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@Babyosisi: Have you engaged the man on the site in any way. What is it that you disagree with and why. Is it because it is a thesis that is against the grain of the christian beliefs.

Since you are a Doctor of medicine, what do you think about the many medical topics in the Qur'an. Some are really expounded upon on the site.

@Mamaput: Fast starts sometimes before Sunrise. Fast starts when the light of the new day (The light is coming from above), is about to begin to merge (as if it is about to touch the darkness of the vanishing night of the old day), with the darkness that is ground rising to the heaven.

Breaking of fast is immediately after the Sun sets. Regardless of Summer or Winter, the rules are strictly observed in Islam; for fasting and other.

@Havila: Why not propose your argument to the man on the Website. It is believe that the man will be happy to engage you on this topic, or any other.

Although, I find your argument very weak, but I will like to see how he tackles your thesis.

@Babyosisi; What did I do. Afterall, you have clearly noted that Islam allows 4 for a man under strict guideline. Whats the complaint about.

However, please visit WWW.answering-christianity.com.
I wish you well.

@Backslider: I went to your recommended site. Am I surprised that it is from a French/Swiss writer? No. You see, I developed a close friendship with one of the french /swiss nobilities from 1986 January, but this relationship that went through many experiences came to a crashing end in 2003.

Why. From immediately after 911, it was as if this man became Mr. hyde! He criticized me every which was he could. My religion was always the subject of discussion with him. Yet, I have always been Muslim and this was not new to him.

I also have an Hindu friend in London from the nobilities. His father was like the ruler of a province during the British rule. We often have frank talks with each other. Immediately after the recent unrest in India, we talked about it. I did ask him what was the history of the Muslims in India. he never spoke about what your french spoke about.

I wonder if the Muslims had such a great upperhand and used it against the 'Poor non muslim Indians', please tell me why was it that Muslims before Pakistanin/Bangladeshi break way were not the majority?

Do you know that the Taj mahal was built by a Muslim King. For me, if I were to rule the Yoruba land for example, infact, Nigeria or the world, my primary interest will be to destroy all statues, worshipped or otherwise. I think statues serve in the psyche of those who pay any reverence to them, some kind of unintended worship. Afterall, most people who worship other gods do it by having physical representations. I will not force anybody to convert to my religion. However all types of Icns will be removed from the public spaces. Religious objects will have to the proper places; places of worship.

I am shocked that as a christian, you are not frowning against Idols or statues. Is it because of the CROSS.

You should do good always, to Muslims and non muslims and all of God's creations.
In the month of Ramadan, you should increase your level of doing good. May be Allah the Almighty, will soften the hearts of those you come in contact with. Any good that is done is never lost.

(AS) said that if one was to hear the trumpet of the last day, there in your hand is a seedling, plant it. Good in form of reward of the charity after death will be not unaccounted for.

May God the Almighty Allah have mercy on us all. And He accepts our prayers and our repentance and count us among the favored and those He is well pleased with.

Ma Salaam.

@Babyosisi: There is a place reserved for another pretty and exotic Ibo woman. In the long run, we all have to make our choices. Nigeria is a fun place. I prefer it to america. Even though, I believe i know America well enough. I am a home boy. Nigerian through to the bone.

@Ismael: Maybe my Iman (Faith) is weak, thats why you are preaching to me. I hereby ask the Lord of the world, The Almighty Allah to protect me from weak faith. To increase my faith and plant my feet firmly on right guidance. I will continue to pray that Allah open your eyes Ismael. That you will worship your Creator, the One Who is truly deserving all your worship.

AS to my wife, she was a good christian. However God has blessed her to accept islam. She is a great muslima. She is beautiful and 6ft tall. Now thats a woman. She is a pure gem.

@LoverBwoy: It is only okay to have sexual intercourse with your legal spouse. It is not forbidden either after you have broken your fast, at Night. But all sexual intercorse must stop before the beginning of the fast of the following day. The fast begins at the time of Fajr. This is also the time that all eating and drinking and other base activities must stop. Salatul Subhi begins just after the time of fajr.

However if a person who has the intention to fast were to be in the state of impurity because of sex or wet dream, into the time of fajr, all he /she has to do is to take the compulsory bath. The fast is intact. The person can then make salah. The same condition apply if a person were to have wet dream during the day time while fasting. You stillhave your fast, but you have to take the compulsory bath as soon as possible. If you are in a place wher you have no access to bathing, like in the office, then you will clean your private part as in the way that you do when you excrete. Then you perform the tayamum. You can pray and read Qur'an, in as long as you are clean yourself and your clothings.

Alhamdulillah. I ask the Most merciful, the Owner of the Month of ramadan and all the other months of the year to bless us and accept all our Ibadat. That he from His Mercy, to bring Unity to our beloved Nigeria and mankind in general. I ask victory for islam and muslims. i ask that Allah purifies our hearts and do not make us unbelievers or hypocrites.

@Davidlan: This is my last response to you. After this, you can shoot your mouth off. I will not care to acknowledge you. not that I am important, but i think you are a problem. How am I double talking. This United States is Allah's land. So is every inch of the earth. There is no law that says I can not live here. I paid good money to go to school here. No grant or loan, my family money. Right now, i am paying good tax into the system. My children are born and raised here.

America is a Christian country, hardly. Ask the Americans. They separate Church from state. They do not mix.
You cannot frustrate me. My behaviour is no based on my being on this site. Olabowale does not run. I bear my Muslim name every where I go. I am just in the company of my brothers and sisters so I use the Nigerian name here. Are you in my heart. Did you read my heart and you discover that i am lying.

I care for people and that is the truth. Unlike you who is full of poiso. I doubt if you can forgive anybody who offends you. You better learn that life is too short to be so suspecious. Nigeria is my country, same I have told my children to claim. I hope the people can truly unite. I hipe man can really unite. However I will not hide my feeling about my love for the prophet of Allah. He is more beloved to me than anything that ever lived. That included my family members, my mother and me.

If you are surprised that I care for preservations of lives and properties of man the world over in general and nigerians in particular, then your heart is made of stone. I pick my fights, but never afraid. No soul willl die except God the Almighty permits it. Since your intension is to push my button, it is better I avoid you.

From now on end, I do not exist and you, the same for me. I wish you well.

@Babyosisi: He Allah is your Lord and Mine. He created and sent Jesus (AS) and Muhammad (AS). There is no God but He. Join me in worship of Allah, the Almighty. He is irresistable, the Patient, The peace, The Omnipotent, The Self sufficient, The Owner of Honor. I can praise Him all nights and all days of my life, yet He remain Honored by all of His creations.

However, I believe that the Pope just can not continue to open his mouth in every chance he has the stage. Muhammad (AS) is a beloved of His Lord, Allah the Almighty. We should all respect him. I feel bad that any property or live is lost. These are tragic and evil things, indeed.

@Ismael: I am not an anti-christ. Far from it. Anti-christ has one eye, but I have two. I would not want to be alive when anti-christ comes.

I sympathise with you and those who are suffering in the North and anywhere else. I do believe that the leadership of these Islamic states in Nigeria and the federal government of Nigeria should be protecting their citizenries; Muslims or christians and others.

I have read and studied Muhammad (AS) from his seerah and the hadith and what non muslims have said about him. I never saw the bloodletting that the people on this site talk about him.

It is my humble opinion that the Sharia of nigeria is not a true sharia. The women in madina who were not muslims were not forced to wear the veil. However they were not nude or overtly provocative in their mode of dresses. I also believe that the muslims should be examplary models of good virtue, in their day to day living. This is a good way to show your quality and people might tend to emulate you.

I wish there is anything that I can do. At the same time I can not let TayoD getaway with inaccurate information about my beloved prophet Muhammad (AS).

Sharia is not compulsory on non muslim. I will not force any non muslim if I were in power. However, I will advocate moderation in every part everyday living. For example, I may advice that people should not drink in the public and sale of alcohol may be restricted, but I can not tell anyone who is not a muslim not to think.

@TayoD: Are you saying that in the New Testament, we will not find an action or a saying that came from Jesus that could be construed as agression. If I can bring any to your attention, then will you eat your words and become Muslim. I put the same challenge to Davidlan on another trhread, yet he could not stand up to fulfill his own oath. Are you the same. Otherwise, write only what is correct, from your Bible.

More importantly, it is not permissable to whitewash the Qur'an as the christians had whitewashed their Bible. This is why you see all that was revealed and completely recited by Muhammad (AS) in the Qur'an. Unlike the 'inspired' collection of writings which are periodically updated, even to this day. I told one of the christians that the Protestants used the Catholic Bible as a manuscript to formulate their Bible. Yet, they conveniently obliterated many Books from the Catholics Bible from their own. Well done King James. Well done. I guess that's why they call it version.

If I were a christian, maybe i will write my own. Just like the Mormon under Joseph Smith or the Jehovah witness did. These are just two sects originated from USA. I guess every one needs to proof its worth.

@4get_me: But you conveniently avoid the issue of temptation that I raised, vis a vis, Jesus's temptations and your immunity from temptation. I asked, a you better, or in the general sense of it are you ever tempted or you have not been tempted before. Lets try from the time you have become very aware of your being born again. One will ask the question; what is the role of seeking forgiveness.

@4get_me: What you do with your sex life is your business. However, when you belittle my prophet, the love of my life and that of all believing men and women, coupled with just the winking of a christian man to a believing woman, then i have to say something. In all my life, i never go below my standard. So when all the nigerian males were going to Job corp institutions to get cheap girls, I refused to join them. I am interested in Marrying up. This is not because that i come from bad home. No I do not come from bad home.

However, I have good eyes for particular type of women. Further, President Jimmy carter, during his presidency stated that he lusted even in his heart. You can love something in your heart, yet you may not do it. You sound like you have no temptations. It is the holy spirit that is in you. Yet, you and the rest of christians believe and hold to it from the Bible that jesus your god was tempted, three times! If jesus was tempted that many times, how come you his followers, he is your god, remembe, how can you be immune from the same fate. Are you better than Jesus? This is food for thought.

I am happy for you in your married life. I wish you and your wife the best of this life. I ask God the Almighty Allah to guide you and put you on the path that is straight and smooth. Not just muslims that marry more than One wife. Most muslims marry just one wife. Before islam of Muhammad, men used to marry more than one wife. I am not restricted by by artifial barriers set by men. If the law of man is directly opposite to the law of God, in all situations, my choice is God's law> Afterall, no matter how you slice it, I am an African. I do not fornicate because it is in obedience to Allah's order. No one is putting a gun to my head.

Again, you should not take it personally. Afterall, we are both Human. We are not a prophet either from the human race. No more prophet after Muhammad (AS).

@4get_me: You sound as if you are military man> The military men are the most sexually perverse group in Nigeria. Unless you are not a commission officer. No body guard, etc. So don't tell me that if you have the chance, if your wife will not break your head, that you will not marry another woman.

Afterall, marrying 4 wives is better that marrying 1 and then a bundle of girlfriends, here and there.
If my stomach were to be weak, i would have vomitted from your insincerity about marriage. You never be attracted to some woman since you have been married. I have. I will not involve in illegal sexual activity, even if I was single.

See, God made it easy for him with his 4 wives that he has time to engage you in thoughtful way on issues of our spiritual awareness.

@Babyosisis: As a person I try very much to bite my tongue. The biggest attack a person can visit upon me is to abuse my family, any one of them with word.

You could hit me, but do not abuse my family. Yet, I love any of the prophet of God more than any member of my family. I love Muhammad (AS). So when I hear or read about any abuse of this nobility, I weep inside. I have to compose myself in order to continue to be civil. Maybe, if i show kindness, God may soften the heart and the speech of that person who is that vile against this beloved man (AS).

I fear that a person may reject faith through my action, so I strive for goodness. Words hurt. It hurts and deep wound is created.

@Babyosisi: The opportunity for, second, third and fourth is opened. I have good genes. I come from good stock. All of us are educated. You have Doctors, Engineers, Lawyers, others including VC. Just in case you think about the large family. My older boy graduated when he was 21. His younger brother is a junior and he is still under 20.

I pray that everything works out for you. It is in human nature to be married. However I still have an opening reserved for a pretty Igbo woman. She must be Muslima even before she is considered for it. You see, it is like Ikemba, no Igbo woman can refuse him. I am a younger version of him. Take it back to the 60s/early 70s.

@Archbishop: I think the real issue is not what the Muslims do. Even though I disagree with the reactions of the Muslims, but we as humans should not allow ordinary person to disrespect a prophet. It is the carelessness of most of us that has emboldened people in the West to the point that they made fun of Jesus concerning his sexuality. We need to protect all these people who have passed away. If Muhammad (AS) were to be alive, he would have left the former Nazi, who is now passing for a pope alone to his ignorance.

Have you noticed that Muslims do not even insult and true personality in the Bible, which I might add that includes the 12 companions of Jesus (AS). I am not saying that Saul/Paul is from this group. He came later.

Why is it that Christians think that they are free to insult the prophet of God. Why. The pope, if he was intending to instigate a religious dialogue, he was very naive in his methodology. He was even a yellow belly that he did not give the response of the Muslim Scholar who was dialoging with the Emperor. He stopped short of the response. that tells you that he was disgenious. That is very unbecoming of a religious leader.

4get_me: What did the spirit teach you about relationship with your family, cleanliness, good living including how to remain healthy and fit. What did the spirit teach you about family and charity, etc.

@Babyosisi; Did you hear about The jewish blood in George Allen.  Senator Allen of Virginia was the person who called the Indian man Makaka. So now that he is somewhat Jewish, he becomes over sensitive. You see, those who live in Glass house should not throw stone.

People are people. Yet George Allen was born in California while the person he called makaka was born in Virginia.

As to my possible convertion to Christianity, it will never happen. Infact, I am hoping that you will give Islam a chance. If your fiancee has any problem with it, then as they say in Yoruba adage; No one stops at only one orange from a batch that is very sweet. I love pretty women. Zainab is 6ft tall. You will be in good company.

@4get_me: So you have established that the twlve companions did not include Barnabas. I will not argue that with you. However, was there a barnabas that introduced Saul/Paul (Lana) to the companions of jesus, after he claimed his serendipity?

If you read the passage of the Bible where Jesus (AS) was reported to have spoken about the comforter,you will see that he objectify this comforter as a male/masculine gender. It is as if to say that this comforter will walk the surface of the earth, in body and soul. Where can you reconcile the spirit with comforter. I guess if you read the Bible, prior to the birth of jesus, you will find that some of the personages experienced the spirit/ghost. For example, John in the womb was with the spirit.

The spirit was in some of jesus's speech was exchangeable for Prophet.
So I asked you this question: Since Jesus said in the Bible that when the comforter comes, the comforter will teach you all things.
What has the spirit taught you. Who among the christians has the comforter which you now call the spirit taught in over 2000 years since Jesus left.

I will tell you what Muhammad taught since Jesus left. I will give you the most simple and the most complex situations and Muhammad (AS) had taught Muslims well. It is up to every one including the muslims and the non muslims to accept this lecture from Muhammad (AS or reject it.

@Babyosisi: She is a Muslim, praying and readying herself for the fast. By the way, she has improved me, some.

I hope when you begin to make salah, you will remember the stubborn me. All the conversations and all.

Good fortune.

@Havila, 4get_me; Are you saying that barnabas was not a companion of Jesus. I am just asking. If he is you must know that according to the Bible, he Barnabas will be one of the Judges of the children. None of you africans is from the children of Israel.

Ahmad means comforter. Ask an Arab. Muhammad is also known as Mustafa (AS).

@4get_me: Which is more dignifying when a person of importance refer to him/her person as I or We?
If you can answer this without any ambiguity, you will have the right answer.

God the Almighty used He for Himself. Is this because He is a male. No. The masculine gender is stronger than the feminine gender. Yet God is not a male or female. But is describing Himself to mankind whose knowledge is in the gender maleversus female. So the stronger gender is chosen. Now that we agree, we can then move forward.

No one has seen God face to face. So, Angel Gabrael was a medium between that Allah the Almighty chosed between Himself and His man prophets, Noah, Jesus and Muhammad, etc.
Muhammad also went to heaven and came back. He had an audience without Gabrael with his Lord. Yet he did not see Allah. He said there is a veil of light between him and Alr Rahman. The depth of that veil of light is with Allah alone.

As to the Book, all religious books, the new and old testaments are supposed to contain revelations. Except that the Muslims state that these two books of revelations are corrupted. You should ask your knowledgeable people in religion. they will tell you.

If you read anything with some kind of facts about the compilation of the Qur'an you will be amazed of your findings;
The revelation lasted for about 23 years.
The first 13 years was simply to destroy multiplicity of god. Unity of God as ONE GOD the Almighty was established.
The last 10 years was partially used to give instructions and commandments.

As every revelation comes to Muhammad (AS), its heart was able to take it in. It was inscribed on his heart by Allah.
The scribes in his community by his instruction wrote then down. There were many copies of each revelation.
The society memorized it as well.

The community used it for all types of occasions, including when they meet socially and dispersed from each other/one another.
When Salah was prescribed to the muslims, they used it.
All of the above remain the system of preservation in Islam up to this present time.

Every Ramadan, Muhammad and Gabrael (AS) recite what ever qur'an was , one time each to each other.
The last year that Muhammad lived, in that Ramadan, Muhammad (AS) and Gabrael (AS) recited the whole Qur'an to each other two times each. Muhammad (AS) remarked that this Ramadan's recitation was different

Soon , before the next ramadan, after the hajj of that year Muhammad (AS) died. However, all revelations which make up the Qur'an were revealed. Al lwas written down and memorized and used in religious matters.

The compilation of the Qur'an into a book was first enacted during the caliphate of Abu bakr. The reason was because pagan arab tribes were killing alot of those who memorized the complete Qur'an. In one incident, 100 of such persons were killed.

The Muslims compiled this Quran based on this reason and the spreading of Islam outside the Arab penisula.
While Muhammad was alive, Qur'an recitation styles were 7 principally.

In each of the styles, you have minor styles, based on pronounciations, etc.
The master manuscript, if you can call it that, was left in the care of Hafsat (RA), the daughter of the second caliphar, Umar ibn Khattab, al shariff.

It was in the third caliphar's reign, that the Qur'an, using the Only complete copy of the Qur'an in the trusteeship of Hafsat (RA), as the masterpiece. Caliphar Uthman ibn Affan (RA)produced 4 copies based on the seat of knowledge of islam; The Makkan and Madinan copy is one, The Kufa text, the Baghdad text and the syrian texts. these were the four texts. In west africa, what is known as wahsh style of recitation is very common. However every letter of the each style is also found in its proper place in the other styles of Qur'an. So you see, oral tradition is still very prominent and so is the writing down of it as tools of learning.

Uthman burnt the various degrees of incomplete copies of Qur'an because they become irrelivant, since there are now various complete copies available.
You must never forget that these incomplete copies were available during the lifetime of Muhammad (AS). Further, the complete Qur'an were compiled using these incomplete Qur'an copies and the recitaions by people, each supporting one another in confirmation of the authentic Qur'anic verses recited.

Inshort, God Almighty gives a rich legacy to the Muslims by all of these many ways to preserve the purity of the Qur'an.

In my case, I did not go to madrasa in Nigeria. My father (ra) did not put me in it. I regret it.
However, America opened my eyes and my heart to Islam. I now read the Arabic Qur'an and I understand it when it is recited. It is a moving book. May God allow you to experience the Sweet nectar of it. there is no comparison. I read the Bible. It is romantic.

As to the command of Zachariah to the children of Israel, when the news of John was given to him, he can only instruct with his hand. That instruction of praising Allah is practiced by Muslims after the Morning prayer and the late afternoon or evening prayer. This prayer is Alhamdulillah, Surulillah. All of these prophets are aour prophets (AS).

@Babyosisi: Thanks.
No. My conscience is clear. I do not even have any cut on the face. I am a Jaiyejaiye man. I am moderate in my dealing. Straight as arrow.

The Jaiyejaiye part is all in my head. I do not have to repeat all that i did decades ago in Nigeria and America. Its all out of my system.

@4get-me: If you were able to give Wumine an answer that was so pleasing from the Qur'an, why have you failed to apply that to yourself?

@Wumine: My dearest sister, I do know alot of Muslims in America, Nigerian and even white and black american and yes, from the jewish Bloodline. None of us, me included is willing to waste anyone's life. Most American muslims have said how Islam changed them. It calms you down. It makes you respect lives. You appreciate everything.

I was a hard young man. Thanks to God, the Almighty Allah, I have a sincere respect for everyone. On this website, I have bit my tongue alot of times. I wonder if Islam have not tamed me, what would I have done. The Arabs of palestine know their condition very well. More than you or me. I am not in palestine, nor am I a Palestinian. I know my own experience, you know your and others have theirs. You have to live in another person's shows before you can sincerely speak about it.

Those who kill themselves will be raised up in the day of judgement repeatedly killing themselves. Islam warned against it.

Do you have people claiming to be Muslims and pracicing it very badly. Yes. The majority of people are. I am one of them.

At least we know it.
Is Islam bad. No. Islam is perfect. If you read the Bible and the Qur'an, compare the numbers of wars of the blood letting. Then let me know your views. IN the Bible, you will read about many places where the enemies were killed without a single soul spared. The animals were killed as well. The trees were also cut off. It is as if the intention was to obliterate the group. The Bible actually recorded same of these actions carried out.

@4get-me: About Angels being part of the Creator )S), you dod not hear that from me. Neither will you read it from the Qur'an. You must be confused. Probably, you need to open your mind.

First, it is clear and accepted, even by the enemies of Islam that Muhammad said that Allahsent revelation to him. Allah sent the revelation throught Angel Gabrael. Angel Gabrael repeated what he heard from his Lord, word for word to Muhammad. Muhammad memorized and dictated the same thing, word for word to his community and the scribes wrote them down, exactly.

The community used this exact revelation and passed it down, generation after generation. the chain has not been broken, even up to this present day.

This continum is what the christian hierrachy and with the edging on of the Jews are complaining about Islam on. They want reformation of the Qur'an. What they mean is this; change a little here and there.

No. Islam is not for sale. However some muslims are for sale. So the category of hypocracy emerged and you will find a chapter in the Qur'an about this.

The plural pronoun or majestic pronoun is commonly used. I use it to dignify myself with my wife and my family members. This is a pronoun to impress the important of the speaker. The Yoruba kings often use it. Again, read the Qur'an for the first time. You must clear your mind of all encumbrances. Then God will guide you aright.