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davodyguy:
Interesting

Do you have any image of the once you installed recently?

No! I no longer keep construction pictures like before.

Focusmind:
I am thinking of using plaster board for my ceiling but have the impression that it is far more expensive than POP - But your analysis here is showing that it is quite competitive compared to POP - In summary, is it cheaper than POP? Overseas, they hardly use POP - They use boards mostly.

Far, far cheaper.

Let’s compare Apple with Apple now.

Let’s assume we want to cover a room (3.6m x 3.6m) plain design with ceiling rose at the center.

Using POP
POP - N4,000/sqm (material and labour)
3.6 x 3.6 x N4000 = N51,840

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Using Plasterboard
Each board is 3.6sqm
Total coverage area is 12.96sqm

That means we need 3.6 boards to cover the room.
Call any supplier online and ask how much is a plasterboard of 3.6m x 3.6m x 12mm

N6,000 x 3.6 boards = N21,600

Buy 1 bag of POP plaster for cornices, screeding and installation - N5,000

Let’s make it pro!
Buy angle, beed and screw etc for the installation. Each is sold at N450
Buy 20 pcs = N9,000

Plasterboard installation is done 400 per sqm. Multiply by 12.96sqm = N5,200

Screeding is done shikini naira pere. N3,000


So pros in the house, what have I missed out? Please kindly add it.

Let’s stop scaring people. Plasterboard is cheaper than N4,000/sqm POP

I just completed over 1,000sqm installation so I know what I’m talking about.


The most interesting part is this can be achieved in one day once your materials are ready.


Edit
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I noticed I omitted the cost of casting the cornice and other small POP installation materials. Let’s add N7,000

It’s still not expensive than regular POP.

megacontrol:
Thanks man.

Could it have been used to go around (down-across-back up) and cover that internal beam shown in your third and last picture?

You can achieve anything you want with the board.

Wyloutproperty:
we have been using plaster boards since 2010, they are easier and neater to work with, and have no issues. Check out our thread since 2012

https://www.nairaland.com/1082585/2020-building-construction-office-fitout


We are the Engineer's engineer, We are a team of Materials, Civil and Geotechnical Engineers.

Good job!

sako28:
Welcome back bro,
What the height drop for this plastering board? As you know POP always claim almost 2 coaches of block.

Thanks
Sako

The picture below shows how close it can get to the ceiling noggins.

The 2nd picture show it’s less than 7in drop from the slab so we were able to achieve 3.1m headroom.
You can see the boards didn’t drop beneath the structural beams.

megacontrol:
How does the cost compare per sqm with PoP?

A board of 1.2m (w) x 3m (h) by 12mm thickness with total coverage of 3.6m2 sells for N6,000

10mm thickness is lesser and there are more expensive ones.

rotecch77:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K0299uG_GE
The precast is still In used in few part of this world, it’s cheaper a bit to the already made board,
But to make work faster, neat, longer size cut/ shape, very neat work place , already made board is the best.

Yes. These guys and Nigerians are the same blood.

A stronger argument will be that locally made POPs are stronger than plasterboard BUT if it can work in public buildings I don’t see why it won’t wirk in small builds.

diordaves:
For major jobs like ShopRite you mentioned, yes it would be scandalous to use pre-cast POP as the job will take forever.

However, for hotels, castles, palaces and stately homes pre-cast POP is the way to go. You need that organic design and mould ornament handcrafted artistry that comes with pre-cast. This you will struggle to achieve with plasterboard. To most people the symmetrical plasterboard design might be a drawback and even boring.

Thanks sir. I understand your point but all the pros know better. They just won’t say it.

There can never be anything more organic or complex than the dome in Silverbird galleria.

Plasterboard was used in the whole building. Even most of the partitioning were Plasterboard. I worked there during construction and after so I know what was done.

Most of the ornamentals (cornices, skirting, dome etc) are sold in Jibowu.
Those design elements are sold separately In meters and in whatever form you want it.

The whole traditional POP idea was to make things cheaper BUT I’m not really seeing that happen.

Just go to Jiji and type cornice and see the result.

No matter the size of dome you want, you can always have it.

Ask any professional in here if they do domes traditionally

EgunMogaji2:
We use sheetrock in the USA. The mess that Naija POP makes will never be acceptable there.

For my current build I will not do the traditional POP due to the mess. Unless they can manufacture the panels offsite. It’s crazy messy.

My job is not to confuse anyone but to work together with everyone to demystify construction in Nigeria.

We are doing a lot of things wrong and it has to stop so that we can make meaningful progress in the construction industry and make life easier for everyone.
This makes people out there think we don’t know what we are doing.

Will anyone use a precast (traditional) POP in a mixed-use development? The answer is NO!

By mixed-use, I mean a place like Shoprite or Four Point Sheraton for instance.

On this one, I won’t be able to say much but if you really want to know more. Do your findings!

Go to Mushin. Talk to direct suppliers. Let them recommend boys for you and ask questions.

Dominionng:
Good plasterboard for ceiling is far better but not a cheaper alternative to the regular POP precast ceiling.

Wow

I really don’t know it’s more expensive. My conclusion is based on the following:

1. It saves time than regular POP.

2. You don’t mess up your clients’ property with POP stains. I hate those things.

3. It’s easier to estimate the quantity you need. Even a layman can do that.

4. It’s the industry standard. I’ve search far and wide and I’ve not seen oyinbo man doing ceiling (POP) the way we do it here in Naija. Maybe it’s innovation sha.

5. A single board which covers 3.6m even at N10,000/board (board sells lesser than this) is still cheaper than N4,000/m2 POP. I know the installation, accessories and screeding part is there BUT that’s nothing when compared to the huge savings on time, quality and the stress it took away.

Badgers14:
Do you mind sharing more pictures of the project completed with the fire rates plaster board?

These are regular plasterboards from an old project (The Reserve).
Unfortunately I don’t keep pictures like before I’d have share recent pictures. I recently used it in an event hall.

rajput4real93:
How much is this? And what is the dimension of each unit?

I’m not a seller though.

The price varies between 5 - 10k or even more depending on size and quality.

It comes in 1.2m (width) by 2.5m, 2.7m and 3m height.

What I have in the pic is a 3m plasterboard.

Takoro13:
any contact to get this won't be bad

You can get this in Jibowu, Lagos or check online.

gordonbarrett:
Apart from POP, what other options are available, that meets fire hazard and soundproof requirements, with good aesthetics and still some what affordable?

Fire-rated plasterboard are cheaper alternative. I’ve used plasterboards on so many project without issh.

You can as well look into suspended ceiling which is also a very good alternative.


Suspended Ceiling https://www.facebook.com/NextHome.Builders/videos/1343903435758506/?vh=e&extid=oWyEDjpQZTk2HuiO

EgunMogaji2:
A court what?

Someone once described a courtyard as a confusing element. That one ought to make up his mind if he wants to be inside or outside.

But I digress. Again.

Ok. I made up mind to achieve the following:

- bring the outside in
- maximise natural light
- make the most of my surroundings
- add some wow-factor design to my build

I made my mind to achieve all these from the comfort of my couch. It’s not everyone who’s in love with a 4 wall, 2 window traditional build.

Dubemcapital1:
If you need the plan pls ask any of the arch in the house to make design for you I have given an example of the room size you asked of.

Cost control is not what everybody knows.
Like I said earlier if anyone wants to handle such in the state am currently working now I will assist the person for free, I think practicals will convince us all. I rest my case on this.


Thanks

Dubemcapital

Be like say I will need epp

In this case, I believe size matters.

My open plan NextHome office (90sqm) has used up over 1100 blocks and we aren’t even at lintel level.
30% of the project is still at plinth level, 20% at sill (window) level and we’ve used up 600 blocks. That excludes foundation.

Configuration:
2 toilets
1 kitchenette
Courtyard
2 large office

I was forced to go and check if my supervisor has been cheating me. I’m self-supervising this though.

I’m looking at additional 1000+ blocks to finish the building.

babeline:
Contact me for your quality Hardwood & MDF chinese, turkey, and American doors. We deliver nation wide.

How much is Door 1 & 3? I’ve used no. 3 on many project and its �

rotecch77:
The 1st drawing can’t work that way,if tank A filled up it can’t enter tank B bcs both tank have the inlet at same level.
The best for that system is for the both tank to supply each other from the bottom inlet.

See attached pics for that

Now if the system is for commercial for diff tenant then the second diagram (see attached pics) will be perfect for such.

Their will be a valve from the bore hole or from the municipal pipe into the two tank through only one pipe line then you will separate the pipe into each tank with valve on each branch, then if mr A need to pump water he will shot off MR B tank supply valve same applicable to Mr B if he needs water vise-visa. More so both can open the valve at a go to have water from the main source

Good advice. A valve at the borehole end is the way to go.

I have a 2 tank setup with a valve at the borehole end.

Tank A is for the building (bath, kitchen etc) and the Tank B serves the water need in the compound (car wash, sprinkler and other uses).

The Tank A is large enough to meet the daily needs of the property and we had 2 taps outside the building to use in case tank B is out of water.

Chekitaut:
You should consider precast parapet.

Way to go!

I was able to drive down parapet cost in three of my builds by investing in parapet concrete mold.
It became a lot more interesting when we had to do a structural modification on a house. We were able to pull the roof and introduce a parapet without damaging the POP ceilings in the house.

It’s the next best thing to the aluminum parapet which is very scarce now.

Focusmind:
The great Hajji, I am surprise at the impression people have about him. I thought I was being scammed but my work has finally being delivered. He had done good jobs before and that was why I contracted him again for windows. Though he delayed but we later got the reason behind the delay.I am reading this thread and surprise to see some comments about him. These are my windows as at yesterday

Lovely windows. I love large and clean windows too.

Jimbiz:
I will be glad to get your job done,
I don't presently have the before, during pictures of my project on my device presently.
The charge is per square meter either with materials or just labor

Feel free to share the pics when you’re able to. Thanks.

Interlocking Moulds For Sale

Type: Double T or Dogbone
Thickness: 8cm
Quantity: 3,000 pcs (500 pcs of plain and 2500 pcs of checkered)
Price: N70 per pc

- only used once
- bought last December for a project

The moulds are in Ogun state. Delivery is free to Lagos, Ogun and Ibadan.


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Minimum order: 1,000 pcs (no FREE delivery on order less than 2,000)


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Jimbiz:
I'm into stamped concrete flooring and interlocks all very affordable and I do travel to get the job done across the country.

What’s your rate?

I have a small project in Ibadan. A before, during and after pics of any of the project above won’t be a bad idea.

mufutau55:
The guy was unlucky not because he never met HSLBROKER, but because the supplier was no good.
I have dealt with many on this forum and I have never met any of them. Many have now become my personal friend that we talk several times per week both by voice call or Whatsapp. Some people are just bad period.
And they will come and be blaming things on the devil.
God save us from them.

Hajji M.

How about people getting contractors reference before getting into any deal with them? Or creating a review thread (abi it’s post or page we call it. I’ve forgotten a lot about Nairaland) and getting customers to give their rating or probably share their experience.

It doesn’t have to be filled with too many unnecessary ads/posts/project/enquiries. I pray people are able to keep it that way �

Also, DIYers/Homeowners shouldn’t be in a rush to engage contractors online. Always do your due diligence.

mufutau55:
Thank you very much Sir. I still visit some of those your illustrative threads o. Should I say "Welcome back" incognito?

Hajji M.

That’s the essence of those threads. They were all there for reference purpose and you won’t believe how helpful they’ve been.

I pop in once a while when people point my attention to some of the stuffs we did back then just to check them out.

For me, I believe there are no perfect circumstance to learn. “Good” or “Bad” we always learn. It’s always good to keep records and that’s something most of those great threads have done.

Kudos to everyone!

mufutau55:
Hello Oga Brabus. I know you are lurking here somewhere. Well, lost or not.. that was not the original thread. May be you can point us in the right direction to the original thread. Thank you.

Hajji M.

Hajji lurking again

The project is on the last few pages of The Chateau in Ile Oluji

One of your favorite thread back then.

mufutau55:
Yes Sir. The above was the second part of it.
The original part by Brabus was lost when Nairaland crashed those years ago and they lost their Database.
But you do remember, Oga mi.

Hajji M.

E ku iwaju sir.

Project lost

No project was lost. The project do not have a dedicated page. It was a thread on another major project.

kelvinnaira:
IOT way to go.. Although I'm beginning to not get comfortable with all these smart home devices and latest automation tools like robot vacuums floor cleaners and the otters, because I fear they might steal our jobs soon..

Valid point bro but....

Businesses need to take advantage of the AI opportunity, not fear its advantage (stealing our job).

People need to reskill and focus on learning skills that cannot be done easily by computers, such as creativity and complex communication.

We need to respond with a shift and not react with fear.

Aventures:
@ Archaran, you don't need to use fake monikers to promote your biz. Note that there are great.minds and intellects on this thread and NL in general. From the English construction of the two post recommending you makes me suspicious, and this lead me to check the profile of the two monikers and I discovered that the two monikers we're registered same day 25th of October. Bros I don't mean to burst your bubble but note that whatever will be will be just be yourself. One luv and wishing you the best.

Interesting community �

3000 pcs of interlocking mould for sale.

Bought for a project last December.

Double-T Design 8cm
N70/pc

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