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absoluteSuccess:ójuujù macof kẹ ? You make me laugh Baba/Bába/Bábá/Bàbá . Someone who does not know awo's voice ? But easily, mention "ikin and ìṣẹ̀ṣé. .See him, you see abuses in packets. I am not bothered about him jarè. Squad awọn bad teachers.Awọn étuu(otuu) pò'wè wọn ni ìjẹ̀bu kò da ìjẹ̀ṣa ò suwọ̀n/sunwọ̀n Ẹnikan dé ó ni ohun ìjẹ̀bujẹ̀ṣa. A fi èpe ràí lati èkìti Seriously, this platform will naturally would have been better without tantrums because I am in different platforms where there are even more than 100+ professors,200+ phd holders,mauverns, others contributors from different fields where hieroglyphs, Semitic history, world history, Yoruba history as well as are discussed, where courtesy is highly regarded. But here ,it is a different ball game entirely when a superior information ends up being attcked with vulgar word usage against the accused . Rather with credible point to counter |
TAO11:You see, there is nothing you have than insult or aptly usage of vulgar term for someone who claims to be a woman! Learn tobe humble. Suurù ni ó máa nfún ni Ii imọ̀. Fact, in 2016, dna test were done in part of Israel as regarding the gene of the fossil human found or human fossil found(choose your choice). And guess what ? According to ancient DNA analyses conducted by Lazaridis et al. (2016) on Natufian skeletal remains from present-day northern Israel, the Natufians carried the Y-DNA (paternal) haplogroups E1b1b1b2 (xE1b1b1b2a, E1b1b1b2b) (2/5; 40%), CT (2/5; 40%), and E1b1 (xE1b1a1, E1b1b1b1) (1/5; 20%). Haplogroup E1b1 is found primarily among North Africans, [b]Sub-Saharan Africans, [/b]and among non-Arab Levantines such as Samaritans, also it was found in Egypt (40%), Jordan (25%), Palestine (20%), and Lebanon (17.5%).[41] In terms of autosomal DNA, these Natufians carried around 50% of the Basal Eurasian (BE) and 50% of Western Eurasian Unknown Hunter Gatherer (UHG) components. . However, they were slightly distinct from the northern Anatolian populations that contributed to the peopling of Europe, who had higher Western Hunter Gatherer (WHG) inferred ancestry. Natufians were strongly genetically differentiated from Neolithic Iranian farmers from the Zagros Mountains, who were a mix of Basal Eurasians (up to 62%) and Ancient North Eurasians (ANE) Kindly tell us the Dna analysis on Yorubas .Learn and add value to what you already know. |
TAO11:I do not mention because I chose to. Instead, you came to dent my undentable image! Oya , there is evidence of Phonecian in West Africa. There is nothing delusional about it. Instead, you lacked the pedigree to face up with reality . Stop insulting and learn. As simple as ABC. Have you ever heard of Osara in Ileife account ? Learn also if you havent and make sure you read about Semitic name of a prototype feminine personality in Hebrews oral account. Kindly learn and add value to what you know. ...period. |
TAO11:YOU ARE A LIAR AND A MASTER OF IT. Odẹdẹ ni ibẹẹrẹ.......charity begins at home. A disrespectful lady can never has a fulfilled life. Oh I mean to posit, a disrespectful man has no reason of having a fulfilled life. nisai take note. As usual a weakling has no language than bullying....Lmao. Igbà ló dé and not ìgbà ló dé(loosely translated as new era,new time-modern) . Kikiki are you not the one posting false as fact. Furthermore, History of Yoruba from Ileife is not the same as from outsiders a .So, who is the didirin ? Surely, it is the pained one. Are you also afraid of diacritic signs on dìdìrìn? A failed being you are. ![]() Why did you not answer the question you were asked ? Instead, you gave excuse and fled like the one who dreaded failure. Hateitatyour own peril , lIeife was never situated in landlocked Niger Benue confluence because the water never face Atlantic Ocean. Do you actually want to know where Phonecians-cum Hebrew lived in West Africa? Consult me and let me refer books to you. So that your knowledge can be further be enhanced with information. Mind you, I have never stray from my field . Instead, I will make reference to authored books with modern time ( igbà ọ̀tun). |
TAO11:Lmao . Yoruba from Niger-Benue confluence ....See mountainous lies from your own school of thought . So, your own Iléifẹ̀ is a land lock Niger-Benue confluence turned "A land standing in front of the sea", which your most revered Professor Banji Akintoye mentioned to you. Well, Coptic language had been identified as cognate related to Yorubas, even more closer than with Ibos. That alone is a fact,which you cannot deny. So,if you chose to be an Igala or from Niger-Benue confluence , then so shall it be. But do us a great favour, kindly grouped Yoruba ancestors with civilzed people of that era where robe was worn in the past.......And not naked people. |
TAO11:nisai, see your friend that you expect me sheat sword against ? A defeated being who only pointed to Idah? Niger Benue Confluence as a place of Yoruba's origin! One who out of robust or superior information begins to use vulgar words against the accuse. Lmao ![]() Tell him to go Ileife and tell them that their language developed from Niger Benue confluence whose land is landlocked. Both Ryder and Bowen, who came before wrote before Professor Akintoye were the ones who were informed of the Ileife standing infront of the sea or facing the sea. The Ileife proper account states, "Ileife of Yoruba in Nigeria is the place where it was, from the begining even during flood era." How can you TAO12 be this gullible ? O má ṣé o . Who exactly were the eyewitnesses who saw the land of Ilẹ́ifẹ̀ or Iléifẹ̀ at IDAH or Niger Benue Confluence standing on a landlocked water or lagoon? What Temple of Yoruba or oldest Virtual Art was situated at IDAH of Igala~Niger Benue Confluence that made it home of ancient Yorubas original place of origin ? None thatI know of or any Yoruba historical angle. |
absoluteSuccess:Sir, he rarely knows that there is igbà as "time." in Yoruba language. This is the reason he quickly adopted ìgbàlódé from his friend's view. While, he also blundered while writing Igbàlódé wrongly. Infact, I have informed him more on Oshimowe's account of usage of Yoruba's word aba as Yorubas which has been denied by both of them or three of them. May be they should go force it down South East Yoruba that their language's dialects is not the oldest in Yoruba land,which Ondo Ekimogun belongs. Cheers |
macof:Well, I support Igbà ló dé than ì gbà ló dé. The former is apt than the latter. Afterall there is no dialect that is more standard than the order. The only thing eminent is that some dialects are older than the other. Have you read the history of Ondo Town's Kingdom from the present Ọbà Osimowe ? The point here is for you and others accept the fact that Yoruba language is wider than imagined. In the account, father is called aba in Ondo Town's account abà-abá. If you havent,then ask for the link, which I will gladly share with you. Guess what ? Aba or Abba is known as Aramaic -Hebrew word which was and still used by Christianity, Judaism ,which means, "Father"; religious superior; in the Syriac, Coptic, and Ethiopic churches, a title given to the bishops, and by the bishops to the patriarch; a title given to Jewish scholars in the Talmudic period. The questions that need bother you people ought be, did Yoruba loaned all her language from foreigners ? Did Yoruba actually lived in a land outside West Africa in antiquity ? Anyway, time will tell. Meanwhile I hold firmly to the fact, igbàlódé is superior to ìgbàlódé. |
absoluteSuccess:Yes I am care free at times knowingly and unknowingly most times. Do you not know what Ọ̀rúnmìẸ̀làà did just to know who are or his friend(s) among the irúnmọlẹ̀ ? Bàbá fi ajulọ han wọn ni o . Here you find people picking on irrelevant things as a point so as to feel fulfilled. So,I do not care most times about it since it'is not my book at stake but for the point you raised here, I appreciate your cocern. Thanks |
TAO11:Tell me, where did Professor Banji Akintoye got his information on Yoruba's ethnic group's origin from the sea forefront ? Was it Bowen before Ryder or Bowen before Ryder? You make me laugh. Contrary to your view, I have never being mad at any one not even you on an issue which I know has no basis for superiority complex! Or are you competing with me ? If you actually want to compete with me, then ,you must be a joke. Plainly, Ryder's claim was from Ifaodu corpus account which were narrated to Bowen . So,go learn deep Yoruba history from Ifáodù to know what Ori worship has in relationship with christianity.Ryder quoted T. J. Bowen's "Adventures and Missionary Labours in Several Countries in the Interior of Africa (Charleston, 1857), pp.265" "Forty years earlier the missionary Bowen was told of an Ife standing upon 'the sea'." Does the standing on sea mean Niger -Benue confluence ? Niger- Confluence is landlocked and has no access to sea. Perhaps, you failed to realise, ship cannot berth overthere. Grow up and learn farther than you know. |
absoluteSuccess:Quite a load in here. Yes, I am aware of Neanderthal history but slightly differs from the view you shared. Reason being that virtually historical perspective, human evolution took place in around the era some ancient Yorubas were alive. And there was an account that emphasise of an apeman who was birthed by Ape and a female human, according to fairytales talked about by the Yorubas which science delved into and claim evolution of man. Meanwhile, the ancient Yorubas still acknowledged human beings who were giants or aptly taller humanoid. This also has been speculated and research work has also invented the dna for these people. So, if I make reference to Neanderthal, is because, it remains a case study which supports Yoruba's act of immigrating from somewhere to many places before arrival in present day Nigeria. This is my view. While on the Oyos, I do not have anything against her strength because through her Yorubas became renowned name in West Africa . But linguistically,she is highly younger and has been the most spoken by all. |
macof:Lol.I know what I posted earlier. But what does Igbá, the calabash mean if not roundness ? Interpret it. |
absoluteSuccess: You are baaaad man! I have read it through. Unfortunately Baba Akinbanji can not see his book the way some people over emphasis on the book because, present information speaks differently.Infact, I do not know reason, Yoruba authors fail to visit Ileife and make enquiry on the history of Yorubas from within Ileife, which all of us belonged to one clan or the other. Anyway, Professor Toye Akinbanji as today, will never over emphasise his position of 2010. Infact if he has the grace, he would broaden the place of the origin of Yorubas beyond Nigeria because of Neanderthal origin. Contrary to these great men of our time, Ifaodu says in Odù Osa Ofun, "Ifá ṣé awo dé apá kan Òkun(atlantic) ati iláméjì Ọ̀sa (lagoon).".............. ẹ mi alagẹmọ ki nlọ apá òkun iláji ọ̀sa Ki oni òkun oni ọ̀sa kò lé mu mi si ọhun Ara ilé ẹ má jó mọ́ Ara ileọ́é ẹ má yọ́ mọ́ Oni òkun oni ọ̀sa kò lé mualagẹmọ lonii ó mo ṣé tan mó lọ.... This Ifaodu corpus counter Niger Benue postulation of Yorubas origin. Even on linguistic comparison,South East Yoruba dialects are older than others which also counter the written books which did not cover the entirety of Yoruba history as thoroughly as it ought be. Probaibility isthat Professor Akintoye does not admire Ifaodu or he does not see IT as a storage facility of Yorubas, but unfortunate because Ifaodu stores both Christianity and Islam in HIM. As today, Yoruba ethnic group does not have the oldest gene in Africa. Infact , more than six ethnic groups have older bones than Yorubas. . While these people of ours are crying blue murder, fact kept coming to null their theories. |
macof:How ignorant can a man be if he thinks he knows more than others ? This is the school both of you belonged. May be it is high time, you need be a bit adventurous in nature to know, that there are millions of people who know more than you. Well,no one lacked the ability to know ,even if such child or man is terribly forgetful. Loo and behold oogùn ìṣọye (ì-sọ-yé), àsọyé (à-sọ-yé) is a way out for you. When you refuse to study, information elude you. What exactly do you know about Yoruba's sànmáni ? Below screenshot shut you up. Beside, modern time, is not same as time ,or even era, season though interwoven. Igbà is 100% correct
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absoluteSuccess:Ọmọ Ọ̀rúnmìẹ̀àà njẹ́ o o tí á bá pèrí akọni á fi idà láa'lẹ̀ gaara Seriously , I am not interested in dealing with people who accept identity of Ileife yet sees below facts as the source of their findings. Sometimes, I wonder if people went to university to become zoombies or to be openminded to doing research so as to do better than their predecessors. I just wonder! My quest is to saliently give out information based on a lighter mood and not engage anyone as it seems. At the right time, the brainwashed will know who is the king of animal between a witch induced lion, the Carnivorous which is of a cat family and Elephant, the Herbivorous,who taught compression of power abuse and made man know some herb whose strength can hardly be matched with eight lions or lioness in contest Oops, lioness is even bigger than lions. Ifaodu teaching corpus told Yorubas... "Àgba ni tó orò nlọ ọbà ni tó éhín erin nfọn" I sight you sire. |
nisai:I won't go further again. However, too many errors in his/her information .Good lord! I hardly make comment on it, since I know he/she knows not beyond his/her limit. Rather than waste y time, I move on. ![]() If for some reason, I am referred as Ibri,or bree which was a name corrupted as Yoruba's ancestor name as far as I am concerned. Furthermore,the name remains as the name identified in Buba Ahmed 1615 account, which justify my view am justified. Afterall , the word is not Yoruba but eerb(Yrb-Yarb)which is also the reverse of bry or Ibri. Do I need teach people who find it hard for Yoruba to Neanderthals among over 50 ethnic groups in West Africa? Oh , some people claims, it is over 200 ethnic groups in West Africa. While minute 3 other realated sub Yoruba groups are mentioned and Ibos left out. Seriously, as usual, I expect someone will quote me because Hebrew is threat to their own ancestry but not mine. Here is the Yarb or Yrb interpretation of the root word according to islamic or ARABIC'S alphabets. Arabic's Yaa and ancient Hebrew's Yod are interpreted as ee in English's. The Hebrew also interchange it with Y at times. Since certain rules are followed. Arabic's Raa(R) which is Hebrew's resh that is rii(ree) Arabic's Baa(B) which is Hebrew's Bet that is bee sound in English. Thus,Yoruba as a name is a wrongly interpreted name of the people in Western -North central partof Nigeria that spread as far as Gambia region. Seriously, fact lighten up where false thrive and the latter disappears into the thin air. Sheath the sword, is what I did long time ago because I am a son of my ancestors who protect my people ,even when there some or linear flaws that I had done and still doing. Do have a great day. Cheers |
TAO11:For every information, begins with a leeway.Unfortunately, you perceived not so I show you a clue on your flawed information, you hold so much. The point you still goofed again and again !!! Plainly, I only point to the direction you have erred on some of your best authored books, which you reference such as Professor Banji Akintoye, who also relied on Ryder etc claiming Niger Benue confluence as the origin of Yoruba people. Apart from this, you also have erred on diacritics , over and over again even the "igba" you accented still has a flaw. Seek it out. My question rhetoric symbolise the purpse of igbá (calabash) to Yórúbà people in cosmology and not igbà,whichyoupostedwronglyas ìgbà ( aimless word with no acurate meaning ) which was a coined word from 19th century. Asíkò-àsekò,akókò,saa,wàkátì,idáyi-idáhi,diwọ̀n, igbà ,which is a newer term that you so believed is rare or not used in older Yoruba dialects Perhaps, your linear understanding which tilt towards Oyo will naturally wane. Most often Baba comes to your linear mind Bàbá. Rather Bábá- which simply shows in its root, ẹni á "Bá" lá á bá ni Bábá.(Ifaodu corpus) Seriously, I chose not dent your information because,too many errors you posted as a result of stagnancy ofin formation you can access.I wish you really really. Anyway, enjoy yourself. |
TAO11:I do not understand ![]() "My bad ?" or Ileife origin of Ogiso dynasty ? |
nisai:Some are highly stubborn and I do not discourage people from having their filled day. Except vaguar word comes in my direction. But right now, I do not engage out reason.. Meanwhile, Latest Report by scientists on Neanderthal in August-September 2021, claims for everyone with Neanderthal dna is trait of patrilineal ancestry. Clearly, this statement means that Yoruba were not of Africa . Very shocking |
TAO11:My bad? You try. What more can I posit? What do you have on Bini because the ancestor of ogiso dynasty actually came from the Ileife,South West Nigeria. |
TAO11:Lol ¿¿¿¿¿ ? To be angry over what ? Self expression is acceptable in all ramifications. So, be free to posit your view. But corrected me has nothing to do with erros. Like I had mentioned earlier, this platform is not a closed interactive class between lecturers and students. ìbínu kò dá nkan kan àgbà tí ó ni súurú ohun gbogbo l'óni súurú bàbá iwa |
TAO11:Lol. I do not hate to be corrected! How many errors have you made? I chose not to correct you because I flow. Meanwhile it is not about correction rather empty boasting on your path. However,do not think my above statement degrade honesty? Not at all. Once a written account say so, you guys adopt such as true. Tell me, are you aware 13 settlements are the settlement of the ancient Ileife? Be honest. Are you aware awori is not the oldest Yoruba.clan in Lagos state ? There are mysteries beyond you and I. So, be careful. |
TAO11:Lol ! Okay . Teach me. What do I know ? But mó mọ̀ pè ọ̀rúnmìẹ̀làà ló bá lori gbogbo ayé ati ọ̀rún. |
Proudnigerian60:Lol. But a big liar you're . What about Neanderthal DNA that doesnt exist majority of west Africa? Let this blow your mind.The August-September 2021 released information on DNA in the Neanderdal has been found in the world to be a father to son hereditary transmitted ![]() |
TAO11:Mr. Teacher, please ride on but do not teach nonsense. in, which you need correct your own friend by removing the speck in his own eyes aswell as yours. Meanwhile, let me allow enjoy yourself but note, it that there are information you think know but they elude you. Delusion is a mirage,until it wanes. |
absoluteSuccess:I agree with you. Saving myself of the stress is worth it. Unfortunately, our friends think Yoruba language is entrenched in Oyo's youngest dialect. This is the reason, sometimes I wonder why do we have to tilt against researchable issue. Today, we have seen false information about the settlement of Yoruba people of ileife, where the identified all of us from our homes at ileife. Although, I know my own lineage to the core, as a result of the way it is held by my family,even if I only emphasise it here online for just identity sake. Funny as it seems, these my people are even humble to really point to them with such interesting family background at ileife. Take for instance, Awùjálẹ̀'s ancestry is of Obalufon and not Odua clan even if we are all interwoven amongst ourselve through and through. Even Olúiwó patrilineal line also is of ọbàlúfọn's side. There are information that were falsely stated by outsiders of Ileife, which dent Yoruba's history. Even the 1615AD account of Baba Ahmed does not fit in For us as "Yórúbá." Infact, there are too many errors. Even Oranmiyan had children that are older than the ones mentioned on tabloid. Anyway, time will tell. I salute you sire, Cheers |
absoluteSuccess:Sire I did and you ? |
macof:Oh yes! You are even 200% correct . But you are even more guilty as a teacher .This is the greatest joy I have......Laughing hilariously . Tell me, who among you here has not blundered on diacritic in this platform ? My stance has always being, that this is not a written thesis. So, why bother when you also fall victim of such. Therefore, teach yourself or be taught by others because some Yoruba word falls under different diacritics and still with same meaning Do self appraisal, my dear. For more informtion does your own accent falls within : 1. Yoruba language written in school ? 2. Yoruba language spoken in cities ? 3. Yoruba language spoken as hinterland dialect ? To buttress my point, which among the word for "I" in your own dialect ? mọ́ mó me-mi mé Furthermore, how do you explain things to people when you can't remove the speck in your own eyes first before helping others. Instead you complain of specks on other people's eyes? Hypo.....te. Let me clearly posit here that , whether there is sense in it or not, rather the message has been passed. Albeit the following is for you ![]() "ìgbàlódé"- Correct Olu: ọrọ̀ rẹ dabi ẹní ti kò fẹ "jẹwọ́ ọbun rẹ.....(not perfect, but better because I ommitted some diacritics) Macof:ọ̀rọ̀ rẹ dàbí ẹni tí kò fẹ́ "jẹ́wọ́ ọ̀bùn rẹ̀ (worse) ọ̀rọ̀ ×: ọ̀bùn × rẹ̀× Yoruba language taught in school: " ọ̀rọ rẹ dàbí ẹni ti kò fẹ́ jẹ́wọ́ ọ̀bun rẹ." |
absoluteSuccess:This is a serious one. An ancient name though. |
absoluteSuccess:Hey , good day to you. |
absoluteSuccess:Yes ooo bro. Someone who once argued over trivial issue wth no sense in it. One who claimed iṣẹṣẹ̀ yet no single evidence of it showing at all.Baba a liar is a liar, no matter how he rebrands himself. Abeg no time jaare. I am focus on other issue. I remain my humble self, Olú |
macof: Is that the reason you quoted me ? Tell me, have I not posted your wrong diacritic signs ? Even with screenshot ! ọrọ̀ rẹ dabi ẹni ti kò fẹ "jẹwọ́ ọbun rẹ....."Meanwhile Igbálodé(modern time) and not your[i]igbàlòde[/i] which is in kò(not-negative) The á is not a backward but a forward-leaning acute accent ( ́ ) generally indicates a stressed syllable or raised pitch in ig-balode. Such as "bá"( to bend, bent) Note: This is not authored book but a platform ![]() Whatever you were taught,seem a bit awkward. Anyway,I don't have much time to trivilise issue with you but seriously, I hope you're abreast with Yoruba history , starting from your own home town. I mean your king's history . Reason being, that you are not with historical perspective . Seriously, Yoruba groups bone is not even among (7) oldest ethnic group in Africa. So,know it now that Yoruba are even new bloodline in Africa. Funny, ifaodu stated category about atlantic and Lagoon...... These showed ifaodu was not begun in a place called Nigeria. Even A. F. C. Ryder acknowledged it when he did field work on it on a place where sea is not far from ancient Ileife. And he wrongly pointed to Niger Benue confluence that do not have base for ship to berth talkless to even anchor. |
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