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raymondFirstborn:
Oga, that N3m won't finish a 3bedroom bungalow. It won't even do for average finishing.

Your calculations are based on the wrong parameters.


The average sqm(floor area) for a typical 3bedroom should not be less than 120sqm.
So how did you get your 70sqm for tiling.

This is what the cost should look like.

For a Kobo project

Let's say

Foundation- 750k(no German floor)

Blockwork -

2500blocks - 2500 x200 = 500,000
Sand. = 1trip of 20tonnes (40k)
Cement = 35bags x 2550 = 90k
Labour =. 2500 x N55 = N137,500

=N767,500
Lintel work + reinforcement(carpentry + iron Bender + casting) = N200,000


Blockwork - N967,500


Roofing - 800k without parapet (Kobo Kobo roofing)

N2.5m- total

Windows and doors - 500k(average)

N3m . This is how far N3m can go.


Floor Tiles - Let's 120sqm
120sqm x 1200 = 240,000
Tiler - 36,000
Cement and sand 100k

Let me stop here..


EDITED***

I didn't add engineers fees or supervisors fee, I am assuming there's no engineer or supervisor involved.

n3xt:
Yes, you can and in a state like Lagos state, you need to be double-sure before you buy. Don’t buy any land or property because it’s cheap!

In 2011, a client contracted us to conduct a geotechnical soil test on a plot of land in Ogombo, Lagos state.

After spending over a million on the test, he ended not buying the land.

One of my ogas here called it “Spending thousands to save millions.”

Ogombo Soil Test:
https://www.nairaland.com/687022/building-luxury-block-flats-day-to-day/22#up

Invest wisely.

Just last weekend, I was at a site in Badore and we were discussing the 4th Mainland Bridge Project and I can hear some people praying and wishing the project won’t happen.
https://www.nairaland.com/3129752/4th-mainland-bridge-houses-demolished

It’s Well! Charting your land and obtaining land information will save you from worries “Lagos no be ”

Zimri:
10.

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These guys can live to be over a century old. You’d think by that age, they’d want to indulge in as many meals as possible, but these reptiles can go without food or water for up to a year in some cases.

Abolarin91:
Sir, is it possible to chart a land before buying/survey?

Person2person:
check my signature for quality locally fabricated doors

babeline:
Done. I didn't get a reply from you though (the mail). Kindly resend

michlins:
sir please, some pictures I have are above the 4mb limit of Nairaland and I'm limited by the inability to share most pictures. I have samples of gates that range from 150,000 to 700,000 depending on the materials used. The most expensive ones are made with wrought iron while the economic ones are made with 2mm charka plates. If my methods doesn't impress you, kindly suffice me with ideas on how to grow.

For the small amount of time I have been in this thread, I have learnt a great deal and I'm still open to learning more. Thanks for your time

kopell:
Get in touch with brand name spyder880 he will handle everything to your satisfaction, he is a tested and trusted on many projects here over the years with 99.9 % pass mark. You can check out his profile before you make your decision.

babeline:
Sorry I realised the door I was talking about looks nothing like the first picture but I have the exact door you first posted. Picture is attached. It's a Spanish door.

The other door I mentioned is just plain hardwood (Brazilian) and like I earlier said you would need to get a carpenter to create the matching frame, carve out handle point & get you accessories. Picture is also attached

babeline:
Sent to you via mail.

Thanks

Dubemcapital1:
My Brother they say make I off my mic na.

kopell:
Good tip but some of them are questionable, like your plumber 3,000 or 300 houses In Lagos ? I don’t think even Lagos state government build 3,000 apartments yet this year
#4?, #7, #12?. In total thanks you for the tips � For beginners sha.

babeline:
Kindly check out my thread for some imported door samples

https://www.nairaland.com/6031116/quality-hardwood-mdf-security-doors

I also have a replica of the first door you posted but the type I have (Brazilian hardwood) does not come with the frame & door handle. A carpenter can make you a matching frame for the door and get you the accessories

n3xt:
Not just the cost of materials.

I’m currently doing a small build for a friend in Ijebu Ode and his bro was like we’ve spent over 1.4m on foundation.

I just smile!

Here are some of the things that determines your build cost:

One would ordinarily imagine that a build in Ijebu ode should be very cheap na�

1. Unregulated Building Material Price

1 Volvo Truck of Sharp Sand in Ijebu Ode is between N33k - 35k. That’s crazy when compared to the cost of sand in Lekki.

The same sand cost 17k in Ibadan and Sagamu.

Now if a contractor in Ibadan is asked how much it’ll cost to do foundation of a 3 bed bungalow, he might advice based on his environment without considering the variables.

2. Land Topography

It’s very wrong to give an estimate without a physical assessment of the land where the project will be executed.

3. Shady Contractors

I don’t know how to explain this. Some people just want to jump on a project at all cost. The easiest way to know this is to ask them to break out the cost as follow (let me use layman terms):

Substructure/Foundation -
Digging, blinding, block work, sandfilling, DPC

Superstructure -
Block work, lintels, columns and beams

Roofing Sheet/Woodwork -

M&E including Electrical Wiring -
Plumbing, Electrical Pipe work and wiring

Plastering -

Ceiling -

Toilets/Bath fittings -

Wall/Floor Tiles -

Window/Burglar Proof -

Doors -


These are reasons why most projects get stucked half way. It’s simply because the owners were wrongly advised.


I love the way @DubemCapital1 lay out the costs but please always add that this is just a guesstimate. The final build cost will be determined after physical site survey is carried out.

saydfact:
Sir Sir, you wouldn't know because when I was there, I didnt know tooo... Materials are expensive now oooohhhh

modified: is there anything like 'FTC on Page 1515' ?

saydfact:
I've been away for weeks and I come back to meet this discussion...... CAN 3M BUILD A 3 BEDROOM FLAT

OK - My View? - EVEN IF SOMEONE GAVE YOU ALL THE 9" and 6" BLOCKS NEEDED FOR FREE........ It still won't be enough to finish it...


Drops Mic.

SanniOluwafemi:
Good afternoon,
Maplewood Furniture can provide you quality locally made doors that will meet best standard.

Check our work on https://www.nairaland.com/3555646/every-home-deserves-tastefully-furnished

Abolarin91:
To see how it is being used ni sir

Wyloutproperty:
Thanks man.

Though we prefer to use aluminum metal ceiling or composite ceiling tiles for our corporate clients we recommend plaster board for our cost sensitive clients. We consider safety, utility, acoustics and aesthetics.

Pictures 1&2 are plaster board ceiling from way back in 2011, picture 3 is perforated metal ceiling tiles.

While picture 4 is pop cast ceiling from a property we acquired for a client. The holes were from a little leak in the roof some installations. We are stripping off the entire ceiling and replacing it with metal tiles. The property is being renovated to a commercial property.

https://www.nairaland.com/1082585/2020-building-construction-office-fitout

Dominionng:
1. They have their names boldly written on them, with s/n and date of production at the edges, while the China boards are mostly nameless

2. Comes in single sheet, while the China boards are mostly double packed with a paper tape to bind them. See image 1 and 2

3. You can feel the strength by lifting both

4. Site test: Cut a small piece of both(like 1ft by 1ft), dip in water for like an hour, one comes out useless, while the other remain solid, can be dried and reused.

EgunMogaji2:
https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/chinese-drywall-problems-health-effects-32402.html

Dominionng:
I repeat no Good plasterboard is sold for N6,000 per sheet, definitely China board. Great Omegason sells lots of nameless China boards, they also sells good boards. Tell Mr Saheed(Sales Manager) of Great Omegason Diego sends his regards, but insist on Knauf board when next you visit.

Dominionng:
No one will use your wet hanging plasterboard in places like this, what we use is dry construction(Plasterboard with grid). Cost of wish almost double that of POP precast.

Abolarin91:
Pls where in Ibadan, I will love to visit while the plasterboard is ongoing, I visit Ibadan frequently

diordaves:
Cornice is included in the price if your preferred design incorporates cornicing. N4000/sqm is all in all to deliver your choice design. Nothing more, nothing less. POP is cheaper by about 35%. I've done the numbers.

Dominionng:
Now you know boss. I agree with the fact that using plasterboard to create designed ceilings is faster and less messier compared to POP precast, but cheaper is pure fallacy, except of course if you want your plasterboard to be drilled to your already installed noggin to create a plain flat ceiling.

I'm an advocate of Plasterboard over POP precast for designed ceiling for clients who can afford it, and in over a decade, I've done both for a lot of clients here, biko don't confuse these people.

Plasterboard for ceilings is in two ways

1. Plasterboard with grids: You use the galvanised tracks and studs to create the design carcass, then you clad it with plasterboard. This same system is used not only for ceilings, but also for partitions and general dry constructions. This isn't cheap! Least @ 7k/sqm

2. Plasterboard without grid: This is the most common in Nigeria. Same thing with wet ceiling(POP precast ceiling), the only difference is that plasterboard replaces ONLY the precast pop boards.

Cost: N7,000 per board covers 3.6sqm, when a bag of POP cement will conveniently produce same sqm of POP boards.

The installation process remains the same. Same materials needed. Plaster, mesh, iron range and all... This least @ 6k/sqm

rotecch77:
@n3xt. Check the size of the board very well the price is far more than 6000 per 1.2*3.6.12mm

Check jiji and jibowu mkt fir the price.

1.2*2.4*12mm is around 5500-6000
1.2*3*12mm is around 6700-7000

1.2*3.6*12mm is around 8000-9000

There are many brands.

Badgers14:
Which state are you currently working at the moment?

Focusmind:
Impressive!!! I love it when things are expressed in numbers. We may have a deal on this job once we get to that stage.

Plasterboards brings out the finest details in ceiling. Far neater and detailed when compared to POP.

Thanks for this analysis.

davodyguy:
But it's something you do and also install for people?

Also, based on the calculation you did, it came up to about ₦44,500 to fix a 12.96 and ₦52,000 for POP