₦airaland Forum

blackpanda:
Did u bother to read what u posted. There is nowhere FG proposed what u are saying. It's only ASUU claiming fake news. Try to read without bias. Besides it's not the cost of fees that's the issue, rather the payment of same. If u want quality education it comes at a price. Harvard, Yale, oxford etc aren't cheap. What u should be talking about govt providing subsidies, allowances and scholarships to students. But ASUU doesn't want it that way, they rather govt give them the money so that they can appropriate as they like

Everything Buhari promised you guys prior to 2015 where was it written?
NOT FAKE NEWS, when ever I lay my hands on that secular I will bring it here for the sake of this, no matter the confidentiality. It was dated 2017 and addressed by the National ASUU to the state branches on what FG is proposing!!
Besides you're subtly opposing yourself, "Quality education comes at a price" you say!
Why then against the increment and claiming ASUU is paddling fake news. Even Ngige said it in this current negotiation!

blackpanda:
I never heard of this. Where did u manufacture this from

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/288089-ASUU-accuses-nigerian-govt-of-planning-to-introduce-n350000-tuition-fee-in-universities.html

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thenationonlineng.net/stakeholders-to-fed-govt-any-hike-in-varsity-tuition-will-be-suicidal/amp/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2021/10/31/we-rejected-fgs-plan-for-n1m-undergraduate-tuition-ASUU-reveals/amp/

https://www.nairaland.com/4762012/federal-government-proposes-500000-tuition

Read these links carefully, it's even on nairaland
There's even a secular I saw where ASUU wrote against it, and NANS planning on massive protests if that should happen.
Bro, this govt no dey sincere, these things are NOT entirely ASUU'S fault as people are claiming.
I think ASUU should let govt do that so we can see who is sincere!

Kasssandra:
And where would the government get the money for all that

1.Good roads....usually road tolls. But in 2002, we removed tolling from the roads, and everyone cheered...now our roads are worse.

2.Electricity 20 hours...when the government is sabotaging the power sector by forcing them to lose money by setting their price for them...instead of letting them set their prices....at the end, they don't make a profit to fix things and attract investment.

3.Health: Hospital fees are too low in government hospitals...and at the end, the hospitals don't have the money to imprve things. Plus taxes. UK funds its NHS from taxing people.

4.Security...the same thing. Our police polices people on one tenth of what New Yourk city polices its people...and we have 210 million of us. Naturally, ye pay taxes.


Or how do we fund these things you want? On revenue from 2-3 m bpd of oil which isn;t enough for a nation of 20 million people, talk;less of 200 million people (Don';t mention Saudi and UAE. UAE produces 3 m bpd and has 15 million people.. Saudi has 40 millon and produces 10 m bpd).

Or we take another loan?

Reality is very hard to face.

n.b This does not excuse Buhari, or bad leadership...this shows what a good leader needs to do. In addtion to actually fighting corruption.

It's either you aren't aware of the reality of things in this country or intentionally defending the government
OPEC's quota to Nigeria is 1.8mbpd.
Nigeria officially produces and supplies 1.3, remaining 500k barrels is being stolen everyday by pirates and TOP government officials.
A barrel is 100usd, 500,000 * 100 = 50,000,000.
50million dollars daily multiplied by 30 days is 1.5 billion dollars monthly.
Channel half of this amount monthly to health, security, good roads and electricity and see if things won't be better!
I said half, assuming they were just able to recover half of what was being lost on daily basis!

NB: These countries you were mentioning, read up their policies well, most of those things were on ground and people now pay taxes to maintain them.
Let them build world class facilities and roads here and see if people won't pay tolls and taxes to maintain them. Some roads in Lagos have tolls and people are gently paying. Second Niger bridge will be tolled and people won't mind paying as far as it will serve their purpose!

Naija4love:
no and they shamelessly call off strike because there’s competition now FG registered many institutions to canter their selfishness, more like FG divided their camp with politics, giving junior staff and others power to stay on their own. ASUU didn’t control all academy stuff now.

Hahaha, funny
Many institutions you say? The only one they registered and promised August salary and arrears,
Did they fulfill the promise bro?
They will register new ones and still fail to attend to the terms of registration.
No be juju be that

blackpanda:
Direct your anger to the people that are always calling the strike:ASUU. They will still strike again next year and still get paid for doing no work. It has be one a habit

Why won't they strike when a professor that has worked for close to 30 years earns around 350k
Bro that pay doesn't make sense sincerely!
There was never a time Nigerian governments are interested in education.
Go to neighbouring African countries and see how they provide loans for indigent students, work and study, e.t.c
Come to our labs and see rats, outdated equipments.
Please let's call a spade a spade!
Nothing happening is ASUU'S fault.
That's how it started in primary and secondary schools, now the private sector has taken over those ones. When you send your child to govt primary or secondary school these days you seem like a joker!
A graduate teaching in these govt schools earns 38k in my state. Imagine? What can he do with it bro??
And you're expected to work continuously morning till evening.
I CAN ONLY SAY THE GOVT HAVE SUCCEEDED IN BRAINWASHING US NOT TO SEE THE REALITY IN THESE THINGS!
They need people to pressure them, I wonder what will happen if ASUU has kept quiet as you guys wanted!
A govt that proposed 300k minimum school fees in 2017 and ASUU refused. Today everybody is blaiming ASUU
It is well!

ipobarethieves:
toh. If Bubu Nor go school,what about the shortIGBOman NGIGE and minister of Education. Are those ones DUMB upstairs ?

You for talk about the shortee professor VP first!
ASUU should sanction him if he's still a professor!!

They're fine but no be jersey dey play!

sinkhole:
This government is full of misinformation and information twisting!
Minimum wage is the fundamental right of all civil servants and to think it is just now that they are paying the adjustment of what was approved, over nine months ago and they are busy making it look as if they are doing anybody a favour!
By next week, COEASU will join the strike and the whole tertiary educational structure of the country will crash.
Sai Baba

I thought the so called minimum wage was approved in 2019? That's why the he said effective from 2019!

flejnr2:
It’s their court

Yeah, but not always!

The Federal government on Monday urged the National Industrial Court to order the Academic Staff Union of Universities (ASUU) to call off its seven months strike. Joined as a claimant in the matter is the Minster of Education, with the President of ASUU as sole defendant.
The matter which came up before Justice Polycarp Hamman brought by Minister of Labour and Employment, Sen. Chris Ngige on behalf of the federal government, by way of referral is praying the court to order ASUU to resume academic activities, amongst other prayers. When the matter slated for mention came up, Mr Ebunolu Adegoruwa, SAN, informed the court that he was representing Socio- Economic Rights and Accountability Project (SERAP) and that he had filed a suit on the same subject matter before the same court.
He also stated that in the suit NICN/ABJ/269/2022, SERAP is the claimant with the federal government as the defendant.
He therefore proceeded to apply that the extant suit be consolidated and SERAP be joined in the suit as a defendant, instead of multiply suits on the same matter before the same court.
Counsel to the claimant, Mr T.A Gazali, SAN, in response said the application was premature and added that there was no need for SERAP to pray to be joined in a suit orally in a matter that did not have its name on the causelist.
Mr Femi Falana, SAN, counsel to ASUU in his response informed the court that both counsel had informed him on Monday that they both were filing some papers.
Falana in addition urged the court to step down the matter to enable both counsel to file their papers and then return at a later date after he would have responded to the claimant’s process
Adegoruwa replied that the defendant had not denied the existence of the suit SERAP filed and served on them.
Gazali on his part also informed the court that his process will be filed Monday and Falana said he would need three days to reply to the process.
The judge in his ruling adjourned the matter until Friday, for further mention.
He also directed that the claimant should file, serve his process, the defendant to also file and serve his response before the adjourned date.
Hamman in addition ruled that SERAP’s application for be joined in the suit was premature.
The News Agency of Nigeria ( NAN) reports that the suit filed by the claimant is also seeking the court to give the matter an accelerated hearing in order to bring the dispute to an end.
The claimant also in the instrument of referral is praying the court to: “Inquire into the legality or otherwise of the on-going prolonged strike by ASUU leadership and members which had continued even after apprehension by the Minister of Labour and Employment.
“Interpret in its entirety the provisions of Section 18, LFN 2004 especially as it applies to cessation of strike once a trade dispute is apprehended by the Minister of Labour end Employment and conciliation is on-going”.
Various talks between the parties on different occasions concerning the ongoing strike had not yielded any result, hence the referral of the matter to the court.(NAN)

Source:

https://www.sunnewsonline.com/fg-prays-court-to-order-ASUU-to-end-strike/

Thedon22:
Comparing Tinubu and Obi is like comparing day and night. The difference is wide. Someone that just graduated from Atiku's apprenticeship wants to compete with his masters mates. Someone that could not change Anambra to Lagos wants to change Nigeria to China, and some people believe him. Is that not Zombiesm ?

UK colonised US, today who is better?
Mbappe was idolising C. Ronaldo, today who plays more and who earns more?
How do you guys even think, Tinubu is off his peak, he should go and rest.
All these tribal sentiments and lack of understanding won't help Nigeria!
This is exactly what you guys did and brought in Buhari, now everyone is feeling the heat, Abi una get separate market wey una dey go buy something

thebosstrevor1:
They say Obi is a very good businessman but till today still import ketchup instead of producing it locally .

Chief Eric Umeofia, of erisco tomatoes is a better businessman than Obi, if he was contesting for president, i will vote for him 100 times, unfortunately, he is not a politician but a pure businessman who supports local production

Tinubu and Atiku that lives in Dubai what do they produce locally? People that will have headache and rush abroad!
Or Shettima that was the Governor when BH took over so many communities in Borno
In your stale understanding, a good business man means producing locally whether profitable or not?
Why are many multinational companies leaving Nigeria?
Why are many US companies relocating their production lines to China few years ago before Trump came in?
Or maybe you feel tomato and ketchup are the same since they are both red in colour
Or because tomato is used in making ketchup?

People perish for lack of knowledge!!!
Edit: Get your facts right next time, just confirmed that your Erisco shut down production since your Buhari came in!!

JJuanMiguel:
FG employed ASUU,
The universities also belong to FG.

So far, FG have increased the salaries by some percentage and promised to include the next batch of revitalization fund in the next year budget.

But ASUU have so far turned down these offers, but always quick to lament that they've not been given any offer.

The case is going to court, it's going to end with the verdict that any lecturer who is not satisfied with the present condition of service should resign and apply elsewhere.

It has gotten too far, this demand and that demand, having good leaders is what can save our country (including education sector), not this incessant time wasting ASUU strike.

FG is still the employer here, any lecturer who is not contented with what's on the table now will resign and go and apply in Oxford and Cambridge, they should stop using unionism to pin down others who are realistic.

Haha, you already know what the court will decide?
It's the kind of mentality we found ourselves here that makes us reason the way you did.
You work in a company that agreed to pay you e.g 200k at the end of the month. You worked for continuous 2yrs, you're being paid 100k. When you complain you will be asked to resign and apply elsewhere if you don't want the 100k?
We don't have efficient Labour law implementation here.
In Labour laws, this is what will be applicable:
1. ASUU sholud forfeit the 7 months salary they did not work.
2. FG should fulfill their 5 year old signed agreement that lead to the strike.
Then peace!
FG will ask you to forfeit 7 months but won't fulfill the demands that led to it!
Who's deceiving who bro?

rusher14:
I think the public universities should be sold to private owners who can charge what fees they deem fit.

If there is no concrete resolution to avert further strikes, successive governments will not have any option than to do what you said, privatising the universities!
But both ASUU and the students may resist that one o, any attempt in this economy to increase school fees to more than 200%, students will repeat what might be bigger than ENDSARS, because once you privatise, cost of everything will skyrocket! Some lecturers might also have issues because some of them are not fit to be there, a private owner cannot tolerate their output and lackadaisical attitude!

JJuanMiguel:
It's this your belief that has made ASUU prolong the strike, but unfortunately you all are wrong this time around. It will be 7 months in few days time and a lot of lecturers are really suffering while FG they think they are fighting don't even feel anything.
ASUU can choose to stay home for another 7 months, I'm sure FG won't complain as the strike is not affecting them in any way.

Academic calender, admission and lectures, ASUU, VC, uni-Senate's and the various universities can do whatever they like and structure it how they want. It's not something FG will directly interfere with, that's between the schools and NUC.
So ASUU cannot use that one as a leverage.


What ASUU should have taught in the past seven months.
Let them come and teach it in the next seven months, they will be paid in the next seven months.

ASUU also did themselves some favor by turning down the alleged 200% fee increment, because it will affect the masses in certain ways, the lecturers are part of the masses too, most of them have children and wards in the universities and some lecturers are post graduate students too.

However, the proposed increment is not a guarantee that there will be enough money to fund the universities. Yes, students will pay more and more money will go to the TSA. But it's still up to the government to release the fund to the universities or divert it elsewhere.

The uni-senate's, VC's, e.t.c are they not ASUU members?
Do you know the CVC's have been approached last week to resume school and they with the various pro-chancellors proffered another solution of which the FG said they will look into, next thing, they are going to court! Let's see how that compulsion works, unless they will sack everybody.
How do you justify a government that have reneged on 3 successive agreements and they are going to court
Let them go, we are watching!
Do you know 4 consecutive letters were written in a space 13 months notifying FG of the agreements and strike and they did nothing? They did not even care to reply those letters bro.
Anyway these things are properly documented, for court's sake.
Let the same court that will rule that ASUU won't be paid (which is what is obtainable anyway), let them also rule on FG to fulfill those "time-lined" agreements which they reneged without any official or unofficial communication to ASUU on why those agreements can't be met anymore!!
If FG can fulfill those AGREEMENTS, then forfeting the 7 months will not be a big deal, in 3 months they will recover and be in profit for the rest of their active years!!
As for the increment in tuition, it comes with autonomy specific to each institution, nothing like from TSA to elsewhere! You get what you generated.
"Let them pay me what is agreed and increase the tuition, then I can even pay 500% increment for my children" but ASUU were not thinking this way then.
Let such offer come to the table again, ASUU will gladly accept it with immediate effect!!

PS: I am not a lecturer or ASUU member but I have someone at NUC.

OriOko88:

Not surprised. Na them. After developing Asia with Drugs they're now moving to North America to develop there with scam. In d next 20yrs ibos would hv developed the whole of the six continents and the Antarctic . Then,theyd be like "The world is a no man's land,we developed all the six continents

Woww, never knew husspuppi and that PA to Ogun governor were Igbo guys!
Anyway, we learn everyday!!

JJuanMiguel:
FG won't pay ASUU any money for sitting at home for 7 months.

No matter how long it takes, they will still pay them.
What of ASUU forfeiting what they could have taught during the 7 months and move on to the next academic session? Implying that the current year one's will go back and write UTME while the current final year won't graduate?
ASUU is the cause of all these because I did not know why they refused when FG in 2017 proposed 200% increment in tuition fees for students, as a major source for university funding! By now there will be enough money to meet these demands. I really blame ASUU!!

Well Deserved!

Laggafin:
But I tot he said buhari is the best thing that happened to him and Nigeria

Hahaha, maybe to him alone!
Both him and Buhari should be in old people's home reminiscing how they spent their "earlier" lives!

IamDietiesGod:
Wahala dey o. See how ASUU and FG are playing te n tebo (ludo) on children's future.

FG has decided to let go of peace and give vawulence a try.

If FG is interested in ending this strike soon, they know exactly what to do, -pay the backlog of salaries, with the 23.5 to 35% increment for professors!
Saying the increment will take effect from next year and you will not pay them 7 months backlog is trouble! Of course you don't expect them to agree to that! Many are in debts already and may not even have the money for normal academic activities and research without those salaries!

Laggafin:
Lol.. so he is aware too?

The fact is that they are not giving him the kind of support he gave to Buhari in 2014/2015.
And he should have noticed that.
Most top Northern governors appear calm and sitting on the fence!
They are dangling in-between Atiku and Tinubu.
You haven't heard of APC chairman of a certain northern state suspended for anti party activities?

Conclusion, Buhari has done overtly bad and has no selling point!

Laggafin:
We know the game.. they are surreptitiously working for Atiku

That's why Tinubu is campaigning with what he did in Lagos

The raging dispute between the federal government and the Academic Staff Union of Universities (ASUU) that has kept many universities shut for more than seven months will shift to the Industrial court next Monday. ASUU had embarked on strike since February 15 to protest alleged decay of infrastructure at the various institutions, as well as neglect of the welfare of its members.

A reliable source at the Federal Ministry of Labour told THISDAY last night that the ministry’s Trade Dispute Department had filed a case before the Industrial Arbitration Court in Abuja and that the hearing would commence next Monday.

According to the source, “The federal government has filed a case at the Industrial Court challenging the continued strike by the university teachers. This is in conformity with Section 17 of the Trade Dispute Act.”
There have been series of negotiations between the federal government and the ASUU leadership but all ended in stalemate without a tangible outcome.

However, talks between the federal government and ASUU finally hit the rocks last Tuesday after both sides met at the National University Commission’s office in Abuja.

The federal government had said that it would not sign any other agreement it cannot implement.

Minister of Education, Malam Adamu Adamu, disclosed this during a meeting of Pro-Chancellors and Vice Chancellors of Federal Universities, held at the NUC’s office.
Adamu said President Muhammadu Buhari had warned the government’s team involved in the negotiation with ASUU against signing an agreement that the government would not be able to fulfil.

The minister said the government had offered the union a 23.5 per cent salary increase “for all categories of the workforce in federal universities, except for the professorial cadre which will enjoy a 35 per cent upward review. He said the government had also promised that N150 billion “shall be provided for in the 2023 Budget as funds for the revitalisation of federal universities, to be disbursed to the Institutions in the First Quarter of the year.”
Also, the government said N50 billion would be provided “for in the 2023 Budget for the payment of outstanding arrears of earned academic allowances, to be paid in the first quarter of the year.”

However, ASUU and three other university unions have rejected the offer, describing it as “inadequate to meet their respective demands needed to tackle the challenges confronting the university system.”

Source: https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2022/09/10/fg-drags-ASUU-to-industrial-court-says-negotiations-have-failed/amp/

divinehand2003:
I strongly believe that this is just about one-tenth the total fraudulent payroll entries. I also believe that some staff of the Federal Government receive up to 5 salaries using phony names and accounts that lead to same person in the end.

Bro, this is part of the reason why many parastatals never wanted IPPIS, imagine as a VC of a school, your staff strength is 5,000 and they are telling FG they pay 8,000. The remaining 3,000 will be cornered to their cronies, some which are even abroad! This was discovered long ago with complaints but they paid deaf ears, okay today they have woke up?

Zimmermann:
Yekini Amoda Ogunlere is responsible for this…

Haha, wetin concern Agbado for this one again

Photographers can cheat for Africa
I don't blame the groom at all!

Kelvinnchucks:
Nigga said her salary is 50K... Keep trusting God.

Keep trusting God for 50k?... God abeg

Double of what she was earning before!
That's an improvement bro, with university scholarship

An animal is an animal no matter the training!

Omonieme:
We're almost becoming a fascist state. A situation where supporters of a candidate build a God like image of him, no criticism is allowed else you're tagged as a hungry man or one who doesn't care about the future of his children or one who doesn't love his nation. A situation where non support for this same man will end with you facing cyber bullying of the highest sort. We indeed are on our way to becoming a fascist state.

You sure went to school?

North wasn't known with this kind of bitter politics, quite pitiful!

SOFTSKILL:
You must assume everybody is a fool. The Osinbajo that you called errand boy of Aso rock and a fake pastor for over seven years! You want to have a soft landing with a weak candidate. The president of US is older than Tinubu and the country is still standing tall. Not the age rather the ideas

Sorry! You guys don't think straight
We are not on the same level of thought bro
So Sorry!!
I am just an individual thinking on how Nigeria will be better.
I have had a one-to-one encounter with Prof. Osibanjo and that man is utterly sound, the current fulani FG has grossly mis used and underestimated him.
Again, I am just interested in who will make Nigeria better, Tinubu of early 2000's is not Tinubu of today.
Can't you see that his health and memories are failing him already?
Then add extra 8 years to it assuming he wins, what do we have
Physiologically, many 80's are stronger than 70's and so on but he's already shaking with difficulty remembering, then add another 8 years to it.
Can he stand for one hour and address the committee of nations with comportement?