yes, it’s not his job but he needs to be well informed everything important about the land before drawing the plan.

This is one reason I respect ihebrooke (Nairaland architect) so much. He always ensure he obtain all the relevant information before designing for me.

coldcandy:
This thread is for sand and cement matters. Abeg, tell us how these scents can give us less costly builds.

@Macsjebs

This is what happens when you target a wrong market.

Your marketing messages will not resonate with them as it did not capitalize on their pain points (how to save BIG on building projects).

This type of marketing will only make you lose potential customers and waste a lot of your marketing nairas.

Change tack.

kingzsoul:
Please house. I want to know if i can have my master bedroom as a penthouse in a 3bedroom bungalow on a waterlogged land cos my architect is waiting for my decision.

Your architect should know better. He must have seen the land and know the bearing capacity of the soil.

SmartProf:
From the post, the basis for classification appears to be based on residential areas being categorised as rich or poor . Meanwhile in some cases, rich people build or live amongst people in poor residential areas and vice versa. How will that be sorted?

That makes them smart rich people.

Abolarin91:
That is it o, I Iove Ibadan for peace but for work mba

Well

You can either make a difference or make an excuse. You cannot make both.

I was in Ibadan for a project in 2018. I created my own world by working with the younger generation.

During that period, I built the largest young leaders network with over 1,000 members in the University of Ibadan and UCH/ABH. I was able to work with young, vibrant and innovative minds throughout my stay.

There’s a lot of potential in that city. You just need to understand how to unearth it.

Beside construction, I’m also investing heavily in the younger generation. I believe we can all make a difference and there’s hope for Nigeria.

_____
I was raised in IB tho. I rep IB.

EgunMogaji2:
The fence work alone with the metal gates clues the project in as one of international standards.

I’ll be passing by there in about 30 minutes and will try to take pics.

The project was executed by Cappa and D’Alberto and not Julius Berger like I stated earlier.

It’s solid.

rmx:
Ok , hope he does glass cladding for lifts also

Will try to check it out , don’t actually stay in ib myself

Most of the quotes I have are from lagos people anyway

Frameless Glass? Scenic Glass?
Once you have your windows schedule/specifications, they’ll deliver to your design specification.

Lagos is the commercial centre of Nigeria. The reason most experienced artisans love LAGOS. When I bought aluminum materials in Ibadan few weeks ago, it was like I bought a whole complex. They couldn’t fulfill the order in 2 days.

In fact, I couldn’t get an order for just 10 sheets of 5mm glass fulfilled until we got to Iwo road.

The guys who’ll do such project need to be where it’s happening everyday.

EgunMogaji2:
An impressive and immaculate structure. Of course

Sir, you can foresee the future

I immediately knew something is different when I saw the project.

rmx:
Not seen what Jb did at afani

But send me his details , is he based in ibadan ? Will chat u up later

He’s Lagos based (Aluminum Village to be precise). Just left Ibadan on Monday. He came to do a kobo kobo project for me in Ibadan

The structure is too simple to notice it.

+2348023429122 is my Mobile/WhatsApp number. I am Brabus.

Good

rmx:
Absolutely , I personally feel ibadan should get more traction , add to all you have said the 3 lane express and railroad for trains after completion

It might take few more years tho but I can see new dynamics and changing landscape.

I can recommend a guy though in the aluminium village with vast experience in what you’re looking to achieve. He’s not a contractor.

If what Julius Berger recently delivered at Anfani Junction seems more like what you’re looking for, I think I have the guy.

rmx:
True but wherever I make money is blessed

Well done!

A lot is happening in Ibadan recently. I really mean a lot.

If the state governor get it right, why might kuku leave the overpriced Lagos lots to go and buy better lands that requires less to build in Ibadan.

rmx:
I am in need of quotes for supply and installation of gray powdered coated aluminium ebm curtain wall system and frameless glass for a commercial project on 3 levels , nigalex could also be considered , external glass will be 6 or 10 mm untempered , internal is 10mm tempered , it includes collapsible doors

While I have several quotes already , been following this thread for a few days and I feel I might be able to get better in terms of quality and pricing , must be people with verifiable projects preferably commercial . Location is ibadan

Ibadan is blessed.

The following still fall under basic finishing. They fall under kobo kobo project.

The kitchen cabinet is still under basic.
The wall tiles in the kitchen is luxury
Sold by Fortune et Feveur, Awoyaya, Lagos.

hotboss:
Thanks for your response. What do u mean by raised bungalow . And basic finishing. Do mean like the old houses I see everywhere?

Raised Bungalow is a bungalow with a penthouse.

*Basic Finishing* means nothing luxury. Just good enough. The house will still have parapet, stone-coated roofing, casement windows, good american panel doors, pop ceiling but toilet and kitchen walls may be have half tiles or selected areas only, kitchen cabinets won’t be luxury type, simple burglary etc.

It’s not an old school design

Pics below are sample of basic finishing.

hotboss:
Hello please..

Can 15million build a duplex. With a 1bwsroom behind? The duplex should be either 3bedroom or 4bedroom

Duplex? NO!
Raised Bungalow? YES! with basic finish.


This assumes you’re not doing a raft foundation.

Thenext:
Good evening my Oga dem,

Please like how much one can budget for decking of 330sqm.

CC
n3xt
rotecch77
Dennis3D
Egunmogaji

I can’t give any figure until I see your structural drawings and know your build-route (DIY owner-build, contractor managed or something in-between)

«««Are You Building A New House? Read this tips »»»

- If you are sticking to a tight budget try not to over indulge in luxury items at the cost of more important features of your house.

- The bigger it is, the more expensive it becomes. Each square foot costs money and if it just going to be superfluous you should think twice about having it.

- Go for cheaper options of certain items. For example, instead of actual granite top you could opt for a tile lookalike. Whilst the finish isn’t quite as deluxe, it still does the job and will save you a couple of naira.

- Ask Many Questions? This sounds simple, but if something does not seem right at the time, it most likely isn’t – don’t be afraid to ask any questions about it, it’s better to be safe than sorry. You could even ask an outside and impartial source.

- Remember your priorities - Know where to save and where not to bat an eye. If your foundations are dodgy, then the whole building is doomed.

- Always remember that things will most likely go wrong during the construction and this may mean that schedules have to adapt. Pray for sunshine throughout your house build!

- Imperfections are inevitable but they can more often than not be fixed; just ask.

- Record everything. Write down everything you agree on in a very simple and understandable manner, if it’s just spoken words it can be interpreted differently by both you and the builder. If you write down everything and keep a detailed record of all agreements you can minimise disputes.
Valley gutter is not the same thing as roof gutter (water collector). Write in your own understanding Roof Gutter - The white thing they put by the roof mouth that prevent rain from falling down

A man got quotes from 2 reputable roofing companies. One had rainwater water gutter system and all the roofing materials. The other had only roofing materials and subtly mentioned valley gutter.
The man went for the cheaper quote believing the two companies are quoting for the same thing.

- Keep everything; receipts, sales slips, model
numbers, chat messages, phone call records. This might sound too much, but it will be required if anything were to go wrong or disputes were to arise.

- Make sure you have a detailed plan of everything you require from the house build, it will allow for a much smoother construction period and a far better result. No builder have x-ray vision.

AZUH:
I don’t have it again but I will ask his boys .

Ok. Thanks.