₦airaland Forum

Nicepoker:
Now you are getting it. But if we continue with this system it will lead us to destruction. If the restructuring agenda can sell and implemented see, those regions with crude oil deposit will put up working refineries.

Just a point to note - I didn't say restructuring wasn't good or that Nigeria doesn't need restructuring.

The point I tried to pass across is that you should stop using lack of restructuring as an excuse to justify the ineptitude, corruption and wickedness of our leaders at the state level. The states have been receiving over 40% of the nations resources at least for the past 23 years; the blame for our underdevelopment doesnt rest with the FG alone.

With the massive revenue accruing to those core oil producing states (i.e. Akwa-Ibom, Rivers, Delta, Bayelsa), lack of restructuring isn't a reasonable excuse for those states not having functional state refineries. Even with restructuring, the ineptitude, corruption and wickedness of leaders in those states wouldn't still let them build refineries; they'd just sit back and feast on the larger revenue that would accrue to them.

Nicepoker:
I can see you don't understand the dynamics of restructuring and it's advantages. The federal system is not working.

Lol... I understand the dynamics of restructuring probably better than you do. Everyone knows too well that the current federal system in Nigeria isn't working. But that is not the reason we dont have functional refineries; the reason we don't have functional refineries is the uselessness of our leaders both at the state and federal level.

Nicepoker:
Have you considered the security architecture in those areas. But with restructuring security will be much more closer to the people. This is where state police comes in.

Security Indeed! Lack of security is the reason the state governments in the SS and SE and even the SW have been unable to get their acts together to build state refineries?... And it is when the state governors are given state police that they can finally be sensible enough to build relevant infrastructure?

Nicepoker:
If this country is restructured. The Eastern region can set up refineries on their own without waiting for useless approval from the failed federal government.

FG has been begging investors to come and collect free licenses to build refineries since God knows when but no state is taking advantage of it. Stop excusing the laziness, ineptitude and uselessness of governors on the alter of 'fake federalism'.

seunmsg:
The picture is old.

Whether old or new picture, that's irrelevant. The mere thought of the possibility of having a Tinubu/Gandollar ticket isn't only amusing, it's scary and ridiculous.

Na God we take dey beg Tinubu, he's a spent cartridge with a lot of baggage; he wouldn't be accepted by anyone. In the interest of Nigeria, Tinubu should better just pull a last minute shocker by pushing PYO forward.

Tinubu/Gandollar 2023!

seborrhic:
Does this okponu know what it means for a plane to crash land?
How can a plane crash land in a remote area and u are alive to tell the story and there were no casualties?
Arik air would soon come out with a different version of events.

The Arik story go shock everybody

Quite interesting how airlines describe these situations as "tactical maneuvers by our skilled pilots and crew"

But then, even the story by the actress is bizarre. How can an airplane that lost it's landing gear in Asaba suddenly develop functional wheels after returning to Lagos?... and then of course, it "crash landed" safely in Lagos?

Alex Reports and awards....

FamTomx2:
Na to just carry you do sacrifice for the betterment of Imo future!
But not too sure your dull blood will suit requirement..

Imo state was peaceful before you and your fellow pigs took to the streets to scatter everywhere (on the stupid excuse that Uzodimma is SC governor). If there's any sacrifice that can restore the peace and security to a once calm state, it has to be the blood of you political idiots running amok and causing needless mayhem around the state because you hate the governor.

FamTomx2:
Piece of trash from a demented pig, I shouldn't have been arguing with an old Idiot whom calls his mother's lover an uncle..

If not for the timely intervention of ESN in Imo state supreme governor would have completed his bargains with the fulani juntas,
We know your miserable type here who survives from the crumbs of BMC tokens..

Big thanks to ESN and IPOB for doing wonderfully well in Imo.
And their security job is well appreciated by the sane and freedom lovers

Sane indeed! A loose lunatic talking of sanity!

Bigchristo:
On top that dirty pussy? Smh Abeg forget matter I lose respect for her since I watch that porn video

Where/how did you see dirt in the pussy from the video? Haterz!

FamTomx2:


Press statement coming from a zombie governor,
A well reowned Anti IPOB inferior Rabble!!
Lol, ESN don show this man Shege.

This exactly is a major problem we have in the SE. Sentiments and emotions continuously overshadowning sound reasoning. Because people are angry with Uzodimma, therefore they support criminals trying to destroy the state, thinking they are punishing Uzodimma.

Let me correct your last statement; "ESN (and other unknown hoodlums and miscreants) don show IMO state shege!"

Kobojunkie:
If Mr. A had done that before his expiration, he would have qualified. Sadly, Mr. A was not able to do all that before he expired, hence the scenario.

The Mr. A I refer to has since repented and is living a righteous life. But Mr. B never had that luxury of repentance cos his sin was mortal. At the end of the day, the point everyone in this thread has tried to point out to you is that all sins are not equally weighted. Some sins are stronger than others.

Kobojunkie:
1. Repentance from sin does not grant one an automagic ticket at the end - Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46 - righteousness does. So, it matters little to nothing whether one has repented from sin or not. What matters is whether one goes on to do the works expected or not.

2. No desperation here. Simply considering the Truth as revealed to us all by Jesus Christ is all.

Lol.. still dancing in circles

Okay if Mr. A repents and begins to live a righteous and holy life, what happens? Does he end up in the same hole as Mr. B (who had no option of repentance)?

Kobojunkie:
The truth is the answer to this question is levels above this here discussion. So long as Mr. A remains unrighteous, he would still end up in the same hole as Mr. B , this where Righteousness has to do with living above and beyond sin.

Lol... Why do you keep avoiding the scenario that he repents? You keep insisting on what happens if he remains 'unrighteous'; but the question I asked is "what if he repents? Would he still end up in the same hole as Mr. B (who had no option of repentance)?

You're desperately trying to avoid admitting to the obvious thing which several folks on this thread have been explaining to you.

Kobojunkie:
Mr. A had the chance to repent but in the end that chance amounted to nothing and he ended up in the same hole, same sentence, as a man who committed the "unforgivable" sin against God.

Whether you commit the small sin or the big sin,the judgment is the same.

So what if Mr. A repented, will he land in the same hole?

Kobojunkie:
Mr.A had 5 years - a probation period which isn't guaranteed anyone really- to repent before his death, but be never did. Mr.B didn't have 5 years to repent. They both hit the ground, dead, at the same time though.

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There is more to the repentance issue but this here is to make it as simple as can be for this discussion really.

Lol... Mr. A has the chance to repent but Mr. B doesn't have that chance. This should already tell you that both crimes (or sins) have different weights in the eyes of God. End of Discussion!

Whether Mr. A chooses to use the 5 year chance he had or not is totally inconsequential and irrelevant. The point is that he had a chance which Mr. B didn't. Hopefully you will understand this English grammar one day.

When a young pretty girl in her early 20s abandons all young suitable bachelors to go after a rich but abusive old cargo, it isn't hard to figure out her motives. I dont exactly like judging people, but on this one, she should just enhoy her money in peace. Good luck to her!

Kobojunkie:
You don't die and hit hell straight with any sin.
Also, the chance to repent is not guaranteed anyone. Anyone can sin and die before he/she gets a chance to repent. Death will come when it comes so there are really no guarantees given with any sin,if you really think about it.

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Again, Consider the case of 2 sinners....

Mr. A is a virgin and a sinner. For 5 years, Mr. A harbored lust for his neighbor's wife. He had what could be considered an option for parole but Mr. A remained in sin even at that. Mr. B is a former believer who decided to curse God and die.

At 2 pm, Mr. A dropped dead from a heart attack and Mr. B dropped dead too from unknown causes.

Fast forward to judgment day, Mr.A. and Mr. B find themselves bound for the same places fo eternal damnation. Did it really matter which sin the other committed? Did it really matter how that Mr. A had so many chances to repent of his sin after all is said and done?

Lol... It's now amusing how several people are pointing out the flaw in your argument, but you just can't see it.

You keep saying "if Mr A dropped dead he would be in the same judgment shoe with Mr. B". But what if Mr. A repented before dropping dead? THe difference between the sin of Mr. A and the sin of Mr. B is that Mr. A has a chance to repent but Mr. B doesn't have that chance at all. You still can't see the difference? Amazing!!

Kobojunkie:
Again, Consider this scenario. Mr. A lusts after his neighbor's wife and moments later dies of a heart attack, while Mr. B lies against the Holy Spirit, and hits the ground dead moments later. Both men never got a chance to ask forgiveness of sins. Will Mr. A end up in with a different judgment at the end from Mr. B?

The answer, if you did not know this before now is No. Judgment for everyone, sinners and saints happens at the end - Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46 - and according to Jesus Christ, Mr. A and Mr. B will both end up in the same exact bag for eternity, regardless of the difference in sin and circumstance.

..and what if Mr. A repents? Why is it impossible for you to factor that into your analogy,

Common flu (catarrh etc) or even malaria can kill a person. Cancer of the lungs can also kill a person. But since both can take you to the same grave, does it automatically mean both have the same severity?

For one sin, you die instantly and hit hell straight. For the other sin, you have a chance to repent and make heaven, but Kobojunkie believes and argues with the world that both sins are the same?... I hail you! Nothing we no go see for this forum!

Kobojunkie:
So because the one sin, out of maybe 100, comes with no parole, means some sins are more serious than others?

Consider this scenarion, if you wil. Mr. A lusts after his neighbor's wife and moments later dies of a heart attack, while Mr. B lies against the Holy Spirit, and hits the ground dead at that very moment. Both men never got a chance to ask forgiveness of sins. Will Mr. A end up in with a different judgment at the end than that Mr. B will get?

If of all the sins in the world, one is singled out as being 'UNFORGIVABLE', it shouldn't take more than common sense to discern what this means; i.e. that this sin weighs more than the others. This your argument truly confuses me!

freeborn02:
Nobody is exonerating sinfulness. Stop being blind. Even though all unrighteousness is sin, sexual immorality is not the most grievous sin.

When Jesus said a particular sin will not be forgiven, what does it mean? It is more grievous than others.

Use your logic, if you have it.

Sometimes the kind of arguments one sees on this public forums just makes one appreciate the diverse nature of people we have in this world. A sin is singled out from all others and classed as 'unforgivable', but somehow in a million years, some people will never grasp the logic that this sin stands out from others. Weird!

HitRun:
I_can_do journalism

ChiefSosa:
*Spirit of confusion joined the group chat*

omo the confusion hit me hard. I had to read and reread several times.

Lol... money sha! Na people brothers and sisters and children and parents be these ones oo.

Kobojunkie:
If you have any objection to any of what I stated, go ahead and make it known. No contests here!

Crime A: Punishment has an option for parole; i.e. you can avoid going to prison if you are of good behaviour (i.e. repent).

Crime B: Punishment for this crime has absolutely no option of parole. If you commit this crime, you must end up in prison (hell) forever, no option exists to repent no matter how good you choose to be.

With the above analogy, you still believe both crimes are equal in the sight of the law?

Like I said before, YOU WIN!... Have a nice day ahead!

Kobojunkie:
1. First you need to stop confusing Sin with crime. Sin, for those of us who are of the New Covenant, is as clearly defined in the almost 100 laws given to us by Jesus Christ, God's Law and agreement between God and individuals in the Kingdom of God.

Sin refers to direct disobedience of any of the almost 100 commandments of God's Law to us, and the judgment at the end of all sins, regardless of how you personally chose to rank it in your mind is the same - eternal damnation. Whether a one is guilty of adultery or mass murder, the end is the same - eternal damnation.

2. I already been through this with others, but here again. Do you know what end awaits the one who blasphemes the Holy Spirit and the man who commits adultery- lust in his heart? You guessed it - eternal damnation in the very same hell where all sinners end up- Matthew 25 vs 40 - 46.

You win! .. No energy for this kind of argument abeg. Feel free to believe whatever you want.

Kobojunkie:
God never indicated that pride and hatred are the most serious of sins. Suggesting they are, this where God Himself did no such thing, is against God. No man has authority to add, remove or change God's own laws.

Also, if you think the other way around of what your pope said you will realize how wrong he indeed is. According to God, all sin is unrighteousness in His sight. If all sins lead directly to a eternal damnation, then how do you even begin to imagine any sin as being less serious than the other?

I'm sorry to say but if we claim all sins are equal, we only deceive ourselves. There's absolutely no way the sin of cold blooded mass murder can be on the same level as a 12 year old lad pilfering an extra piece of meat from his mother's pot. If the punishment varies, then the sins cannot be termed to be equal; punishment for some sins start right here on earth.

Even Christ himself tells us all sins can be forgiven except the sin against the holy spirit. Isnt that sufficient evidence to prove to you that all sins aren't viewed equally by God? What exactly is the basis of argument on this thread? Or is your position just purely based on a prejudice against the Pope?

Kobojunkie:
The Pope is wrong in claiming that pride and hatred are more serious sins because that claim is against God aka Sin.

How do you mean? You mind explaining how it is against God?

realray:
God Bless you Bro, always speak the truth and also is just another way to mislead people or to pack people to hell cos how can you say sexual sin is not the most sin when God says our body is the temple of the HOLYGHOST and also no small sin or big sin.....SIN IS SIN......ENDTIME POPE...MAY GOD HAVE MERCY....

Did the pope say it wasn't a sin? English grammar isn't so difficult is it?

WHen someone says something isn't the 'MOST SERIOUS', that should already tell you the issue is serious.

Anyone who says 'sin is sin' is simply deceiving himself. You cant tell me that murder or mass murder in cold blood is the same as a 12 year old boy who pinches an extra piece of meat from his mother's pot.

Mescana22:
He didn’t say It’s not a sin, but it’s not The Most sin “MOST” there is the emphasis for intelligent people to understand. Sadly Nigerian is full of uneducated illiterates who can read but don’t understand,

I think this his words are for Nigerians , we think Bleep is the most Sin while being filled with HATE and ENVY
Imagine the Hate and Average Igbo Christian have for Fulani and Hausa , but avoid adulterous thinking he’s keep Gods commandments
Lol

One doesn't even need to be intelligent or literate to understand what he said. The only reason so many don't understand it is because their hearts are filled with hate / prejudice / contempt against the person who made the statement.

Righteousness2:
The Word of GOD, the Holy Bible says clearly that the wages of sin is Death.

The Word of GOD clearly says Fornicators , adulterers and Unrighteous folks will not see Heaven.
1Corithians 6:9
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

Pope says it is not a serious sin.
These are the Last of the Last Moments. The foot soldiers and false Prophet of the antichrist are being revealed!

Watch and Pray that you will not be caught in their web of deceits and Delusion.

If you are engaging in sex outside Marriage, it is not Dating! It is Fornication! it is Evil. It is a terrible sin and will destroy your soul in Hell.

Immorality of any kind is Evil. Fornication, adultery, beastiality, homosexuality, lesbianism,etc. It is Sin and will Destroy your soul in Hell.

Sometimes it's just bizarre how people deliberately distort the words of others just to suit/justify their prejudices (against the person). Where exactly in that report did the pope say sexual sin is not serious? A man says "pride and hatred" are most serious sins; how exactly did you interpret that to mean "sexual sin is not serious"?