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@Babyosisi; Thank God. I do not wear any charm or armlet. It is forbidden in islam. No true muslim will wear any. Islam depends on Allah (GOD) alone. It is in there in the glorious pages of Qur'an.

@Havila: Muslims, the world over do not face the east. Muslims in West africa face east, the exact direction of Makka. The Muslims in America face a direction that Makka is located in. The Europeans will face a diffirent direction, but geographically, every muslim is facing the Ka'aba. I am sure from your statement, you have not seen the circumbulations of the Ka'aba before. When you see it, every one faces that Cubical. So people pray facing it from every direction.

About the star and the crescent and the fact that all Islamic events are organised on the Lunar calendar, this is the command of God. Unfortunately, the christians use the seasonal changes to observe the events of their religion. For example, they say that jesus was born on the 25th of december. This is absolutely false.

The time of the birth of jesus was more of Summer month, because it is the time that the Palm Date fruits. The fruit of the palm date was some of the fruits that Mariam the mother of Jesus (AS), eat during the labor/delivery of jesus. If this very essential fact in christianity is so distorted that it becames like a game, the question we should sincerely ask ourselves, is this; How far and deep are the distortions.

In 1999 to 2000, you have a baby jesus in Daiper! This was called Millenium Jesus. It is as if there are some people manufacturing fallacies and try them for size within the christian populace. If it is accepted, then it becomes the norm.

Mr. Havila, you see, the gregorian calendar is not correct and my proof is that you have a leap year every 4 years to correct the miscalculation, what occurred the previous 3 years. It is the moon circle that determines, in reality the age of a person, etc.

@Babyosisi; It seems as if we have made a full circle. You not knowing Qur'an when you see it. Me, as per your above statement, not knowing the Bible. Even though, as of my last entry ask you, really agitate your thinking, the humanness in you to ponder on the Biblical events which i humbly alluded to, then to reflect on the Qur'an.

For me, I am not naive about the Bible. I read it in High school. I was forced to read it. I lived with a pastor in University. I nmarried a christian, most importantly I was raise by a former christians.

My decision is very simple; There is no God save He. The Irrestistable, the One every soul yearn for His mercy. Jesus was among these souls in his worldly time.

I was talking a white associate of mine in Arkansas, yesterday. To my surprise, he said that his Sabbath was Friday/ before Midnight Saturday. I asked if he is a Seventh day adventist. He replied negative. However he was letting me to understand that Jesus did not change the Sabbath day from the day that the Jews pracise it.

I listened. I do know thaty he and me will in the future have some religious dialogue.

I cannot change anyone. Infact that is not my place. Mine is to talk about it with some decorum. God has made Paradise and Hellfire. There is a purpose for each. Humans and Jinns will be put in these places. Our effort is to find the proper way to worship God so that when we finally meet Him, He will from His mercy forgive us.

@Babyosisi; Thank you for your 'free' lesson. Unfortunately, if you are given a Free Advise that will benefit you, from your attitude, you will reject it.

Fortunately, I answered your man's question about Qur'an 10;94. If either one of you had read the human explanation of it, there would never have been any reason for your post thereof. Infact, you would have not been in any doubt of pure revelation.

Amongst the people who followedMuhammad (AS) were persons who were before Jews and Christians. Realising the true revelation of the Oneness of God, clearly knowing from their books that this was the prophet promised to come after Jesus (AS).

Abdullah ibn salaam, a jew and Waraqa of the the Nesterian Monk of Bahira, a christian were examples. I wonder when some of you called Jesus (AS) God, one will ask for the explanation of his crying on the cross (Not that I accept that he was crucified); My God, My God, why have thou foprsaken me!.

I am a very weak soul. Yet, if I were told that something will happen to me, I would not be surprised when it does happen. Further, if I had accepted the conditions of this event, there is no reason for me to act as to imply that I am surprised or refusing to bear the consequences.

Today, there is no true believer in the predestiny of man, or that death will come, who will be surprised when it does.

Refusal to accept fate as ordained by God, the Almighty is a proof that the person who refused this fate is not a believer.

How is it that the christian hold this belief that Jesus was from those who refuse fate.

@Backslider; Yet you crammed the math formulae. You used it to advance from on elevel of academics to another. Yet, it served as a foundation to you. You can still refer to it to benefit you.

Qur'an is more than that. It is not easily crammed. It is etched on your heart. It brings wisdom.

No one is permissable to force anyone to accept Islam. Whoever does it, forcing people to accept Islam has gone against the injuction of God. Muhammad(AS) did not fight those who did not startup a fight with him. Islam was not spread by Sword. If it was there would never have been non muslims in Madina during the lifetime of Muhammad. Infact, there wuold not havwe remain any non Muslims in Arabia. When India was ruled by Muslims, they did not force the Hindu and Sikh into Islam. They ruled India for about 8 centuaries. Further, when Muslims ruled Europe from Spain, they did not force anyone to Islam.

My bloodline was not forced into islam. So what are you talking about. Read your History, know your history.

@Tienshei: I live on the planet earth that you probably live. Unless you do not live on this planet. Your question is not clearly defined.

@Havila: Jesus was not a christian. That is a fact. it is the people who followed him (AS) that were called christians, first by some disbelievers. So therefore, christianity was coined up by disbelieving folks. I know enough about christianity. I took Bible knowledge as a subject in high school, because i went to Christian High school. My roommate in the university was a reverend and leads in NYC.

Your problem is that i spoke about Christianity. It is because I have some real knowledge about it. So do converts to Islam. This morning, a white man just became Muslim. I saw him with my own eyes. There are still many more on the way. I am not against christianity, its just that i do not want to be one.

If this is too harsh for you to swallow, i cannot help you. Just because I said jesus was not a christian does not mean I am immersing myself in the research of that religion. There are somethings that are common knowledge, I cannot repress it just to satisfy you. I have not lied in whatever I have said. However you do not have to agree with me. To each its own. My concern, presently is that peace and and calmness prevail in Nigeria, seeing that a whole lot of Nigerians are expressing concerns about their people, their country.

@carlos; Please tell me if God will punish anybody in the day of Judgement. You will quickly find out that God is just, but there will be people who will be sent to Hellfire. the reason will be because of wrong belief and worship, primarily and therefore bad/evil deeds.

@Havila: People are Jews in one or two ways; By religion or by ethnicity. By religion, it means they worship in a jewish tradition. No prophet of God worshipped this way. So jesus was not a Jew by religion.
By ethnicity, you will notice that the children of Israel are of 12 tribes. One of them is the tribe of judah. Moses and his brother Aaron are not from the tribe of judah, but are from the tribe of the high priest.

In the diaspora of the children of Israel, it has been reported that the bloodline that Jesus (AS) came from by his mother's lineage since he has no father, went to Syria. Hence the father of Mariam had an arab name. His name i will tell you in my future writing. As a matter of fact, some celebrity in America, in this year gave her son the same name. I view of these two reason above, you will find that Jesus (AS) was not a Jew.

If you ever went to the ceremonial gathering of the Children of Israel, you will find that they will have this high priest tribe amongst them before they will believe that they are now tribally complete.
From this tribe, you have most of the rabbanic class. There names are Cohn, Cohen, etc. I have been to their saders and i have rabbis and other reformed and others among them. From the children of Israel. you have from the time of Muhammad (AS) became muslims. I also have personal friend who are now Muslims, but you will consider them to be jewish, but really not from the tribe of Judah, but anyway Children of Israel.

You must know that if you call an Ijebu man an Egba, even though both of them are Yorubas, you will definately be wrong. Since Jesus was not a christian, and not a Jew by religion and even by ethnicity, but his mother was from the bloodline of Israel any way. You do no consider the Reubenites, Benjaminite, etc from the children of Israel Jews, which is really the name of the Children of Israel from the fatherhood of Judah.

In the future maybe you will learn something about true religion.

@babyosisi; I just have to tell you that, as usual you are wrong. The charade you are playing amount to apostasy. You are claiming that you know my heart. my dear babyosisi, you are weak and you cannot know my heart and most definately not God.

@TayoD; Your lack of knowledge of Islamic prose, which is the literature style of Qur'an is understood. When you read the verse that you quoted with the background knowledge that it has declared that the Bible, both old and new were already corrupted, the following will come to mind.

1) Muhammad (AS) being a man who is modest and raelly a mortal was concern about what the christians and the jews will say now that this unlettered person is bringing this bold ideas to bear. The jews and christians were before then, the only people who have received revelations and none had come to the Arabs. It was then a bold confrontatation to the Jews and the christians who knew the truth and have clear knowledge that what Muhammad was receiving is absolute truth. Yet, they still have the remnant of truth with them in oral tradition, but disregarding it for selfish reasons, hence their actions are pure injustice to God and His previous bygone prophets. Muhammad was therefore a reminder and a caller to truth for all mankind. Mankind included Jews and christians.

In view of this above, there were among Muhammad's (AS) followers, Jews in Abdalsalaam who died in one of the wars and Salman Alfarsi, who travelled all the way from Turkey, Shuaib Al Rum was also another christian.

So you see, TayoD when the Bible is referred to it simply means that it is the Bible before adulteration and this was such that it was before Muhammad. I always ask you christians on Nairaland; which of todays Bible is the true Bible. Is it that of the catholics, which is the mother of the protestants' Bible. Is it the Jehovah witnesses' or is it that of the others like all the orthodoxes and or that of Mormons. I am being funny here, because each sect will claim to represent true christianity.

Even though as smart as babyosisi is, its very unfortunate that she did not know that the protestant Bible is curled away from the Catholic Bible. This is with very significant chapters which are omitted in the Protestants Bible. Here one will be forced to ask, if the whole Bible is word of God, how is it that these chapters/books are omitted.

Further, I guess Babyosisi does not know why protestant sheared itself from catholic faith of christianity. She does not know when the protestant Bible was written, who commissioned it and his state of mind. You want be taken to the woodshed. I am here to teach you your religion. maybe this will make your heart tender.

@Dearzl: I hear you. Unfortunately, you did not hear me. Rather you have shown that you understand the HEART of God. So it will be very easy for you to understand my mother's.

My dear sister, you are not correct. It is also your business to convert to any religion that you wish, from Islam. God knows your true nature. I am not able to do that. I guess your fate and my as well as all mankind is in the HAND of God. The Muslims who go good or evil, the christians or others who do good or evil will find their rewards with God. The first thing that a person should do is to find the true worship of God Almighty. The doing of good and the forbidding of evil will be understood in a gradual sense. It is a process.

I abhor the killing of any perso. I also disagree with anybody burning or destroying any house of worship. i had made salah in churches before. i have entered some as well for other reasons, as in celebrations of weddings and birth.

Islam does not agree with any person doing evil Afterall, there is a verse of the Qur'an that encourages one to enjoin goodness and forbid evil deeds.

@Havila; Are not Muslims in the south, among the Yorubas?. Yes there are. We all feel very closely to Muhammad (AS) as any Muslims. There are Muslims amongst the Ibos this days. Islam is definately coming to the east. Islam is neither a religion of ethnicity nor bounded by boundary.

There are hausas in Ghana and you do not have the same chaotic reaction as you do in Nigeria. It is my humble opinion that all of this is based on lack of knowledge. Just because a person is identified by a label, he/she may really not know what it means to be a bearer of that label. I have to come to America to even understand what Islam is. Yet I have always been Muslim.

As for me and all the Muslims of nigerian origin that i have spoken with in America, some of them are Hausas and in between, no one yet supports any evil to be visited on any body in Nigeria or any where around the world. My interest is preservation of life. I do not destroy, I build. This is not because i am a Yoruba, it is because I am trying to practice Islam of Muhammad (AS).

You do not upset a person, just because you know the right button to push. You have to restrict yourself until you will have to voice your opinion. My opinion is to talk about what Muhammad brought. Afterall, he and Jesus (AS) who presided him are brothers in faith. Jesus was never a Jew or a christian in faith. He was a man who worshipped god and did not associate anything with GOD>

@dearzi; As you said, you do not know anything about Islam. But I know a little about christianity; I was born by a former Christian. She became a Muslim now in her old age. I was married to a christian woman. I am now in marital relationship with former christian. An Ibo lawyer. She is young to and beautifu. The issue is that you have stated that the recitation of Arabic word,five times a day is not enough. My question to you is this; Is God craterium the same as man. Do you have an agreement with God whereby He told you that islam is not an acceptable religion.

To be a Muslim is to declare the article of faith that One God is to be worshipped and nothing else to be associated with Him. Muhammad is His true and last messenger. This is known as Iman and partof Iman is even as little as picking up stone from the path of man and avoid hurting any of God's creations.

I have listened to alot of blggers on this site who had said very bad words of falacies about the beloved of 25% of worlds population. I do not advocate violence, therefore, I talk back and try to educate these individuals. If you do not tell people that they are wrong, where does it stop. I disagree with alot of Muslims' behaviours. However, I do not dismiss the ancient evil deeds of the christians as you just did. Afterall, your pope quoted the ancient Emperor.

That emperor, his empire is now Islamic. However the response of the muslim scholar who was involved in the colloqiumwas not spoken by the pope. So you see that the pope was trying to prove a point. i do not expect better from him. Afterall, the Jews of America are still indicating him to be a nazi youth group member. You my dera sister, simply forgot the atrocities of ancient christians in the several crusades and Spanish inquisitions and even what we have presently from christian dominated countries.

In the recent history of the world, the two world wars were the handiwork of most christians.  The unrest in the middle east is from the injustices of the christian nations.
However, since these nations are the mighty and powerful, then you only expect the view point to be slanted as such.

The Muslims do not make things any better. However, if you wanna know what Muhammad (AS) brought, you only have to look at the system that he developed. Worship of One God. The indivisibility of God. The first constitution was written in Madina. The highway sytem was developed in Iraq, while Europe was still in its slumbe. If Muhammad (AS) were to be alive now, the Osu caste system that still remains among the Igbo people wil definately vanish. Reason is that Islam preaches one brotherhood. Islam brought Arabs who were shunned for a long time by every passing civilization to the forfront of world stage in all departments of study.

Muhammad forgave his enemies when he became powerful enough to annihilate them. They were expecting him to annihilate them because of their evil deeds, yet he forgave them. He brought a system where women become property owners, instead of being properties. The Spanish enlightenment that the followers of Muhammad brought benefitted Europe and the rest of the world, till this day. Muhammad (AS) followers were the group Coptic Christians of Egypt called to defend them against the oppressions of the Vatican Rome. This was how Islam really entered Egypt. The concept of Zero, Arithmetics, Geometry, arabic numerals and many aspects of medicine and sciences and others including Banking and finance were brought to mankind. Even the relationship of Trustee and trustor and checks are all Islamic.

Just because you do not know does not mean it does not exist.

@Babyosisi; Its great that you can call me an idiot. If I were from your family, then somebody who is younger than you will get up and smack you in the face. I am sure the group you belong to have more sense than that.

Yes they offer animals in slaughter during hajj. You do not know anything about islam. The animal being offered is in the same tradition of the sacrifice that Ibrahiim (AS) engaged in with his son Ismail (AS), who was ransomed by Allah the Almighty. It shows your lack of your own self awareness. I wonder when you deviate from the religion of father Ibrahiim (AS), what else do I expect from you. All your actions are tantanimous to hatred of hausas, when you actually said you are not. Of course, i have not lost family members in any Nigerian riot. I also do not need to live in the north, regardless of my religion. The land of Allah is wide and spacious.

The things that i and my associates are engaged in in Igboland, you an Igbo woman will never be able to do it, even within Igbo society. This is not to say that i am bragging. I do not need to brag, especially to a person whose brain is neither existing or yet developed. You lack common sense. Yes, common sense has nothing to do with academics. afterall, it is you who as a Doctor does not know the stages of feutal developments afet fertalization of the egg.

Again, I pity the man who will find himself in your clutch. It will be as if he has began his day of judgement with this kind of evilness in you. Shame on you. The evil in your heart will never profit you. Of course, there is time for you to repent. God is alway ready to receive the repentance of His creation. maybe, from all indication, you may not be arrogant afterall. God is able to do all things.

Here is an open letter to His Excellency Olusegun Obasanjo, President of Nigeria.

Dear Mr. President,

The nigerian citizens outside Nigeria, are very worried about their family members in the North. These nNgerians are not Muslims and are mostly from the Eastern part of Nigeria. I am not an Hausa nor an Igbo and yes, I am a Muslim. I do not live in Nigeria and my family are not in danger of being killed in any ethnic or religious mayhem.

However, I hear and read how my brothers and sisters from Igboland are so nervous, expecting the worse from their Nigerian counterpart from the North. They are justified to feel this way, since past experiences are all too vivid.

Mr. President, as a man whose responsibility is to protect the citizens of Nigeria, from enemies from outside its border, and injustices and unfair treatment from one Nigerian on another, I hereby request from you, that you use the power of your office and more importantly, for the sake of God, the Almighty to protect the lives and properties of all Nigerians.

This is a very critical moment in the lives of our beloved Nigerians, specifically the Easterners in the North. They have the rights to live where ever they feel in any part of nigeria. Nigeria cannot continue to catch cold, every time Europe or America sneeze.

If the Pope or even a Nigerian journalist says or writes something that is unpleasant about Prophet Muhammad (AS), that is not enough or any reason to start any unrest and fight which unfortunately lives are lost.

The muslims must know that Muhammad (AS), if were to be alive in this instance, he would not order his followers to riot or take up arms. infact, he might just ignore such an evil attack against him, altogether.

We must follow the example of Muhammad (AS), in the way he forgave in wholesale amnesty of the people of Makka, upon his traumphant return to his beloved birth place. We must also take from his follower, Ali Abitalib, who in battle let his enemy lived, even when he had a chance to kill him.

The muslims must look into the pages of Al Qur'an and see that Allah, the Almighty says that if you take a soul, it is if you have killed the whole of mankind. If you preserve a soul, it as if you have preserved the whole of mankind.

All human beings are but from one parent, a source. We all carry the lineage of Adam (AS). All Nigerians are but from the same nation. Yes, our religions may be different and so are our tongues, but we are interdependent on each other, a nation of people, a country known as Nigeria.

A Muslim is defined in hadith of prophet Muhammad (AS) as a person whose neighbor is safe in his hand and tongue. A Muslim is a person who tries not to transgress and trample on the right of others.

Life is very precious and no one has the right to take any life unjustly.

A society prospers when its citizenry cooperate with one another. It does not progress when its citizenry does divide against one another.

I do hope that cool heads will prevail and all will be well with every citizens of Nigeria. We must enjoin the good and forbit the evil We should engage in dialogue and not in mayhem. You catch more fles with honey than vinegar. There is no good in creating for yourselves, however, you have a supporter in friendship acquired through conduct.

I thank you and ask God the Almighty to guide you to righteousness and right governance.


Very truly,

H. O. Oye.

@Tom; thanks for starting this thread. Now about the pope, he has no fault. The pope has a golde foot in his mouth. If the pope were to be honest, he would have ststed the response of the Persian who argued with the Emperor.

God is wonderful. He destroyed the empire of the evil Emperor. Today, it is an islamic state of turkey.

Now, what did Muhammad (AS) brought. First Muhammad was an iconoclast. The destoyed all icons in the sense that before his movement, the people were of the believe of Multiple gods. The Arabs were worshipping one god per day.  The christians are in their triun concept. However brought the Universal concept of the Oneness of God. This concept, not only that it is true, but it appeal to the sense of reasoning in all Human beings.

In so doing, what Muhammad (AS) stated that God Almighty revealed to him was collected into a separate Book known as Qur'an. This is separated and different from what Muhammad (AS) said or did or permitted.

Muhammad encouraged education so much that he declared that one is to seek knowledge even if one were to travel to China. this was from a man in the desert of Arabia. As a result of this, Muslims under the Instruction of muhammad gain notoriarity and educated the whole world and indeed Europe for a long time.

As per the unity of god, it became acceptable that god is one and universal. Further there was a system developed in worship to include regiments of prayers and other responsibilities. part of this responsibilities include voluntary and compulsary charities.

The annual hajj and seasonal Umrah is pre United nations' citizens of the world's gatherings. In this meeting in Makka and madina, the Muslims close ranks, whereby there were no barriers as regarding to wealth, family positions, educations, age and other artificial classifications, inclusing sex.

Women are given same roles as regards to their responsibilities to God. Women were no more looked upon as  properties, instead they became property owners. some of them become wealthier than their husbands whereof they were given charity to these men.

Under muhammad and his followers Europe under the civilizations of the moors of north african blacks, from their posts in Andallusia and other locations in Spain, europe was cultured, civilized and educated for over 7 centuaries.

All branches of science, like both branches of Biology, Chemistry, Physics, Geology, Geophysics, Medicine, and others. The concept of Zero in math and other mathematical  concepts, including the numbers are also from Islam.

No one should forget the University of Timbuktu in mali. This University educated Europe even as far as Rome, the seat of papacy. Timbuktu excelled in all fields of education. Today, the treasure remaining in this repository is around a million, waiting for africa and proper fundings to put it in its proper place within the worlds of academics.

University of Al azhar in Cairo Egypt was formed based on Islamic academics. This university gave birth in its curriculums, matriculations and convocations, rituals even as to the gowns and caps/tassels, it is this University that all others around the world, to include Harvard, MIT, Cambrige, Oxford and other models there essence upon.

If Muhammad (AS) were to be available, all the Osu caste system in Igbo land of my beloved Nigeria will have been eradicated by the practising of Brotherly love and equality among all human being. Unfortunately, in all the centuaries that Christianity, espectially catholic brand of it has embedded itself in this group of nigerians, it has not been able to eliminate this classification known as caste system.

In time, when islam begins to make real inroad in that tribe, the people living then will see an elimination of this evil practise.

What did Muhammad bring; love, mercy and a way to truly ask for the forgiveness of god in true worship.

i will wait for others to put in their opinion before I respond further about the man known as Muhammad (AS).

Muhammad brought brother love to the world. Every year people gather in hajj and few times in a year in Umrah and at least five times a day, the poor and the wealthy, young and old are shoulder to shoulder, praying and supplicating to the One true god.

If Muhammad have been available even now, God willing, in the future when Islam enter the hearts of the people of the Eastern part of my beloved Nigeria, the caste system within that culture (The Osu caste system) will once and for all disappear.

I guess, the many centuaries that christianity have remained with them, it has not really eradicate this evil of caste system, where it is impossible for the higher class person to marry below him or her.

Unfortunately, some muslims will be bent out of shape by this weak statement, who the cloud of nazism hoovers on his head. If the pope was not an evil person, he should have provided the response of the persian Islamic scholar who was engaged in dialogue with the ancient emperor. No wonder the Empire of the emperor crumbled and there is no remnant of it any longer.

for me, the list of what muhammad brought is very extensive. In short, he brought a movement which its main objective is the factual Unity of God. God, becomes indivisible after the false statement of multiplicity of gods.

I guess that those who arouse the emotion of people to destroy each other in Nigeria, are really the evil doers. Some advocating the Christians to arm themselves to the teeth and blow their country folks up, even from a far distance. Describing these peop[le as arab flowing gown wearers. The flowing gown covers the body and this is far better than the stark unclothedness that is disguised in skimpy dresses and body hugging tight attires.

Wonders will never seize to happen. You wanna know what Muhammad (AS) brought, read about the Moors of Spain. How they cultured and civilized the whole of europe. Math, Chemistry and other fields of academics, including Medicine will never have flourished if islam did not infused the much need blood of its matriculated people.

The check in banking is muslim's invention. it shows how much the people trusted one another. Muhammad ordered people to seek knowledge, even if it is China. That was a profound statement. considering that this was made in the desert of arabia!

What did Muhammad bring; cleanliness. soffistications. Before Islam and the influence of muslims in Europe, the Europeans were people who were uncouth, were in their dormant stage. Muhammad's followers taught these people to have proper hygeine, eating three course meals, using handkerchief was introduced. Highway system was introduced in bagdad and the Europeans copied it.

The pope and his emperor and those who believed along with them are naive. imagine then, the catholic shafting my Nigerian Cardinal. Who is more qualified that this hard blooded man from Germany.

Muhammad was spoken very highly of by those people who know quality when they see it. Muhammad was a man among men, aleader among leaders of the world. muhammad, a father, a husband, a friend, a cousin, a nephew, a grandson, a son, a brother to his brother in faith and in mankind.

a man who was abused by a Jewess and went looking for her when she did not do what she used to do. When Muhammad found out she was sick, he went to see her and by this act of Mercy, the woman became muslim. muhammad who saw the procession of the funeral of a jew passing by, he rose , standing up and remained so, until the procession disappeared. when his companions asked him why he did this even for the jew, he responded that shouldn't he feel for the soul that departed. Afterall, he was apotential Muslim, while he was alive, except that Islam never entered him before his death.

I guess the Pope never visited Brooklyn Museum on easter Parkway, in Brooklyn, NY. He would have seen on the facade of the building where Muhammad was written as Number one among the worlds 100. Yes jesus and moses (AS) were among the men listed, whereby Muhammad (AS) is number One. Muhammad, a leader, a stateman, a man who encompassed all the facets of the essence of human life, the spiritual as well as the day to day needs.

Muhammad(AS) said that the word of God came to him. From that point on, a movement was born which gave same rights to men and women, in the responsibility of worship and how to run their individual lifes. Women can own properties and were no more part of men's holdings. Before then it was unheard of among world religions. The west have just warm up to equalities among the sexes, yet there are inequalities based on skin color.

Most of the people have confused religion with behaviour of men, which is based mostly on culture. if the muslims are practising Islam the way it should be practiced, then it would have very apparant that the Pope and his cohorts are very wrong, here would not have been any reason for anyone to defend islam.

I will not even touch on the concept of allowing somebody to hit you on the other cheek, because i have not seen anyone who will allow it to happen. No one is that foolish. Afterall, it is now an ErA of preemptive strike. These are all christian societies, at least thats what the christians will claim.

@Donmayor; It is not too late for you to leave for Kano. If its your wish to be a christian martyr. This will allow you the quick connection to jesus as you want it. then, when you see the reality with your own body and soul and experience the punishment of the grave, then it will be too late for you.

In response to the Pope, a german with nazism hanging on his head. Only if you people listen to the satoric lampoon about him on the progressive radio and the late Night talk shows, none of you will be eager to take him seriously. It is unfortunate taht the muslim will not patiently educate him about the GOOD that Muhammad (AS) brought to the world after Jesus (AS). Below are just a few of them;
1) The geartest of all is that Muhammad (AS), was an iconoclast. He destroy the notion of multiplicity of God. There is only One God. Ever powerful, Most merciful and Most forgiven.
2) He brought to forfront of the world stage a people that the world had shunted. The Arab became very important to civilization of the world.
3) The first First word revealed to Muhammad (AS) was Iqra; meaning Read for all persons, but for him (AS) it was recite. Before Muhammad (AS) serious education was not known to the Arabs. Before long, thereafter, they become the prominent in several fields of Academics. There were scientist and inventors in large number among them. This still continues up to today.
I guess who ever go to school with any person who study Qur'an will definately know it. even among the Muslims in Nigeria.

4) Under al-islam Andallusia and other places in Spain, infact spain in general became the center for Education and this brought the whole of Europe to its enlightenment which gave birth to america. Before the Muslims, the moor of Africa's culturing Europe, Europe was in its dark age.

5) Islam brought cleanliness to Europe. before islam, the Europeans used not to take showers. They will use tons of powder to cover their stench. Bathing and toiletery are inventions of islam
6) University of Al Ahzar in cairo, is the oldest university on earth. This is an Islamic invention and all essence of Higher learnings, the world over is modelled after it; The curicullum systems, the matriculation and graduation ceremonies, including the attires are modelled after this great Islamic Institution.

7) Under Ibn Khattab (RA), the second Khallifah, The Muslims helped the Coptic christians of Egypt against their oppressors, the catholic, whose leadership is the pope. The same papacy that denied cardinal Arienze of Nigeria the Papal position, when everyone expected him to be the Pope. Racist!
Under Khattab (RA), Muslims opened Jerusalem, yet refused to pray in the Church of the Holy Celpucar. Even though the Leader of the Church gave him the chance to pray in it. His refusal was to protect Churches in the later generations.

9) Muhammad fostered brotherhood among people. It was Muhammad that formulated the first constitution which cemented a strong society in madina consisted of Muslims, Christians, Jews and others.

Printing press, papermill industry, gunpowder and others were discovered under the civilization of islam. Without islam, Europe might probably have remained in its slumber. God knows best.

inshort, A person with the wind of nazi, like the pope should not be throwing stones. If you want to know about islam, read Qur'an. If you want to qualify muslim, judge him by the yardstick of the injuctions in Qur'an and Hadith. There is no one in islam of today that will say that he is a perfect muslim. Men and women, we are all struggling to improve our quality.

@TayoD: Go on with your bad self. I have nothing else to say to you. You have proven my point; You and your kind do not read and therefore, do not understand your own religion and definately the religion of Islam.

Go on with your way, and me mine. I do not concern myself with you. I do not know you from Adam. I have my family to concern with. I am trying to safe myself and my family from hellfire. You concern yourself with the deeds of your own soul. Quote the Bible till Sunday, I have no interest in it.

@TayoD: You wanna bow down to jesus, as an idol/object of your worship, go ahead. I will not loose any sleep over it. Unfortunately, you and your christian brothers and sisters lost all my respect/you all fell out of favor in my eyes, when you continuosly wrote your ills about my prophet (AS) and your Lord and mine.

You did not remember that the Yorubas call God, Olorun. The Ibos call Him Chineke. The Ashantis call Him something different from what the Ibos and yorubas call Him. This is the same with the Arabs. Among the Arabs you have Christians. Before you begin to insult your God and mine you should have found of the name of God in Arabic. Then you could have made some sense. But no, your hatred of Islam will not allow you to think in practicality. In all the muslims writing, no one has insulted Jesus (AS). It is not permissable for a person to be Muslim and do not belief in the birth and miracles of jesus.

Maybe you need to know that in the Qur'an, there are miracles of Jesus that you do not have in the Bible. Then in this, I ask you how can you claimed that Muhammad (AS) plagirised the Bible. When this man (AS), could not read nor write. And the Qur'an is in highest grade of Arabic language. The stories though similar, but is different from each other in details and in subject matter. Qur'an could be classified as Prose. It is as if the Bible is a yoruba spoken in Brazil and Qur'an the yoruba spoken in Yoruba land of nigeria. Are the Equal. Is it possible that the Brazilians can claim originality of the language known as Yoruba.

The christians daviated from the subject matter of pointing out or disproving the presence of Prophet Muhammad (AS) in the Bible. If you people have stayed the course, I would not have any problem with you. But what you have done was to launch wholesale attack on a beloved of God, the Angels and believers. Some of you even went so far in your confusion to say that Jesus was an Angel/Archangel. You do not know even the final position/true nature of this man (AS).

God Almighty asked in the Qur'an about jesus, 'He and his mother eat food like mortal'.

You have the ordacity to quote Phillistian to me. knowing fully well this is the handiwork of paul. Anyway, i do not want to worship Jesus and i will not worship him. There is the God Who was before Jesus was created along with all of mankind. Now that God is worthy of Worship.

@Babyosisi; I now see through the layers of the garment that you wore to camourflage as human. Your hypocracy is well exposed. If nigeria is inhabited with people like you, you will no doubt trying to divide it. No trying to secede. See, God took you out of the country and nkept you in America, with only occasional visit to your homeland.

Allah, The Almughty God is always ready to receive the repentance of His creation, a slave. You may not like the word slavery. i guess the white maqn have sold you a bill of goods. for me, i am happy to be the slave of my Creator.

You wrote about somebody getting anoid, in time. You have to read all your entries and know that you have violated the essence and the moralities of humanity. you can only push a person so far. Unlike you, in your fakery> No one has slapped your face yet, but except that you preemptly beat the person down.

You insulted my prophet and my Lord continuously. This prophet is your prophet. this Lord is your Lord. Your ignorance will not let your heart reflect. Your heart is so hard, even a stone weeps when rain falls on it.

Thank God you are out of Nigeria. There is one less evildoer, in there. Since you claim to be a doctor, you must have seen a lot of dead people, yet your heart never soften. until death comes to you and at that time it will be too late. Just like it was for Pharaoh.

@Zulunation: There is no virgin for the people of Hell fire. thats where your kind belong. So don't worry about it. it is forbidden for people of hell whatever the felicities of paradise. Paradise is forbidden for those who associate anything with God, Allah the all powerful.
@Babyosisi; I am not surprised that you turn out to be this anyway. Afterall, you are from the group that belief that they will cheat death,. Every soul shall taste death. None will be spared of it. I guess you will find out when its your time. You can wait for the rapture that will never come.

@Babyosisi; Wait and i will wait along with you. In the day of judgement, we shall see who will be fuel for Fire of hell.

You will never delay the appointed time. No, no one can do it.

@Babyosisis: You wait and I will wait for the Judgement of Allah (GOD), your Creator and mine. His name you arrogantly spelled with small letter. Shame on you. I wonder if you need your own Nigerian prophet. seeing that there was a prophet sent by God to all mankind. After He had sent Jesus (AS) to his kinsfolks, the Children of israel.

I am sure you are too blind, the evil in you will never allow you to see reason. there are better people among Igbo women, all over the world and in Nigeria, who God opened their eyes and heart to see His Mercy. For you, your arrogance went so far that yopu think you can put out the Light of All Merciful. Only a person whose soul is condemned to Hellfire will think so. There is Over a Billion people on the surface of the earth, presently practising this religion. here you are, a poor soul, thinking you will destroy it. Take your place in hellfire. The fire of Hell is waiting to burn an evil soul like your. You deserve it. may god Almighty grant it to you, as He granted it to Pharaoh of Moses.

@TayoD: Shame on you for abandoning the religion of Ibrahiim (AS), known as the father of faith. Shame on you that you abandoned the religion of Ismail, Isiaq, Yaquub, Yusuf, Musa, Haruun, and others like Zakariya, Yahya and Isa ibn mariam. Shame on you that you abandoned these holy men of God and you followed Saul/Paul who have deceived you. Shame on you that you do not know the history of your people in yoruba land. Unless you are not a Yoruba. Even my children who are born in America know their origin.

You choose a religion that is unfamiliar to Jesus (AS), to others who were his companions. You should be ashamedof your self, abandoning your Creator and performing a worship to a creation, who did not command you to do so. That creation knew that he was commanded to adjoin the worship of his Lord and Lord of all to his people, the children of israel. Are you from the children of Israel, if you speak the truth.

You will have to answer to God in the day of judgement if you die in this misguidance, the wrong path you are on right now. Shame on you for you are reminded of your Lord, His worship, yet you are deaf to the reminder.

@TayoD: Why don't you ask your Jewish people whose religion is ethnical. You can be a Jew by religion except you are by blood. Sammy Davies Jr. converted, he was never accepted. Even as he tried so much to cooed up to the president of America, Nixon, he was given the cold shoulder.

In Islam, standing beside each other, shoulder to shoulder will be Wealthy, the poor, young and old. I know. This is my life. You, a man who does not know the history of his people, shame on you.

Moreover, you and your kind do not know the history of protestant sects of the christiandom. Your Bible is lifted from the catholic Bible, yet missing several book. This you call original book, wors of God!?

I wonder if you know what it really means to say something is original. Oh, you do not have any inkling what it means to say something is from God. It means it has to remain in the text that it is revealed in. That is why Qur'an in Arabic is what is known as Qur'an. No one will say that the translations are Qur'an. You can only rtecite Qur'an in Arabic.

Anyway, you do not know. It is not your fault. Your ignorance about your own tribal history is very glaring. How then do I expect you to know any thing about islam.

@TayoD: I know its all about me. Thats okay. As stated, if you are a yoruba man, you should have known the history of the Yorubas. it shows, from your ignorance that you do not know your own history.

Further, i had explained to you and your kind in many entries that I had made, amongst the companions of The Noble prophet (AS), there were blavk men and women. Bilal ibn rabah , the caller to prayer (RA) was a notable man amongst the men around the noble prophet. Muhammad's wet nurse was a black woman. You see people like you are not worth my response.

The lies you have spewd and your dishonesty, all of these, I ask God the Almighty to open your eyes. If you choose to be blind, then your case is with Allah, your Creator and mine.

I am aware of my heritage, but are you of yours. maybe, as advised that you should ask your elders.

@TayoD: It is you who is Ignorant. Unless you are not a Yoruba and you do not know the History of the Yorubas. I am a Yoruba, through and through, hence the origin of the yorubas is traced to the Arab penisula.

Further, the lineage of muhammad (AS) with Ibrahiim (AS) is through an African Black Egyptian.

You and your kind should go to your family elders and learn about the History of your tribes. You as a Kafr, lack the knowledge of Qur'an and hadith, hence you are completely ignorant of the science of both sources of Islamic jurispudence. In view of this, i do not want to respond to you, until you learn the methodology of Fiqh of Qur'an and hadith.

As an Ijebu man i know where my blood-line is from. Who is unjust excepect the one who hates because we said 'Our Lord is One and we worship none but He'.

You can even stay away from the topic that was meant for Muslims, strickly. You must have had a bad experience. I think you need to take a course in comparative religion. If you want I will connect you with a woman like yourself, well educated, black or white your choice. They were not born muslims, they discover it at age of maturity.

Your hatred of this religion will amount to Zero. God Almighty has committed Himself to protect it. If anyone were to apostate, it is because God knows the true nature of the heart of His servant/slave. For those of you who are arrogant and call yourselves sons/daughters of Almighty, I guess you will find out your true position with God Almighty, in the day after.

Those whose hearts are not deseased will hear the Word of god being recited and they will submit. We all die individually. Regardless of your position, President or others. Your time and my time are coming. You will not be punished for my bad deeds and I will not be punished for yours. If your belief is that Jesus (AS), an innocent man was punished for your sins, you will find out that you have mistaken later on, when the judgement of God is pronounced.

My only hope is that you will see the wrong of your way and change. God is always ready to receive the repentance of His creations.

If you think that you have a magnifying glass to put islam through, for sure, you have failed. Over the centuaries, there are people and groups like you, they are already gone and islam is here. Fortunately, jesus and muhammad are from the same clothe. Hence, when you talk badly about one, you have spoken badly about the other.

Isn't it shameful, that you an African Woman, whose forebearers The Europeans have Used The Bible to enslave some and carted them to far away lands, and the remaining they colonized. Among the desendants of the carted Africans, Christianity changed their nature in the New World. There is hatred/divisions among them and their continental family members. On the other hand, Islam brought them together in the fold of Brotherhood.

Babyosisi, there is only those who do not see the writing on the wall, that will not know that you are a woman from your identity. Fortunately, i have women in my life, hence, I treat every woman like member of my family. i have respected you. Even though, you now call me sissy. There is nothing sissy about me. Every person who knows me will tell you my nature, I fear no king, president or royalty. So my dear nigerian sister, you wait and I wait for the decision of our Creator. In the day of Judgement we will find out our fates. For sure, you as a christian and me as amuslim will not have the same abode thereby, God willing. That is if you continue in this path of yours. I remind you that even a worse enemy of islam and the Messenger (AS) have turned about face and became a leadre of Islam, Ibn khattab was the man. When the catholic were oppressing the Coptic christians, the coptic in Egypt wrote to him as the Amir of the fledging nation in madina. The Muslims came to the aids of the Coptics. This was how islam entered Egypt. Yet, no one was killed and no one was forced to convert. Among the igbo people who accepted islam, no one was forced to accept islam, yet. Islam is a freely chosen way of life.

I wonder why you believe along with those who believe like you, realising that christianity is a foreign religion to Black people, none of you ever research how the bible was compiled, the ever updatedness of it and the so many varieties of it. Unlike Islam, the companions of muhammad had in its ranks, Arabs, romans, Asians, Africans and others to include men and women, young and old. the Qur'an was completed in the lifetime of Muhammad (AS). Remember it was him alone the revelation came down to. Even his own speech and deeds were separated and cataloged to what is known as hadith and Sunnah.

About 911 you need to Google, then type 911 in the search and click on the video. I was told that CNN even played part of it last night.

You should pray to God to forgive you your sins. I ask God to forgive me mine.

Of recent, in the past two decades, pakistan, a country that its population is 100% muslims, bangladesh taht is predominantly muslims elected as their heads of governments, Women. I can not say that about America, where there is that inequalities between Blacks /Whites.

Also, the duties and social advancements in islam are equally to both genders. The first, second and third generations of the muslims, the leadership, role, the educators and wealthy among them are both men and women. Muhammad (AS), some of you have the guille to say evil things about him, encouraged his followers to acquire knowledge even if they have to go to China for it. One can only imagine the effort it will take a person from Arabia to get to China. Yet some people like Bukhari at his tender age of 16, left Russia/Asia to acquire knowledge in Arabia.

I wonder how the Nigerians; realising that the whole of Igbo land is not without Muslims, however minor the population, the yoruba, even the most remote part of it is not without a good size of Muslims and then the North is not without its own elites of christians, speak with these amount of evil in them, about my beloved.

Muhammad (AS) was so trusted by his people, even at the height of their enemity towards him and his followers, the arabs never stopped using him as their Trustee, just as it was before he declared his messengership.

On this thread, you have christians force-feeding Muslims with Secularization of Islam. Do I need anybody to teach me Islam, especially when the individual (S) is not a Muslim. To teachyou have to know what you are teaching; islam is not a make up religion. it was completed before the Almighty called by His beloved Muhammad (AS) back to Him. You individuals who are not muslims may not like it, it does not matter Diddle.

@Babyosisi; Since you have attacked my person, I need to point out feww things to you;
1) I joined this website just this past summer.
2) My interest is not to deride anyone and i do not think that is what i have done.
3) However, when you and your cohorts began to insult my Prophet, first I need to let you know that all you have written about him are lies.
4) People who are not even Muslims have written to praise him, From Mahaman Gandhi to Hart and others.
5) Your evil speech towards him will amount to no less than a witness against you before God in the Day of judgement. You belief in there is a Day of Judgement, dont you.
6) As far as I am concern, i have respected each and every one of you, men and women. If there is any good quality that i have displayed, it is Islam that has given it to me. If there is any bad behaviour in me, this is purely mine, alone. I have never threatened any body and it is not a quality of mine. Unfortunately, in your rage and that of those who support you in the like mind, you have failed to see that your personal/family experience, having lost people in riots, more ethnic than religious reason in your home country, you have been blinded by this.
7) You even claimed that the muslims in India/this is before pakistan broke away from them are the offending party between Hindu/Sikh. You need to ask the Indian muslims in India this before you begin to write your biases entries. You are entitled to your statements. however be truthful.

You and your kind will never hurt Islam, the last prophet of God, Muhammad (AS). Let us wait and see what will happen in the day of judgement. You and me will not be judged more harshly than an American, white or black. Everyone will be judged by the good he/she had sent forth.
To you is your religion to me is mine. I will never worship what you worship. Neither will you worship what i worship. To you your way, to me mine.

I have enough on my plate to be concern with your fragile emotion. My thought was that ou are a mature individual who could carry on a conversation, without that glass heart, like those others, who are like thugs; Everything that comes out of their heart is fight and more fight. Yet they do not know how the other person may receive it. It is not a personal issue with me. I am not interested in individual who have no respect and i will not respond to those entities again.

@Babyosisi;
As much as you may be eloquent in speech; it all amount to zero. A lie. You know, I used eloquency, thinking that it might help you to see the true picture of your error. First, Allah is the Almighty. Muhammad (AS) is the prophet that succeeded Jesus (AS). Qur'an is the revelation that came down to speak the truth; confirming all the truth that came before it. Not this fallacy perpetrated by Saul/paul,etc.

Your refusal of it will have no effect on it in this life; amongst the believers, it will have no effect on it in the day of Judgement. The day that will surely come, when the Lord of the World, the Almighty Allah, you stubbornly use small letter to write His name, will ask jesus if jesus had instructed any group of mankind to deitify him. In all the wise God knows and He has put forth the event in the Qur'an for those who have eyes to read it, those who have heart and mind to take it and ponder on it.

It is Islam who brought slavery to an end. later on, the Europeans enslaved West Africa, your family and mine and some they carted to Euro and the americas. You need to be truthful I am sure it will be difficult, but try. Further amount gender equality, it was islam that liberated Women from the yoke of man's domination. The Europeans just copied that not even more than 200 years ago. In Europe and america, women are looked as part of the man's property. the women in america did not have the right to vote until less than 150 years ago, even less. Only few had the right to owning lands and other esential properties.

There were very wealthy women among the early muslims, not just khadijah, (RA). There were scholars and nurses. there were who had more holdings than their husbands and used to give charity to their husbands. It is islamic tradition that whatever a woman acquires belongs to her alone. her husband and her men folks have no right over its usage. That is very different from cultural arabic tradition or for that matter the african tradition.

Even here, i have used the islamic tradition to approach you. It is possible that any man's heart will lean towards a woman. This is why i have spoken to you that I will introduce you to a woman. If it was the african tradition in me, then the condition will be different.

As to the women covering; the question really, who is forcing the women in the west to cover themselves. Yet they do it and they are better for it. Are you ladies going about naked. What value is your body when you have exposed it to all the men in the street when you out from your home.

Please take what is good in the west and do not be like the one who does not know the difference between right and wrong.

Anyway, if you live in cold climate, Winter will be here soo. No one will have to tell you to cover up. Yet, when you do it, it will not benefit you because you are obeying the injuction of GOD. DId Jesus (AS) mother, Mariam not cover herself.

Who is better inthe sight of God, the modest woman like mariam or the todays woman who will even show her undergarment, yet she thinks she is dressed.

@Babyosisi; Those adiths you have quoted, are weak adiths. the chain of narrations are very weak. They are adiths that have been proven to have had the hands of the enemies of Islam; this is an effort by them to bring discourse and divisions into the rank.

A proof of that is that Muhammad (AS) did not give the position of Muhaddin (Caller to prayer) to his cousin, Ali Ibn Abu talib, even as he lobbied for it. The Muhaddithans (Those who studied Hadith ) have dis proven it.

Further, when a noblility from the Makkan Arabs insulted Bilal ibn Rabbah (RA), a former slave/Black man from Ethopia, who by the way, Abu Bakr (RA) ransomed him from slavery. Allah's messenger (AS) was very angry at the noble arab. He said to him, 'you still have the evil/quality of the time of Ignorance' (Jahaliyah). The noble arab was so ashamed that he put his head on the groungd begging for forgiveness from Bilal. he asked Bilal to step on his head as a means of washing himself away from the evilness of his deed. Bilal said to him he could not step on the head of a person who prostrate his face to the Lord of the Universe. Such were the quality of the men who surrounded Muhammad (AS), the Noble soul, the beloved of Al-Rahman.

I could give you a thousand and one more example and a means of disproving your entries. I do not know if it will benefit you. However, the DOOR of THE MERCY OF THE ONE GOD is always open.

You have seen how your Nigerian christian brothers and sisters do not even know there is relationship between Catholicizm and protestant sects; same christians. Infact, the catholic bible existed before the protestants. The protestants used the catholic's bible as the base of its own bible, but omitting a few of the books.

Even the catholics can let cardinal Arienze of Nigeria become the Pope, this time around when he is the most qualified.

So my dear sister, go talk to you christian brethrens. When you want to learn about Islam. I will be ready to teach you. Infact, because you are a woman, I will introduce you to another Woman.

You want an Ibo woman, other Nigerian, African or Blak or white American. There is that individual ready to guide you.