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macof:
A simple summary of what a con and a fraud is.
1. You have admitted that you lack the education and qualifications.. That's not something you can lie about for too long anyway but to call education useless exposes you as a con.

2. You have exposed yourself as someone who only wants to listen to people whose "conclusions" are much like your corny word plays with no basis. You are not open to discussions and contra arguments just as you always cry over being proven wrong or being questioned. Ultimately even scholars with years of experience and contribution backed by facts are nuisance to you once they don't support your dreams of yoruba being Hebrew. You are not serious
When you have gotten to the level of self aggrandizement that you think you can challenge institutions and people who have put in rigorous work on the topic of the west African past. You alone and those who Band together with you are the ordained historians and leaders of the Yoruba everyone else is wrong, how dare they question you eeee oo
That is some crazy shiit

3. You actually don't comprehend anything. you are throwing the term "green sahara" in mockery and in such a way that shows you don't even understand what that actually means. Goes to show that you do not even allow yourself to process any information that doesn't say Yoruba are Hebrews. You are so obsessed with Hebrew people who you were indoctrinated into worshipping in church
You also obviously don't know what Bantu means. And I have never said Yoruba are a Bantu admixture (you morons keep saying this I wonder where you got that from. Imagine 3/4 people misleading themselves over the same single point )

4. Please I encourage discussion on yoruba history but don't talk trash, better you stay quiet if you can't handle being questioned or shown your mistake where you make one

5. You yourself have declared your Hebrew you are no longer Yoruba. Go back to your country in Israel
I am Yoruba, West African and proud

Olodo with pseudo Professorship, , I am Yoruba from ‘West Africa' . Lol. There was no West Africa from time immemorial! It is a term coined by the West.

2. The Ibri/Abri/abari has pictographs which mentioned them in their original classic written language. The language was crude because it developmental stage of written form of language,which begun from cuneiforms through Sumerian culture.

2b. Persian have account of O'Juda ; Hebrew

2c. Babylonian account affirmed to the identity of Hebrew

2d Greek have account of documentation of Hebrew people ,which became Bible

2d. Egyptian pictograph have account of Hebrew and their complexion.

2e. Show us,where the might of Yoruba were written in small Bantu set up in West Africa. I wait patiently.




3.You have posts you mentioned Ibos and Yoruba are of the same origin,which is Niger Congo. But today, you are working tireslessly to reject your view ,simply because as untrained in Semitic language as your masters, you're clueless.

3b. You have claimed Egyptian origin of Yoruba ancestors but you failed like your masters because you have no clue to the possibility of as such on it.


3c. Yoruba's ifaodu corpus rejected this hypothesis of being associated to only group in West Africa because, the ifaodu corpus affirm,that Yoruba( anciently with a different name) fathered mankind. Infact, there was also an ape (figurative expression)being in ifaodu corpus, who raped a woman that his descendant became a form of man....


What was the first male name and female in Yoruba's history ? Yoruba Iba oooo Imo/Umoh

Aji gbe ure ko lo ruko ti a npe Ifaodu

Aji gbe ure ko lo ruko ti a npe ogboni

Aji gbe ure ko lo ruko ti a npe orunmiela

Daku Dabo eta oko ko un je ra won ni iyan, eyin me te eta , e gbe ure ko mi raye raye. Ase

Note:Go and study to be conversant with Yoruba people's history. Have you not seen ,wherever Yoruba are found, they always classified themselves as a unique people, even if they are small in population. They don't attach themselves spiritually to people, it's reversal in every way.

macof:
You are an uneducated ignorant mofo and you know it stop hyping your failed life it's so distasteful

You have no skill in linguistics or palaeography or any form of historical irrelevant discipline, I have exposed your so called cognates to be random, forced and delusional
It is your kind that would say Alaba and Alabama are cognates if you thought it would help you in your claims of Hebrew-Yoruba connection

A so called expert who doesn't make use of etymology
You see two words that look similar and boom, you call them cognates just like that
If only a semi-illiterate like yourself were so qualified what do we need studies and academic qualifications for

PS. @bold I know you have nothing but I will still ask..
Provide the names, books and pages were you got that from

Seems you feel bitter about what I have done to exposing your ignorance . Instead you result to diversionary pattern but wait up! Alaba and Alabama are not the only semblance which can be said to be cognate because Yoruba's Die and English's Die are also cognate . Glorified olodo to the brim . It is a pity your sponsor at the tertiary institution did wasted his/her financial support.

There is no iota of doubt that I am enjoying your so called sly lifestyle online because you're a weakling and a fish brain. So, when you are defenceless, you pick up irrelevancy and make it relevant,when in reality, it is valueless. Perhaps, you think, I can fall cheap for trick to showcase methodology for a work of mine in the offing? Intellectual theft at peak from the fake scholar macof

As far as I can see it, you will disappear in the same manner, others did because shame caught with them , which await you. A pseudo scholar thought, I can't read paleograph simply because I give you attention on this platform. Paradventure, you dont know, I can read classic Semitic language of, so, there is no iota of doubt in my heart about the research work in care, which will be ready in due season. My question : How do you want to promote Yoruba's heritage? Ponder over it because one who stand in for a course must have answer for one believes both traditionally and academically. Obviously, fish brain as yours lack the pedigree.

Nevertheless, your action can be predicted easily, over regurgitation of questions; provide this,provide that as you have never for once stopped doing,since you failed to realised, untrained personality ask such questions in an open forum .I am not trained in linguistic nor have knowledge on paleography, says the soothsayer macof to score a cheap point but as far as I am concern, when I am done with my research work, you will read what academic qualification I possessed before I can write book on Yoruba language which is of semitic origin through migration . And I will expect you to criticise my personality publicly at that point in history if you can.


Note: Go and read books and be closer to awo Ifaodu to learn more about Isese.

Vortex369:
Yoruba Chiefs love selling Ancestral Land.

Their Chiefs do not like working at all. Seems Kingship for them is always about selling land and fuccking pusssies with the money.

Just my honest observation. No tribalism at all.

If you understand the set up of Oba in classic times when they had power,you will realise a king is all in all in ancient set up. And no Oba will ever sell ancestral lands but places where can be called towns , a form of cosmopolitan set up.

eby001:
Lol, you didn't mention me on this. So I was right all along. I never want to mention tsetse fly ish, thinking you'll figure it out . It not a weakness to admit you're wrong all along. The name 'esin' is right all along

Pls what is the Yoruba name of zebra?

English name:Zebra

Yoruba name: ketekete abila

macof:
If you have anything to say about my comments on ebora go to that thread and point them out.
Use your head and stop requiring me to tell you the proper things to do

Not when you run out of things to say you start ranting stupidly

How can I run out of idea because of a lazy you who practically knows nothing about what my research is all about. If you think ancient language is easy,then kindly pick up interest in it and go study it. Anyway, my intention is to focus on work, though using this platform to expose people like to the might of Yoruba ancestors from time immemorial Professor, I am not like you that posts incoherent information online for cheap popularity. Perhaps, you didn't read much on African history during your hay days at the tertiary institution because authors on Yoruba history claimed Yoruba ancestors arrived here in Caravans.

Therefore, stop misleading people by claiming Yoruba had no migrants status. Besides, these overrated knowledge of yours is the reason that you lacked being studious.

1.Do you know that oka baba is also a cognate in Classic Hebrew ? Assignment

2. Do you even know some beads found in IleIfe have some that were of 12th-14th century of India origin in Asia?

Perhaps, the Yoruba ancestors teleported themselves around 12th-14th to bring it to Yoruba land in Nigeria.Abeg, go study macof.

Obalufon:
esu is not ebora ebora is unseen force or being, spirit

I know that precisely. I am making mockery of macof who enjoys posting trash online, as if he knows anything. A man who practically knows little but claim he knows a lot about Yoruba people's history. macof, the Professor !

macof:

He would be so happy to finally be in his ancestral land

Sometimes, I wonder if you're actually read ,with your dubious information. macof says, ‘Going by my limited knowledge , I would say Ebora is a generic term for all "unseen beings". See me see professor .
So, macof do have limited knowledge?

macof says, ‘I have heard Esu refered to as an Ebora. Yemoja as an Ebora...and when these two can be Ebora then all Orisha in certain context are Ebora'.

Ebi Ora,Abi Ora,E bo O ra; O Ra mfe, Ora, Ra :- remain self explanatory. Go to school?You refused because you claim, you are all in all. Perhaps, you need to know the complexity of Orunmiela to understand who Eshu is. Orumiela is Ora. Go study. ‘Read Myth of IFe'.

kayfra:
That is one crazy dude

He needs to be locked up in Israel for real

Bantu blood, I salute you

MusicSots:
So I shouldn't believe the orishas are connected to some planets? And is any god related fully with the sun? Some said Orunmila is?

Yoruba religion of Ifaodu is well established in cosmology. And Please don't associate Yoruba Orissa with planetary because, Yoruba ancestors were mortal men and didn't worship planet though connect to God through astral power, which is very expatiated in Ifaodu corpus. The 16 Odus have purpose it is being chanted. Orunmiela or Ela dwell in conduit,from which this creator made sun in Yoruba's ese Ifaodu Ogunda and remains the light from which the earth access life, day and separated it from darkness. So, if people try to mix up Orunmila with plain sun, then it is a dead mistake. Infact , Obara Meji refer to Orunmiela as staying in a tree called Oriri Yoruba in which, he called out 16 stones and turn it to 16 cowries for Osun to use it for her divination, which show that anyone who isn't in good term with Yoruba Ifaodu can't understand the complexity of Ela because this is likened to how woman was created out of man through Ela. And it is the authority of man that show that ordination of woman is by man through Ashe Erindilogun.

ednut1:
95% of them have all been killed from yoruba land. Shame. There is no tiger in africa so why would yoruba have a name for it

It is because, every animal that Yoruba have names for are coded in Ifaodu. So, don't be shocked if some animals appears in Yoruba's lexicons and not in Africa or in extinction. This is the uniqueness of Yoruba worldview through migration. Superhumans are Yoruba ancestors, which ie the reason, some are called Orishas

Konquest:
^^^^^^
^^^^^^
This is crazy and irresponsible! Akara is NOT an Ibo word
but of Yoruba origin. Akara is called Kosai in the Hausa
language.



Read more here:
==>https://www.gounesco.com/how-to-prepare-beans-cake-akara-or-kosai/
==>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akara


The female writer [Njideka Agbo] of this Guardian article of 18 January
2018 is peddling FALSEHOOD. She is a cut-and-paste person and a very
unprofessional journalist! I wonder why people like pilfering or falsifying
other people's histories just to make themselves feel good? I have always
insisted that some journalists are a DANGER to world history because
they just copy FAKE or vandalized Wikipedia entries without dues
diligence! Her article is even riddled with more historical errors
as well.


While not denying that "Eboes" were one of those tribes/ethnicities
taken to Jamaica from the AREA between Nigeria, Cameroon,
Gabon, etc from the former Bight of Biafra totalling
1,391,000 people based on the official information from the
Slave Trade Database from the 1700s.



Again majority of Ibos are NOT light in completion but dark brown
skinned.

I do know from my personal observations when I worked with a major
multinational oil and gas firm while also living in Port Harcourt,
Nigeria that some folks from the Umuahia axis can be light skinned,
but over 97% of Ibos are dark brown-skinned or have different shades
of brown skins from the 5 core Ibo-speaking states because I have
always paid attention to little details. The idea by some people
[who have not travelled widely or are unexposed] that most Ibos are
light is the most stupid thing to ever come out of Nigeria.
It is just a ridiculous stereotype since you will find Yorubas, Esan
Edos, Bini Edos, Idomas, Efiks, Ibibios, Annangs, Congolese,
Angolans, Taroks who are naturally light skinned and dark brown
as well.



The etymology or origin of the word AKARA is Yoruba.
Even in Brazil and several countries of the Diaspora.
Akara Ijesha is still eaten in Bahia, Brazil till today.
The Yorubas brought Akara to Brazil and it also spread
to other Caribbean countries where Yorubas were
deported to on slave schooners or ships in the
1700s and 1800s. It is a major fact that the Yoruba
are credited with the word Akara and they even introduced it
to Ghana because Yorubas of Nigeria, Benin, and Togo
engagesd in long-distance trading and have had business
dealings with Ghana since the days of the Oyo Empire
which extended to Togo.

Many Yoruba descendants still live in Ghana for over 200 years
now and many are Ghanain citizens.



PLEASE read the link here: https://www.196flavors.com/nigeria-akara/

The origin of the word acarajé is interesting. Yoruba people (an ethnic group of Nigeria and Benin) shout “acará -je” when they sell akaras on the roadsides. This can be translated to: “I have akara” or “come and eat akara”, and that is what the Baianas women who sell it typically shout.

In Bahia, acarajé is deep-fried in palm oil, also known as dendé oil, then sliced and served with various sides such as vatapá (dried shrimp paste), camarão (small sundried shrimp), pimenta (hot pepper sauce), caruru (okra stew) or salada.


But back to West Africa, where this snack was originally created. It is called akara by the Yoruba people of southwestern Nigeria, but also kosai by the Hausa people of Nigeria or also koose in Ghana where it is a popular breakfast dish.

Source: https://www.196flavors.com/nigeria-akara/




Last but not least, majority of those brought to Jamaica
were of Akan origins [Coromantees or Fante/Asante, etc]and
of Angola/Congo origins as well but Africans were brought
from 8 Regions of Africa including Mozambique and Madagascar.
Several Jamaicans have also taken Haplogroup and Autosomal
DNA tests from AfricanAncestry and AncestryDNA which reveal
that a lot Jamaicans are 100% Africans without white bloodlines
and they come from very diverse ethnic origins.


I hope this helps to clear up the misleading information
from that female journalist.

Cc:sesan85

No matter how you try to correct certain people, they will never yield because of mischievousness.


Cheers.

[quote author=simonfynboi post=86708927][/quote]You're not serious. There is a Yoruba village called Ileife in Trinidad and. Tobiago. you're

javaRookie:
Oh here we go again with the boasting and all.
Very soon they would say they own half of Jamaica or claim that Drake is from their tribe.

Check my siggy if you wish.

Every ethnic group has right to talk or write about their ancestors or relatives who are presently in South , North or central America or wherever they are located in the world.

So, I plead with you to ignore bitterness even if Ibos are in Jamaica or wherever they are. Besides, there are many other ethnic groups in Jamaica, so celebrate ibos or let their thread be.

MusicSots:
Happy Sunday sir. I read is yesterday on a site that Eshu is related to planet mercury and this is contrast my initial thought that is the manifestation of the sun. Please whats your take on this site?

Yoruba oral account and Ifaodu corpus, explain the personality of Eshu as part of the complexity of ela (Orunmiela). And if you consider the distance of Mercury to Sun is over 57+ millions kilometers according scientific research.


Therefore,you will realise that Yeshua/Eshuiwa/ Eshu, isn't the same as postulated that the identity of Eshu is Planet Mercury. The name Eshu is associated with power,which is the entrance name to Eledumare, in Yoruba traditional religion. For instance, one of the duty of eshu is protect e.g Eshu leyin Ibeji(defender/protector of twins). Another example is, Eshu oni bode orun/Eshu Oli bode orun(guard/entrance name before access to God). So I differ with such postulation as connecting Eshu to a planet that is not with any form of authority over life .

geosegun:
The new findings below sounds quite interesting to me. My thoughts, though vaguely, is saying some revelations are about to be made. Searches are narrowing down to West Africa now - the next will be South West Nigeria. and a final revelation close to IFE which may possibly will be the 'bomb'. ..and to say the group of people listed all have common ancestry to Yorubas and Ile Ife. This is truly coming home.

" A mysterious "ghost population" of now-extinct ancient human-like creatures may have interbred with early humans living in West Africa, scientists say.

Researchers suggest DNA from this group makes up between 2% and 19% of modern West Africans' genetic ancestry.

They believe the interbreeding occurred about 43,000 years ago.

Scientists found links to the Mende people of Sierra Leone, Yoruba as well as Esan people in Nigeria, plus other groups in western areas of The Gambia."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/science-environment-51508616

Now the knowledge of Ifa will now explode and made more acceptable in the world at large. There was ifa corpus that says, Dudu lagba, Funfun/pups ni aburo ( Black/Brown skin is the eldest while white/pink is the junior. The same Ifa states that expansion start from Ife. It may as well refer to Yoruba race alone or the entire world race? Only time will tell.

cc: @Olu317; @absolutesucess; @Obalufon; @macof; @nlposter; e t c...

I do agree slightly with this finding of yours which is credited to the researchers, Arun Durvasula and Sriram Sankararaman of the University of California, Los Angeles, published in the journal Science Advance, where they sequenced the genomes of people from four modern West African populations,which is seen as mysterious groups that interbred with Mende and Yoruba, because I know Yoruba did interbred with some Nok people at a point in time in history but 43,000 years ago of ghost population can't be connected to all Yoruba groups because, the Iwo Eleru excavation of fossil human does not support connection with Yoruba ancestors or modern Yorubas and it is less than 15,000± years ago.


Furthermore, interbreeding easily change the status of one's DNA, though oral account through Ifaodu have a lot of information that can be tapped for more explanation.So, it is interesting to affirm here that Yorubas are distinct people but fused together by Ifaodu religion which I conclude to be a Coptic Christianity. I have knowledge of classic semitic language of Hebrew and Coptic Christian that lived in both Near East and Egypt.

macof:
Another fool.

This is what you think of Africa? A continent of nothing better than mud hut illiterate villagers?
So you would rather look to the middle East for a history that is not your own because you don't know the Greatness within Africa?

You have failed to provide any evidence or results of any worthwhile research, I have continued to stand by sanity and made arguments based on evidence available. You are indeed foolish to say I don't study. I would like to know where your studies has taken you

You insult Africa with your foolish inferiority complex. Africans don't need to be middle eastern to feel good about themselves. You seek fantasy from me, but fantasy you can't get, I would rather give you history

Lol! As usual, the ignorant you have begun with a typical vulgar provocative term , yet you have not for once provided any sane historical account of Africans that proof Africa as the source of Subshara as the heart of Civilization . Gobekli Temple in Turkey is even older than Egyptian oldest Temple in Memphis . The Egyptians civilization in Memphis, was called, ‘Hwt-Ka-Ptah' ("Mansion of the Spirit of Ptah", before Greek pronunciation called the name Egypt after the conqueror's name , Aegyptos. So, what is the hullabaloo about Near East ?

Infact, Yoruba historians of high reputation have never outrightly claimed the place of origin of Yoruba in any indigenous place in Africa, except knowledge of IleIfe,which exist, only in Yoruba lexicon and not in any group in Africa but exist in Near East.So, and never threw away the possibility of Near East Origin because, what has been documented had oral influence in it through Ifaodu corpus. In fact, all of these historians have can't understand classic semitic pictographs or classic Hebrew language that has been established in present day as I have posited that there were a people called Odudua group with a distinct ideology and came with a leader, married the aborigine and imposed their authority and culture on the aboriginal negroid people whom they met and fused with them.

Therefore, there is no iota of doubt that you remained unstable and I will expose your lack of knowledge in Yoruba language, as I have promised you through your poor interpretation of the names of Yoruba ancestors which you can't decipher. Yet you posit here as a fraud does.

Here are the question you need answer as follow:

1. Have no knowledge of a Sumerian culture and foundation of cuneiform writing that begun in Mesopotamia before Egypt ?

2. Have you no knowledge that Classic Semitic writing is different to Egyptians when Phonecian and Hebrew alphabet existed side by side in Mesopotamia ?

3. Have you no knowledge that Phoenician and classic Hebrew alphabets parted ways slightly through migration and enslavement?

4. Have you no knowledge that Ora, is a name amongst even present day Israelis who can't even speak the classic Hebrew because it said to nonexistence anymore?

5. Have you no knowledge that skin disorder, food,weather were the factors that led to different human colour?

6. Have you no knowledge that no ethnic group used oru(n) , meaning sunlight as same is found in Near East's Semitic language's Or/ Ur, in Subsahara Africa.

7. Have you no knowledge that no group in West Africa had ever worn a faze cap as seen Ooni does as found in Near East during antiquity ?

8. Have you no knowledge that no West Africa group apart Yoruba's kings such as Ooni ever worn a head gear as the one being worn in antiquity in Egypt, Near East and beyond ?

9. Have you no knowledge that using birds feathers being attache to the Ooni's crown front view is only of Yoruba's and Near East's monarchy?

10.Have you no knowledge that Yoruba ethnic group is the most researched entity in Africa and the world because, their history is seen as unique and rich in culture ?

Note: I know you are dead intellectually to studying . And like I have inferred earlier, I will expose your fraud as the one who has no conversant knowledg with Yoruba language at all.
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Rossinky:
Thanks for the knowledge you're sharing bro. I wouldn't bother too much with maceof. He's been like this for a long time, and I've had my own battles with him. It's like reasoning with a brick wall. He doesn't want to hear anything about Africa beyond the 'mud hut illiterate villagers who did nothing' narrative. He doesn't study or research anything with regard to African history, least of all from African historians or sources. He isn't really worth your time. Just give us the info abeg.

Thanks so much for the advice and encouragement.

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bigfrancis21:
Yes I’ve met a few who can speak Igbo. Not too many of them but there are some who can.

Yes it is true because, some do speak.

bigfrancis21:
Yes I’ve met a few who can speak Igbo. Not too many of them but there are some who can.

Truthfully, there are Yoruba people who can actually speak Ibo language conveniently without problem simply because, some of were either born or lived their lives in the Southeast and at times, it is inquisitiveness to know that make them to learn it.

From historical perspective, Ashipa did not exist as a royal name that I can think of in whatsoever way because there are names that are of royalty in the ancient times. And these names, beads, are determinant factor when identifying royal lineage, priest's , noble's and commoners through established research work. So, I don't know how to afix Ashipa as the father of Ado because Ado is not commonly used amongst Yoruba Royalty but a seen as a chief. Ado~Ido~ me do as a name is associated with a place where one migrated to and stationed at that point in time,(b) a priestly name associated position of ifaodu.

Therefore Ashipa being closely related to chief is what I know and only if a chief married to a princess can the son or daughter be regarded as linked to royalty bloodline,which correspond to the fact that Ashipa is purely a chief of high rank though this title is more common among Northern Yoruba Kingdom's title usage. And I have also seen a closely related title among the classic Hebrew's Bible, where the name was used it in Bible in Gen 16 : 1, where it is reffered to Hagar ,who started out as the שפח (shipha) of Sarah (Genesis 16:1). Although, the title is interpreted by one of the publication of Biblical dictionaries as a woman worker of a high rank or was a position in between a chief housekeeper and personal assistant to the mistress. Invariably the name means one who does work for a king or priest's wife and family ( She ifo~ ishe ifo).

Secondly, I agree with the fact that Ashipaya or Ishipaya is also cognate with English language's Inspired, which showed either it is accidental cognate or true cognate. However, English language is massively with loaned words in her lexicons from Germanic and non Germanic lexicons,which are linked to Mediterranean, Latin, Roman,Greek's. So, I am not surprised at all ,seeing such connection either as true cognate of accidental's.Though Ishipaya or Ashipaya is slightly more akin to mean,‘revelation' or roo okan ; meditate to prophesying, to ponder over an issue in one' mind. Interestingly, this word is also found in Classic Hebrew,called Ruack ; Roo akh , which mean the following:

1c) spirit (as that which breathes quickly in animation or agitation)

1c1) spirit, animation, vivacity, vigour

1c2) courage

1c3) temper, anger

1c4) impatience, patience

1c5) spirit, disposition (as troubled, bitter, discontented)

1c6) disposition (of various kinds), unaccountable or uncontrollable impulse

1c7) prophetic spirit

1d) spirit (of the living, breathing being in man and animals)

1d1) as gift, preserved by God, God’s spirit, departing at death, disembodied being

1e) spirit (as seat of emotion)

1e1) desire

1e2) sorrow, trouble

1f) spirit

1f1) as seat or organ of mental acts

1f2) rarely of the will

1f3) as seat especially of moral character

1g) Spirit of God, the third person of the triune God, the Holy Spirit, coequal, coeternal with the Father and the Son

1g1) as inspiring ecstatic state of prophecy

1g2) as impelling prophet to utter instruction or warning

1g3) imparting warlike energy and executive and administrative power

1g4) as endowing men with various gifts

1g5) as energy of life

1g6) as manifest in the Shekinah glory

1g7) never referred to as a depersonalized force.


Thirdly, Yoruba's Ya,Yon or Yan in Yoruba language os cognates with English's Yawn , which is to release air out through the mouth out of fatigue(respire).Although, Ya,Yon or Yan do also mean different things at times if slight modification or diacritics are used on these words. For instance,Ya,( defecate. Another Example is Iya ( terrestrial power for dysfunctional and functional purpose) or feminine who gives birth or as a mother( Oyo and subclan term ),which was derived from Ye/Iye(survive,alive or birth new offspring).

Imisi is breath into,which also mean, Inspiration in English language. This word was coined to serve the vacuum of 18th century modern Christian oriented as far as I am concerned because imi is derived from mi ( breath, life, moves ,shakes). While si mean (is, to exist, increase etc). The point is that there coined words which are basically through inspiration even if such word is for descriptive purpose.


Fourthly ,Arabic interpretation of Khalifa shifts away from Yoruba's Alufa though Alufa in Yoruba land is also associated with royalty's throne, chiefly office; high rank office which has cognate in Classic Hebrew's Aluph(aloof) that, means, chief or Priest etc, and this falls within same cognate with Yoruba's Alufa,Olifa if one is familiar with the Biblical interpretation. Modern Christian which begun in 18th century or the white garment church can't be the yard stick to buttress our search for the classic ancient Yoruba ancestors and their language because there knowledge is fashioned after written Yoruba Bible.

Furthermore Abore is a bit not in the same as Ore/re(friend) but one who venerate Ore( form of thanksgiving through while sacrifices are offered etc to earth owner . Abore is a priestly title among initiates of Ore court in Yoruba land and the over all is an Oba; overseer of it , though some Obas don't acknowledge this festival because, they either are not connected to the lineage of this veneration or lost the ritual procedure through migration to another land. This title has nothing to do with friendliness.


Fifthly, ‘eji ogbe baba Ifa', is credited to being Orumila only and non because about Eledumare is about Orunmila. Therefore, his personality represent the spirit of God, wisdom, light, creator, spoken words, truth, destiny giver of destiny from eledumare to mankind or things with life in it ; ese ifaodu ogunda. Resurrection, safety, preservation of life in ,nese ifaodu oyeku etc.Orunmila is all in all in ‘Ela'.


Note: As far as I am concerned, Idu or Igodomigodo aren't Yoruba people even if there are about 1000± years intermarriages with them in the same way Yoruba married Hausa, Fulani,Tapa, Egun(Gu), Akpoto people ~ who were Igala partly ancestors. There many people who are linked to Yoruba but they remained a distinct people because, their languages were subjugated to a lingua franca of ifaodu's language which is Yoruba's.The point here is that many don't have Oriki~ genealogy link knowledge except the ones who are linked to Yoruba bloodline either patrilineal or matrilineal lineage and believes in Yoruba form of worship and tradition.

googi:
Poor me, what do I know.

I have always thought akata is much smaller than jackal.

I see jackal as a pack of wild dogs.

Don't blame it on yourself Sir because it is not easy knowing the names of all animals in Yoruba language. After all, Nigeria's lingua franca is English language. Therefore cheer up.

macof:
You are a damned lunatic so I don't expect you to display any sense.
There's nothing wrong with that comment you just want to throw jab.. Going through my posts looking for ways to attack because you are a sore loser still angry that I challenge your madness of calling yorubas Hebrews

Am I a sore loser ? Lol . So,it pained you to complain bitterly over messy posts that are numerous, but I am sure you fail to realise that, there are many things you dont know which make you human and imperfect. Therefore, address issue and stop ranting like one who lacks moral upbringing.

Interestingly, there is none you have met here that you've not used vulgar words on , NL. And I am not angry at all because untrained is untrained but to show that you claimed to love Yoruba culture and people but not conversant with certain reality that's beyond your comprehension.

Note: I will address the meaning of the following on the right platform.

1.Ebora,

2. Imole/Umole

3. Iwin

absoluteSuccess:
@Olu

I recently found out something curious bro, I believe we are familiar with 'apocalypse' as revelation, this is given as ifihan or ishipaya in Yoruba.

Somehow, ishipaya sounds very similar to inspire, how that came to be beats me, but the word came through the analysis on Ashipa. It's not a name but an ancient title.

My brother, the validity of the Yoruba word as secret to Yoruba history is yielding unintended results as it's often been here. Carefully consider the intriguing wordplay in the following:

Ashipa, Ashipaya, Inspired, Ayah (quranic sura revelation). Ya is to yawn in Yoruba, to release air on another person is to "yah sini lara". This is imisi in contemporary Yoruba.

This is what "inspired" literally means. To breath upon another, as God breath to inspire His prophets of old.

Unknown to us, our fathers of old have had inspired experience in their early history. That left an indelible mark on the Yoruba tradition. We are not privy of this.

Ashipa is the father of Ado, he is meant to be a man 'inspired'. The one for that kind of description in Yoruba, pantheon you will agree with me is Orunmila, the patron of Ifa oracle.

Based on the fact that it is said "eji ogbe baba Ifa", then this is proof that the father of Ado had words on marble, and therefore an inspired man, an Ewi (The Say) of Ado.

Now "Ashipa" is the English source for "the inspired". This is like confirming the identity of the father of Ado as one who opened a path of revelation to inspire.

Shipaya is 'revelation', or to 'inspire', as is the suffix 'Aya' to the Arabs. More like it also, is the term Alefa, (alfathia), which have affinities with Arabic.

I always have the feeling that the word Alefa possibly derived from Arabic and was loaned by the Yoruba, thinking 'apere' to be more original. I just checked the meaning on Google.

Alefa in Arabic means friendly and hospitable. But Alefa in Yoruba means 'throne'. So where is the similarities?

The exchange of idea is such that Alefa in Arabic is pertinent with Yoruba's Alufa, where Alefa means 'friendly'. So what does 'friendly' means in Yoruba? Abore, that's what it means.

But given a careful look, an Alufa is a teacher, 'ab'ore' is an hospitable fellow who has the charms to make friends. So goes the saying: omo onife abure, omo adade owo remo'.

The meaning of this is that 'one who showed love will make friends'. Why did this turn out in the pynageric saying of Ile-Ife? It's in what the word of the place name roughly sounds like: lf.

Abure is akin to Abore, or Alore- which is white garment church for the priest. a friend, a priest: a friendly priest. Alufa, Alefa.

So that said, the interpretation into Yoruba of the Arabic sense of the word 'Alefa' survived as 'abore'. It is the indigenous word for priest in Yoruba, both Alore and Abore.

Alefa however is the retention of the idea of the original value of the word aleph or alpha that represent the term as royalty. It's match in Arabic is the caliphate, or khalifa precisely.

From the understanding derived from the Islamic meaning the word as successor, Alefa is to climb into succession after the departure of a penultimate leader. So, the word is in sync.

Happy Sunday bro.

I do agree with some but not with al although this is quite thought provoking. Pardon my late response which was due to circumstance beyond my power.

macof:
Going by my limited knowledge I would say Ebora is a generic term for all "unseen beings"
I have heard Esu refered to as an Ebora. Yemoja as an Ebora...and when these two can be Ebora then all Orisha in certain context are Ebora

Sidenote: in the Igala language, Ebo is the word for Diety...as the word "orisha" is absent in the language

Imole/Umale as a word appears to be a less ancient word than Ebora/Ebo..and refers particularly to spirits associated with natural elements e.g.. Imole Okun. Spirit of the ocean.

Iwin have a more anthropomorphic representation, they sometimes interact with humans in the forest. They may be spirits of the dead that still linger around

Oh my lord ,I can't believe these . So, you don't even know the true meaning of these three names and you claim to be an expert in Yoruba language's history? But, you suddenly addressed the etymologies with amateur approach. ‘ Ebora is Generic term indeed' .

macof:
@bold another comedy of the month

Coming from the person who wants to sell Yoruba identity to Hebrews by all means
Coming from one who suffers from such a huge inferiority complex that he must see himself as hebrew in order to feel self worth
Coming from one who aims to turn Yoruba history upside down and has no regard for Yoruba traditions and culture

What you call vulgar words I assume are words that agitate you .. But of course, any form of questioning would agitate you plus I give you advice that you don't want to be told
I will give you ọ̀rọ̀ as it as it is no mincing words to massage your ego. I don't need that
You are looking for who will not challenge you but compliment you. All this are schemes that you would not need to resort to had you educated yourself before deciding to dive into history.

Running around, anything to avoid the needful

Just wait, let's get the first things sorted out, your likes would be exposed and disgraced, all your cleric sponsors won't save you

Are you begging for audience? Well, let me state clearly that I don't run away from the following:

1. Question that has to do with ancient Yoruba as non Africans historically.

2. Any question that is within the context of Yoruba obscure Semitic origin

3. Any question that has to do with ideograms o

4. Any question that has do with the reality that Yoruba ancestors assimilated people whom were originally not part of them

5. Any question that has to do with me proofing that at every time Yoruba ancestors migrate, other cults or culture are easily assimilated into ancient Yoruba tradition.

Note:I post these information for whoever want to learn along with me. It is beauty to behold that Yoruba and their other kins are the pride of the whole world.

Lastly, English language seems to be your problem because, ‘betray' in the course of my statement is all about your poor non professional approach but a ’FRAUD' approach of yours . You're basically too poor intellectually to ask needful questions to be educated. I know classic Hebrew,know the interpretation via English language and my vast knowledge on Classic and modern Yoruba language.So, kindly help yourself by educating yourself to the brim.....

nlPoster:
It's a serious allegation though, to tell a Yoruba person they are not Yoruba.

That's like opening a big can of worms.

You are correct but the coverup of not separating the weed from the fruit is one of the major reason we have people amongst Yoruba that betray easily. Having opined this, I have never seen any one who claims to be Yoruba as non Yoruba but there is a limit to which, one use vulgar words, that such person will be seen by I as not being a Yoruba person.

In Yoruba adage, there is a word that's called ‘IWA' which when prefixed with Omo,it becomes a popularly known identity known as Omo Elu Iwa Bi( a child born of exceptional character without fault i.e born of God). So,when I stylishly use slight words to draw the uncultured man who at every instance damn people with negative statement then it is worth it to call him as non Yoruba,which was the reason, I asked him to Post is Oriki(panegyric) because he has being the one who is more Yoruba than everyone on this platform.

Note: If in doubt, kindly investigate his posts and see how many times he has used vulgar words on different monikers without tangible reasons, but simply because people's opinion differs from his or his school of thought.

kayfra:
Yorubas have zero Hebrew heritage. Enough of the bullshit

If seemingly, you are not comfortable with the ancient identity of the people who came as migrants with Ifaodu, then you have a choice to exit here.Else, show some evidence to proof your point and stop posting without any tangible things to learn from you.

However, let me specifically inform you there is nobody called Hebrew in the first place but anglicise name of the man's name called ; עֲבָרָה
and ; עִבְרִי , because he was one who accompanied people through place to place and mercenaries; a migrant,one from beyond, movement from one place to another.

Kindly go learn classic Hebrew's alphabet, even with an idea that has been postulated through absolutesuccess and stop engaging anyone who has tangible question to ask.

nlPoster:
@ olu317

The first picture you posted on this page is similar to the one known as the gatekeeper.


What features are you emphasizing and comparing to the Olokun art?

The outfit as you can see, is similar to the dressing in the other art showing the rulers.

The head is from Wunmonije compound of king's palace, Ife. The head is said to be one of the king's headwhich was dated to be between 12th-15th century A.D,although it has been said, that date is contentious because, the sculpture heads of kings are said to have been moved from place to place,which do affect the possible date of production.

It is pertinent to infer here that the full human size sculpture you claimed to be gatekeeper is a priest or a servant or a votary of Oreeluore (oreoluore), which was sculpture made from granite in Ore groove isn't a King as compared to the first I posted.

Kindly compare with this servant or priest found in Ore grove and the below screenshot Visual heads,so that you will understand the hypothesis been postulated here.

nlPoster:
The problem I'm having here is this careful distinction between who is Yoruba and who is not "properly " Yoruba.

Too subjective, explain better.

For those you say are Yoruba but not authentic, what are the parameters used for this conclusion?

Yoruba is Yoruba either light skin Caucasians or darker Skin Yoruba people although the foundational Yoruba ancestors through the Artistic heads in Ileife show there is a Sphinx kind of people; basically with facial look seen amongst the exact type of the classic Egyptians and the others who are Semitic groups. Sincerely, I have posted some of the unique people who arent pure Africans, through their facial look,such as with nosal, lips etc.

It is important to emphasis here that this has nothing to do with pride over one's ancestry but to affirmed that through intermarriages a unique kind of mindsets among people evolved. Below is a pure Sphinx man sculpture that was found in Ore grove. This man is said to be a servant or priest and he doesn't match the actual look of the kind of the Visual heads found in other places.

Obalufon:
you know nothing Mr man Africa is diverse continent .. you need to have DNA test on people from borno and chad region you will be surprised of the ancestry lineage that will come out ...your problem is your brain has been programmed to believe in savage naked Africans living in jungles .. we have the aborigine African those are the one that never had a clothing culture or organised society and religion, ...Yoruba religion never reflect our present location ..knowledge of sea and some elements that are not found in this region , Religion is created from understand of environment and its unseen forces to control the material world .

Stop wasting your time on that fellow because he will insist you need to furnish him with more information via Oral account via ese ifa. Baba, tell him to begin the quest for knowledge of Ifaodu..