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Politics / Re: PDP To Recruit Atiku,kwankwaso To Contest Against Buhari In 2019 by olivertwist: 9:53am On Jun 24, 2015
Contest against Buhari?
Investment / Re: Dubai To Build The Biggest Mall In The World, Complete With Theme Park by olivertwist: 9:55pm On Jul 07, 2014
iamord: I feel like crying! What is happening to africans and it leaders.. Why r we not putting ourselves on the map.. The way the western world and asia is gapping us in knowlege and every sphere in life is alarming.. I wonder if their officials steal money.. They just want to make name and history.m they r thinking of a future. In dubai and tokyo we get a glimpse of what the future world with flying cars and other innovation will look like.. But its as if african urban plan has been frozen up in the ice age.. I know eko atlantic city and some other ones in africa is going on.. Let's just get it done and no too much talk. My tire of our behavior

My brother, I agreed with you 100% apart from the bolded. Believe it or not, Nigeria is on the world map............but only for all the wrong reasons you can think of.

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Politics / Re: I’m Ready For PDP Forces – Aregbesola by olivertwist: 11:11am On Jul 07, 2014
cry cry cry While over 200 teenage girls are still in Boko Harams camp in Sambisa forest, the Minister of State for Defence is in Osun state leading the fight against opposition parties. Only in Nigeria. I'm just imagining this Minister of State Defence campaigning in Osun while his teenage daughter is in Borno with Shekarau in Sambissa forest. I just pity my country... angry angry angry

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Politics / Re: Okonjo-Iweala To Present 2014 Budget To National Assembly by olivertwist: 11:40am On Dec 19, 2013
Only Madam 'Okondo' Iweala understand the budget cos she's the sole brain behind it. She's the only one that can defend it. Even the President don't understand or have a clue about it. I think the President does not want to embarass himself any further with the budget hence...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Manchester City Vs Arsenal - (6 - 3) On 14th December 2013 by olivertwist: 3:53pm On Dec 14, 2013
If I'm Arsene Wenger, I woud have started Arteta and Carzola before Jack Wilshere and Ozil and later substitute them. Up Arsenal

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Education / Re: Obi Distribute Laptops & Printers To Anambra Schools by olivertwist: 2:33pm On Nov 13, 2013
nogames:

Even with the link that shows contrary to your claim, you people still go ahead and propagate lies..
Open OMO does not cost N8.6b instead it saves Osun state governmnent N8.6b..
http://www.channelstv.com/home/2013/06/03/opon-imo-will-save-osun-n8-4-billion-of-textbook-procurement-costs/

My friend don't mind them

Controversy: One of the reason i love Peter Obi. More action less noise
Compare 22,500 laptops plus 1400 printer with Osun state 3600 Opom Imo fraud
•22,500 laptops plus 1400 printer = 2.65billion
•3,600 Opom Imo ipad = 8.6billion
Aregbesola is a fraudster but his gullible supporters will never admit it


Just imagine the bolded:

N8,600,000,000 divided by 3600 = N2,400,000 approx. So, in other words, each student will be carrying an Opon Imo ipad worth N2.4 Million about. grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin Common sense is not really common

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Religion / Re: Testimonies On Why We Stopped Tithing Here by olivertwist: 6:20pm On Oct 09, 2013
fr_evangel: @ mko2005 and Olivertwist, I have seen that both of you have hardened hearts and don't mind twisting scriptures to establish falsehood.

Every scripture on tithe you will ever need and every explanation has been given, but you have ignored it deliberately.
Compare what you just did, Olivertwist, (beating your chest because you gave 25,000) and what the Pharisee did in Luk_18:12 I fast two days a week, and I give you one tenth of all my income.' and what Paul said here Eph_2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
So it is about money doubling and multiplication? You think your financial increase is tied to the fact that you tithe?
See where this doctrine of tithe has taking you to, back straight to the Law! You forgot that the law could not save anyone, that's the reason for grace.

I will not explain further, If you are interested, read through the scriptures I've previously posted.
The grace of the Lord be with you. Amen





Why do you think I'll want to boast to a faceless person in a forum about paying my Tithe. We are discussing about Tithe and I gave an example of how God opened my eyes about giving Tithes. I was once disobedient to God like you concerning Tithe. I use to cheat God by playing smart with my Tithe until God revealed my wrong to me. After I started giving my Tithe, I said God helped me from giving N100s as Tithe to N25000 within a short period of time.
My brother, believe me, Tithe is a SECRET Satan does not want you to understand. And you quoting thousands of scriptures in order to convince people from giving Tithes, will not work because we are giving back to God from what He has given us. Call it a vow if you like. It is completely different from giving freely. Paying Tithes does not end there. it doesn't stop us from giving to the needy in and outside the body of Christ.It is another level of faith and trust in God. Remember, Satan can quote the Bible from Genesis to Revelation. All you need is to open your spiritual eyes.

Shalom.

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Religion / Re: Testimonies On Why We Stopped Tithing Here by olivertwist: 6:02pm On Oct 09, 2013
Candour:

grin grin

Actually in my church. Its the truth and i lie not

grin grin grin I believe you bro. Take care

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Religion / Re: Testimonies On Why We Stopped Tithing Here by olivertwist: 4:18pm On Oct 09, 2013
m.k.o2005:

You can say the scripture lies if you like ! But i ask you,how many times did you see Melchizedek after the first tithe he collected tithe from Abraham ? Show me another time he appeared in the bible then i will show you another time he collected tithe ! You have not even bothered to ask urself how come Melchizedek appeared just once and one of the first things HE did was to collect tithe and you are here saying tithe should be thrown away ! The only three things Melchizedek did was to bring out bread and wine,blessed Abraham and collected tithe !
Jacob has already been blessed by God but bein man that he was,he decided to enter a covenant with God becos HE knows God does not break covenants ! See below scripture to show you clearly that Jacob has already been blessed by God before he vowed just to seal it with God :
Genesis 28:12-15''He had a dream in which he saw a stairway resting on the earth, with its top reaching to heaven, and the angels of God were ascending and descending on it. There above it stood the Lord, and he said: “I am the Lord, the God of your father Abraham and the God of Isaac. I will give you and your descendants the land on which you are lying. Your descendants will be like the dust of the earth, and you will spread out to the west and to the east, to the north and to the south. All peoples on earth will be blessed through you and your offspring. I am with you and will watch over you wherever you go, and I will bring you back to this land. I will not leave you until I have done what I have promised you.”
See also below scripture to show you that it was after the above blessings that he vowed to tithe :
Genesis 28:20-22 ''Then Jacob made a vow, saying, “If God will be with me and will watch over me on this journey I am taking and will give me food to eat and clothes to wear so that I return safely to my father’s household, then the Lord[d] will be my God 22 and this stone that I have set up as a pillar will be God’s house, and of all that you give me I will give you a tenth.” He was already blessed before the vow but as human that he is,who knows God don't break covenant,he decided to enter the covenant ! Trust God to be faithful with HIS words not to talk of covenant ! I can on my own count it as an error on the part of Jacob for not believing on the words of blessings of BABA,but trust he is human and what do you expect !
When Hebrews said Jesus is the priest according to the order of Melchizedek and if you want to understand what that means just go check out what Melchizedek did in Genesis 14 and you will under stand what Jesus did and is still doing in the body of Christ today !

I reiterate according to the word of God. TITHING IS ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY NEW TESTAMENT !

GOD HELP US


May God really bless you for these revelations bro. Instead of some people to tap knowledge they'll be using strong head.

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Religion / Re: Testimonies On Why We Stopped Tithing Here by olivertwist: 4:16pm On Oct 09, 2013
Candour:

Good for you. Luckily for me i don't worship where greedy and insatiable pastors preside. in my church, Needs are met and everybody is happy. There is no where a Christian is asked to work with a percentage. That was for Jews who were practicing with the shadow before the substance came to us Christians. today i can give up 90% to any worthy cause that the Spirit leads me to give.Its not limited to a building called a church.

Christ said give to the naked, sick and destitute and when you do, he said you give to him. what greater commandment on giving do you need?

give your 10% to your pastor or church, you are not paying TITHE. Read Lev 27:30-33 to know God's tithe if you're interested.

'In your church' or your house grin grin Talk true. Let's shame the devil
Religion / Re: Testimonies On Why We Stopped Tithing Here by olivertwist: 2:44pm On Oct 09, 2013
Candour:

You gave 25,000 and you're screaming for a pat on the back? Is that all God is worth to you? How much of the rest did you spend on yourself and how much did you give to those less privileged than you?

how about i boast a little too. i'm footing the bills incurred on all liquids(soft drinks, water, wines) consumed at the wedding of someone who can't afford to pay it. Guess what, its multiples of the 'big' tithe you've been mouthing since yesterday so does that qualify me to go stand before God and demand a profit? Can you place a value on the air you breathe, the limbs you walk with and the brain to think things up? God doesn't need your money. He's God for crying out loud. Rather Christ asked you to give to that needy person by your side because when you do, you give to him

Learn to give without expecting back in return. I saw all your posts and they all have something in common: a sign of a very selfish individual who would not give out a dime until he's sure of what he's going to get from it. My brother, that is a very unchristian trait and unlike the spirit of the Macedonians you referenced in your post. Read that portion of the bible, they gave to HELP THE POOR CHRISTIANS at Jerusalem, not to give an already overfed pastor.

My friend, i dont tithe. stopped over 2 years ago and i am far from somebody for whom things are not working.

Learn some selflessness and prudent use of resources entrusted to you by God.

This is a faceless forum hence the reason why I mentioned my Tithe. In reality, only God knows. Moreover, I only said that, to let you know that as Abraham's children, we can give God our Tithe like Abraham did when He was blessed by God.

About giving to needy, check my past comments. You cannot say because you want to give to the needy, you'll now ignore your pastor and the needy in the church by not paying your Tithe. Even, the Macedonian christians' contributions was for the teachers, widows, gospel and the needy in the body of Christ.

So my friend, give your Tithe to your church where you worship.

Something tells me most of you guys don't even go to church. Hence these attacks against the church.

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Religion / Re: Testimonies On Why We Stopped Tithing Here by olivertwist: 2:06pm On Oct 09, 2013
Candour:

And i'll remember to ask God to save you from greed because you have turned God to a money doubler or a lottery scheme......bring 10% get 100% returns

Somebody just LIED that Christ collected tithes and you're telling him weldone? you better pray for him very well

peace

Who is greedy between us. Just 3days ago, by God's grace, I gave N25,000 as my Tithe and offering. Just few years back, my Tithe was just in hundreds and you say I should not Give 10% back to God who bless me with the money. Is it your money? grin. Who are you?

My friend, God said put me to test with your Tithe? The reason why Tithe is not working for you is because you either gave it grudgingly with complaint not with thanksgiving like our father Abraham did. Or perharps, you didn't believe in it?

No wonder you guys keep hiding under free-will. I'm I surprised? Do you even know why Paul asked the people of Corinthians to give willingly? He didn't have to say anything to the people of Macedonians b4 they gave happily?
Religion / Re: Testimonies On Why We Stopped Tithing Here by olivertwist: 1:33pm On Oct 09, 2013
Wow! @ Mko2005,I admire your courage. Welldone bro. But like I earlier said, these people are rebels.All we can do is to keep praying for God to open their spiritual eyes and soften their hearts of stone.

Shalom

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Religion / Re: Testimonies On Why We Stopped Tithing Here by olivertwist: 2:06pm On Oct 08, 2013
@mko2005,

Please try and avoid a back and forth arguments with these people. They've hardened their minds not to give their Tithe to God because it's their money.

I don't think there's anything you haven't touch or said. Remember what Apostle Paul said about arguments.

God bless you bro. I've learned more from your writings. Shalom

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Religion / Re: Testimonies On Why We Stopped Tithing Here by olivertwist: 3:08am On Oct 08, 2013
@olivertwist

I appreciate your answer; thanks a lot.

Thanks

About your reference to King Saul and the Amalekites, the simple answer is that there is No commandment or obligation for a Christian to tithe.

My brother, I’m not here to convince or confuse you about Tithe. That’s the work of the Holy Spirit in you.

As to your answer that Mr D is robbing God, in disobedience, sinning and inviting the devourer - I am afraid it contradicts what Jesus said.

How?

What Jesus said is that by giving to the orphanage, Mr D is actually giving to Jesus Himself.

Right. I'm talking about Disobedience in Tithing here, not offerings? Remember, in Mathew 13:13, Jesus told the Pharises not to pay Tithe alone and leave the others. They must do all.

Finally may I ask one more question: why is it not a sin of disobedience if a Christian does not do as Jesus said in the following -

Jesus said: ""If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."

[b]To understand what Jesus said above better, we need to look at what transpired between him and the rich young man. Note: The man is a young man (likely a bachelor like Jesus Christ). He’s educated. He’s religious. He’s wealthy.

My understanding of that passage is that, Jesus did not mean we (as Christians) should go and sell all our possessions and give to the poor as he advised the young rich man.

What Jesus was saying is that, if you a young rich man wants to follow me or be my disciple like Peter, John, Matthew, Mark etc, you have to first sell all your belongings. (Remember, Jesus was still physically present on earth). Do away with your money because where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. And you cannot serve God and mammon. That’s why He said to him, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven.

Imagine, if you are a young married man with a wife and kids and, you give all your possessions (including all your money) to a poor beggar outside your house because you think you cannot follow Jesus Christ without being poor. Instantly, the beggar will become rich and you, God forbids, becomes poor. Then we are back to ‘square one’. This is not wisdom. Moreover, your family will suffer because of your stupidity.[/b]

However, I believe like the young rich man, today, Jesus can still speak to us through the Holy Spirit as individuals to sell our possessions and give to the poor or someone in need. I’ve seen and heard it happen. Hope this helps.
Religion / Re: Testimonies On Why We Stopped Tithing Here by olivertwist: 1:24am On Oct 08, 2013
Enigma: @Olivertwist

Answer this please:

1. Mr D earns 1000 per month; each month he gives 50 in church and 150 to a local orphanage.

2. Is Mr D tithing? 3. Is Mr D robbing God? 4. Is Mr D committing a sin? 5. Is Mr D inviting the devourer?

smiley


My brother, by the grace of God, I pay my Tithe and give offerings to orphanages all over the world.

1. I'll rather give 100 to my church and the remaining 100 to a local orphanage.
2. No
3. yes
4. yes, sin of disobedience
5. Yes Mal. 3:3-12


Do you remember what King Saul did when God commanded him to kill all the Amalekites completely,including their animals? He was wise in his own eyes, he left the fat cows, rams, goats etc as a sacrifice unto God and killed the thin ugly ones. But you know the rest of the story.

Please kindly read the following: may God open your eyes as you read.

http://len-seekingthelord..co.uk/2012/03/where-should-you-give-your-tithe.html
Religion / Re: Testimonies On Why We Stopped Tithing Here by olivertwist: 12:47am On Oct 08, 2013
naijadeyhia:


Under the Old covenant God promised blessings for Israel’s obedience to the commandments and curses for their disobedience to the commandments. In the New Testament, once the new covenant is established to tithe is being disobedient, to give freely is being obedient.

The Bible says, the law is only a shadow of the good things that are coming--not the realities themselves. I believe you fully understand what a shadow means. There’s a huge difference between you and your shadow. You are more important than your shadow. Now, if Tithe is a shadow (Old covenant like you said), how much more are we as Christians ought to give freely to God now in this new covenant having been saved by the precious blood of Jesus Christ.

Remember, God so loved the world, that He gave His ONE & ONLY begotten son (new covenant)[/b] as a sacrifice in order to save us from eternal death. No more sacrifice of rams, goats, doves, sheep etc which are all shadows of what was to come (Jesus Christ). The blood of Jesus Christ cannot be compare with the blood of a ram.

Personally, I think [b]the least a Christian should give back to God freely is 10% (Tithe)
of his/her earnings because God has given us something far more better than before. And to whom more is given, more is expected and this includes all that God has blessed us with.
Religion / Re: Testimonies On Why We Stopped Tithing Here by olivertwist: 8:16pm On Oct 07, 2013
So, I'm I sinning against God by giving my tithe?
Religion / Re: Testimonies On Why We Stopped Tithing Here by olivertwist: 8:13pm On Oct 07, 2013
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Religion / Re: Testimonies On Why We Stopped Tithing Here by olivertwist: 4:16pm On Oct 07, 2013
Pastor Kun:

The bolded is another lie often told by tithe gospel merchants. I challenge you to quote scripture to support this heresy. Remember it's a grievous sin to add too or twist the word of God.

As you can see, so far, I've not quoted any scripture cos I know even Satan tried to deceive his creator- Jesus Christ by quoting scriptures.

But what I'm sure of is that, I'm not sinning against God by paying my tithe.

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Religion / Re: Testimonies On Why We Stopped Tithing Here by olivertwist: 2:24pm On Oct 07, 2013
Pastor Kun:

You are a real olivertwist smiley hope you don't twist scripture as well to justify your unscriptural act of tithing.


grin grin cheesy

My brother, like I said, I'm praying to God to give me the grace to be able to give more to God(note I said God, not man).

I've been deceived in the past by the devil regarding tithe. I've been deliberately disobedient to the word of God as regards tithes in the past and I know the consequences.

Brother, it's one thing not to pay your tithe, it's another thing going about preaching to people not to give their tithes to God. Remember this, if you don't obediently give your tithe to God, you may give it to Satan, directly or indirectly if you are not careful.

I'll rather advice you to concentrate your energy on the judicious use of tithes for the propagation of the kingdom of God. Shalom
Religion / Re: Testimonies On Why We Stopped Tithing Here by olivertwist: 9:45am On Oct 07, 2013
Praise God. Earned N217,250 for the month of September. Paid N25,000 as tithe and offering. Can't wait to give more back to God who Owns me and everything I've got.

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Politics / Re: President Jonathan’s Nigeria At 53 Speech - Full Text by olivertwist: 11:48am On Oct 01, 2013
solomon111: Nice speech.
For a moment i thought i was listening to Abraham lincoln.

I hope you are not a dead man walking cos the last time I checked, Abraham Lincoln is dead.

The voice of JEG the writings of Abati.

Anyway, Happy Independence anniversary to Nigeria, my beloveth country.
Politics / Re: Peter Obi In Tears, Buries 4 Family Members Killed In Kano Blast by olivertwist: 10:53am On Sep 27, 2013
Father and 3 children in a day cry cry cry So sad. RIP
Politics / Re: Nigeria's Middle-Class Increases By 28 percent!! by olivertwist: 9:58am On Sep 27, 2013
It's well with Nigeria and Nigerians
Politics / Re: Ogun Ohaneze Ndi-igbos Endorse Amosun For Second Term by olivertwist: 12:41pm On Sep 25, 2013
Just like saying: Anambra Odua Ndi-Yorubas endorse Ngige for Governor. grin grin grin
Politics / Re: Why BRT Buses Are In Very Bad Shape- Lagos Commissioner by olivertwist: 11:38am On Sep 25, 2013
President Babatunde Fashola, please hear the voice of my people on NL and grant their requests by purchasing 5000 Innoson buses for each 36 states and FCT. If you can do this, I can assure you that come 2015, you'll be re-elected as our president. Thank you Mr President.
Politics / Re: Chief Achike Udenwa, the former gove‘under APC The Igbo’ll Be President By 2023’ by olivertwist: 7:33pm On Sep 24, 2013
Chief Achike Udenwa, the former governor of Imo State, recently fielded some questioin his office in Abuja where he spoke about state of the nation, chances of All Progressives Congress, APC, in Igboland, 2015 and the possibility of Nigerian president of Igbo extraction. Below are excerpts:



We’ve had almost 14 years of civilian rule, are we moving forward in these few years of democracy?

I would say we’re moving forward but it depends on which direction. We’re moving forward and you would know that there’s a learning process.

A lot has happened; a new leadership has emerged. The only problem is that we’re not as committed as – the Ziks, the Awolowos, the Aminu Kanoes, the Sardaunas, etc. At the time, they were so committed the fight was different.

The fight was against the whiteman and the aim was to gain independence for Nigeria, which they achieved for us. But unfortunately, we’ve not been able to manage ourselves well thereafter. And this comes because after the whiteman has left we’re now fighting ourselves.

It becomes internal. The struggle for power has been raging since that time till now.

Raging amongst ethnic groups, raging amongst Political Parties; raging amongst Religious bodies, etc. so that has been the confusion at the scene and the ordinary Nigerian is the worst for it.



What is the way out?

Even if the elite, even if they want to transform this country under whatever name you give it, you must carry the people along. Now the ordinary people, their wants are not so many – basic wants – have three square meals a day; send their children to school; be able to attend hospital when sick; after the children have come out of school, to secure jobs, etc. So, you see, these are the basic needs of the ordinary man.

And no matter what you’re transforming and you don’t carry them along and you don’t try to meet with these needs, you will never succeed. Then it means you’re doing an elitist transformation where only the elite gain. So, let us see how we can look very seriously downwards and see what the man in the street wants. We have enough resources to meet these wants.



Recently you raised the flag of APC in Imo State. What do you think are the chances of APC in Igboland?

I see very bright chances for APC. The South-east has followed PDP from the beginning till now and has nothing to show for it. The orchestral Igbo Presidency, there’s no plan.

In 2011 we had a body called Igbo Political Forum and we were working seriously towards having an Igbo president elected and our target then was 2019. Our ambition then was that latest by 2019 the Igbo Presidency would be a reality. But we scuttled it,

Yes, 2019, latest by then we would be having Igbo president. But we messed it up because of selfish needs. Some people at the last minute jettisoned the organisation and then worked for themselves and not for the Igbo.

And today as far as PDP is concerned there is no plan. At APC 1 think we have an opportunity and I tell the Igbo that if they work hard under APC; if they support APC and work hard under it, my projection is that by the year 2023, an Igbo man would be president.



2023?

Yes. We’ve got to be realistic. I said latest. It’s possible we get the Igbo Presidency in 2015 but my own projection is that latest by 2023 we will get it.



After who and who might have ruled?

The way things are going whoever rules from this 2015 by 2023 latest an Igbo man will get it.



Even if Jonathan comes back, are we taking it as an assumption that an Igbo man will become president after him?

No, I’ve never believed that the next president after Jonathan will be an Igbo man. That has never been part of my planning. Knowing Nigeria the way I do, I don’t want to be over optimistic and then promise our people what cannot happen. I don’t see President Jonathan, handing over to an Igbo man.



Why are you saying that, why is an Igbo leader like you talking this way?

It’s not possible. We know the trend. Even when I was in PDP I was part of the extended caucus that signed the minutes of that meeting we had in the Villa where we agreed that after Obasanjo a Northerner will rule. And after that it comes to the south .

So, within PDP, there is no hope that after Jonathan another Southerner or Igboman will move straight into the Presidency. This was the calculation we had in 2011 and we told our people then that we had an option that was the time we met with the Northern group under Adamu Ciroma. And we had an agreement. It was in the papers; it was published and we signed.



Do you actually realise the Social implication of what you’re saying?

What is it?

You were telling Igbos that…(cutting me off)?

I haven’t said anything other than that I said latest. The meaning of latest here is that they can equally have it earlier if they work hard. I want to be on the safe side and I say if we work hard, latest by 2023 an Igbo President would emerge.



Would emerge?

Yes, it may be shocking to you but that’s the truth of the matter. What of those who promised us 2015; where are they? (Laughter) The same people who promised us 2015 are the people telling us today that Jonathan is entitled to a second term. So, did they not know in 2011 that he would be entitled to a second term?



So, when you people were pursuing the Northern President issue 2015 wasn’t even in the agenda?

Yes! What realistically we were thinking at that time was 2019.



They promised us 2015 but realistically we knew that was 2019.

I know you are shocked. You will be shocked you want me to say we will have Igbo president tomorrow. You can’t have it without working for it. What’s the organization on the ground? What contacts have you made? Or is it that by 2015 an Igbo man will be president?

Be realistic we lost 2015 in 2011. If we had followed the programme in 2011 probably we would have had it in 2015 or 2019 latest. This is the truth. I will never believe that a South-South president will hand over to a South-east president. I said then and I’m still saying it today. I said it obviously then and I made it clear that it would be impossible in the Nigeria context.

So why not work for something that is possible? There was an interview Chief Edwin Clark gave in June; I think it was in June. I saw that his interview as being frank.



What did he say?

He said that the Igbo are not yet prepared for the presidency; that they have not started any move to run for the Presidency of this country. He said that the South-South started in 2003 and he concluded by saying that when Igbos are ready that they would help the Igbos.



So getting prepared to run for a Nigerian President has now been turned into an ethnic affair and becoming violent. That’s the preparation I’ve seen that the North is making. The same tactics the west and south-south applied?

No matter the method they used in their own case, what we’re asking ourselves is what is the method the Igbos are using now


Do you know what I want to tell you when you ask about the method the Igbo are using now?

You said the other ones are violent. So, what is the Igbos using now?


You might not be comfortable with what I want to say?

Ok, go ahead, go ahead.


It’s an indictment on people like you?

I agree


Because you are an Igbo leader?

Exactly, as a group I accept that indictment.


Let me return that question to you. My leader, what are you people doing for Igbo Presidency?

What I think we are doing, there are many groups. But those of us in the APC, we look at what is happening today, an Igbo man could probably in 2015 indicate, my party has not zoned anything. We have not decided where the presidency is going. So it may be the Igbo man has a chance in 2015.

Assuming he doesn’t make it in 2015, whoever enters there, the Igbo man can now prepare very well and see that by 2023 an Igbo man would be President. That’s the situation.

Your calculation doesn’t even work?

Why?

Because assuming you have accepted after Jonathan it will not be an Igbo man but it’s going to be a Northerner?

Yes, but I didn’t say a Northerner. You didn’t hear me mention any ethnic group (laughter)


Ok, I withdraw that. Now, it would be any group after Jonathan and Jonathan may end his tenure in 2019. Assuming he is re-elected in 2015?

You can’t assume it. I’m talking from the point of view of APC. And from the point APC are we expecting Jonathan to be re-elected? No-no. You’re asking me, I cannot tell you what any other person is doing on the APC point of view, I’m calculating that if the Igbos don’t make it in 2015,that definitely we must work hard for it. Nobody will dash you the presidency. It means that Igbos should come into APC and work hard for it?

Ok, your hard work is in the context of APC?

Yes, in the context of APC. That’s why I cannot speak for PDP. I’m speaking for APC. For me, the PDP is gone.


Gone, in terms of?

That is, our chances in PDP have gone. We lost it in 2011, I tell you the truth. No matter the way you see it, we lost it in 2015. we need to start positioning ourselves through APC to be sure that if we don’t make it in this 2015, because my party has not in any way said the presidency is zoned to this side. So, if we’re not able to make it in the struggle this year, we must begin seriously to work under APC and achieve it latest by 2023.

There’s a problem there?

What is the problem?

The problem is that the Igbo see this APC as a Yoruba party?

Some say it’s a Yoruba party, others say it’s a Northern party. Why can’t we make it an Igbo party? That’s why we’ve got to work hard within APC. You can see the baptism it’s getting. Some say it’s a Yoruba party, some say; Oh, it’s a Hausa-Fulani party.They just give these tags just to scare our people away. APC is a Nigerian party and a lot depends on how you work on it. If in the 2015 election we work hard I promise you APC will take a minimum of three States and of the five in the South-East. And that’s the beginning.

Three States from the South – East?

Yes

Can you name the States?

I don’t want to name them. Any of the five is an opportunity.

You‘re taking Anambra?

By the grace of God. That would be the beginning

You already have Imo State right?

Yes, we have Imo State. So we will add one more and I said minimum. Supposing we take five of them.

Mind you it’s not the powerful people that vote; it’s the grassroots that vote who wants to look at the APC as the party that wants to cater for the ordinary people.

And by the time we release our manifesto, by the time we start working, start our campaigns, you will see that the ordinary man will see that’s where his salvation lies. So he can leave elites like you in the PDP. We hope to be in control of the centre; for us to execute our programmes we hope, first and foremost to grab the centre.

We’re not joking. It’s not a question of dragging people out of the centre. And group that needs the APC most it’s the Igbos.


What makes you think so?

Yes, I think so because when our States are in into the programmes of APC we will see development in Igboland. That’s one. And again the Igbo Presidency we’re talking about becomes more realizable unlike in the PDP where there’s no programme for it.

But some leaders come out and say you will get Igbo Presidency tomorrow morning only for them to get “settled” themselves. Approximates and the rest of them, contracts, etc when they get these things as far as they’re concerned, Igbo Presidency can wait. We’re not that way in APC. We are quite dedicated in APC.

For more: http://sunnewsonline.com/new/cover/under-apc-the-igboll-be-president-by-2023/
Career / Re: National Association Of Unemployed Graduates Openly Invites Trustees And Members by olivertwist: 6:32pm On Sep 24, 2013
Well done guys. After appointing your leaders, my advice for you guys is to declare a national day asap for your association whereby all unemployed graduates in all 36 states and FCT will gather at the state house of assemblies and those in Abuja will go to the National Assembly, by doing this, you'll embarass and put all our corrupt leaders to shame.
Politics / Re: Pregnant Woman Killed, Others Injured As Enugu Building Collapses by olivertwist: 10:02am On Sep 24, 2013
So sad cry cry cry A pregnant woman. But why are they (police) now investigating whether the landlord has govt approval or not to build the house? angry

Someone should've prevented this disaster. angry
Politics / Re: Dangote Promises To End Fuel Import In 4 Years by olivertwist: 12:17am On Sep 22, 2013
Dangote is a business genius. He knows that with the Ogun/ondo deep sea port in place, all crude oil in West Africa leads to his refinary. Sharp guy.
Politics / Re: Dangote Promises To End Fuel Import In 4 Years by olivertwist: 11:36pm On Sep 21, 2013
J12: How does he intend to make a profit from his refineries?

By selling his finished products to you and I at any profitable prices. Or, have you got any real alternatives? Believe me, he's going to make his profits more than he himself can imagine. So my friend, what you should be thinking of is how you 'gonna' make more money to buy his stuffs.

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