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Koruji has spoken! People like myself find it sad and remember the good will President Jonathan started with! Seen as a victim of the deliberate callous past, we all looked at GEJ as a difference, the background, the "luck", the no shoe story etc and the insults from Turai's cabal!

Yet today, most would prefer Turai in place of the lack of political will and the pandering to anything that can affect 2015 rather than doing his work!
He has made himself the easiest target on earth because rather than govern, abati and okupe and other online warriors assail even those who supported him with insults daily! And all we hear are excuses why the President can't address his duties (UN comes to mind) - very irritating stuff!

Imagine supporters saying they will buy Tinubu again in 2015? Who is better? Bribed or briber? Yet everyone else is supposedly unpatriotic yet again, you expect them to love you! And corruption has grown o much it now stands on 2 feet, walks into supermarkets to buy stuff and orders people around confidently!

Pitiable, self-serving! I need to go throw up

He also indicted GEJ and madam GEJ and later accepted to work for them

There are no permanent friends or enemies! His interests converged with those of Tinubu at that time, simple

Another perplexing thread!

Well, according to this line of reasoning, Wole Soyinka is also a Tinubu apologist! So is the late Chinua Achebe who distanced himself from the Nigerian government! So is David Cameron of the UK who wondered what all the money went on! So is the US department of State, Barack Obama and 159 million Nigerians who feel let down that they are suffering while statistics are being reeled out!

NOBODY on this forum can show one comment where I supported Tinubu or praised him! Yet I guess telling you now to work rather than seeing enemies everywhere will now make me a Tinubu apologist, right? Fine, so be it! But you are fooling only yourself calling neutrals enemies! Some just want a better deal from people they voted for!

But to you, it is only card carrying pdp members and those who sing praises of GEJ or earn money in one way or other from pdp that are not Tinubu apologists, if we are to tow this line!

I wonder what this perception means to those in power if everyone outside your government and ethnic group has problems with you! I would have expected you work at ensuring people see your policies on their tables, in their tummies and not come out to insult people's sensibilities by calling anyone haters!

If you call people haters of Jonathan, remember - the natural retort is straight forward, that Jonathan is a hater of the people since action and reaction are equal and opposite

Dudu_Negro: DeepSight,

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Let us picture a scenario in which bokoharam makes video release in which they threaten to visit Kano with deadly force for acting as informants to finger boko cells.

......., should this video be aired by the media or not?

Brilliance! 1 very honest [size=13pt]LIKE[/size]

So it is the National chairmen of the "merging" parties?

Yet the propaganda machine had chosen Modu Sheriff as the substantive chairman for a party they are a part of and implied this is Abubakar Shekau's party!!!

People are so dishonest and lacking in integrity in this country that we approach that time when, when greeted good morning, it may be better to go look outside

naptu2: That's why I mentioned Giwa Barracks. Please try and find out what was happening there.

1) There is no guarantee that the person will appear before a judge.

2) Even if the person does appear before a judge, what would have happened to him before he gets to court?

Aside what could or may not have happened, what of the propaganda effect? He has not condemned BH is a familiar refrain already - what then happens when it becomes "he was even arrested for terrorism"? PDP has spent millions on such campaigns and no reasoning human would trust "do or die" politicians with such powers!

Is it governors who agreed to vote then changed their minds when elections didn't go their way that should have sweeping powers? Or in a country where PCA is kicked out on spurious reasons because he doesn't tow the line? What judge will face these people after seeing "that"?

@DS:

Let's look at GEJ's own mediation panel - do you realise that it could be argued they are law breakers if they do have any contact with boko haram?

Which returns us to the real fear - that the above means if say, Sambo is discovered fraternising with BH, GEJ can say "he works for me and thus I decide he is NOT wrong" but if Amaechi (example) is, then same GEJ can say "I don't like his face so I pronounce him terrorist"!

Being a lawyer, you surely understand the concept of "definition"! The absence of such in this issue is bot to be lauded as it grants sweeping powers, accuser, witness, judge and executioner - ALL

@DS:

I believe the complaint is about the process of determining what "aids" terrorism and who decides what that is!

Todays news has it (for example) that Borno youths in "Gwange 1" are aiding the JTF identify boko haram members! Consider a scenario where someone decides the reporter of such news has, by stating what ward and locality, passed on information to the murderer Shekau (thus helping him identify his enemies and deal with them) and thus has fallen foul of this "open ended" edict! What if they now arrest and sentence (?) such reporters in lieu of clearly stated indices?

The ONLY problem I see ACN complaining of is the leeway this allows for interpretation!

I assume you are considering decency but in Nigeria, that is an unaffordable luxury

Sincere 9gerian: Notwithstanding my respect for Ribadu, its FIRE-FOR-FIRE, no slacking.

Why would Ribadu describe the govt of GEJ as a "sinking ship" if not to score cheap political points? Yes, Ribadu has the right to criticise the govt but I dont think sweeping statements like "sinking ship" or "urging the Nigerian youths to rise up and take the country" can be regarded as criticisms. If anything, it is a vicious attack on the govt and Abati's response is justified.

If Ribadu thinks the reforms going on in the power sector is wrong, he can criticise it and if possible proffer alternatives. Ditto for any other sectors. That is constructive criticisms.

By the way, what sector of our national life can be described as "sinking" under GEJ? Is it the railways, aviation, federal roads, health, education, anti-corruption, job creation, life expectancy, foreign reserves, sports, elections, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, rule of law, institutional growth and development, security, electric power,etc? We have seen significant PROGRESS in most of these sectors in the last 2-3yrs.

Take a look at the man on the street's stomach, purse and quality of life! And please do NOT go near the issue of security!

blink182: Neiti is looking for trouble and soon their jet will be grounded for no reason.

Find Out!:
Actually, Oritsejeafor/PDP is expecting him to do just that, like he did against Abati, so that they can shout ''religious bigot'' again.

Its obvious that is what Oritse wants - a law suit that they can then say is Islamic fanaticism versus Christian holiness and politicize.

However, God is watching and way I see it, Jehovah looks at the heart, not the Cloak or the pretense. Whoever is being truthful and sincere will be justified and the wrong party will be punished whichever is Christian or Muslim

Gbawe: Bro,as a decent poster, I would not want you to be taken in by the blatant lie of the biggest and most hateful conman on Nairaland. Scroll above to see my post where I show that Oyo planned to supplement the 2012 budget with a N50 billion loan. The Government did not go on to take said loan and this actually resulted in budget implementation success of 70%. Bruv, never take Anonimi seriously. He is nothing but a hateful criminal and conman with no iota of morality or decency at all.

I wasn't! Just wanted him to climb the tree past the leaves

I am currently in Ibadan and have been following Ajimobi as an impartial observer and I have stated on other threads that despite my misgivings about politicians, this is one man that amazes me! In another thread, I detailed meeting him driving his Acura with just 2 policemen and peoplehe had displaced at Molete were cheering him even when he stopped to warn that they were again moving onto the road - I was dazed as I expected booing and curses. Ibadan is changing

Garri the 1st: Thanks for exposing the hateful liar. I wonder how folks with such dark hearts manage to sleep at night...

Such people live via deceit. I was hoping to draw him out further before Gbawe called his bluff. Maybe he didn't know anyway.

Always believed prudence was a plus but seems Naija politics has turned it into a crime (when its a perceived opponent that's prudent)

It "DOES" seem like cheating to allow 2 and 134 sit in the same class!

However, even the Kingdom of God allows both wheat and tares to grow together until the Harvest as a number of posters here have pointed out in different ways.

Those who designed the "UNITY" school concept wanted children to mix and learn about others and those who attended the various Command, Naval, Airforce, Unity and Federal government schools are probably the most un-tribalistic Nigerians today, SO those schools did fulfill a purpose even if relatively insignificant!

Interestingly, by "harvest" time, the chaff IS separated so I think the purpose of this thread (While cogent) ends up defeated - simply because truly, the 2 scorers end up better (relatively) but fall by the wayside while the champions really excel and are the better for the experience

Who is bringing classified official documents into the public eye?

This mallam don vex some seriously powerful people o

By the way, even if true, it doesn't make PDP look better - theft and corruption is STILL theft and corruption

anonimi: For some time now I have warned my friends who happen to be propaganda proponents and remain blindly loyal supporters of the Association of Conmen in Nigeria, ACN that they NEED to stop LYING and circulating LIES to us. This forum is not made up of their usual crowd of Area boys, agberos, motor park touts, thugs etc.
They obviously cannot and do not want to listen and heed good advice, hence they continue their reckless journey of dis-information.

Last year's budget ALONE of N160 billion contained a provision for over N50 billion as loan:




And this is obvious given what Ajimobi's state receives from the federal allocation which flows essentially from Niger Delta oil monthly.


So the difference between the N110 billion "to be financed directly" and the N2.3 billion monthly allocation is the IGR that is taxes, levies, rates, fines etc from the hands, wallets, pockets, handbags and purses of Oyo state residents and even those outside the state who have aged or other dependents whom they support due to Ajimobi administration's failure to provide socio-economic facilities of

* free & compulsory education for our children
* free basic primary health care
* potable water for all
* cleaning gutters and clearing bush
* etc etc

Initiatives that will generate revenue & create massive employment down the line with an attractive and competitive investment climate.

Logically, the Oyo lawmakers approved the bill for Ajimobi to borrow the N50 billion last year.

It is interesting to note that the TWO loan requests from the governor were approved by the lawmakers after "29-clause amendment to it before a two-thirds majority passed it into law" in October 2012. That was some three months after the infamous trip to London for the "training" of the lawmakers' wives.

Any more mugus from (or with links to) Oyo state you are simply On Your Own -OYO!

[size=18pt]Wow[/size] - will research this but IF TRUE, then truly something is wrong!

Do you have any other links that support these assertions? Cos I have honestly started (I live in Ibadan currently) going out of my way to praise the governor and was ecstatic to hear he took no loans. If he did take loans, it doesn't remove from his good works but calls his integrity into question.

Please provide any other information you have

Pvt. Parts:
Because nobody is willing to lend them

Thought you said you had changed!

Anyway, this governor is doing a fantastic job and learning he has avoided loans only makes him more impressive!

We see him regularly drive through the city alone evenings and I think that helps him appreciate the challenges people have. IF (because I haven't been to many) this is the rate of development in other towns in the state, it will be fabulous!

Okija juju: [b]Most of you really do have a one track mind..

If I want to argue in line with Gbawe, it's easy.. I would applaud this as a good development. Akwa Ibom Governor built something similar and got rave reviews, which I understood because previously, they all sold under wooden make-shift stalls. Me on the other hand, I'm not impressed. I'm tired of these ridiculously stupid and half assed so called developmental strides that the government keeps feeding us.

Look at it like this... Just because an area previously had only a foot path does not make a graded road the best. Just because Ibadan was a hell hole 3 yrs ago does not mean that they can't get the best. Like I said, let someone get us the budget used in building this market and let's see if this market equates the the sum spent on building this. Maybe then, it would make sense to me. We need to stop building for the now and start building for the future. That's what places like Dubai did that turned what use to be a dessert into one of the worlds top tourism destination today. Stop thinking small. This debate here is not about tribe, political party affiliation or any other such petty nonsense, this is strictly about our collective greater good. [/b]

Your call for development is in itself, not a bad thing! However, "what would be the purpose of air-conditioning etc" when there is NO power to drive such? The boreholes in the market are driven by generators which the state graciously pays for to provide at least appreciable neatness. Who would pay for air-conditioning etc?

I think you ought consider the "target" audience before making suggestions!

The market serves its purpose, is neat, well arranged and maintained AND is suitably simple so that upgrading it WHEN POWER AND SUCH LIKE ARE AVAILABLE, will be possible.

don't know about 2015 desires but even if that is true, neither Aso Rock nor Amaechi would be justified - cancelling both out as equally wrong.

So the article stands on its own

Very nice, very balanced - a thinking man

Toktee: Is h on suspension cos he opposed to jonathan second term ambition like his northern brorhers or is because the opposition is trying to penetrate it,i think if this is the work of the opposition then i will say they will surely takeover aso rock come 2015

At times,it seems President Jonathan is tired of Aso Rock and thus working for his opponents. Declaring for APC might get him a beating in Bayelsa from Dokubo's thugs so he's undermining himself deliberately so he can leave quietly in 2015.

Won't be surprised to hear he has registered with APC

Sincere 9gerian: As long as this report is coming from Punch and quoting anonymous sources, it should be regarded as LIES, LIES and more LIES from the pit of hell.

Punch is now the "pit of hell"?

Please what is Saharareporters? Amaechi? Tinubu? Buhari? The other governors not supporting GEJ? Boko Haram? NairaLand?

Seems GEJ rules over hellfire or what do you think?

What does that make him, according to YOUR postulations? hint - sat**

More importantly, what does that make YOU if not a "demon", working assiduously, if you are right?

Why not just argue sensibly, rather than try to disparage everybody else? You just shoot yourself in the foot everytime

ngozievergreen: Yorubas are unsupercede in manufacturing wat Just go and sit down

Go back to primary school and at least brush up your English, your half baked dolt!

Anyone with half a brain would know what I meant was that Dangote surpasses both idiotic sides in EVERYTHING. And before you come back with "education", tell me what your education has done for you when with it, all of you keyboard warriors are no more than barbaric children, beating your chests over the accomplishments of your forebears, who would be ashamed to see their half-literate children making noise rather than bettering themselves!

Ojukwu will NEVER be forgotten. Awolowo will NEVER be forgotten! You are DOA even while alive yet glorifying in tribalism rather than accomplishments.

NIGERIA WON'T DIVIDE!

What people should fight for is regions and a smaller central government!

And all the "I am better than you" "No you are beneath me" is so irritating! You are all better than yourselves yet one man who is not even amongst both your tribes has excelled more than ANY Igbo in Nigeria's History in TRADING and more than ANY Yoruba in Nigeria's history in Manufacturing!

Does it not shame all you "we are better" people that what you call dregs (aboki) has kept quiet and shown you what a sensible non-boastful hardworking person can do?

Or the man-hours you waste coming here to insult people that are NOT your tribe simply by virtue of Biology, could be better used actually making a difference?

Abeg - this is idiotic, childish and totally irritating! I wonder where sexkillz that was making noise is now with all this rubbish going on

I wouldn't blink an eye!

Yet what stops Oshiomole from giving APC 96% votes in 2015. That's how you get back - smile (as already done), respond with a civilized statement (as already done) and wait for him at the polling stations (as will be done).

This non-stop politicking the Presidency is doing at the detriment of government will cost them more than any other. Way it looks right now, I doubt GEJ will get 15% in half the states in Nigeria if an election is conducted today. And its because governance has been pushed behind for politics

PointB: This stupid lies again? The land belongs to Federal Government - not yoruba! If you think you have say who comes or stay on 'your' land. You are on a very very long thing! Do you hear what is happening to your so-called Northners, start the boko stuff of shit in 'your' land and let's see how that works for you. I wonders where some of the bigoted children crawl out from. Your land indeed!

I avoid tribalism threads but this comment is amazing coming from you.

[size=14pt]So, Yoruba lands belongs to the Federal Government BUT South-South Land (and oil) belongs to Dokubo and his ilk?[/size] I guess SE lands and Northern Lands also belong to the FG making it just Dokubo and Tompolo that own theirs, right?

NL never ceases to amuse!

Bkl4real: Tinubu to address British House of Commons Monday


Former Lagos State Governor and a national leader of the just formed opposition mega-party, All Progressives Congress (APC), Asiwaju Bola Tinubu, will on Monday deliver the keynote address [size=15pt]at a conference at the [/size]British House of Commons.
The conference, with the theme: National Development and the People, will be hosted by a senior member of the British Parliament, Mr David Lammy MP.
http://thenationonlineng.net/new/news/tinubu-to-address-british-house-of-commons-monday/

The news says exactly what you are all hyperventilating to say, no more, no less. It doesn't say he is addressing Parliament so what's the quarrel about?

Pvt. Parts:
The level of tribalism here is too much with so much stereotype flying around on this site (and not this section alone) has made me realize that this country is in no way united. It has also made come to the conclusion that most of the posters here are no different than political thugs. There is so much hero worshiping of corrupt kleptomaniacs. I have been dragged into it as well and have made some comments that normally I will have come to be ashamed of.
Please, I can not articulate how dissapointed I am of some of the things I have read here.
All these politicians are corrupt and they don't give a kobo about you or I.
The civil war ended before a vast majority of us were even born and none of us is an authority on the events that led to it and what really transpired. Their war need not be our war. We need to put an end to this circle of hate and violence.

You submitting some of your posts shame you is commendable.

However, you need to be consistent in equal love for some time before people will take you as sincere.

Kudos for even trying. Lets hope you won't return to your vomit.

God created one man, not different models - we all are the same, whether Hausa, British or Igbo. Individuals are bad, not nations

surely, they shall gather together, but not by me, saith the Lord
Whosoever shall gather for thy sake, shall fall for thy sake

DOA

magaliyu: They wan take style reduce the 10,000MW promised to 7,000MW.

and then will implement 4, 600mw, give the attack dogs a bonus and their shout will be that GEJ met 1800mw and has moved it to 15000mw BUT the "opposition" reduced it to 7000 and transmission network can only handle 4600mw so another 16bn is required for "transmission" which will be ready June 1, 2015

Rubbish