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ATERI:
I don`t know whether that has changed, but the private school system used to be very unpopular in The Netherlands. Everybody learns the same thing from nursery to secondary school. Countries that are good are not good for no reason.
America is not alone in this show of shame; their cousins in London imprison more people than any other countries in the EU
When we called them Apartheid society, it wasn`t an exaggeration. They are tough on crime rather than being tough on the causes of crime. The more unequal a society is, the higher its prison population. That is what democratic capitalism is all about.

Worry more about Nigeria not America.
And you didn't factor in one important distinction between holland and America.
America is an immigrant country and is still is, whenever there is a congregant of
people from widely different backgrounds, crime is inevitable.

It is like expecting Lagos to have few crimes and prisoners as there are in Ekiti state
that is not possible.

VajanahDischaj:
you are not worthy of my response boy.

Grandma why are you so bitter ?

niggi4life:
Am sorry to disappoint you guys but the truth is Majority of Yoruba Women are just too unfaithful, randy and loose
Not forgetting that they are also Razz and immature... I have lived with them for over 30years so I know what I am saying. I am a Yoruba man so don't think otherwise.... Am very sure either of them or both of them is sleeping with Odunlade....God help us all in choices we make concerning a LIFE partner

Common sense is not common.
What a foolish comment.

VajanahDischaj:
I am a psychologist spiritual psychologist and lawyer. your statement is irrelevant.

I didn't expect an answer from you because you made your previous
statement simply to justify your faith.

oluworld2:
If you can't get anything from what I said so far, you are not in right position to ask if yes or no, I will only tell the words and stop responding to your message. Those that do such things cannot inherit the kingdom of God. Read Galatians 5:19

Hahaha , you are so predictable.
You : If Mr. A comits sin he is not a christian
Me: Do you engage in sin ?
You: I can't tell you, but sinners are not of the kingdom

Goodluck fooling the gullible

oluworld2:
I never labelled anyone as a sinner, but let me tell you, if you have Christ living in you, those characters will not be found in your life because you live by keeping his words, so why calling yourself a Christian when you don't have the attributes of Christ. I show you what the Scripture says but I guess if you are a Christian that study the Bible daily, you will know who a Christian is. Do you know why the Disciples first called Christians? You cannot be doing those things and claim to be a Christian,

Here we go again, do you still engage in any of those characters ? Yes or No

oluworld2:
Romans 12: I beseech you therefore brethren, By the mercy of God, that ye present your body a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.
Matthew 6: 33 Seek ye first God's kingdom and HIS righteousness.
2 Corinthians 5:I7 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
1 John 5:18We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.
Romans 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
From the day you decided to follow Jesus, you decided to leave behind your old way of life. And allow God to be in total control of your life. Is the way you live your life, react to things, that tell people who you are. As a Christian, we should be heavenly conscious. And our lives should preach the gospel our our Lord Jesus Christ.

Why are you beating about the bush , the question requires a yes or no answer
I know you are definitely engaging in one of those acts which means you are not
a christian but your self-declared righteousness will not let you see that but you
are quick to label others as non-christians because they are "sinners".

honeywealth75:
I just weep for ekiti people, this man is taking them backward. Fayose your days are numbered.

Which state are you from ?
Common sense is really not common.

oluworld2:
A Christian is someone that has accepted Jesus Christ as his or her personal saviour, keeping the words of GOD, living a holy and righteous life. Not just church goer. You cannot be a fornicator, adulterer, lier, idolater, murderer, thief, you cannot be keeping malice,And say you are a CHRISTIAN because you find yourself in the church

Are you saying you are not or never engage in any of those acts since you "became" a christian ?

Lovelynature:
No those people you talk about ain't really in Christ. Oh yes! Nobody encounters Christ and remain the same. Though there maybe trials and temptation around but our dear Lord and Saviour is ever faithful. Oh yes! There's great joy in the Lord Jesus

Who are you to decide who is a christian and who is not ?
I won't be surprised if you have a lot of skeletons in your cupboard
because hypocrites claims righteousness the most.

beloveddan:
She never knew God or Jesus. Being a child of God is not a theological concept. It is real. Visiting or going to church does not make it real in a person's heart. It is the new birth experience that makes it real to one. If one therefore never had the new birth experience, he or she can easily denounce God and Christian. John 1:12. If one ever had this birth according to John 1:12, he/she cannot easily wake up and denounce his/her father.

People will say the same things about you when you abandon your delusion.

jcross19:
brainwashed bro. Your olumba is dead, decayed in his grave. Am just wondering why blacks are so stupid , a man calling himself God n using jewish book to validate his fallacy na wah ooh.

Same way jesus is dead in his grave right ?

Lordgel:
He can't appear to me because he is using demonic powers, if he wants to try it, he will just burn to ashes. he will soon die for calling himself God. you people should just look for someone to replace him. remember that his father is dead.

What power are you using.
It is funny when delusionists argue among themselves

PrivateInvestig:
Craze pesin

Are you okay ?

BetaThings:
As for abduction, I have heard ladies from the South argue that Ese's case was not simple abduction - they contend that how is it possible for a guy who does not have a car to take a girl from the Bayelsa to the North
Unless she was hyponotised.
So it is not only Muslims querying Ese's story
b , I would also like to see where Muslims defend rapists

You should recall the case of the 17-yr old who said she ran away from home (in Enugu), came to Lagos met a guy, lied that she is 21, did not allow him to meet her parents
The police are calling it abduction. If her own story is true, is it really abduction?

any sexual relationship with a minor is rape, there is no story to believe or disbelieve,
once again you brought up the argument of "others are saying it".
I have never seen a society where every body is at the same moral or knowledge level,
because some southern "ladies" say it does not make it right.

b, You just did!, the problem is that many muslims don't believe in rape
when it involves underage or non-muslim girls.
Well they are not wrong because they have a "perfect" example in the prophet's actions.

Christians are saying she is a model
You can see her pictures
Her name is invoked during prayer

I guess invoking ogun's name make ogun the person's role model.
If not that you are being mischievious, you would know the Muhamed(the assumed perfect human)
can't be placed on the same page with Mary.

Can you tell me how mary prayed ?
How she related to her husband ?
How she handles quarrel with neighbours ?

If you have answer to any of those, kindly tell me
if you have come across anyone who claim, "I did it because
mary did it and she is always right"

The Prophet (SAW) got married
He spoke against idol worship, killing of twins and despising daughters

But he didn't speak against marrying underaged, killing your enemies, taking women
as war booties , killing anyone who criticised him, marrying ones daughter in law,
Telling lies to get what you want.

Every human on earth has a good side, if we are to based our justice system on that no one will
be in jail. But we know better.
Imagine releasing a rapist because he helped an old man to cross the road ?

Did what?
Marry or rape. Marriage is not a crime in Islam
rape is
What morality - people are getting married to members of their sex
They are talking of legalising adult incest.
reckon you like that morality

Mothers are putting their Unclad pictures online, yet Nigerian women are not sex objects
Senator Ali Ndume advised Senators like him to stop taking girls as girlfriends and marry them instead
Some started abusing Islam.[/quote]There is no rape in Islam when it involves underage girls or daughters of infidels.
So because someone put their nude pictures online, that means Nigerian women are
sex objects.
I can as well say you are also a kidnapper , since Yinusa abducted ese.
SMH.

If people are to follow Ali Ndume, how many wives do you think will be enough ?
because there are some cheats who keep more than 10 girlfriends in different cities.
So will they marry ten wives ?

Same old insincerity.
So how come everybody knows of Ese but Nigerians are largely ignorant of the evil deeds of some Christians
Are we really matching words with action
I put it to you, spewing what you have written, some criminals are given a soft landing while lesser evils by Muslims go viral

Who are Nigerians and who are the evil christians ?
Why don't start an awareness campaign to tell Nigerians how christians are criminals
and muslims are saints.

That is not the problem. You reaction is. Let me ask you, are you a pedophile if you marry an 18 yr old today
So suppose a century hence the age of consent is raised to 21 and people start telling your grandchildren that you are pedophile
Would you agree?

You are missing the point since Muhamed is your role model , you still believed marrying 6 year old
is not wrong and I won't be surprised if you decided to do the same since "the model for humanity did it"

Obviously there is no "holy" book that says my grand children must do what I did or they will end up in hell.

They are a model of humanity given the knowledge they possessed at the time
Even what some doctors did it in the past and were applauded would be criminal now
Do we say doctors of old were criminals and not models

Do you really read what you typed, I ask again is Muhamed's act that of his time or it is
still relevant in this present age.
Will you be wrong to marry a 6 year old girl today since the prophet did the same?

You seem confused about where you stand.

Doctors of old are model of their time not of current doctors,
will you allow your self or your child to be taken care of by a doctor who
says "Hippocrates is the model for medicine" and he/she will continue to use
his methods ?

Most underage rapists in the don't face this punishment you speak of, and they don't trend on twitter
I have facts

They are not perpetually holding their victims to ransom with the backing of prominent person, that
is why they are not trending.
It is one thing for a crime to be detected, it is another for the criminal to be playing god.

You are listening to only one side
I have argued that Yunusa has access two grandpas and two grandmas
The child Ese is carrying deserves same, not just Yunusa's parents only
I am a Muslim and I know the rule.
Yunusa should not have taken the girl from Bayelsa as he was not her husband, brother, father, uncle etc

According to shariah , what is the ruling on a female who want to convert to Islam by marriage
and the parent opposes it ?

Yes it is in this century and forever

Voila , case solved. This should have been your only reply.
I somehow respect those who state their belief without beating about the bush.

It is this your mentality that has brought untold pain , death and hardship
upon millions of people across the world including Nigeria, just because some uncivilized brutes
thinks everything muhamed did was right, they decide to copy him and what we
have now is chaos.

As a non-Muslim, you listen to his detractors who have a vested interest in taking his conduct out of context
Study his entire life and see the moral examples

I have seen people also criticise Jesus and I find that abhorrent because they do so because they are atheists and they are determined to read bad meanings into his actions

I am not typing out of what people say but based on historical facts from the life of Muhamed which you yourself
didn't deny but you were trying to deflect attention from it.

There is no contest for committing rape, taking women as war booty, marrying ones daughter in-law and state-sponsored assasination, if those were committed by a regular member of the society, no one will raise an eyebrow, but a prophet of god ?

In case you are not that learned about your religion and you still think it is one golden
plan for humanity, I will implore to read the following books
1. Siratul Rosool by ibn Ishaq
2. Sahi Buhari
3. Sahih Muslim

In conclusion every evil actions deserve condemnation regardless of who did it.

Lovelynature:
Life without Christ is full of crisis. There's no other name under Heaven given among men by which we must be saved (Acts 4:12). Jesus is the Way, Truth and Life. In Him abound the immeasurable joy beyond human explanation.

I have heard this bullshit a million times , but if you critically examine the life of those who are in christ,
you will be so happy you are not one of them.

VajanahDischaj:
she has never believed in God as far back as of when she framed that fake story.

How were you able to read her mind ?
Do you believe in God ? If yes prove it

mu2sa2:
But to not believe means you still believe in not believing.So you still believe in something!

If I am not a football fan does it mean I am a fan of "no football" ?

BetaThings:
how come Ese's case caused so much angst while nobody really cares about the daily rape of under 6s?
Is it about child rape or pillorying of Islam?

Don't tell me you don't know this , many of your brother's in faith opened thread to justify the continual abduction,
some tagged it as love and some claimed a girl that has started menstruation is ripe for marriage.

Rape is a crime in Islam, why would anyone defend a rapist?

You mean Mary (mother of Jesus) should have waited till she turned 18 before getting married

It is none of my business when mary got married, but if someone decide to tell me that her life
is a model for all humanity then questions must be asked.

And what are we to know better?
There is a difference between rape and marriage
The Prophet (SAW) got married
Mary and Joseph both got married

Prophets are supposed to have advanced knowledge than
their immediate society, a prophet cannot claim to be doing
god's will and at the same time partaking in inhuman practise
because his people are doing it.

And the prophets in the Bible that laid with young girls should also have known better
Right?
Continue with your blasphemy

What do you mean by prophets and young girls ?
To me a rapist is a rapist regardless of what name he/she is called.

What is the punishment for blasphemy ?

It is a known fact that human morality have grown over time but some people's
morality refuse to grow because they believe that since the prophet did it, it must
be right.

Anyway it is you Christians that are shamefully criminalising the culture of people you never lived with, never bothered to understand their life expectancy etc
and rushing to judge people of old with the "standards" of today
while Celebrating Baby mamas
holding wedding ceremonies for pregnant brides
But condemning marriage of people of old

Same old bullshit. Gone are the days of see no evil , say no evil, evil must be
condemned wherever it occurs among humans everywhere on the surface of the earth.
Again , the problem is that you believed the people of old are the model humans , so they
must be judged with the standards of modern world.

And this is the hypocrisy that you daily invite people to! I wonder how one could be so comfortable with such two-faced attitude

I don't understand what you mean by hypocrisy in this particular context.

Consider this two scenarios, 1. a man raped an underage girl , everyone condemns him and he ended up in jail.
2. A man abducted a minor sexually abused her , keep her in his house, threatens the girls parent with the backing
of religious authorities. Even the police have to take permission from emir before they could rescue the victim.

Are those scenarios the same ? Should people have keep quiet so that Islam won't be disrespected ?

Finally here is a question for you, do you believe the practise of the prophet was for the people
of his age or you think emulating behaviour is the right thing to do in the 21st century ?

iyb:
the truth shall set you free can you see wetin all your randy pastors a doing

It is none of my business what a randy pastor does, if he commits a crime he ends up in jail.
But it is a difference case entirely when an "holy" and the "book of god" supports abduction and
sexual assault of minors.

What is even more absurd is that some people claim that such prophet is the perfect example of mankind.

ItsMeAboki:
Then by the same token, the Christian god should have known better than to have impregnated Mary to give birth to his son Jesus at the age of 13 - 14 yrs - I suppose the Christian god was at that time also quite aware of VVF.

You guys are so incorrigible in your hypocrisy and bigatory.

You are right , God has no right to impregnate mary.

BTW, are you a muslim , if yes , you are indirectly mocking Allah because the Quran also
stated that Allah impregnated mary. You know that is blasphemy , the punishment of
which is death under sharia.

kowema:
Black Magic!!

Why can't dey just apply all this black and evil Magic in a way that it would favour everyone and the economy?, Like turning water into petrol, or turning naira to dollars etc

I equate magic with deception, there is nothing supernatural about it,
it is just some secret recipe some people decide to use against their fellow men,
hence turning naira to "real" dollar is impossible for these folks who are simply
following a manual of tricks.

BetaThings:
Are you sure Tunde Bakare is not a Muslim too?
Because we need to use only the names to determine the religion or tribe
Was the late Patrick Ibrahim Yakowa of Kaduna state a Muslim or Christian?
And is Stella Odua Yoruba?

What path?
I can assure that when the Prophet Mohammed married Aisha, it was the norm in his society
That was why nobody in his society was against the marriage and yet he had enemies
But his action is being criminalised by Christians today in their perennial quest to tarnish the image of the Prophet (SAW) and Islam

Now I challenge if you are Nigerian, can you prove that your great grandfather married your great grandma when they were above 18?
Please answer truthfully if you are sincere about justice to the weak and young ones
I can assure that given the present age of 18, at least 95% of all Nigerians are great, great grandchildren of pedophiles and we should admit that

In addition what was the age of Joseph when he married Mary and what was her age?
We can now also look at paths toed by your people

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/11/pastor-rapes-13-yr-old-during-deliverance-says-its-devils-work/
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/03/pastor-rapes-23-yr-old-girl-in-ebonyi/
http://www.lailasblog.com/2015/07/omg-randy-pastor-uses-bible-quotations.html
http://dailypost.ng/2013/09/11/how-our-pastor-raped-me-all-night-12-year-old-confesses-photo/
http://naijalog.com/deeper-life-church-pastor-rapes-2-underage-girls/
http://www.news24.com.ng/National/News/Pastor-arrested-for-raping-underage-girls-20130719
https://www.nairaland.com/2930929/pastor-raped-teenage-girl-rivers
http://newsbeatportal.com/dont-blame-the-devil-i-did-it-pastor-who-raped-jss2-church-member-the-nation/

http://tribuneonlineng.com/under-pretext-of-waist-pain-pastor-allegedly-defiles-underage-church-member
http://www.bellanaija.com/2015/11/delta-pastors-17-year-old-son-rapes-kills-14-year-old-girl/
http://www.dailytrust.com.ng/news/city-news/pastor-arrested-over-rape-of-teenage-girl/132253.html
http://ycrmusic.com.ng/news/2015/09/17/55-year-old-pastor-rapes-15-year-old-girl-in-ondo/

Stop displaying ignorance, did you see anyone supporting the rapist on this thread ?
We know you would have written a long epistle to defend the rapist had it been he is
one of your brothers in faith.


At the bold, a prophet is supposed to know and act better than his own people.
The argument of: "I did it because others were doing it" is a shameful defense for
a "prophet"

Quakertellicus1:
1.He has sent troops there

Are you not ashamed to type this ?

Of what use are the troops if killing and destruction is still ongoing.
Do you not know that the Agatu's are still living in IDP camps ?
SMH.

vedaxcool:
PDP failed in governance now it ia failing as an opposition party, if I may ask was pdp cursed with failure? Were they roommates?

Oga face the topic not PDP.

modath:
According to one offline wailer, "PDP will match APC propaganda for propaganda"...

Was so looking forward to it, twould have been entertaining, but PDP is falling hands mega!

If you want to do propaganda, do it & come out looking like peaches & cream....


This is WEAK as F!!

Who are the strategists behind this comatose, medical practitioners less ICU patient called "PDP"? ... .

Manufacture some "believable" documents, give a timeline of dates & corresponding travel expenses not just throwing easily refutable figures like the $8k Feragammo shoes into the air...

These people are learners who wouldn't even stay in class to be "taught".....

If the bold is true , you won't bother writing this epistle,
even your response is longer than the PDP's allegation.
it just goes to show that you are trying so hard to convince yourself
that everything is fine when they are not.

iyb:
that has been proven without the grain of doubt pastors collected money from GEJ so as to entice their people to vote for him. in fact your brother GEJ is the worst natural disaster ever to happen in Nigeria

Where is the proof ?
Buhari say so ?

mrmetoo1:
Lmao @ I'm doing my job. Mr intelligently can you provide proof of the accusation? You're talking about intelligence, is it intelligent to believe something without asking for proof? You guys just come here to prove the hatred you have towards the man and his family. Then I said what I said about where I schooled to prove a point but I see I hurt your feelings even though I wasn't talking to you.. pele!!

It is unfortunate that even with your "American School"(I assumed you are not lying) you
couldn't respond properly in a public discussion.

mrmetoo1:
What's going on with your friend is unfortunate but abeg no be today. I schooled in America and this is something you see every time. This isn't the first time patents haven't been able to afford school fees, I went through some semesters like that myself where school fees either came late or didn't even come fully. Periods like that, I pick myself up apply for whatever assistance I can get and hustle the rest, nothing new here bro.

Then you claim you live in Australia, can you accuse someone of something this damaging in a country like that without getting sued? No one is saying don't expose them if they're indeed corrupt but without proof.. c'mon man! Also you sound like a hater, you've not taken time to verify these claims yet you're already talking about their watches and dresses and Mary Kay... Mary Kay.. Lmao!!! Are you sure you're in Australia?? Mary Kay is now a big deal?? Mr poverty of intellect, abeg which one is foreign perfume again.. Lmao!! Bros you sound like am illiterate. Please what do you do in that Australia?

This issue is not about his friend and no one cares if you schooled in the moon.
The allegation is about abuse of office by hypocritical "saints".

I understand you are doing your job but it will be better if you do it "intelligently"

modelmike7:
I know this is propaganda from the very beginning... Wailers will always wail.... Una go wail tire. PMB is here to do his best. Whether you all support him or not is your cup of tea, but he is your President now, so deal with that WAILERS!!!

Zombie spotted, so you expected her to say "I am guilty".

iyb:
Do you have any proof that she was given Dollars by the cbn to sell. Buhari is a former head of state with a small family he can afford to send his children abroad to study.
What is happening to ur friend is a sad tale but it's not buhari fault that his parents can't afford to pay his rent. If you don't have money to comfortably sponsor your child abroad let him stay at home. The Hausa-Fulani know that they only send their children abroad when they can afford it if not just goto any school in naija

Since you did not ask for proof the missing $49 Billion Dollars,
the 7Billion Naira Bribe given to CAN ,

Why do yo need proof in this case ?

Bollinger:
Patience never did because she is an educated illiterate. And because she didn't doesn't make what you did right. You can't just go around accusing people of crimes without proof. In normal societies, you will pay for it in millions. Nigeria is not a normal country/society, so anything goes.

Are you indirectly mocking Buhari ?