₦airaland Forum

Guestlander:
Basically the constitution we are operating is not a federal constitution. Nigeria became an independent country and got a carefully negotiated constitution agreed to by all the federating units.
What we have now is not working for anyone, except maybe a few who now have some advantages as a result of the skewed constitution.
States for example should not be going to Abuja every cap in hand like beggers.
There are several other issues affecting states which Abuja should have no business dealing with.

I can understand and appreciate this. But if state governors looked inwards and capitalized on their unique strengths, they won't need to go hand in cap, and over decades, can assert more and more of their own independence and authority (which is really only possible with growing economic strength). This would actually be much more productive than the calls for restructuring which - by itself - won't put food in peoples stomachs, or suddenly result in great healthcare.

You mentioned the existing constitution was carefully negotiated by the federating units... including the ones clamoring for break away. Weren't they the same who agreed to the Constitutions, and to be bound by them?

When IPOB was doing its own nonsense last year, I said the same thing... Igboland would be much better served focusing on improving economic conditions, and grooming its children so they become part of the ruling elite. As an example: an Igbo child is more likely to go into trade than to go into government administration. Conversely, you'll find a lot of Hausa/Fulani children going into the civil service as recruits/clerks/porters/guard/cleaners. As the years go by and promotions are made, the core of leaders in the civil service will consist mostly of people in the civil service (i.e. Hausa).

Yes, there is solid evidence of Northerisation agenda, as made explicit by Sir Ahmadu Bello (who I respect for his position and efforts towards his people, yet am sincerely disappointed in his positions towards people like me not from the North), and being continued till this day under Buhari.

Nevertheless, I think we have made great progress away from the mindset of people born before Independence. I think we owe it to future generations of Nigerians to continue to seek more fruitful ways of nation building together, rather than seeking the exit at every opportunity, in spite of whether we were thrown together in a marriage of convenience or not.

Guestlander:
Read the part where the OP marked as " Must Read" and tell us what you think.

I've read it.

- "The Yoruba people are irrevocably commited to a fundamental structuring".
OK... why? I say economic hardship

- "inaliable right to self-determination guaranteed by the United Nations Charter".
No country is obligated to recognize anything, unless it serves their own interest. Leave charter alone.

- "cannot be carried out under the present National Assembly... does not recognize the will of We the People".
Fine. You are welcome to challenge the sovereign with violence (which is its right to resort to, as mandated by its Constitution). Good luck. History has shown that the UN (I really mean the Security Council) only recognizes the side with superior firepower, and many millions are displaced/killed/starved while UN countries make money selling arms, planes, and relief supplies.

I've no problem with restructuring, and I will gladly apply for visa if Oduduwa Republic becomes a strong, prosperous, sovereign nation where I can use my talents to their full potential, where electricity is constant, corruption is minimal, roads excellent, and healthcare superb.

Guestlander:
The guy you reply is just being dishonest. How can you read the post and conclude the trust of the advert is unemployment!

OK, I must be mistaken (and I'm not trying to be cheeky).

Please quote the article and make plain its main thrust. If people were gainfully employed with good jobs, schools, hospitals, etc. do you think this advert would make any sense? Intellectuals just get together and demand restructuring because everything is going well? Consider the following:

"Everyone is eating well and is healthy, so let's restructure for some other undisclosed reason" <- this one doesn't make much sense.

"Everyone is suffering, there are no jobs, so let's restructure" <- this one makes more sense, which leads me to my conclusion.

Instead of just stating that unemployment is not the main thrust, please put forward a plausible reason for the advert. I've given you my plausible reasons for my conclusion.

Nasir123:
Employment is not the main thrust of any advert.

See,if u look around you,a lot has gone wrong with us as a people.
I agree with you on the point of shoving it to our rep. But like I said,everything has gone wrong with us as a people.

If we all can't see the danger by trying to pretend/be scared of restructuring, we shall face a bigger consequence in the future.

Like I said,we are not thesame. And we can never be the same.

"No one needs to be told of the suffering of the people under the harsh economy...
... aspirations of most Nigerians are not being met...
... the dissatisfaction of citizens largely stems from a lack of opportunities for self development and employment..."

Are we reading the same advert? Those are clearly economic/employment concerns.

And it's the bolded above that caused civil wars and continued strife in Yorubaland (and other parts of Nigeria too). We don't have to be the same to create a great nation.

Cretaceous:
Why sultan should be dictating to Yoruba Muslims when and when not sight the moon, when and when not to fast still amuses me up till now.
Low self esteem I guess.

Why? The Sultan of Sokoto is considered the spiritual leader of the Muslim community in Nigeria. Who else should Yoruba Muslims take religious directions and observance from?

Nasir123:
What are you saying!
Imaging you understanding.

Is anything bad with restructuring?
Since u don't have problem with the current system, why are y having problem with restructuring?
Are you scared?
Are you afraid?

Why can't you allow people to organize themselves the manner that suit them?

For your info; We can never be one. We can only try and understand how we can leave together.
And 'restructuring' is the best option for us base on differences.

I don't have anything against restructuring. What I'm against is this threat of "restructure or we break apart". OK, so the Federal Government refuses to restructure (based on it's interpretation and responsibility to the existing Constitution). Then what? Violence? Those seem to be the only options presented by "restructure or we leave".

I'm not saying people don't have a right to self-determination, but those who are clamoring for it are also calling for the other things that have historically come with political upheaval... and cynically, I'm pointing out that those who signed these papers won't be the ones bearing arms, suffering the loss of children, being killed or starving. More to the point, were the signatories elected/chosen by the masses to represent them and force them into something? You'll find that most Nigerians, no matter where, just want opportunities to thrive, no matter the country they happen to be in. Restructuring, in and of itself will not answer their prayers: the LGA chairmen, governors, reps, senators from Yorubaland today, what have they done to address unemployment in a serious, systematic fashion? How will things be different when it's these same people who will hold office in a restructured country?

I've also mentioned that there was a long civil war in Yorubaland from 1830's to 1886, (that helped weaken it for colonial takeover), which should caution those who think that Oduduwa Republic will suddenly be the best place on Earth. Recent conflicts and historical slights between (for example) Ekiti people and Ondo people illustrate that it won't be a bed of roses either. In other words: there's really no point in restructuring because the underlying problems are still there: poverty/unemployment.

I'm also noting that there are far better ways to provide employment opportunities than restructuring (since employment is the main thrust of the advert), and that even after restructuring, the monies spent on that effort could have been better spent employing people, today.

CampuChan:
Àgbà kìí wà l’ójà k’órí omo tuntun wó
Glad SW intellectuals are gradually standing up and please check the number of Professors, Doctors, Architects, SANs, Pastors etc that signed the advert.

Uh huh... and none of them will be willing to take up arms and lose their lives to defend this secession they are planning. Did they consult with the millions of people who will die (due to starvation, violence, illness) before making this irresponsible advert? Will they volunteer their own children to fight for the cause, or will they put them aboard planes for the safety of someplace abroad?

How long will our leaders at various levels continue to stoke the embers of violence from the comfort of their air-conditioned homes, and in some cases, from the safety of some European city?

And it's even worse: a Yoruba federation will find soon itself fighting for supremacy, just as Yorubaland was in the midst of a long period of civil war from 1830s to 1886.

The main thrust of the article is unemployment. Why not channel all the monies from these so-called leaders into creating factories and opportunities in Yorubaland? Is restructuring or secession going to automatically provide jobs and create industries? Can people from Yorubaland not sacrifice and not import foreign things (starting with rice, tin tomato), and instead promote locally-produced goods, no matter the quality? (at least to start). Is restructuring or secession going to automatically provide jobs and create industries? What about all the diaspora? Can't leaders in Yorubaland create special zones/estates for returnees to come and contribute in safety?

Let's even assume that the process will be entirely peaceful, and we can sidestep the years of violence and needless deaths, the funds to build/rent embassies, mint new currency, establish/convert parastatals, etc. to basically start a new government from scratch... could that not create a few really big factories to provide employment? Could that not provide loans to farmers to improve their yields? Could that not establish world class hospitals and research companies?

We like to howl restructuring and breakup far too often, because we don't really think through all the pluses and minuses. Even the money for this advert could have been better spent as grants to 10 young men/women to start a few garri-processing SME.

naijaman3:
Based on the comments I am seeing here, it is obvious that a lot of people commenting here do not understand how diplomacy (international relations a country's representatives abroad) works. As per international policy, the Nigerian embassy territory in Saudi Arabia or anywhere in the world belongs to Nigeria (not to Saudi Arabia nor the location country) where Nigerian laws apply (not Saudi’s laws nor the location country's law). Hence the rule in the notice is a Nigeria rule/law and has nothing to do with Saudi Arabia or their laws.

Furthermore, nothing is wrong in standing up against rules or laws that you perceive to violate your fundamental human right (the emphasis here is on perceive, meaning you may be right and you may be wrong in your perception) as long as it is done in a civil way. The law may eventually be changed in your favor if it is proven that your fundamental is actually being violated by the rule. So, saying that the lady in question should not speak up against a rule that she perceives to violate her right is not correct just because it is the rule. Not allowing people to speak up against rules/laws they perceive to violate their right will only lead to dictatorship. The onus, however, is on the person who feels that their right is being violated to prove it.

Well said. Unjust laws/rules are almost always challenged by those who were brave enough to speak up, and we must always support her right to protest. In addition, we never know when it would be our turn to protest, and we would wish that our freedoms of speech were protected.


That said, in this case, I imagine the courts would agree that security concerns trump entering secure premises will the full niqab, especially given the current situation with terrorism.

Guyman02:
That is not enough alibi to disrespect simple written rules and regulations. If they are so smart then they should challenge it in appropriate ways and not creating unintelligent scenes.

You are certainly right about that, no doubt.

Austinoiz:
You're cursing shadows...
You and your late friend know you roll with dirty boys but you don't give a damn cos shit comes into your accounts.
Truth is, if you don't quit the lifestyle, you might be the next target

Too true... the way some girls long throat reaches... I just pity them.

On too many occasions to count, I will toast a girl or take her out, and next thing she wants me to buy dress, or expensive drinks, or phone. Or if I take her while I go and buy one coke and biscuit, she'll be collecting juice, yoghurt, cake, and other things. If to say I was a ritual guy, I can see how easy it would be for these greedy girls to enter my lair.

Ladies: please exercise caution, restraint, and self respect... for you may not realize that you're the one digging the grave that's being prepared for you.

RIP slay queen, it's a real pity that money rituals don't work and your life was taken in vain.

Guyman02:
The Notice is for security reasons as a man can cover himself in the niqab, enter the embassy unnoticed and cause havoc as we see in Afghanistan were gunmen just entered a hotel with their weapons concealed in the niqab and wrecked havoc on people.

Curiously Yoruba Muslims are the ones who always go against constituted authority and claim religious persecution.
Just like the call to bar lady who refused every entreaty by senior lawyers who are also Muslims for her to remove her veil, wear her wig and go in for the ceremony, she went to the extent of raining abuses at them and calling them 'faithless' people.
Another Yoruba Muslim woman here refused all pleadings from even the embassy staff who are Saudis to obey the law at the embassy and she is claiming to be more Muslim than the Saudi Muslims in their land which is the HQ of Islam.

We have never seen a Northern Muslim woman attracting unnecessary attention to herself because of religion, they play it cool, dont raise their voices against men and elders like the Yoruba Muslim women keep doing..

Will MURIC write a petition against Saudi Arabia as they usually do in Nigeria?

I get the general gist of your post, but I posit a counterpoint:
the relative freedoms Yoruba women enjoy in society empowers them more to challenge the status quo than Northern women - who enjoy relatively less freedoms to speech, to thought, to dress, to education.

ps. I'm not Yoruba.

smulti:
conflicting identity on that passport

Names : James, chizoba. Onyeabor

State of origin : Benin city
.

Two things:
1. It said place of Birth.
2. Back in 1976, there was a state called Bendel (Benin-Delta) whose residents could bear names ranging from Edo, Esan, Igbo, Itsekiri, Urhobo, and even Yoruba. Even the same with the present Edo and Delta states.

What's your point again?

RIP to the gentleman... just one year older than I am... dying in a strange land. May we be fortunate to live long enough to see our children's children, and to die in dignity, among loved ones.

Well done. (even if the story is recycled)

Men, why would you leave your wife alone with young baby and go and start romancing outside?

Er... the president of a nation is supposed to carry all members of the nation along, irrespective of where their votes came from.

Appointing cabinet members based on political votes is very shortsighted, frankly irresponsible, and unhealthy for nation building. A president is supposed to be above all this, and crowing that you "rewarded a region" in spite of their votes... does not help the spirit of federal character.

InvertedHammer:
Good idea but it doesn't make any economic sense.
15 years from now, the $3k adjusted for inflation may not worth much.

1. it's not really the amount that matters, but the attitude and the lesson being taught. $3k is a very cheap price to pay for financial literacy that will prevent the child from making $300k mistakes over a lifetime.

2. if put in an account that meets or beats inflation (which hovers around 2%) then the buying power will be preserved. A money market, or CD would earn a bit more. Ideally, she should put that in a long-term stock fund to really grow, but that's not the real point.

Kudos to the mother, I wonder where she, in turn, got that sense from...

kingthreat:
Freeze is sleeping with a lady whom he has not married. Showing her off. And also has the guts to criticize pastors. He even quotes the word of God against them.
It's obvious this eggplant is a voracious hypocrite. As much as pastors' excesses need to be curtailed, Freeze has no moral authority to keep voicing his madness.

Show me a pastor that doesn't fornicate or practice some level of adultery. Those are the real hypocrites

kingthreat:
Freeze is sleeping with a lady whom he has not married. Showing her off. And also has the guts to criticize pastors. He even quotes the word of God against them.
It's obvious this eggplant is a voracious hypocrite. As much as pastors' excesses need to be curtailed, Freeze has no moral authority to keep voicing his madness.

Show me a pastor that doesn't fornicate/adulter...

People drinking panadol on others' behalf. Mr complainer, have you eaten today? Smh

But... "intensely obtuse dingleberry". Looked it up on google, and saw the second meaning. Damn!

If you look carefully, the towers are not the ones being demolished... the demolition is of a much smaller building.

Either way, I welcome it. If only Baba Daura would also demolish the ones belonging to his closest associates accused of corruption.

alexistaiwo:
I wonder how people find it easy to sleep with prostitutes.
Someone that was certainly knacked before you entered and will probably be knacked again by someone else before you fully lose your erection.


For those of you who will say it is because I haven't seen high class olosho.
For your information, I once won a bet against my friend.
He once invited my exact spec of girl who is a prostitute over to seduce me. So we both went inside and she undressed (as per the bet).
Tried as much as she could, she was unable to make me erected for a minute straight (whenever the stick rises I simply picture her in my mind like the slut she is).


It pays to learn how to control your second brain (joystick).

Right... and that girlfriend that you love so much, she didn't just call over her other boyfriend or fiance as soon as you left, huh?
The only difference between many girls and olosho is that you know olosho sleeps with other men... you just don't know about regular girls. As your post mentions, your attraction to her is all in your head, not whether she is objectively attractive or if others find her exciting. And I understand.

Oh, we accept you're doing your best... we're just also saying that your best is not good enough.

Just like a student who's doing his best, but still gets F9... which means they don't understand the subject matter and should be doing something else instead... like herding or just sleeping at home in your case, with all due respect.

1 year and three months... very good we are waiting with our PVC.

Whether he completes projects, or doesn't, no longer concerns me. For all I care he can dullard his way through 2018 until somebody more competent takes over.

This one na question?

Which one would I prefer to see in those pajamas? Not Toke that's for sure.

Solution: stop eating beef. Or only eat the ones from private ranches.

This is a cute trend, but we always have to think long term...

I can see this being a stick she will use to beat him later anytime there's small argument:

"ehn, I don't blame you, after all you were not man enough to kneel and propose to me".

michaelbiz:
To come on social media and make a full marketing of an adult woman is an insult on women. Obviously her beauty didn't help thus far. Nuff said

If you look at all the crap Nigerian men put women through... you would understand better. At least she will get some serious minded people applying from a larger pool (of course you'll also get body counters and demons), but you can sort them out.

HAH:
Marriage is more than just wedding, one has to be careful with such desperation

why not just tell your pastor or imam to match her with someone, must you embarrass your family

Isn't this the same thing as we've always done, just now adding social media and expanding the fishing pool. Once somebody is of eligible age and your relatives feel it's time for you to meet someone, don't they announce and start asking around? You see mothers colluding, fathers arranging, siblings inviting, and friends matchmaking.

In fact, this lady has what most men are looking for (which can only be verified in person of course):
- smart, and can help build a house with wisdom
- has her own source of income and won't be demanding 5k for hair or to send to her brother
- cute
- has a supporting family

If to say I no get person, I for don apply

I just wished he entered with his Naija passport, then the US can't extradict him, so we can teach him some sense. Idiot

Hah hah, Naija dulling. The Thai rice you're looking for is right here

        Nigeria    Benin
2015    644,131   805,765
2016    58,260    1,427,098
2017    23,197    1,647,387

Since Benin's population didn't double from 2015 to 2017, guess where that extra rice is going? So if anything I'd say Thai exports to Nigeria (indirectly) is still doing very well thank you.

APC should get some balls and run fresh primaries for a more credible candidate. Buhari ran out of steam in 2007.

Well, I don't know that the driver should be arrested... he was driving jejely, and along comes a hawker who - according to the law - should not be on the streets. Unless the driver can be shown to be under the influence (of drugs or alcohol), for then he broke the law.

Oh, he can be sued for civil liability, but this was an accident in every sense of the word.

dflking:
igbo girls is d ugliest have ever see

Hew!