₦airaland Forum

Seunpaul01:
What heck are u saying.

70b will not solve the problem but it ll solve part of it. It can go a long way to do things that will improve life. At the end u are the one with deliberate failure of common sense.

Chijeep:
hear ursef...
70bn is nothing but u r mentioning trillions here.
don't u know dat if u subtract #1 frm million is no longer a million?
u r just talking as if u don't know account at all.

Nobody said N70bn is small money or that it cannot solve a problem. But can N70bn solve a problem that requires trillions?... The reason I made my earlier comment was because several persons kept asking why Nigeria still needs to borrow even after recovering N70bn. Is N70bn now equivalent to a trillion? Is this now what they teach in Nigerian schools?

A problem requires trillions to solve. Someone brings N70bn, and you're here asking why money still has to be borrowed?

If you still can't see the flaw in your logic, then it's a shame.

Bizibi:
remove litigation and you will see 100bn can solve every problem in a state.if Scotland could use 200m dollars to develop their cities before the Commonwealth games in the past then 100bn is too big to develop a state in Nigeria.

The problem in Nigeria is greed,greed and greed!!!. You will be surprise what 20bn can do in a state.mentality like this is making govs to steal and inflate costs.....

The railway between abuja and kaduna alone cost over $800million (a loan from China); the one from Lagos to Ibadan alone cost over $1billion. Despite the fact that we have a major greed and bad governance problem in Nigeria, N70bn cannot scratch the surface in solving Nigeria's infrastructure needs.

Chijeep:
hear ursef...
ur 8yr old niece...
moni no go do ordinary local govt...
so y r dey collecting it den?
Oga u nid 2 sit n fink if u r among ppl who only look 4 excuse 2 support dx bad govt.

don't lemme insult u bak ooo...
ur 8yr old niece. ..sorry ooo na only u get niece

Like I said before, my comment had nothing to do with support of any govt, but unfortunately, many minds have been reduced to only see and interpret things politically, albeit in some of the most pathetic ways.

The point I made was simple for any sound person to comprehend (even children); N70bn isnt enough to solve the a tiny fraction of Nigeria's infrastructural problems (you dont need to be apc or pdp or even political to comprehend this common sense statement). The railway between abuja and kaduna alone cost over $800million (a loan from China); the one from Lagos to Ibadan alone cost over $1billion. So please tell me, what exactlt is the wisdom in expecting N70bn recovered by efcc to cover the financing of those projects?... How exactly does someone pointing this common sense issue out to you mean the person is supporting bad govt?

Oga, not everything in Nigeria must be politics. And please leave my neice out of it.

Euegene100001:
Smh u just writing grammar sense u still don’t ave.

Euegene100001:
You should say amen slowpoke

From your previous comment, your intellectual level was already obvious. But I gave you the benefit of a doubt by providing a simple explanation. With your subsequent responses, every doubt is cleared.

gawu1:
Better than living a life of a wailing wailer.

Oga you too, this really has nothing to do with politics of A vs B. N70bn cannot solve the infrastuctural deficit of even a local govt in Nigeria today. So why would any sound adult keep asking why arecovered N70bn cannot end borrowing in Nigeria?....

Euegene100001:
Smh for u .Keep living in ignorance .May ur life b just as Buhari has governed

Oga this isn't about buhari or gej or abacha or anyone; this also has nothing to even do with politics. Rather it's about a daily erosion of common sense which is fast becoming a scary norm amongst Nigeria today.

EFCC says they recovered N70bn + $15m etc, total amount recovered isn't even up to N100bn. A single 1000mw power plant goes on the minimum between $1bn to $1.5bn. A basic standard railway from PH to Enugu will cost well over a billion dollars, yet you expect N70bn recovered by EFCC to solve all of Nigeria's problems and end borrowing?

Being critical of govt mustn't necessarily entail flinging common sense and basic intelligence to the gutters; and reminding you of the shameful flaws in your logic does not mean I'm supporting any leader. Thank you!

seguno2:
Do you know your local government councillor and chairman as well as the constitutional responsibilities of the LGA

...and the relevance of your question is??

olayiwola4u:
They are recovering money on a daily basis...the question is why is Nigeria still borrowing money from abroad to kill mosquitoes?

I think EFCC itself needs to be checked by another enforcement agency.

Primusinterpares:
mehnnnn.... see digits... So efcc is trying to tell me we have this kind of money trucked up in CBN n yet our government still goes on a borrowing sprees thereby mortgaging the future of the country.
external reserve is depleting on a daily basis

Seunpaul01:
And FG still acquired loan from China.

Shithole.

How is 15 thousand plus Canadian dollar equivalent to 70 billion naira. Isn't that a wrong calculation?

Also, u see, we don't here about the $8m discovered by the customs. They have bury the news. Later they would be like, ' we are running a transparent government '

Shithole

Chijeep:
Audio money...

una dey mention trillion here buh una still run go China go borrow money wey we no still c n una still dey look 4 whr 2 borrow more.

...no lemme say Corona virus go catch una left yansh 1by1 ooo

Euegene100001:
Lol lies yet Nigeria still borrows money,Yet no light, yet no good road yet no good health facilities

When I see people ask this question all the time, I cant help but wonder if it's out of deliberate mischievousness or probably just failure of common sense. Cos even my 8 year old neice is knowledgeable enough to know that the N70-N100bn recovered (which is probably still tied down under litigation and therefore cannot be touched) cannot solve the problem of a even single local government in Nigeria, let alone a state or the entire country.

Didnt they pass the anti grazing law? Who is the govt of Benue waiting for to enforce their own law?

Why exactly are state governors so useless in this country?

Okeytus:
what kind of reasoning is this? this is a faulty one born out of hatred that is why you brought in tribe into it, Your mentality is one of the reasons why most Nigerians are seeking to disintegrate.

do petrol station deal directly with natural resources besides going by the OP's reasoning, an Igbo man can own a refinery because there are oil producing states in the south eastern region.

Just when you think the dumbness would end with the OP who was probably either drunk or just an illiterate (forgivable), someone else comes to reinforce the senseless outburst.

First and foremost, I do not know the tribe of the OP, I never mentioned nor referred to any tribe, and in anticipation of ignorant comments like yours, I ensured I gave my example using Enugu and Oyo states (I probably should have also mentioned Kano state to complete the tripod). So for the love of God, how on earth did you still interpret that comment to be hate against a tribe (of which I'm also even a part of)?

Like they say, "those who kill by the sword will die by the sword". You just exposed yourself as a feeble minded, shameless tribalist with your opening statement; that explains why in your paranoia, without even assimilating what I wrote, you ignorantly assumed I also swim in the same shameless cesspit (no apologies for my hard words).

Now let's get back to the topic; what the OP has said is dumb, and you just re-echoed it. Anybody from any part of the world has a right to build, own and operate a petrol station, refinery, food manufacturing business etc. as long as they get the required licenses. You cant say a man from Bayelsa state shouldn't own a tomato paste production plant because the raw material (fresh tomatoes) he needs will be coming from a farm in Kano (he will buy the tomato from wherever he can). Likewise, you cant say a businessman from Sokoto has no right to own a palm oil processing plant because palm trees dont grow in his state (he will buy the palm fruits from wherever he can). Finally, you cant say a businessman from Kano has no right to own a refinery because crude isn't drilled in his state (he will buy the crude from wherever he can, he would NOT get the raw material for free).

The reason Nigeria remains a shithole is because we have so many people (both educated and uneducated) wielding your repulsive hate mentality all over the place. Recently someone (with your kind of mentality) said they will blow up the Dangote refinery cos an Hausa man shouldn't be owning a refinery when oil isnt in the north. Nothing could be more bizarre than for someone with your brand of hateful ignorant reasoning now being the one accusing me of hate. Enough said!

Lol.. see reasoning!... So in essence, a businessman from Enugu state or Oyo has no right to own a petrol station, just as Dangote has no right to own a refinery, because their states dont have oil?

...and if you check very well, the OP who wrote this may even be a degree holder. No wonder they say common sense isnt common.

Sometimes I wonder why governors in the south are too scared to make statements like this or to take a stand. Kudos to Okowa for taking a stand and speaking out!

tsephanyah:
Verified news. DSS arrested okalie because he tried to defraud people. He is lucky Hanan didn't filed lawsuit against him in the first place.

Okolie was said to have employed the services of female accomplices, who could speak Hausa to pretend to be the president’s daughter.

After spending 10 weeks in jail for allegedly using an MTN SIM card previously owned by President Muhammadu Buhari’s daughter, Hanan, a security source has explained why Anthony Okolie was arrested by officers of the Department of State Security.

According to TheNation, the source said Okolie was arrested and jailed because he was using the number to defraud unsuspecting persons.

The source said Okolie decided to use it to make money for himself after realizing that the number was previously owned by Hanan due to the calls he was receiving.

In order to extort money from unsuspecting victims, Okolie was said to have employed the services of female accomplices, who could speak Hausa to pretend to be the president’s daughter.

Hanan Buhari's MTN number was sold to Anthony Okoli after she stopped using the line. (Channels)
Hanan Buhari's MTN number was sold to Anthony Okoli after she stopped using the line. (Channels)
The source said, “It was when someone who knew Hanan very well called and suspected something was fishy that he decided to report the matter to the DSS, who investigated and arrested the suspect.

“Okolie was held on criminal intent not because of the line he owned. It is standard practice that when line has been dormant for a long time, service providers reassign lines.

“The person who inherited it discovered who the former owner was and realized a fraudulent intent. He got some female accomplices who spoke Hausa and to collect money from unsuspecting persons who thought they were relating with the president’s daughter.

“One of his potential victims suspected something fishy when he called the line and the person he spoke with who claimed to be Hanan begged for money.

“The man immediately got doubtful as Hanan was supposed to be out of the country at that time and even if she was not, would not have requested for such money.

This story is the lamest attempt at face saving by the DSS, this has to be the dumbest ever. Even Hanan has denied it flat with her current confession that she had nothing to do with the man's arrest. Any person with common sense would know that if the man was truly a scammer like the DSS foolishly claims, he wouldn't be taking the dss and Hanan to court now.

This is just another classic case of overzealous security personnel trying to please oga by doing what no one sent them to do.

content208:
Don't be surprised that buhari or de facto president Abba kyari May be the one pulling the strings of the protagonist of that bill.

For all you know, Ali Ndume's opposing view may even be a smoke screen.

In Nigerian politics and security, the more you look, the less you see.

Yeah but untill then, its only an assumption.

Lewisalexander:
Buhari ur father released the terrorist the first place

Buhari na your father.. You know how I know? Cos una two get the same level of reasoning.

Emotionss:
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And has it occur to your that the senators from his region are on the minority side ?

So because his senators are minority, that automatically makes it sensible for him to start cursing out the president for a bill that has barely even been heard on the floor?....

A senator makes a suggestion on the floor of the NASS, you dont even attack the senator for a second, rather you just jump and start attacking president (on the assumption that oga president will support the bill too when/if it gets to his desk)... and this kind of reasoning / behaviour is what you call wisdom?

Emotionss:
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If you are as educated as you want us to believe, it should have occur to you that what this people are doing is testing the waters.

One is in support while the others is against the idea. It was a deliberate plot to deceive people like you that it was not their plan all along.
All the northern leaders are in support of it ( some openly some in secret) including the president.

So what you're saying basically is that it is a sensible thing to make conclusions based on assumptions?

Chuzoetoh:
zombie ur father dia! Keep supporting the dullard, if you respond ur an acute fool.

Na your father and your full family and generation you dey describe there.

klax:
You said what Repeat yourself You said the issue at hand dont concern buhari Pls say it again and again bro so its you the issue concern Lord where did all apc members came from Bro are you sure you are a Nigeria I doubt it.

A north eastern senator says they should set up an agency to rehabilitate repentant terrorists. Another north eastern senator from the same apc party vehemently opposed it, calling it a terrible idea. Then someone runs out and starts shouting buhari buhari buhari!.... How exactly is buhari involved in this at least for now? In criticising a president, is it a crime if its done with sound and sensible logic? I asked this question and someone said I was 'supporting buhari'. But then I ask, does opposing buhari necessarily entail that one must throw logic out the window? You may think for now that it just about buhari or apc or pdp, but this is exactly how people begin to lose it; this is justa reflection of the reasoning pattern of people.

Chuzoetoh:
it is ur brain DAT needs overhauling!!!

I have said what I have said; going to school (that's assuming you did) doesn't guarantee sense!

Chuzoetoh:
keep supporting Buhari, una mumu never do Dis man are you a mugu Wetin!!! Dem swear for you?? Haba!!! Is dia anyone in his/her right senses still supporting Buhari

To criticise a president, it's not mandatory that you must do so foolishly. And pointing out the foolish logic in your criticism does not automatically mean I'm supporting anybody. Receive sense!

The issue at hand does not concern buhari in any way, at least not yet. It's still an issue at the incipient stage involving the opinions of 2 north eastern senators and then you run out and start shouting buhari buhari buhari! Does opposing buhari entail that everyone must give up their sense?. Is it a crime if you criticise with sound logic?....

Like I said before, Nigeria's educational system needs urgent overhauling because of people churning out poor logic like yours everyday.

Aboks:
Bcoz he will sign the bill

If any such bill ever gets to his desk to be signed, it is because your senator, and other senators from your state and region supported it. A suggestion by one man cannot become a bill until your representatives support it. Go and attack your reps and senators first.

Aboks:
I said it buhari is the most useless president
A repentant terrorist is a dead one.

Nonsense

This is what you get when an illiterate is president

Very soon amnesty for fulani herds men

¥spits¥

One north eastern senator from yobe says an agency should be created, another north eastern senator from borno says it's a terrible idea. How exactly did buhari enter into the matter? The educational system in Nigeria truly needs overhauling.

PastorAmotekun:
They should have sold the house and share the proceeds to the kidnap victims

Will you buy the house of a well known kidnapper and gangster?... His village house, not a property in the city.

COdeGenesis:
The law stops the state government. Only discos are given license to distribute electricity within a particular terrain.Any other person who does that does it illegally.

But the discos are currently owned by private consortiums and any serious state government had the right to purchase them when they were being sold.

Flyingngel:
My bad I mean to say that the state government generate while the federal government distribute our power .

Yeah but that's exactly what I said the first time, the FG owns the transmission network (national grid) so if a state like Akwa Ibom wants to distribute power from Ibom plant to Akwa Ibom only, it needs to disconnect from the national grid and build its own state transmission grid.

The FG isn't stopping any state from creating its own grid, rather the lack of finance and/or lack of forsight (from state governors) is.

Flyingngel:
At least I know of my state- Akwa Ibom state is capable of giving her population 100% uninterrupted power supply bearing in mind that Ibom power plant generate about 180% of power while the state need only 80%.But what happen? the federal government took over the generation and distribution thereby giving Akwa Ibom abt 25% of the power which is not enough.

Something doesn't add up in this your story. You mean the same FG that has privatized all its own power generating plants has seized and continued to hold 75% of Ibom plant (an Independent Power Plant)?

You need to go back and re-check this your story. The FG only has the transmission sector now, so why would FG hold 75% of an IPP?

Flyingngel:
Instead of them to remove power from exclusive list to concurrent list so that state government can generate and distribute their power, if they have excess they sell to the neighboring state.

I believe the current law doesnt stop the state governments from doing that. But Which state has the financial capacity to build a brand new transmission network? To disconnect from the national grid, the state needs to first build power generation and transmission infrastructure.

Temptee101:


Always shifting the goalpost.

So it was the whites that voted in a disaster like buhari into office.

You blacks clamoured for independence, the same whites gave you independence, 50 years after, nothing to show except killings, bloodshed, corruption etc..

It was the whites that asked your greedy leaders and countrymen to steal your wealth and take them to foreign land.

This is the same blame game that the dullard in chief has been playing since his inception that has brought the country to it's knees

Nigerians and blacks in general can't rule animals let alone themselves

We keep doing same thing over and over again, expecting a different result.

You can't give what you don't have

So, blame your fellow greedy and self centered blacks and leave the whites alone

The red bit of your statement is a sad truth. Nigeria should be a great nation, but the last time we were truly great was when we were still ruled by whites; blacks all over the worlds have proven not to be able to organise and manage themselves.

ZombieHUNT:
Music to my soul
They should quickly impose the ban
A country that voted a certificateless cattle rearer as a president must live with the consequences of such calamity...
This was done on the alter of religious and ethnic sentiments and bigotry....

A country where terrorists and bandits are paid to stop killing...
A country where a rep member boasts of having countless children and promising more...

Shame on you all
A country with no power
Unemployment everywhere
Shame on you all... Shame on Nigeria

Spits...

Unfortunately we are ALL guilty of the ills you highlighted above, no one is left out. Shifting the blame to 'others' (just like you have done) seems to be our favourite pastime; one region accusing the other, one religion accusing the other, one societal class accusing the other, illiterates accusing literates and vice versa. This simply shows we haven't still learnt a thing.

I personally wouldn't want to marry a girl who can't cook, and I don't think I'd need a prophet or pastor to advise me on that. If anyone isn't happy with my choices, they can go for the numerous men out there who dont mind hiring domestic cooks.

Is it even a crime if constructed roads are marked in Nigeria?