₦airaland Forum

oyetunder:
Igbos will come here now and be boasting...because they are yet to know that this accusation shall soon be an excuse to massacre them in the North. Igbos are yet to know that being bold is not about using a machete to scratch the floor.

You have a good point. Initially, I was going to say: "nobody forced them to become junkies...", but on a deeper level, one needs to listen to the subliminal message being sent, which is: "Igbo are responsible for all your problems, from poverty to drugs abuse". In these months running up to elections, dog whistles like these need to be carefully monitored and countered.

So because of one small good act by two policemen, we should ignore the nonsense carried out by the hundred thousands abi? Mtcheeew

At least they tried... they probably got free soup/oil from her shop last week sha

handsomeyinka:
My clearing agent will now start telling me that they r charging uniform fee on each cars.
THIS uniform sef be like tokunbo cloth.

You sabi dem wella. That's why I don't like any kind of change in Nigeria... any small thing results in more fees

Akinwumi Adesina, please sir, PMB's Lia wants to claim your achievements from 2010...

He said, “I reported the matter to the ‘B’ Division, Ughelli, and the Divisional Police Officer gave me two policemen to arrest the woman, who went into hiding after the incident. The policemen insisted I give them money before they do anything.” .

I am all too familiar with this reaction from police.

Hope the wife and child will recover from the slicing and dicing. Phew! But see what ordinary chicken poop caused.

Well, whether we like it or not, the senator has to be protected by the government. The rational way to handle non-performance is recall or voting, and not falling for the same tricks (bread, rice, #500, and empty promises) when election comes around.

Grupo:
You that is wallowing in poverty, are you going to carry your poverty to heaven?

Abi oh? I'm going to start using this response for people who quip that you can't take riches to Heaven... "you can't take sufferhead and raggedy clothes to heaven either"

Simple. Continue being his friend if you value his friendship, and stop trying to change him.

"Does she have proof that the officer was beating the man?" Isn't that the very same video/picture she was taking? Police sef.

But it seems we need cheap webcams that people can wear that updates to social media with a press of a button. If more and more people start recording and speaking out about police misbehavior.... will it change anything?

Er... if there's one thing that sells, it's sex and nudity: hundreds of billion dollars in worldwide revenue from either selling it, or using it provocatively to sell product.

eodavids:
China is trying.

But not good enough in producing durable technological hardwares.

I still remember some folks bashing me on this platform some months back because I insisted China is not taking over from united states as the no. 1 superpower owing to the fakenes of Chinese things generally.

Hope those folks reads this

This space station (and it's current successor Tiangong-2) have been given an operational life of 4-6 years after which they were planned to be decommissioned. Granted the original plan was for Tiangong-1 to be commanded for a controlled descent, however it ceased functioning in March 2016. There are lessons to be learned for sure, but nobody learned to walk without crawling and falling.

China is currently building its more permanent space lab, based on lessons learned here.

It's funny we're having this discussion - very similar to the doubts that Japan could make durable goods in the 1960s. What saddens me is people's apparent joy (not necessarily you, but in general), about this "failure", when China is only the third country to independently launch humans into space. We're here typing on phones made in China, increasingly made with Chinese machines, using telecommunications towers made by China (using Chinese firmware), blasting Chinese things for being fake. While all this is happening, 30 years from now after China's ascendancy, we'll probably be laughing at Vietnam's "fake" products without ever making things of our own.

Japan has developed; as has Taiwan; South Korea; China... and we're still struggling to provide drinking water, roads, and constant electricity - problems mostly solved since 1890.

NwaAmaikpe:

Buhari is a proud despot.
Imagine the arrogance.
In his mind he is bigger than Allah.

Abeg free the man. Likely his knees are paining him... I'm not a fan a Buhari, but you have to quit the ad-hominem attacks.

I don't think even he is happy that he can't fold his legs/waist and sit, as he begins to succumb to old age. There have always been allowances for people to sit on chairs as they pray, depending on condition.

This post is silly and a fail; you should know better.

deomelo:
Must they always respond to every lie and irresponsible conduct by ipobs and anti Nigerian elements?

Do they not have anything better to do?

Better to respond right away before the lie grows roots. Also good to expose inaccuracies so they won't be later used against gov't.

There's no proof that he has been cleared of allegations. A statement on social media (sic) thanking your redeemer does not constitute proof. Show a bona fide a court statement, police report, or something with legal standing.

Barring that, you can also bring a receipt of bail

winj3:
Ni siren and escort cars yet he attracted attention based on 2 very obvious flags. If he travelled without attracting attention to himself it will have been difficult to single the car out from other mercedes benz cars of those days.

He was killed by soldiers led by a traitor. They knew his movements so no amount of incognito would have saved him.

So wait... is this... prostitution? Technically these girls are not selling "sex", but "virginity", so what's the governments' stance? I think prostitution is legal in Germany, so no worries there. Then what about tax? Does it count as income tax (30%) or is it sales tax (10%). Curious minds are pondering so I know how much to bid

deomelo:
Ignorant assertions is what ipobs call enlightenment these days.?

Wonders shall never end...

I'm not ipob, just a Nigerian who seeks to enlighten some people who apparently don't understand their own history. Just because you're "such and such" does not mean you understand the entire history. I'm sure you were surprised to learn that Eko, Ikorodu, Oba, are Edo words; that the Oba of Lagos derives from the Oba of Benin; or that Alaafia, Adura, Esin are Arabic words; that Garri is Hausa word; that Cassava (from which garri is derived) was introduced by the Portuguese from Brazil. If it wasn't so recent, you'd probably have thought Lagos was a Yoruba word too

Biety:
lies all over your post.

As a yoruba man, i've never debated the ownership of lagos with you nonindegenes before because i know there is nothing that can stop lagos from being yoruba land.
Aworis, ijebus and eguns are aborigines of lagos, and these three are yoruba subgroups.
Edos or whatever you call yourselves have no inheritance in lagos as you are not among the three aborigines of lagos.
And concerning the statement you are crediting to OBA Akiolu, He never said lagos belongs to Benin, useless and coveteous people who are jealous of yoruba sucess in lagos did.
The monarch had debunked the statement many times, he granted an interview around december last year and told journalists that I NEVER SAID LAGOS DOES NOT BELONG TO YORUBA. Meaning he believes that lagos is yoruba land.
friend, no sane yoruba would like to enter into a debate with you concerning lagos ownership cos we know the land is our heritage.
Lagos is yoruba land and yoruba land is lagos.


LAGOS IS ANCESTRAL LAND OF EGUNS, IJEBUS AND AWORIS.
these three groups are yorubas.

Do you know what aborigine means? How can Aworis (traced to Ile-Ife), Eguns and Ijebus (traced to Ogun) be aboriginal? All three say with their own mouth they settled in Lagos? Meaning they came from somewhere else in the not-too-distant past.

The Oba never said one way or the other that Lagos belongs to Yoruba either... what he has said is that Lagos owes its origins to many people.

I'll make a parallel... I'd say Yorubas consider Ilorin part of Yorubaland. Who were the original settlers, aboriginals if you will? Certainly not the Yoruba, though it was settled by Yoruba hunters around 1600s-1700s and later became a war camp. Then after Afonja's rebellion it became part of the Sokoto Caliphate. Is Ilorin a Yoruba or Hausa city? Or both? I think it parallels in many ways Lagos. Settled by several, especially Awori and Benin, but not indigenous to either - that's the point I'm making.

deomelo:


Funny when ipobs label their ignorant rubbish facts...

"Ignorant rubbish" is what people use to dismiss sources of enlightenment.

dammiecool:
Let's pretend u r correct about eko, pls I want to knew if ojota,ikeja,isolo,amuwo odofin,ikorodu,agege,ikoyi,epe,surulere,mushin,ilupeju,Oshodi,alagbado..e.t.c also belong to d Benin empire

The entire area that encompasses the names you mention are all part of Eko... and so formerly all part of Benin empire. Almost invariably, all these places have interesting names based on their history in the past 200 years or so (which is not that long ago).

Eko - (Edo: war camp)
Ojota - Oju Ota (Yoruba: bullet spots)
Magodo - Ma gun odo (Yoruba: don't count it)
Oshodi - Landuji Oshodi Tapa (Nupe: person's name)
Ikorodu - Eko-Ohordua (Edo: military fort)
Ikoyi - Eko-Oyi (Edo: prison)
Alausa - Abule Hausa (Yoruba+Hausa: that of Hausas)
Ikeja - (Yoruba+English Ikorodu And Epe Joint Administration)
Badagry - (Popo/Dahomey)

There are several accounts that argue the etymology of some these names, so this is not canonical. However, I do submit that the fact that there is controversy implies they are not wholly Yoruba in origin, and the jury is still out.

Funny enough, some places like Surulere, Victoria Island, Lekki, Amuwo Odofin, Festac and most parts of Ikoyi did not actually exist as places to live (they were swamps until reclaimed and then settled in the early 1900s into the present.) It's a bit like Banana Island or Eko Atlantic for people 50 years from now... they won't imagine it was once a swampy part of the lagoon.

(I'm not Bini BTW)

dataking:
Shut up, jealous soul

Hah hah... this is your counter argument? By not bringing facts to the table? Thruth: Oyo or Ife have no claim to Lagos.

BioTeck:
Try harder to re-write history because this attempt has failed woefully. 'Ohun rere n wu onisowo Ado'.

Sorry, it is you who don't understand history. When has Lagos been part of the Oyo empire (as all of Yorubaland has been)? Who do the Obas of Lagos owe their allegiance to - Benin (and not Oyo or Ife)? What is the original Yoruba name for Lagos (don't say Eko... that's an Edo name... named by the first Oba of Lagos, from the Benin Empire). Also see what "Why Lagos does not belong to Yorubas - Oba Akiolu - Daily Post Nigeria"

flokii:
Lagos is Yoruba land surrounded by neighbouring Yoruba cities and the Atlantic ocean..

How this turned out to be a big problem for you is what I don't get.

Who asked you to narrate history or will that make Lagos part of Igboland?
I blame Yorubas for being too free with you outsiders.

Sorry, it is you who don't understand history. When has Lagos been part of the Oyo empire (as all of Yorubaland has been)? Who do the Obas of Lagos owe their allegiance to - Benin (and not Oyo or Ife)? What is the original Yoruba name for Lagos (don't say Eko... that's an Edo name... named by the first Oba of Lagos, from the Benin Empire). Also see what "Why Lagos does not belong to Yorubas - Oba Akiolu - Daily Post Nigeria"

Biety:
See development in yoruba land.

Yoruba land is the fastest

developing and the most peaceful in Nigeria and Africa.

this is the lord's doing, it's

pleasant in our eyes.

All nonindegenes living and working in lagos should rejoice with the yorubas if you want these kinds of developments in your region.

I'm proud of Lagos but this tribalism/regionalism must stop. Nigerians have made Lagos what it is. Is Lagos only collecting IGR from Yoruba people? Or tax? How many billions of money (cowries, gold, pounds, and now Naira) from Nigerians all over has poured into Lagos? It's a former capital city, a financial, manufacturing, and entertainment hub - and has only become so due to the efforts of all Nigerians. Federal revenue mostly from Palm and Crude oil (obtained elsewhere) has helped it grow.

As for indigine: do we discount all the Benin people and their descendants who've lived and settled Lagos since 1400s? Are they too not indigene? In it's past life as part of Benin Empire (late 1400s till 1861), it benefitted from the largess of that Empire. Its first Oba - Captain Ashipa (some also say his son Ado) in the Benin Empire - to whom all Obas of Lagos trace their lineage, was given Lagos to govern. How does the Oba of Benin give somebody Lagos if Lagos is not part of his Empire?

So please, although Lagos is located in South West Nigeria, it is a serious discredit to call it Yoruba Land: it's a uniquely multi-cultural place with a complex history where many Nigerians can be said to be indigenes. This is not Ife or Oyo - undisputedly Yoruba cities, but a once forlorn beach that has seen waves of immigration and control over the millennia: settled in part by Aworis* - and to a lesser extent Ekiti - (running from war in the Yoruba hinterlands), and settled in parts by the Edos (empire expansion/trade). More recently (over two centuries) it has seen Portuguese, British, Brazilian, Igbo settlers.

In conclusion, I submit for consideration:
1. its two names: Eko (Edo language) and Lagos (Portuguese language) are decidedly not of Yoruba origin (does it even have an originally Yoruba name?)
2. its Obas owe allegiance ultimately to Benin (and not to Oyo, nor to Ife)
3. it has never been part of the Oyo empire, unlike the rest of Yorubaland.


* Authoritative sources (e.g. the current Oba of Lagos) have stated that the Awori people, though found in Ile-Ife, are actually Binis who followed their self-exiled Prince, the first son of the Ogiso (now called Oba) of Benin Kingdom to Ife.

Lagos is just getting better every day. Sometimes when I enter parts of Lagos I wonder if this is still the same Nigeria we're living in
Very proud of what they're doing just wish some of that development will find it's way to other states though...

BTW, they really should change the Lagos State coat of arms: palm trees, cowries, and fishermen... not very progressive IMHO.

But what do I know?.... I'm just passing by...

slotA4:
This is heresy! Nothing on earth can convince me that there is no hell.

HELL IS REAL!

The people who told you hell is real (the Catholic Church first, then protestant churches), are now beginning to tell you it isn't. You mention heresy as if you've independently verified its existence (or non-existence).

I don't know why people get so worked up about one religion or another... they are just very elaborate schemes to try and explain the Universe and Man's place in it. To me, the Yoruba pantheon is not much different from the Greek, or from the Abrahamic, or the Hindu, or the Igbo, etc.

The premise is all the same: there is a supreme being; there are other powerful ones who derive their authority from the supreme; they control natural phenomena in some way; and Man is a special creature who needs their help - wiser than animals, yet limited in many ways. Some are more forgiving than others; one in particular is quite harsh and jealous; and adherents can't stand the thought of you believing in your own interpretation of Man's existence because it opens their own dogma to question...

HCpaul:
This is how Nigeria will be transformed in 2019. The former picture is Nigeria when [b]Bull[/b]hurry is still in power while the later is the new Nigeria after the hanumanous president is outer power.

Good morning to the black world.

Seeing that it involves Buhari, I'm not sure which picture to favor:
the big one on the left, representing food and plenty.
or the lean one on the right, representing austerity.

Either way, #backtodaura2019. I'll walk from Surulere to Yaba if he loses re-election*

*I know where my legs can carry me, so no Abuja - Lagos trekking for me.

My doctor say my cure dev ontop ur body oh..

Release the tape na... the only person being blackmailed is the lady...

We don't need to hear your goals... it's been three years. We need to see results.

Even when cooking soup, you know if it's going to end well by the scent. But this administration, sir, stinks!

I wonder how much partying will happen when this guy leaves in 2019? It's going to be epic.

Dexter247:
see as this one open booby.. tufiakwa

As if you don't like it... where's that duck meme?

wittyt98:
New Nairaland Meme Loading

You beat me to it... I was going to post that picture and say the exact thing. I've saved the pic sha

Gentle2015:
...see reasoning?So, China will make few phone calls? You are one of Nigeria's problem

Is it a lie? We can pretend that our leadership/officials really care about right/wrong. Or we can simply admit the truth that it will just take a few phone calls and maybe some dealmaking.

For instance, I used to complain about police bribes... now I just salute them with N100, N200. I can stand my ground and be frustrated, then taken to station, then involve lawyer, then pay for "free bail". Next thing you know a N200 problem escalates to N20k, and you will be begging to be let off with just N10k.

Even the top people will be annoyed with customs officials for making a fuss and sticking to their guns; if someone is not careful, somebody may lose their job/pension for upholding the law. That's how the system works. All these egunge is tax.

Yes, the guy did something counter to the law - which I'm surprised he didn't declare, unless he obtained the money in a complicated way that he preferred not to disclose. But why hold him accountable to a law passed by law-makers that flaunt the law at every given opportunity?

Yes, we have to hold our leaders accountable, but I'll admit that as for me, it's easier to just work within the system and face my lane, as government will not be there to uphold my rights, unless I'm willing to spend a few millions and time on court cases. Every generation has its martyrs, I'm just not one of them.