TPAND:
Why are all exonerating Ameachi. NASS shouldn't be blamed for a ministry's error. Ameachi never included it in the budget. The all uprising in NASS over the missing Lagos-Calabar railway still amazes me.

We should put the blame on Ameachi for such fatal flaw.

Bro we have passed that stage. The NASS have made Amaechi a hero and a true Niger deltan by their actions. Take heart man.

theshadyexpress:


and its you that have failed to reason, the presidents political will is not enough cos he can do nothing without the 36 govs and 774lga chairs,the political will of the later two was what she was referring to cos they are also part of the last dispensation, if your ability to reason wide is limited pls dont blame enlightened minds for it cos right now your ignorance is one of the many things Nigeria does not need

Take it easy bro. Just 2 questions for you.
1. Did the supreme court tell the federal govt to allow the govs have their way? (2) if the state's refused to save their share of the loot (ECA) what stops the federal govt from saving it share.

See as he pose like olosho wey dey do Selfie for hotel lobby.

Goke7:
which court is left for saraki to try his luck now?

Sharia court and customary court of appeal. I hear they now run to ECOWAS court this days. If all of these fail I trust he will try his luck at the ICC..

Mynd44:
Looks okay to me. Hopefully they will present candidates based on performance and not the normal crap

Really?
So whats the difference between them and the APC they accuse of running a sectional govt.

President - north
Senate president - north
These are the two most powerful positions.

When APC did it (even though they ddnt have candidates from the southeast) they were called names likes ethnic and religious bigots. The opposition painted a picture devoid of any form of strategic arrangement. The pdp made us believe that it was a deliberate ploy to insult the southeast and south south. Thank god for the emergence of ekweremadu.
This zoning by the pdp tells you that politics is strategic. You can jettison fair play when it becomes clear that it will not favour the collective aspiration of a pple. kudos to the pdp.

PassingShot:




If Igbos and their other wailing zombies would want us to take them serious, PDP should zone presidency to the SE and VP to the North. It is only then some of us will believe they are not the true slaves they accuse SWners of.

No more No less.

IVORY2009:


You're right on these bro, but my fear is that the Chinese might just take us for a ride and choose to give us sub-standard, due to the fact that we have no choice, dat is the implicatn I fear for.

You have a point but I strongly believe that the loan agreement I'll have some form of protection for both parties.

IVORY2009:


Bro you might be right to some extent, but be dat as it may be, think about dis, when you dont have a budget signed/passed into law and you are going to borrow, what does that tells you?

My brother the Chinese don't care much about that. They have their strategy worked out already. they know that our lawmakers are not reliable too.
Do you know that a large chuck of the money will come in form of direct project execution by Chinese firms. Believe me the Chinese are very intelligent pple. They know what Nigeria will look like in 30yrs from now. They are not doing us a favour persay by granting us loans rather they benefit more from the relationship.

IVORY2009:


The Chinese govt have a listen ear, is like you wanting to borrow me some monies and someone who knows me so well, came and convinced you never to lend out to me, with valid points to backup his/her claims.

Like the Chinese need someone to tell them about Nigeria ba. Tell me you are not serious bro. A lil education sir. As part of the Chinese trade and investment strategy, the penetration of Africa is a core aspect. It is a deliberate policy to overthrow the west.
Maybe you should have a rethink brother.

Polar3:


our intertion for naija is to be free and have equal rights and opportunities with those who pillage and plunder our niger delta resources mainly for their own gud,ppl who see themselves as 1st class citizens; our intention is for naija to practise true and fiscal federilism and resource control that will set all regions on their toes to work harder and be creative and desist from parasitism..nobody will have to go to aso rock with cap in hand,begging for what God has given to you;.. Our intention is to develop ourselves with our God given natural resources in our region in naija.....
So whats ur intention,is it continous parasitism?
TkesterA

I stand with you on this 100%. But recent events have (like Calabar - Lagos rail) have shown that our leaders are not patriotic. They cared about their stomach alone. For me, the first port of call should be purging ourselves inside out. By purge, I mean Pursuing a grand design that will eventually usher in selfless leaders who will project our aspirations to a logical end.

Naijacitizen:
Interesting thread for IPOB YOOTS.....Lemme bookmark this thread for future reference for the day to come when mission intended failed.

It's mission accomplished for them already.
Eyes go clear them when matter start. The same bible that says 'children obey your parents' also says 'parents do not provoke your children to anger'.
When case start dem go know say something like action and reaction dey physics.

cyberguy72:
Zombie over 400 Shiites were given mass burial last week,killed by ur tyrant "BUBU d senile one "

Like you cared about the Shiites. Y'all pointing fingers here and there forgetting you have your backs exposed. GEJ/Ihejirika also killed Shiites too for your info. Some pple gets a boner whenever buhari's name is mentioned. Whoever said the investigation will be restricted to this admin alone. Let's wait and see how things unfold.

Pdp will always have an agenda. Yar Adua came with 5 point agenda. GEJ's own was transformation agenda. I guess the pdp agenda this time around is one point agenda of pulling buhari down. If you doubt me ask the tweeter senator.

Pidggin:
Wherever there are APC members in charge there must be confusion. At this rate the budget will be signed by Dec 2016.

Wake up.

StOla:
Yet some foolish Southerners are supporting the same Jibrin against Amaechi, claiming that the Coastal Railway was not in the original budget.

Are Jibrin' s and Dogora's project in the original budget?
Were they included in any subsequent amendment like Amaechi did for the coastal railway?
Did the relevant ministers defend those projects during the budget defence?

Lastly, did Jibrin wait for a supplementary budget before inserting his own personal projects outside the statutory allocation for constituency projects? Yet the same Jibrin is telling Amaechi and the President to wait till a new supplementary budget is raised by the executive before a critical project can be approved.

The problem with hate is that people self-destruct, thinking they are hurting their enemies. Some are determined that Buhari must not achieve anything good within their political domain, as if he was responsible for the failure of their own son on home soil.

Buhari and Amaechi may never need to use the coastal railway in their lifetime, but the supposed beneficiaries are supporting the arguments of the very person who has robbed them to make his own people happy.

Years from now, a new generation of Southern bigots would proclaim that the North allocated lots of infrastructural projects to themselves, oblivious of the self-hate that caused their own neglect.

Apt.

I hope my brothers from Israel will get the import.

gretblue:

You've spoken well my Brother.20yrs to come the infrastructure or lack of it will be the only legacy left for us not PMB or Amechi.

This whole thing has opened my eyes to the political workings of the Nigerian state. I can only imagine how much we have lost due to this kind of behaviour put up by our lawmakers.

ziccoit:


My brother, we need to purge the National Assembly off those criminals. Imagine the level of corruption. I'm very sure Jibrin will never carry out those proposed projects, the monies allocated to various projects are going to end up in his pocket.

I can confirm to you that 25m Naira was allocated to a secondary school in my areas in 2015 budget, till this morning no single classroom has been built. Consistency project is a fraud, I'm not even sure it's captured in our constitution.

It is as unconstitutional as it sounds. This practice was allowed because we had an equally compromised executive in the past. You can see clearly where all the dust is coming from. Curruption will always fight back.

uduak2016:


You are such a deceptive, mischievous creature. You SW people have been mischievously selling or rather ressurenting this project with evil intent...deceiving SE that it will stop in Onitsha and then Asaba...YOU ARE LIAR! You guys do this intentionally to sell it to SE! SE senators along with SS decided to remove the project BECAUSE IT DID NOT CROSS INTO SE...OKAY!

Below is the image of the actual route by Nigeria Coastal Railway! STOP POSTING THE FAKE DRAWING SHOWING RAIL STOP IN SE...YOU LIAR!

How old are you? No offense pls.

TippyTop:
Million months to appoint minister another millennia to get our budget right.

When illiterates rule the poor suffers: Karl Marx.

Just wondering who the real illiterate is here. One "illiterate" refused to sign a padded budget that was passed with bad intention, another ILLITERATE calls him an "illiterate" because he decides to ask questions bfor appending his signature on a suspicious document.
Who do you think in all honesty is the real illiterate?

On top of this kind of mess, some of our senators were shouting Calabar - Lagos rail was not in the original budget. Some of them sleep on tweeter preaching commonsense which they do not have. Some say they are biafrans so no need for govt of the "ZOO" to build a mega infrastructure like a railway in their region especially when a certain Amaechi and buhari will champion it. Yet others are busy sponsoring bills that will amend the cct and ccb acts. Not forgetting those who have thrown their weight behind the grazing bill for herdsmen.

This goes to show that they were never elected in the first place. They just imposed themselves on us. How else will you explain a situation where a former gov will suddenly bcom the best man for the Senate as soon as he finishes looting his state treasury. I bet you, if these were the crop of lawmakers we had duridng the obj infamous 3rd term days, obj would have become a dictator by now.
The ones that are not sleeping in the chamber are busy running down amaeachi as if Amaechi is the landlord of the south south and south east. Pathetic.

englishmart:
they should just go to court and have it postponed till 2017.. We are already used to this despondent change

Inconclusive elections
Inconclusive budget
Inconclusive president
Inconclusive country
Inconclusive conclusion

Stale. Nothing to take home.

Trailblazer1:
show us the men behind "Budget padding"

They are all in the national assembly.

bejeiodus:
What do you suggest should be done? This issue has lingered on for too long. The absence of a budget is having a deleterious effect on all facets of our national life.

I suggest we throw out Weight behind the president to teach these legislooters some rare democratic lessons. Pple that are suppose to be making laws are busy allocating projects and resources to themselves. Are you aware that the national assembly annual budget is higher than that of 21 states of the federation @150billion. Yet they wont allow the executive be.

bejeiodus:
The budget ab initio was not meticulously put together. That was what necessitated the 'stealing' of the budget from the National Assembly to correct the errors in it. With the current impasse between the executive and the legislative arms of government, I don't think there is an end in sight to this imbroglio. While the trading of blames between the two arms continues, those who they all swore to serve continue to live in privation.

The budget of any country is an executive property. Nigerian legislators should stop trying to make a shine of it. The executive arm of govt runs the show in any democracy so our law makers should understand this fact. Good to know they have said they are not rubber stamp legislature like their counterparts at state level but that still doesn't take away the fact that they have crossed their bound. On the other hand, the executive should know that nothing is cast in stone. You win some, you lose some.
Beyond anything, the legislators are very unpatriotic set of thieves. If you know them you wont argue Om their behalf. They make so much money in kickbacks from MDAs that any alteration to the rule is met with stiff opposition. If you like reduce their salaries and allowances to peanuts, they will still fight to get in there. Ever heard the word juicy committee? Food for thought...

bejeiodus:
The President should take a cue from this by getting down from his high horse and pen his signature to the budget. Provisions can then be made for the Lagos-Calabar rail in a supplementary budget. We have had enough of this ping-pong of blames between both arms of government.

The issue transcends the presidents signature. How do u expect t him to sign a document he cannot work with. I think we need to understand the issues Realy. Lemme break it down. Money was taking from projects marked for completion by the executive sighing a period of time. The legislators on the other hand removed money from the marked projects and allocate some of this money totheir own projects without the consent of the executive who will be held responsible for the baudget . Now tell me if that was the right thing to do.
Dogara himself doesnt know the truth of what his men did. Remember the issue of farouk lawan? He was defended by the speaker till otedola presented his facts.

LadyExcellency:
I make bold to say that the highly rated professor is emphatically wrong in this one.

Does it mean that NDDC is illegal since it was totally opposed by the Executive and made to exist by the courageous NASS that overturned Obasanjo's veto?

Democracy is a representative government and moreover, Buhari wasn't an independent candidate.

No ma, it was obj that brought in nddc. Which legislators are you talking about. On the other hand, The senators veered off their lane completely when they started appropriating and allocating funds which is clearly out of their mandate.
The prof is right and you are wrong.

sLentlover7778:
A round of applause...

I never still believe, until when Buhari come back and tell us with his mouth. That's if he no forget.

Hahahahahaha. You just made my day. What a comic relief. Too much hassles abeg make person laff small.

[quote author=TonyeBarcanista post=44632592]There is no record to show that the project was "originally' budgeted for. Instead, record shows that the step by Amaechi was a after thought. If Buhari was sincere he would have formally requested that the project be added and the process was not through Ashafa.[/quotel]

I think the budget office has put paid to your assertion that it was an afterthought. Recall that the amended budget was sent straight to the various committees by the executive. Amaechi only went there to defend what was submitted by the executive. It is out of this world that Amaechi will submit a supplementary budget to just the land transport committee. They wont accept it if Amaechi had been the one who made the amendment. Pls do some more findings on this issue.
Those who reallocated the funds and the southern senators who allowed them are the real enemies of the Niger delta and Nigeria.

[quote author=sammysammy111 post=44641464][/quote]

Tnx.

DoTheNeedful:
I was expecting a very objective analysis and explanation supported with facts and figures but I am disappointed. The @op is highly sentimental and partisan. Can't we have robust debate in this politics section without getting this low?
@Seun,you need to audit your moderators. Many of them are not fit for the job. I am highly disappointed at the type of threads hitting frontpage these days.

You have said it all. How on earth did such a sentimental and bias post make front page. Somebody wakes up in the morning poured his hatred on another and a mod brought it here. The mods on this forum must be very dull. What happened to objective writing. The op's points are so flawed that I couldn't believe I was actually reading from the front page. Seun, pls save nairaland befor mediocres turn it around.

sammysammy111:
Popcorns are normally fried in the
same pot, in the same oil, at the
same time and under the same heat
conditions. But they do not all pop at
the same time.
When flood comes, fish eat ants.
When flood recedes, ants eat fish.
Only time matters.
To make soap, oil is required. But to
clean oil, soap is required.
This is the irony of life. Everybody
needs
somebody at any one point in time.
Do not despise or treat anyone with
scorn when they are excelling or
failing more than you. There is time
for EVERYTHING and for EVERYONE.
Keep TRUSTING in God and WAITING
for your turn.
Your time to POP will come at God's
appointed time. NEVER GIVE UP .

Pls I will like to share this on my Facebook wall of you don't mind.
Thought provoking.

GudluckIBB:


U suppose know na.
Ize iyamu And Lucky killed Edo. U recalled he was the Chief of staff to lucky.
Anything that has to do with lucky should be casted out from Edo state.
Forget the pastor title. Its just normenclature

My brother you are right oooo. He was actually chief of staff in lucky's administration. God save Edo state.