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^^^ You make a lot of sense sir! Thank you.

Again, Mark 9:43-48 " And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:
Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched."

OP. Please answer these questions truthfully. Have your eyes ever caused you to sin? Have your hands ever caused you to sin? Did you follow Jesus' instructions to pluck out your eyes and cut off your hands every time you sinned? If you answered yes, then I believe you are very truthful about hell and you know what you are saying. I greatly respect you for that. If your answer is No, then you are a FIRST CLASS HYPOCRITE and you have no right to teach about Hell. Cut off your hands and pluck out your eyes every time they cause you to sin before you come here to teach about hell. Except you are saying you are perfect which I very much doubt.

They believe in Hell with all their hearts, yet, Truth is far away from their lips. Unrighteousness and wickedness abounds in a land that has at least three churches in every street. Who are you kidding?

akagaba: Oh, i gues u ar bak 2ur senses. U ar scared alredy becus iv exposed u of ur real identity, abi? Hahahaha. It is writen "by their fruits ul kno them" and right frm wen u responded supportively 2 KunleOshob, whos statement here was demeaning and downgradin 2d body of xst, and 2d great man of God, did i need any soothsayer 2tel me dat birds of d same feather flock 2gether, dat both of u ar on d same mission? U and Kunle oshob who hav disrespectd n ironicaly insultd a man of God ar truly devil's incarnate. Ths is d truth and u kno it, Its only demons who rebel against God n his anointed prophets. U quote d bible here and admonish dat i shud emulate Jesus. Havent u read hw Jesus used 2bles people - "Blessed ar d pure in hart 4they shall..... and how He used to curse? --"Woe unto u pharisees n d scribes, 4u wash d outside clean and..... Guy, U ar d pharisee of ths generation becus u have no respect 4d anointing. Al i can tel u is Go and gve ur life 2XST and ask d holy spirit 2gve u insight in2 spiritual thngs. Until then, u shal continue 2wallow in ths emptines n ignorance u ar rite nw.

B1tch learn how to write intelligibly. Stinking, mud munching, pastor worshipping, brainless, she-demon hoe. If you are a Christian you have failed Jesus miserably. Take your foul smelling display of hypocrisy far away from me. There is only one thing to be done to flies like you. Swat you, kill you and ignore you. You are very irrelevant in the greater scheme of things. Hang yourself and die of shame. You are hereby ignored forever.

akagaba: And tho they say dat d best answr 2a fool is 2kip quiet, bt il tel u dat d best answer 2 satanists like u and kunleoshob is 2ignore and laugh. Thats exactly wat im doing nw, hahahahaha. Guy, u ar stinging so get behind me. Lost maggot, senseles baboon, devil's representativ.

What did Apostle James say again?

"With the tongue we praise our Lord and Father, and with it we curse human beings, who have been made in God’s likeness. Out of the same mouth come praise and cursing. My brothers and sisters, this should not be." James 3:9-10 NIV

Let's assume I'm a Satanist (How in the world you know that, I don't know) or the devil's representative. Read the above passage from the Bible and read what you have written to me. Are you any better? Hang your head in shame. You are a BIG disappointment to Christ and His teachings. You are a LIAR and HYPOCRITE. You behave contrary to what you study in your Bible. Shame on you.

akagaba: And u ar in hell on earth becus i can feel hw hot u ar. U and ur father, satan shal dwel 2gethr 4eva. Satanist indeed.

Emulate Jesus Christ for once and stop spewing incoherent insults. Is that what Pastor Chris teaches you? Clean your gutter mouth and speak like the royalty you claim you are.

I just finished reading through a thread titled "Reps Fear National Assembly May Be Next Terror Target." I wasn't surprised to see Nigerians supporting the idea of Boko Haram bombing a session of National Assembly members. If ever the idea materialized and we had terrorists systematically killing off politicians, Nigerians will not be ashamed to voice support for terrorists.

The reasons are not far-fetched. Nigerians have suffered beyond endurance, beyond failed promises and failed hope. They will not be ashamed to indulge in blood lust to see this idea come to fruition. It's only a matter of time before political terrorism occurs in this country. If the so-called leaders fail to make a U-turn and become accountable to its fellow citizens then I fear for the future. The French Revolution comes to mind.

KunleOshob: @joagbaje
Would you be kind enough to answer the questions posted above? Or are you too ashamed of the practises to answer questions bothering on them?

Of course he won't answer it. Why am I not surprised?

akagaba: U ar a devil's incarnate and im so sory 4u dat u ar roaming d world in vain. 2show u how f0olish n demonic u ar, uv been ignored by evryone bt pardon me cus i nid 2tel u d trut. U and Satan ar one, like father like son.

It takes a demon incarnate and a miserable bigot like you to know another devil incarnate... Love world indeed.

FXKing2012: Pls be careful how u criticize a church especially when you dont have the full facts. Let's be wise pls.
Fact is CEC has helped so many people and has saved so many souls, that is a major achievement and I wonder why nobody is talking about that, why focus only on money.

Ignorant buffon! So CEC is the new Jesus?? No wonder the souls CEC has saved have turned spiritual zombies.

FXKing2012: I'm not tired cos we are not to be tired while trying to save souls. And it amazes me how you are so sure they are con men, you seem to know everything.

Confused so-called Christian. Are you the one saving souls or Jesus Christ whom the bible claim to be "THE SAVIOUR OF THE WORLD" and "THE SAVIOUR OF ALL MEN". Are you saying Jesus failed in his job and God has assigned you people to succeed where Jesus failed? Pastor Worshipper, well done!

Ask Ruggedman. This will be one massive flop except he plans to start a s.ex t.oy range. It might just work.

This Funmilayo woman hasn't had a man for years. Wacky b1tch!

Nairaland
Evoking emotions with words.

I have no problem with the bill as long as a bill to execute corrupt public officials is also passed.

alexleo: I dont even understand what you mean by false humility and I too know(ITK) in this matter. I ve said am not here to argue. If going to God in prayer for him to guide you to understand his word is a crime to you thats your business.

You are not here to argue? So why are you trying to convince frosbel to believe in a place of eternal torment all in the guise of advice? You see your hypocrisy?!! Oh the humanity!
So many so-called Christians like you are really ridiculous. Our dear brother frosbel has studied the Word of God and found nowhere in the Bible where it says there exists a place of eternal torment. What unsolicited advice are you giving someone who has intelligently come to his own conclusions after an in-depth and exhaustive study on this topic?
Going to God in prayer to guide him indeed! When this same God has not said anything about sadistically burning people in fire for eternity. What a load of horse manure!

@OP, Please stop displaying false humility. You know you are very wrong on this subject on Heaven and Hell. Ask yourself these sincere questions.

1. Where is Heaven and Hell located?

2. What kind of people go there?

3. When do they go there?

4. Is Heaven and Hell ready for accommodation?

Now read these verses in[i] your [/i]bible, if you have one.

This is Jesus speaking:

"Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice and come out – those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned." John 5:28-29 NIV

Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ, whose message I'm sure you believe in says:

"...I believe everything that is in accordance with the Law and that is written in the Prophets, and I have the same hope in God as these men themselves have, that there will be a resurrection of both the righteous and the wicked."
Acts 24:14-15 NIV

Do these two passages from the Bible make you think? Yes, I thought so too.

So, please stop your ITK and research more before you come here to expose how much you know.

*Shaking my head. Religious Nigerians. Experts in all things religious yet it doesn't reflect in the well being of their nation.*

Christians and Muslims tend to think themselves superior, the special people and all. And trust me that is the most horrible delusion a person could possess- that he is special and above the rest, that he is the chosen one.
This sort of individualistic thinking would only lead to war, corruption, exploitation of others , misunderstandings and anarchy.


This, my friend, is the major problem I have with Religion. It's this superiority complex that infuriates me. "My God is greater than your God". "My way is the right way. If you don't believe it you are headed for destruction." The stench of hypocrisy that emanates from religious adherents is so disgusting it has put me off religion forever.

Logicboy03: It is evident that Joagbaje is a thief

Joagbaje is NOT only a THIEF but he's also a wicked, unrepentant LIAR. He doesn't worship God. He worships the DEVIL. Shameless Rogue. I'm sure the idol you worship is proud of you.

In every nook and cranny of most streets in Nigeria you will find churches and mosques. A lot of Nigerians are experts on God and morality. Yet, this country stinks to the high heavens of wanton wickedness and corruption. The so-called political leaders in Nigeria are the worst culprits. They have a semblance of godly devotion but their hearts are far away from the God they claim to worship. The pastors? Don't mention. Exploiting the ignorant and wilfully unintelligent members of their congregation, they amass obscene and stupendous personal wealth in the pretence of teaching people on the ways of God.

Religion has done Nigeria no good. We have become hypocrites and unthinking creatures of self-destruction. If the God Nigerians serve is a God of justice and equity, why is the land void of the benefits of worshipping this God? Religion has replaced common sense and intelligent reasoning. We want God to do everything for us. The only thing remaining is for Him to spoon feed us. What a country!

Abeg who see naija second goal? That goal beats Zlatan's by far.

I wan laff belle scatter. See as the players of both teams dey form serious for match wey dry pass harmattan.

Truckpusher: this match is boring sha!!!

Boring doesn't even cut it. It's worse than a high school game.

Gone are the years when Super Eagles was synonymous with excellent game play. Compare this game and contrast with the Super eagles of old. SMH

Shittiest nigerian team ever...like seriously WTF

See as the boys dey heavy. Flair dem nor get. Technic zero. Skill apology. Ball control na story. Venezuela go make dem see pepper.

Logicboy03: What I am saying is that every theistic religion is xenophobic. Their god is always favouring them. The Christian god is as false as any other theistic religion

Your comment has raised an interesting issue here. I wonder why Africans and all other races are laying claim to a God that is clearly a Jewish deity. "I am the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob" says Yahweh. God is stating clearly and without further controversy that He is the God of all Jews. Even if other races want to lay claim to Him, He has made it clear who He prefers.

Logicboy03: Unfortunately, you are saying that Zues, Sango, Odin, Osiris are all true.

I'm not exactly saying that. If Christians want to claim the Bible is accurate then I see no reason why God didn't reveal Himself to other races in the form of the deities you mentioned above. It will be foolish of Jews to think the Creator of the Universe revealed Himself to only them. God also revealed Himself to Africans, Vikings, Mongols, Eskimos and all other races and they have their Bible to prove it.

caseless: The question is :

1. Did GOD ever reveal himself to any man? If yes , then show me 'where' , 'how' and to whom he revealed himself.

2. Was jesus a jew?

3. Who was apostle paul?

My conclusion is, this is what u get when ur mindset is fixed to reading one book that's edited more than 5000 times by men, adultrated by the romans and have multiple versions(new or old testament, kjv, etc).

Let's assume God revealed Himself to the Jews and the Bible is a feeble attempt to record their expecriences with Him. If God is fair and just, it means He also revealed Himself to other races at different times in history and there are also written accounts of these.

When you read through the Bible, you will find the Jews playing a prominent role in the scheme of things. In the Old Testament, God communicates with the Jews, sends messengers of Jewish descent, passes instructions and commandments to the children of Israel (who are Jews) and reveals Himself and His ways to the Jews. Flip over the the New Testament, the story is the same. Jesus of Nazareth is a Jew. His disciples are all Jews. Apostle Paul who wrote two thirds of the New Testament is also a Jew. The writers of the remaining part of the New Testament are all Jews.

"Hmmmmmm" I say to myself. What is going on here? Does that mean God revealed Himself to only the Jewish race? Why do the Jews get preferential treatment above all other races on earth? Did God also reveal Himself to other races on earth? If so, are there written records of other races experience with God?

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]Mithra was not a man but is a Solar deity in INdo-Iranian and later on GReco-ROman beliefs. Mithra was symbolically born of a rock.[/quote]It's the first time I'm hearing this. Thanks for the information.

You see, this is what I'm talking about. One person says: "My Religion is better than yours. It's the True Way to God." Another says: "No, my religion is the best way. It's the ONLY way to God."
This sort of argument breeds hate, intolerance, self-righteous hypocrisy and spite. Until we realize the futility of adhering to any religion, the evolution of the human race will remain stagnant and mired in myopic reasoning. You don't need religion to tell you Love, respect, and tolerance for your neighbour is what we need to co-exist peacefully.