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mufutau55:
Just like I knew this will happen. When there are too many Supervisors (Ogas) nothing good can come out of it.
The Client will realized later he has lost a Builder like you and Podosci. Use it as lesson learnt and move on to better thing.

Hajji M.

Iam even surprised that the many cooks on this project allowed the soup to be cooked to this stage.

banjolek:
I appreciate your clear understanding of what's going on, i have had accusations like "but you give your family money and stuffs like that" I have been really opened to her, she actually knows how much i earn(not a wives are privy to that sort of information) i just feel she shuould understand the situation we are in and all the efforts i'm making to better our lives. it really can be annoying when she accuses me of been stingy with all i'm trying to do. Its not like i spend so much on myself and i don't spend on her at all. i really feel she should be able to see things herself and not have to explain to her always.

Thanks a lot for your advice, you've been helpful.

When i read the initial post and the fact that she works and earns a reasonable amount and she was still rejecting the amount you offered, i suspected that it will come to the bold.

write2obi:
Your first question i don't have answer to.
To your second question yes i will,
But considering his history to be honest with you, i'll have to watch him closely.

When this issue started and there were several compliants, QC1 also said that he should be given a second chance and he was asked if he can put his money where his mouth is and he said 'Yes' and he did and also announce it on this same forum. I hope you know what he is going through now after spending N27m.

brag3:
Thank you.

I think you may be confusing feedback with character assination which sometimes happens here but it's your choice but I will say that I don't think this approach helps.

Feedback should always be given (even if it has to be bad ones at times). We should be our brother's keepers and not hide such info.

Just me opinion.

Let me say something too.

A few months ago there was a thread (I think it was dominion's thread) about his experience in the East.

When this thread was opened alot of people came out of the woodwork to claim they had had similar experience about 6 months ago. Some even a year ago and yet no one came on to inform others. They all did it your way and kept it quiet (or maybe told a few) and let the others experience themselves.
This IMO is not the right approach.

Feedback has two advantages. It gives the potential clients/people to avoid such situations and it also gives the Engineer or supplier the motivation to change their practices. This feedback can be what the Engineer needs to improve their approach.

Now I am not in support Character Assination but lets call a spade a spade.

I was a victim of brabus. I don't hold any grudges against him anymore. Infact I always hope he does well but look at this.
5 or 6 unsatisfied clients and we still keep quiet?? he has not accepted most of these faults and yet people say it should be kept quiet?

I think a good job should always get a positive feedback as well as some kind of Bonus and likewise things that are not done properly should be rightly exposed.

Are you saying you know everyone that contacts this quack engineer that did a bad job for you?

I think you are a much better man than anyone else on NL.

I cannot believe that Fastshipping posted what he just posted on the quack engineer and refused to give the name and yet we complain everyday that the country is bad. Is fastshipping a 'winch' to know the Nairalanders that contact this guy?. I do not even buy that yarn that the quack is spinning that it is because he wants to feed his family. How was he feeding his family prior to now?. Very soon, the quack will take up building project for a Nairalander and mess it up. Imagine what we are seeing with QC1 build. Can the quack do any other job?. Fastshipping is culpable in the fraud that the guy is currently doing since he has refused to name and shame the guy.

agarawu23:
I just laugh when ppl talk about water heater in Nigeria

No winter
No stable electricity to power it
Abi na because of ordinary breeze wey dey blow for just few weeks during harmattan go make me dey find heater?
I know we like to live the oyinbo life but it's not in naija were our expections aren't met by our bad govt.

I will walk down to my kitchen and boil water if cold dey catch me.

Heater for naija

The funny thing be say when you finish using the heater to take your bathe with hot water, you will now be sweating and will put on fan or AC to cool yourself and if there is no light for that, you go begin fan yourself with hand fan. I just dey laff for heater for Nigeria.

mavverick:
Another 40k received yesterday.
Outstanding balance is 100K.

Bosun/Brabus/N3xt, do you plan to settle way before or are we treating this as 6 weeks debt paid ?
Common, it looks as though you want to settle this in 2 more 50k installments, am i right ?

40k at once?. E be like say Brabus don hit jackpot.

Onegai:
Involuntary Reflex action or passing gas, is what doctors will say.

But you and I both know the truth! They are doing it to mock us parents!! Babies are smiling happily, thinking to themselves "hoo boy, ah kept mama awake for 3 hours dis nite an' she cried in tayadness an' dada kept mumbling 'I need to sleep, work is tomorrow', ah defeat both of dem! Ah will do worse tamarru, muahahahaa!!"

Or the baby could be like "hoo boy, mama tried tu put me in da crib sayin nansense like 'you're too old to be sleeping with us, baby'. Buh ah shock her by standin' in da crib an' dancin' tirelessly till mama vex an' carry me back to big bed. Muahhaaha, her bweast izz mine foreva! Dada put pillow ova his head an' say 'Oh God, in my next life, I am NEVER having kids!' Ah win dem! So now lemme slep an' smile an' plan for dem tumarru".

Something like that.

Chai, iam sure you really worry your parents when you be small pikin.

mufutau55:
Oko Afusa Oluyole... thank you very much.
The guy is good.. when I recommended clients to your friend and he messed-up the project for lack of supervision, whom did I call to go fix all the mess? It was Rottecch77... many other stories like that. So, how can I not give him my own personal project to handle.
He has never disappointed me with any Client I pushed his way... they all come back to thank me later... even a multi-level story project here on Nairaland.

Yes.. he has several other threads:
https://www.nairaland.com/1431031/best-price-tileswater-closetpipes-fitting/47

https://www.nairaland.com/1490198/affordable-deal-england-wcspanishitaly-tiles..free/15

See the lists of his thread here: https://www.nairaland.com/rotecch77/topics

Hajji M.

Does Oko Afusa, Egunmogaji have a new friend?. I know he used to be a friend to one internet-based builder and one bungalow-expertise builder turned duplex-builder.

mufutau55:
Hah! Oga Rotecch77 don expose Hajji M.
Nah you go make this mansion livable for me o. The seven bedrooms ensuite and Visitor toilet dey scare me sef.
My brother don dey say good things about your professionalism already o.
The whole world is watching Hajji Mansion o... and I am very sure you are capable of any obstacles.
Thank you for helping Hajji dream come true... Plenty work for us to do together in this mansion o.

Thanks to @Aventures and his crew who did a wonderful job on the complex carcass.
Special thanks to my good friend @Egin for his daily unrelenting support.
Oga @Spyder880 nko? No be small questions and answers before the carcass finish. Thank you Sir.
And @FastShipping and @Koppell - too much phone conversation (exchanging ideas)for just one Duplex o. Thanks guys.

And no thanks to @Beedam who is threatening to release the pictures of the mansion... and she no know the place sef.

Hajji M.

Chai, see poor man wen dey build seven(7) bedroom duplex. By the time he get money, na how many he go come build?.

Btw, why did you not mention that IT man turned Super Builder that has internet and theoretical solution to every building but cannot practically implement such solution. If you do not know the person, na the person wen wan build 4th mainland bridge o.

EgunMogaji:
Hello folks.

Today is going to be a day of quotes and accolades.

I'll be sharing the good, bad and ugly quotes of accolades for various builders on here.

Be warned though, done builders only collect anguish and serious generational curses. Hmmm... maybe that's why no serious successful build has ever been completed by some.

Check back often as I'll be cut and pasting the quotes and curses.

Remember, all information is coming from Nairaland

This gonna be interesting. As the Americans will say 'bring it on'.

mavverick:
10k received on the first of June, Balance 170K.
Bosun, 10k due today. Can you do the needful.

lastpage:
This payment has turned into "Akara Money" ....abi na wetin sef?

Na waa O! Abeg make "chariman" Brabus divert some of the Money he is using in building the 4th mainland Bridge and pay this guy-off now?

Lastpage!

erico2k2:
Inn my town we call it SWEAR money or How 4 do
2 bad.

In my place it is called 'take, make you comot eye for my bodi'.

E be like say na when dem complete 4th mainland bridge dem go pay this money finish.

girl4rmspace:
lexus rx 350

Is it a new one or a toks that you are buying?.

For me, i cannot have 7m for a car and go and buy toks. Nothing beats a new car.

rotecch77:
The total number of the tread is 14 and the riser height is 160mm total leanier meter is 4.2 and each meter is 27,000 then, so total cost is 113,400
But cost of leanier now is 35.000

Thanks

rotecch77:
Thanks comrade smily001;
Work in progress, we source for good solid hollow block for this project( very sharp sand,binder,stone dust)these are the aggregate we ask the block maker to use for the block and he agreed , although the cost is higher than common type of block sold around the area, 9" cost 160,

Is it possible you share the meters and what it cost you to do this staircase steel railings?. Also include the total number of stairs.

gbadexy:
My chairman sir.
It's been a while that I saw your post.
It's an honor dealing with you sir. You and some of my ogas here have a special place in my heart.

The Chief paint maker himself. People in my locality are still combing the various paint markets for those paints that you made for me for my project. I have told them that they will never get them in the open market and that if they are serious, the maker will produce even far better ones for them.

EgunMogaji:
Pardon me Sir, but I am not seeing the wood used for the roof structure drenched in carcinogenic chemicals and used motor oil. Are you not afraid that a killer swarm of termites are going to come in the middle of the night and spirit away the entire roof?

Please guide us/me on your thoughts and methods.

Haba Oga EgunMogaji, it is not every wood that is drenched in carcinogenic chemicals and used motor oil. There are certain woods that if any termite tries to chop it, the termite's teeth will fall off. . The price for such wood is not the same as that of the one that you have to drench in carcinogenic chemicals and used motor oil. I did not drench the woods used for my project in such.

mufutau55:
OK Boss. not a very good picture but you can get an idea. it's almost 700 sqm with the Gatehouse.
I used Traffic Black color. I wanted Vandke Brown but it was not enough.

Hajji M.

Chai, see poor man house. When this poor man come get money, wetin go happen?.

architectB:
Good evening,
It is just a duplex hence it has just one staircase with about 21 risers/steps.
The cost of the stainless steel railings was about 600k.
Thanks.

Thanks. Nice job and beautiful building with good paint and external tiles combination.

darchiplanhomes:
When i spoke on phone with my client during the design of this building you are constructing, he made a comment i hold on to. In his words "WE CAN ONLY REBUILD NIGERIA BY TRUSTING EACH OTHER" I didn't meet him in person till date. Its all via nairaland. I believe so many have done designs without meeting the client for once. Currently am doing a turnkey project of a family house(a kind of two semi-detached duplex) in Abia State for a nairalander abroad. Materials and labour are all mine but there are still layers of supervisors/monitoring spirits placed openly and secretly whom i carry along even when all the money is "breathing" in my account l. I understand why it is so. First i havent met this guy before and its an online thing so trust is an issue. If i come down to Owerri for weekend i receive call from abroad saying "i learnt you are not in the site" but i give reasons that will justify my absence and also assure him am not running away with his money. What am i saying, my brother its an honour and previllege plus favour from God to have someone who doesnt know you, who probably has a closer friend that does what you do give you a job whether it is labour or purchase of materials and labour. Whatever be the friction in the relationship which should be serviced by trust should not reflect in your tone of reporting the progress of the project. Try as much as possible to manage the relationship as it may not end with this project. Thanks

I think you somehow missed the point these guys were making. The project you are handling is different because you are the one in charge of both materials and labour which means if there is a delay, it is you that is delaying. In a situation whereby 'several' other people are supplying materials and labour and there is delay, it will no longer be the fault of the builder. If the builder does not say the challenges he is going through, he might be blamed. So, he had to voice out if secret voicing out is not working. When i was handling my project, my brother was the interface and supplier of materials. The Builder supplied labour. If my brother does not do his side, the builder has access to me and if the builder does not do his own side, my brother tells me. Even though my dad and mum were at home, i never got them involved because the layers will be too many.

architectB:
Picture showing Staircase almost completed...

Please is it possible you share the number of staircase(upper and lower) and the cost for this stainless steel.

EgunMogaji:
I may regret asking this question but where is Azuh?

He has gone to pad those chicken legs pilers.

abdulwastecx:
Upper floor block work

Can block work for the upper deck be done when the curing is not yet 28 days?.

podosci:
Work has come to halt this morning because the supervisors on ground have been unable to get clarrification and authorization from the supervisor in lagos for the purchase of materials ( Wood, nails, blocks).
Hopefully the clarrification and authorization would come intime for work to continue today.

I hope the supervisor in Lagos is also not waiting to get clarification and authorization from the supervisor in obodo oyibo before the materials are finally bought?.

AZUH:
what is this ?

A coop where chickens are kept which will include also keeping the chicken leg.

anikkyshaya:
Am from Nigeria sorry oga if I offended u, but mind you sir, I did not say your piller be like chicken leg, I said my own piller will be like chicken leg.

Why you dey say sorry to AZUH?. There is a proverb that says that 'old women are always uneasy when dry bones are mentioned in a proverb'. Chicken leg even better and gather pass that AZUH pillar.

divalishis:
We were on a break when I got the job. But he was supportive and all. Though he gets angry a lot of the time about the indignity of his wife having to beg people to bring their business. And also what people say about ladies who do this job. And I get to meet different people too...

Hmmmmmmmmmmm. Don't you think this is where the problem is coming from?. Some men are actually not comfortable with certain types of work that their wives do. Has he ever complained of this job or told you to drop it?.

Omotayor123:
None... My mum doesn't use Violence. But if she gives you verbal lashing... Chai!!!! You will prefer all the kondo and koboko in the world.

My mum has a lashing name for every child in the family, which she uses anytime the child does something wrong.

Going back memory Lane now, brings smile to my lips ***
I'm free now, but my younger ones are yet to be spared.

. Shout out to all the sweet mums in the world.. I love you mummy

What was yours?. From this pic on your profile, e be like say you stubborn well well.

Is your husband also a graduate and does he work?.

Mayor78:
@enugu6br, I doubt very much if the house is yours at least by your attitude of avoiding to address issues raised by the Engineers and resorting to command and bullying as iif they are your boys. These guys are professionals who have shosen to stake their security to travel from the Northern states to go and work for you in the remote Enugu village, Yes, it's part of their job to do so but they deserve some respect as well. It is unfair to prey on their operational priniciple of delivering any job they started if hurdles are manageable to keep bullying them. 'House is mine,' house opening in 2 months', Hajji M your invited', story of this house to be told'. Give us a break please! The fact is that the house is not yours, is not going to finish in 2 months even in 1year remember that the Engineers met some blocks which appears to have been there for over ten years and suddenly your bragging of opening the house in 2months, and inviting Hajji M if only that would secure you a temporary online support against the Engineers. Hajji M would leave attending to mature events in US to your mosquito infested village. Keep your sentiments bro and ensure that you supply the Engineers the necessary materials to enable them fulfill their contractual obligations. Stop being childish bruv! Every house has a story by the owner but you don't have story for this house because it isn't yours.

Gbam. You more than hit the nail squarely on the head. Just for a duplex and he is making so much noise like this and having several layers of middle people. If he is constructing a multi-layered apartment block, what will happen?. How does he expect the Engineers to work effectively with these layers?. When i was building my duplex, the only person that interfaced with the builder was my brother. If builder says that materials are not enough, he tells me and i send money for him to go and buy. If any other busy body person comes, i ignore such a person.

I have followed these guys abdulwastecx and Podosci very well here and have been impressed by their intelligence and display of knowledge and professionalism. To tell you how impressed i have been, iam now even considering pushing my son to go and read Civil Engineering instead of Mechanical Engineering that i have always have in mind.

Rhukie:
the only time you will be charged is if you want to terminate the policy before maturity ie 2yrs upward. the least amount of premium is 6000

Iam always skeptical of insurance companies in Nigeria. They talk very sweet when they want to collect your money but when it is time to redeem, it is a different story.

Rhukie:
my analysis will be based on African Alliance Children Education Policy. Unlike banks saving which you can withdraw from at anytime, you cant with from the insurance policy account cause it is meant to save towards secondary or tertiary education. Also it provides regular income for the dependent in case of permanent disability or death (which no one prepares for but life xan happen to anyone.)

You can have a policy of between 10-25 year range but not less than that. An a bonus of 3% per annum will be paid on the sum assured unlike the banks where the interest is based on what is saved. That means if you intend to save 6,000,000 in period of 10yrs you'll be getting 180,000 annually for the 10yrs as bonus.

if death or total disability occurs (God Forbid) before maturity lets assume maturity is 10yrs, the family will be paid 2% of the sum assured monthly till the maturity date of the policy. and all outstanding premium to maturity date will be paid by the company.

Also, the policy can be transferred to another named child and you can withdraw if you are not satisfied but you must have paid 2yrs complete premium.

How is the premium paid?. In addition, is the minimum number of years 10 years?.

beebee24:
about the marriage issue

we didn't get married years back cos we had nothing... I mean nothing, just his bed when I visited but as soon as I gave birth tins started to turn around and I shunned marriage when he talked about it, I told him I wanted to go to school instead... so we planned getting married 2017 cos I finished school last year November, while I look for a job this yr but I no see better job

we have been planning the traditional and court marriage next year July which is my birthday, but now that I want to further my education and he wants a child, we have concluded I try and get pregnant early next year since my mom has already given his parents the bride price list...

I never knew you were not married to him before i gave my initial advise. I will advise that you tell him to go and pay your bride price immediately. Why must you wait until your birthday next year?. He can do the traditional now which will include paying the bride price and then next year, you can do the wedding or court.

I can see why he is willing to be there for you as you were there for him when he was struggling and had nothing but let him take a further step by paying your bride price.