₦airaland Forum

Onijagidijagan:
You people argue so blindly, sometimes required to be flogged 25 strokes before getting wisdom.

Have u ever read d history of Oba of Benin? the first king that brought Oba to Benin is from Ife.

And Ife was his ancestral home. Don't be impress with d ibos on nairaland giving you cheap likes you don't warrant.

All Obas in Nigeria and beyond migrated from IFE.

Furthermore, Oranmiyan reigned as Ooni at ILE IFE and was buried at ILE IFE. Where else would but befit Oba Bini to visit? ILE IFE with a radiant lordship and kingly title word known as Oba.

absoluteSuccess:
That's a good idea @Olu, Eri and Ogun are some of the entry in the history from Yoruba end.

Yeah but there are many family names within Yorubaland that is key to unraveling many mystery as regard Yoruba history. Despite the vacuum in the Orikis,they still remain a link to the past.

absoluteSuccess:
words...

Glad to have you back great soul.

I will definitely publish almost all my works once I'm done and financially secured to do that. I escaped what would have been a fatal accident that might have claimed my life yesterday, around 9pm. I see how this post of yours connects to it.

I think your post is a reminder, God is telling me not to keep what he has given me somewhere while I pursue my personal gains. He is reminding me that he kept me alive for a purpose for I would have lost it if not for him yesterday.

I'm still in shock as I speak.

Life Is Good.

Hmmm,this is serious, although, I know each man has a definite day to leave this world but leaving it must be a joyous one in Old age with gray hair. Almighty God shall make you see absolute gray hair on your head by his grace.

Israeli Embassy Confers Posthumous Award on Obafemi Awolowo.
The Israeli Ambassador has conferred a posthumous award on Chief Obafemi Awolowo in his strides in agriculture, particularly on rubber and cocoa.
During a courtesy visit to the Executive Director and CEO of Nigerian Export Promotion Council (NEPC), Mr Olusegun Awolowo, as part of Israeli 70th year of independence.
http://www.tribuneonlineng.com/israeli-embassy-
confers-posthumous-award-on-awolowo/

babaolofin:
This is part of Tourism development initiatives. Greece & some European countries have various cultural festivals. China & some Asian countries have theirs, the same with countries in Latin America.

Talking drums & some few other drums originated from Nigeria (Yoruba). Talking drum is in major museums all over the world. It is a celebration of our historical background. We are proud of it.

Awesome assertion from you.

Hati13:
I know what you are saying and I agree in some of your points. But I personally don’t think it’s the time to collectively feel HUMAN. Maybe that will happen when Humans are under treat from others like Aliens or others. But it’s a subjective question and everyone has his/her opinion. So I’m not against you to feel not African.

We all are human being so let's be human . So, define yourself and see where you belong.

Hati13:
He was definitely wrong in that.

You See,Hati13, it seems that the you responded to and affirmed I was wrong lacked understanding English language and she made you believed I have hatred for Beta Israel. She probably needed attention but wont get my attention on on this platform but you . I wonder why I would hate 'em(Falasas). Maybe she needs go back to schooI and study English and human history so that she will simply know persecution and enslavement is all about of human history,which is not the same way with Beta Israel are treated,If it is not true,how many Beta Israel desired to leave Israel and go back to Ethiopa? Where exactly did I inffered that being slave or enslaved is good? This is my problem with emotion freak people I find online, like her. I know the difference between reality and fairy tales. She is a fairy tale kind of human being . Life itself is full of challenges and if you fight through, you become exceptional and a conqueror. I know being oppressed by fellow mankind ,especially those people that supposedly belong to the same school of thought as regard religion needn't be so but here we are telling a story of people that the Israelis spent million to airlift to Israel because of persecution in Ethiopia.
Around 1980s, American Jewish groups searching for “lost tribes” discovered the Falasha. In a series of military-style operations, Ethiopia’s Jews were surgically extracted from their ancestral lands. In the mid-1980s, in the clandestine Operation Moses, Jews were encouraged to flee secretly to Sudan, from whence they were airlifted to Israel. The CIA and the Israeli secret service paid millions of dollars to the Sudanese security services to facilitate this operation, which collapsed following the overthrow of the Nimeiri government in 1985. if these Falasas ,whose history is connected to Israel and Agew people weren't oppressed in Ethiopia, would they had left Ethiopia for Israel's land ? The point here is that noone will give you your freedom until you ‘fight' for it . And to ‘fight' for it doesn't mean, you have to be violent,instead,let your knowledge shine forth and equal your enemies ,so that they will tremble before you. As you and I know, that human history is embedded around religious beliefs, Royalty and Race Supremacy .
In as much , as you see yourself as human being, then you can equal any being in all field on this planet. Ask ,Yorubas or Nigeria's other tribes/ethnic group,then you will realise that there is no difference in human beings but we see all as creation from one God. I don't feel inferior to anyone nor does my people.
I am a Yoruba man from a strong ancestral ineage, with outstanding ancient record and even if I can't change the name, still I am not a lover of such name given to a continent I was born by a foreigner, who was on conquest mission....

Cheers

Phut:
Olu317 is just a confused person and is contradicting himself all over the thread. On one hand he cries out against the Nazi’s treatment of Jews, but in the next breath he is justifying the inhuman treatment of Beta Israel by European jews. His claim is that anyone can be treated as a slave if they do not distinguish themselves. Why did he forget this “logic” when the European Jews were on the receiving end?

Olu317 has been brainwashed into being accepting of the maltreatment of his fellowing Africans

Just imagine what a Lady can type? A disappointment , you are . I am the one that forcefully made Africans travel without proper documentation? People perish for lack of knowledge . You want attention, here you have it but won't go beyond these opinion of mine.If you have problem with the Caucasians,then deal with it. If you find yourself in the midst of the Arabs,try to survive and if you find yourself with your like minds, then live an isolation worldview.

Cheers

Hati13:
Forgive me for this question, but do you favor non-African over African?

You amazed with your Africanism yet you failed to see the reality on ground. There is nothing African about all of us but a joke because we all shared different ideology and all mankind from all part of the world live in Africa, do you fail to see that ? What is more important is that having humane ideology is what all of us need as human beings. My ideology surpasses being trapped as a jinn in a bottle. My point is ,think like human, endure the tribulation like the gods and shine like the stars...

jupiterx:
Thanks sir

All the best dear.

Hati13:
Muafrika2,

I don’t think European Jew looked like Ethiopian 1000 years. They were European from the beginning.

Olu317,

I’m not zealous about Bet Israel. I just read about the negative treatment they faced in Israel and respond. I know not all Bete Israel have ancient connection with Israel, but so does some other Jew. In fact, Ethiopian jew have better and long history with Israel than European or Indian or Chinese Jew. They also practice the ancient form of Judaism.

I disagree with you because you underestimated the power of God. And if you don't believe in God, then you haven't done enough research to realise that Canaan was a cosmopolitan country with different tribes alongside with Israelites . These people areThe Canaanites( inhabitants before conquest), Hittites, Amorites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites etc . They took their daughters in marriage and gave their own daughters to their sons, and served their gods. This showed Israelite was a Race and did had different look . The point here is that European Jews, with genuine claim will definitely have their own look,considering who they lived with and married . After all, Solomon was a Black man,because his mother was Bathsheba, whose father was Eliam and Ahithophel, the Gilonite from Hamitic Race. So no need for this anger, because the reality is that many a times people get treated wrongly but dedication and education is the key for the Beta Israelis to rob shoulder with shoulder with the other Israelis clan.

jupiterx:
My oba... This is interesting sir, but how does he fit into the story and song?

Osungbo is the name of the place,where Bilikisu(assumed Queen of Sheba) resided and ultimately died. The same name was used to send a prophetic message to Obalufon,when he sojourned to the place,he was worshipped which is not too far from Ado,that absolutesuccess mentioned as his family compund. And from this information, given out, it proved that the compound those maidservants/ traditionalist cultic group visited belonged to Obalufon and his descendants, if one understand and consider the praises adduced to this particular compund. It only showed there was a relationship between the Osungbo cult group,who probably were collectively priests/Seers, with outstanding seering. If one realise that Ijebuland either of the past or today , had and still has innumerable numbers of IFA priests and other Yoruba cultic groups within her enclave.
How does it fit in ?
It showed that it is possible for any one,especially of a royalty to travel to other places and such person's legacy is imprinted on sands of time. In essence, Bilikisu could be Ijebu(Yoruba) despite inconsitency with the radio carbon that proved ILE IFE as the first habited by Yorubas, which is contrary to Eredo–Osungbo in Ijebu. Despite this, it could also be a historical memory transfer at a probable different locaton from one generation to another till infinity of a woman known as a Bilikisu(Queen Sheba). Furthermore, the personalities could be different, considering the vast years of existence between Obalufon and Solomon .True or False, no one is really sure , if Queen of Sheba had a child or was barren because, there is inconsistency in Yemen–Ethiopia –Arab's account. And the Bible,didn't give her specific name.

Interesting.

You've probably got this all figured out.

Nothing wrong with an alternative hypothesis, but at least the proponent of an alternative hypothesis should be able to show why he believes the already existing hypothesis is wrong, and his own correct.

There's already a consensus in mainstream academia that the Kingdom of Sheba was the same as the ancient Southern Arabian and Northern Ethiopian Kingdom of Saba centred in what is today Yemen. The Kingdom of Saba fits the description for a number of reasons:

1. The timeline marches the dating for King Solomon in Israelite chronology.

The Kingdom of Saba was already flourishing by c.930 BC - around the time we know King Solomon was on the throne in Jerusalem.

2. The Bible mentions that the Queen of Sheba brought gifts of spices, gold and precious stones.

Again, this fits with what is known about the Arabian kingdom of Saba. The Kingdom is known to have acquired great wealth from a monopoly of the spice trade through Southern Arabia. So, it makes sense that this spice-rich kingdom would present King Solomon with spices.

Also, archaeological work on the colonies controlled by the Kingdom of Saba in Northern Ethiopia has revealed extensive gold mines mined from antiquity by the Sabeans. So in addition to its riches in spices, this kingdom was also rich in gold.

3. The names of the Biblical Kingdom and the Kingdom of Saba march one another

Hebrew is a somewhat 'coarse' language. For example, 's' in Arabic occurs often in Hebrew as 'sh'.

eg: Shalom (Hebrew) : Salam (Arabic)
Ishmael (Hebrew) : Ismail (Arabic)

As 'sh' becomes 's', so also in many (though not all) cases, the Hebrew 'e' becomes the Arabic 'a'.

eg: El (Hebrew) : Allah (Arabic)
Melech (Hebrew) : Malik (Arabic)
Shem (Hebrew) : Sam (Arabic).

Following these rules of sound change, the name of the Biblical Kingdom (Sheba) is a perfect march for the name of the ancient Yemenite Kingdom (Saba). In fact, the Arabic name (as well as Qu'ranic name) for Sheba is simply Saba - the name of the ancient Yemenite Kingdom.

4. Considering your reference to 'the ends of the earth':

This phrase also fits the position of Saba in the southern Arabian region of Yemen. Beyond the Southern Arabian peninsula where Saba is situated you have the Red Sea on the west and the Indian Ocean on the south and east. On the other side of both water bodies are the little known (from a biblical point of view) Indian and Subsaharan African subcontinents. So in a sense, Southern Arabia was at the 'ends of the world' from the view point of someone in ancient Israel.

I see what you tried to do with the name Bilikisu. Cool and impressive. But perhaps I should remind you that the name of the queen of Sheba is not really known. The Bible which was the first book to tell her story did not give us her. The Qu'ran, too, gave us no name. The first name ascribed to her came from Ethiopian sources, and the name given was Makeda. At a later period in history, Muslim scholars came up with the name Bilqis, which scholars believe was derived from the Hebrew word 'Pilegesh', meaning "concubine" (Because she was believed to have been Solomon's concubine.)

It is instructive that it is by the Muslim name (Bilqis -Bilikisu) that she has become known among the Ijebus, who began to convert to Islam in the mid-19th century. I don't think it is a far-fetched speculation to posit that the Ijebu who had lost the original account of how their ancestors built the defensive earthwork around their kingdom in about the ninth century after Christ, began to turn for explanation to the newly acquired religion of Islam and the story of Bilqis (Bilikisu).

In summary: the evidence in favour of Saba is very strong, from chronology to linguistics, to biblical evidence. And anyone who intends to propose an alternative theory has to make an equally strong (if not stronger) case.

Bilikisu had existed before 19th century or advent of muslim converts in Ijebu.

jupiterx:
good evening brother, regarding your song, which obalufon is being mention, or who rather?, cause am thinking it's Obalufon Alaayemore

There is no iota of doubt about the Oriki because, it belonged to Obalufon Alayemore.

Hati13:
You are right, but I’m not saying those without reason. Ethiopian Jew in Israel are being treated like slave as we speak by those European Jew who wants the world to feel sorry for them.

Anyone can be treated as slave as long as such do not have exceptional trait to show outstanding excellence in his or her endeavor . The point here is that anyone can be made to be slave as long as such individual behaves in like manner. But someone that have what it takes to give to his or her society, will definitely be respected and honoured. What I am inferring is that , in all times, ones environment should be reason to showcase tremendous ability when such environment isn't favourable ,in which attention is drawn to oneself unknowingly and appreciation follow suit for an outstanding characters. This doesn't mean, I support such maltreatment of some of the Beta Israel as it seems but the reality is over flogged as you think of it . As of today,there are many Africans either Beta Israelis or not that live in Israel today without correct documents. And this people aren't as harassed as likened to Germany and some other European countries . Despite this challenges,it hasn't change the fact that terrorism does exist in Israel. Please ,don't be too overzealous about Beta Israel because, not all of them do have genetic connection to the present day Israelis. But be zealous to make great impact in this life ,so that your name will be engraved on the sands of time.


Cheers.

Hati13:
Not all Blacks are Negriod. Every group of ppl had been enslaved by others at one point in the past. Hitlar did a good job on European Jew.

I didn't expect this from you. How on earth can you justify the Nazism action against the Jews during Aldoff Hitler's totalitarian government in Germany around late 1920s–1940s? Honestly,you need live above hate because the same white folks you accused wrongly are the reason for the transfer of the little technological knowhow in this modern days. The same force applicable to White racists is the same that was applicable to Moor/ Black/Negroid Racists when they were in power in the ancient times. Bottom line,is that no man is sinless. We all have a choice to exhibit positive and exemplary character worth being adored.

Hati13:
Not all Blacks are Negriod. Every group of ppl had been enslaved by others at one point in the past. Hitlar did a good job on European Jew.

I didn't expect this from you. How on earth can you justify the Nazism action against the Jews during Aldoff Hitler's totalitarian government in Germany around late 1920s–1940s.Honestly,you need live above hate because the same white folks you accused wrongly are the reason for the transfer of the little technological knowhow in this modern days. The same force applicable to White racists is the same that was applicable to Moor/ Black/Negroid Racists when they were in power in the ancient times. Bottom line,is that no man is sinless. We all have a choice to exhibit positive and exemplary character worth being adored.

absoluteSuccess:
Good morning bro,

I think the particular option is missing, the intonation is 'rere'.

the first option up there in your list is the strong form of it.

the last is what the Yoruba pronounces when they call the place its name.

the option you ask for rhymes with Eric. I mean the option for 'river'.

(as in) Eric Moore.

Èrí was the original word for Òrí ( head) ,which was as a result of Oyo's phonemes that became adopted as the standard. This affected such letters as È, O, simply because of the language's correct alphabetical arrangement and usage. Érí is also a name,which is different from the interpretation of yours and this name existed before present day Christianity because it is one of the genealogical oriki of Ooni Olubuse.
It is as this; ‘Olubuse Eri Ogun'. The point here is within the Orikis ,there are hidden historical information that has not been examined to determine the actual reason for such name and formation of it.

absoluteSuccess:
h

Olu special.

May God bless you.

Its people like you that makes this site works for others, not the regular fools that are bent on creating the new world order and barking like the dogs that they are, everywhere.

God bless you too, great man with outstanding wisdom. Have a wonderful time.

Khoisan
These people are two groups known as San People and Khoikhoi people who shared traits,whose language was classified by Joseph Greenberg but different from Bantu groups.
Khoisan languages do not belong to other African language families . For much of the 20th century, San and Khoikoi were thought to be
genealogically related to each other, but this is no longer accepted. They are now held to comprise three distinct language families and two language isolates .
Again, Yorubas don't have interbreeding with Pygmies. Non of the study so far from reputably international researchers had or have been seen anywhere to Yorubas because Yoruba blood sample is among being used to identify anciently related ancestors.

unitysheart:
Nigeria just won Gold medal in the Commonwealth Games 100m hurdles women finals, courtesy Oluwatobiloba Amusan

Awesome Tobiloba. Olympic await your outstanding fit. Go go go girl.

ezeagu:
"We found evidence for historically complex and regionally distinct admixture with multiple HG and Eurasian populations across SSA (Fig. 2 and Supplementary Note 5). Specifically, ancient Eurasian admixture was observed in central West African populations (Yoruba; ∼7,500–10,500 years ago),"

"Our finding of ancient Eurasian admixture corroborates findings of non-zero Neanderthal ancestry in Yoruba, which is likely to have been introduced through Eurasian admixture and back migration, possibly facilitated by greening of the Sahara desert during this period13,14."

https://www.nature.com/articles/nature13997

Don't bother yourself Iboman.Many of us Yorubas know our history via language, genetics finding and oral accounts. Even Professor David Reich (geneticist) , at Harvard Medical school, did research on it and wrote about it.

Below is Professor David Reich.

omohayek:
Stop peddling this jingoistic nonsense as if it were fact. What is all the rubbish about "the Binis on the other hand have a more logical explanation", other than you want to believe that a kingdom founded in the 14th century, well after Oduduwa's historical existence, somehow was the source of his origins? Was Oduduwa a time-traveler according to this fable which ignores well-attested historical timings? Your argument makes as much sense as saying "The Jews believe Moses was found by an Egyptian prince, but the Rwandans have a more logical explanation that he was a banished Hutu from their kingdom" - in other words, it is the product of a confused, ignorant mind laboring under a mighty inferiority complex.

The hard, well-verified truth about the current line of Obas of Benin right back into the 14th century, when the indigenous Ogiso rulers were overthrown, is that they are of Yoruba ancestry, and Yoruba was even the exclusive courtly language right up until the 20th century. No amount of myth-making born of a sense of inferiority will ever change that.

Bini didn't exist during Igodomigo
and you do not have logical explanation for my ancestor known as Oduduwa place of history. Igodomigodo knows nothing about Odua place of history .The rest information I acknowledged. Oranmiyan was busting their balls. Luusi was busting their balls. Laade was busting their balls. Deerin was busting their balls . Whose balls were Oduduwa descendants were busting their balls? Edo balls . Beside, Igomigodo didnt bore same name with Odua nor his descendants name in the ancient.How do you relate with it ?

Excellent work you have produced out there. Kudos.

Mobilia:
Oh I'm sorry for laughing. I just don't know what a "triggered ape" is?
Lol.... believe me when I tell you that I experience a roller coaster of emotions reading N.L. info and comments...
The info is so humorous and comedic, that I don't know whether to laugh or get angry??...lol.
Nigerians don't even know sometimes that they are so hilarious without even trying.....
Some topics shouldn't be touched...but I tell you that the wit is second-to-none.....it's almost ridiculously brilliant....
At the bolded, you mean you're a Yoruba man? I would've never guessed that....lol.
Just kidding...I could tell by the name "OLU"....it seems like a lot of Yoruba names start off with an "OL" and a vowel combination...
I can identify Igbo names pretty well...and Yoruba names a close second.
Anyhow...I'm doing sooo much better...
Hope you are as well.

Cheers (I'm gonna start saying this phrase a little more since I see it a lot on N.L.).

Oh yes, I know what the guy meant when he used the words, ‘ape triggered.' It means, angered / provoked ape( ape was basically used as a derogatory to abuse black people in the past ). The real laugh is ,when I discovered, the guy is also an African,because he said,he is a Muslim,from somewhere in Nigeria.This is the reason I laughed hilariously at him when I was replying him on that thread. And on the negative words used by him is nomore tenable today, science has proved the genetic composition of humanity as being descended from Africans of Blackskin in Africa before migration out of Africa. Naturally, you will find some people who are truculent in nature simply because, some ,want to learn from you or want to attack you when there is slight opportunity to do so on NL but still learn from you.

You are slightly incorrect as deciphering ‘OLU’, because, Ibos too have names in which ‘OL/OLU', is used as a prefix to another. Although, meaning is slightly different from one and another. I am doubtful if Yoruba names majorly start with ‘OLU' because circumstances of birth, demigods (Orisas) associated with and individual's family lineage(as a royal or nonroyal) are the determinant factors for names in Yoruba land in the ancient times even till now. If I am to give it a thought ,I will infer, Yoruba names start with ‘A' .
And Oh yes, I am Yoruba and non negotiable . Infact,the people I mentioned are Yorubas with exception of Francis. And I put Francis name because I don't want you to see me as bias ......Honestly, I am cool with his style on NL even if we don't share same ideology.

Have a wonderful time outthere

Cheers,

Mobilia:
Hi again,
Ok...wow...
I don't want to laugh (and I'm wrong for doing so...but "ape triggered"?....
I have never in my years of life heard of such a thing....!
I must admit that the term "fish brain" is quite hilarious to describe someone....(one of the less "harmful" adjectives I guess...)
But yes, I do see what you are saying....
I get emotional...leave and then come back...but I need to stop doing it that way....
Perhaps I should just take a break and maybe not read anything on N.L. (for a day) and then come back the next day or so.

Thanks for the list of nice guys...
I have chatted on the "Culture" section with the Francis guy pertaining to the Igbo name-ceremony (thread back in Fall 2017...I believe) that's done in some places in the U.S.
He had asked me a few questions...
But that was under one of my former "monikers" that I was using at the time.

Yes...the first guy mentioned on the list has been very nice....
Don't know the others though...but I have seen some of their names before on N.L.
Again...thanks for the encouragement.
A disagreement shouldn't mean an "unfollow", but I just don't want folks who decide to "follow" me, to be offended...cause I am passionate about certain things!
Take care...

Oh yes,you can laugh over it again and again . But truthfully, I wasn't annoyed because I realised he was obsessed to my information and he lacked indepth . And I am definitely sure and confident of my look,wherever I find myself . Funny enough he has nothing to be proud of as regard ancestors exploration. A real and proud Brownish Yoruba man is who I am!
I hope you are good.

Cheers

Mobilia:
How are you Mr. Olu?

Umm...I'm kinda lost here with your reply to me....
Oh no...did I do something wrong again?
I found this thread by chance...and wanted to encourage a hurt person.. (which is what "you" if you are a Nigerian...should have done).
The OP expressed their opinion...just like all the millions of members do here each and every day.
I found it too late...cause it the OP left.
I should have, however, used the word "many" instead of generalizing an entire group of people.....I apologize... because you are right....
I can't speak for 180 million Nigerians...and I haven't. I am speaking based on my time here on N.L.
Unfortunately, I cannot take away the OP's experience, nor you take mine away, nor I take yours away.
It is what it is.....so 2 choices are always present.
The OP made a choice....I just wanted the person to not feel alone about it...
I try to empathize with people.....that's part of who I am.
If I thought the bad behavior represented ALL Nigerians...I wouldn't have a desire to connect with my people.....
Think about it...I don't have to learn about Nigeria through N.L.....(there are so many other methods that I can use)...but I simply choose to. I desire to connect with Nigerian people in spite of...regardless of the mistreatment.....
I like Nairaland....plain and simply....and I'm learning so much (in addition to what my dad has told me) that when I get to Nigeria in the near future, I won't feel so clue-less and lost...yay!

Anyhow, sir you did read ALL of my post right?
You did see that I tried to balance my words....give both a positive and a negative side...correct?
Cause I gave credit (and have done so many times before) to the few nice, kind and sincere Nigerians that I have encountered) on here.
I even mentioned that 2 people encouraged or had something kind to say to the OP right on this thread...
You do realize that "I" encouraged the young man to "come back"....just as I've done.
You do see that I am member (yet again) on this site sir?
Seems like you were "itching" to scold me...lol...for speaking out of bounds.
Sir, I would hope you would offer the OP encouragement....rather than "spank" me....
Maybe the OP may happen to look at this thread and come back....if an intelligent man such as yourself would release some wisdom.

P.S. You may want to "unfollow" me cause I may say something in the future that you disagree with.
I don't want to upset you...
You can, however, make it easier for my perception to rapidly change by introducing me to some of the "good Nigerians with impeccable characters worthy of emulation" as you nicely put it....(besides my extended family over there).
Nice meeting you by the way

Cheers....

I did read through your opinion and the advice you gave the person ,which I sincerely adore your superhuman nature. The only place I differ is your assumption at generalizing the bad eggs on NL who are Nigerians with the good ones, even if you tried to put a balance to it.
Honestly, there are people on NL who are bullish,mannerless and can't inform properly without insulting. I have had same experience on NL,at different times because of diverse opinion that we shared, which is based on individual's exposure and perception. In fact, I was banned recently by a biased moderator on NL, when a guy on particular thread that has to do with Yorubas and Ibos genetic composition. This particular first guy referred to me as ‘ape triggered and the second man from my tribe called me a ‘bastard'. And when I categorically referred to the first man as not having any of his ancestors who did exploit like mine, I was banned. Can you imagine? The point here is that human beings either have good or bad characters . And NL isn't an exception to such people. So , bear with the faceless clowns that make you feel bad.
Of course yes, there are impeccable characters that you link up with if it is about knowledge juxtaposition. These men and women are on different section on NL.All you need to do is to take your time to fish 'em out. Men like gods that I have come across, such as konquest, absolutesuccess,MetaPhysical, nisai, bigfrancis , tosyne,etc.
Lastly, I don't see any reason to stop following you on NL ,even if we have different opinion on a subject matter.
Indeed ,it is nice meeting you too.

Cheers

I read through your opinion and the advice you gave the guy,which I sincerely adore your superhuman nature. The only place I differ is your assumption at generalizing the bad eggs on NL with the good ones, even if you tried to put a balance to it.
Honestly, there are people on NL who are bullish,mannerless and can't inform properly without insulting. I have had same experience on NL,at different times because of diverse opinion that we shared, which is based on individual's exposure and perception. In fact, I was banned recently by a biased moderator on NL, when a guy on particular thread that has to do with Yorubas and Ibos genetic composition. This particular first guy referred to me as ‘ape triggered' and the second man from my tribe called me a ‘bastard',. And when I categorically referred to the first man as not having an ancestors who did exploit like mine, I was banned. Can you imagine? The point here is that human beings either have good or bad characters . And NL isn't an exception to such people. So , bear with the faceless clowns that make you feel bad.
Of course yes, there are impeccable characters that you link up with if it is about knowledge juxtaposition. These men and women are on different section on NL.All you need to do is to take your time to fish 'em out. Men like gods that I have come across, such as konquest, absolutesuccess,metaphysic, nisai, bigfrancis , tosyne,etc.
Lastly, I don't see any reason to stop following you on NL ,even if we have different opinion on a subject matter.
Indeed,it is nice meeting you also.

Cheers

[quote author=Mobilia post=66540535]How are you Mr. Olu?

Umm...I'm kinda lost here with your reply to me....
Oh no...did I do something wrong again?
I found this thread by chance...and wanted to encourage a hurt person.. (which is what "you" if you are a Nigerian...should have done).
The OP expressed their opinion...just like all the millions of members do here each and every day.
I found it too late...cause it the OP left.
I should have, however, used the word "many" instead of generalizing an entire group of people.....I apologize... because you are right....
I can't speak for 180 million Nigerians...and I haven't. I am speaking based on my time here on N.L.
Unfortunately, I cannot take away the OP's experience, nor you take mine away, nor I take yours away.
It is what it is.....so 2 choices are always present.
The OP made a choice....I just wanted the person to not feel alone about it...
I try to empathize with people.....that's part of who I am.
If I thought the bad behavior represented ALL Nigerians...I wouldn't have a desire to connect with my people.....
Think about it...I don't have to learn about Nigeria through N.L.....(there are so many other methods that I can use)...but I simply choose to. I desire to connect with Nigerian people in spite of...regardless of the mistreatment.....
I like Nairaland....plain and simply....and I'm learning so much (in addition to what my dad has told me) that when I get to Nigeria in the near future, I won't feel so clue-less and lost...yay!

Anyhow, sir you did read ALL of my post right?
You did see that I tried to balance my words....give both a positive and a negative side...correct?
Cause I gave credit (and have done so many times before) to the few nice, kind and sincere Nigerians that I have encountered) on here.
I even mentioned that 2 people encouraged or had something kind to say to the OP right on this thread...
You do realize that "I" encouraged the young man to "come back"....just as I've done.
You do see that I am member (yet again) on this site sir?
Seems like you were "itching" to scold me...lol...for speaking out of bounds.
Sir, I would hope you would offer the OP encouragement....rather than "spank" me....
Maybe the OP may happen to look at this thread and come back....if an intelligent man such as yourself would release some wisdom.

P.S. You may want to "unfollow" me cause I may say something in the future that you disagree with.
I don't want to upset you...
You can, however, make it easier for my perception to rapidly change by introducing me to some of the "good Nigerians with impeccable characters worthy of emulation" as you nicely put it....(besides my extended family over there).
Nice meeting you by the way

Cheers....




[/quoteI am good and you? I read through your opinion and the advice you gave the guy,which I sincerely adore your superhuman nature.
Honestly, there are people on NL who are bullish,mannerless and cant inform properly. I have had same experience on NL, at different times because of diverse opinion that we shared based on individual's exposure and perception. In fact, I was banned recently by a biased moderator on NL, when a guy on particular thread that has to do with Yorubas and Ibos. This particular first guy referred to me as ‘ape triggered' and the second man from my tribe called me a ‘bastard',. And when I categorically referred to the first a man as not having an ancestors who did exploit like mine, I was banned. Can you imagine? The point here is that human beings either have good or bad characters . And NL isn't an exception to such people. So , bear with the faceless clowns that make you feel bad.
Of course yes, there are impeccable characters that you link up with if it is about knowledge juxtaposition. These men and women are on different section on NL.All you need to do is to take your time to fish 'em out. Men like gods that I have come across, such as konquest, absolutesuccess,metaphysic, nisai, bigfrancis , tosyne,etc.
Lastly, I don't see any reason to stop following you on NL ,even if we have different opinion on a subject matter.
Indeed,it is nice meeting you also.

Cheers

Mobilia:
Brother,
This is so sad to hear. You said you are a Westerner....and by how you write.....I assume that you are speaking the truth.
I am writing this hoping and praying (against all hope) that you may come back as a guest to check this your final post and be encouraged by my words to you.
I am a foreigner too (although my situation is a little unique).
If I didn't have 50 percent Nigerian blood in me (and have experienced some aspects of Nigerian mannerisms through my dad), I would have fled from day 1, never looking back...
I have deactivated and re-activated (about 5-6 times) within the timeframe of my 15 months of membership...and boy have I been discouraged....and wanted to pull my hair out.....from the roots....lol.
I get it dear....I so get it.
You were probably trying to show etiquette, kindly notify your friends and followers and gracefully leave the forum (something I never did anytime I deactivated)....
Even with that, look at the replies....only about 2 folks encouraged you...
I can feel your pain...I really can.
I am really sorry that you haven't had the best experience....trust me I know.

Don't know whether you are Black-American or not, but it's rare that Black Americans want to research and explore Africa at all...based on what they have been shown on television. They don't know their heritage and ashamed of the little they do know.
They don't want to be associated with the continent at all.

So when a Black-American shows an interest, it should be taken seriously.....

With all due respect (and I hope I don't get banned for expressing my thoughts), I wonder if Nigerians understand that the way in which they approach life can be quite harsh, aggressive and brutal....
I wonder if it's because of the cards that they have been dealt....where only the "toughest survive", where they see inconsistencies in all aspects of their government (based on what I've read on N.L), or no change which would afford them better lifestyles....
Or even "not the toughest" but rather the struggle to survive on a daily basis...which produces such an attitude...

Anyhow, I wish I would've been able to meet you...and encourage you.
But you may do like me....and come back.....
I'm determined to believe that some kind, gentle, sincere and pure-motive Nigerians are on this site (like the 2 people here (who encouraged you) who let me know that there's hope).
Be blessed brother.....

Of course not, contrary to your opinion ,Nigerians don't approach life, in a ‘harsh,aggressive and brutal', mannerism but opposite to your perception. The problem on NL is the reason you've this thought and it is so unfortunate,as it regard the uncordial attitude of few Nigerians on NL who are different from the ones in real life.
NL Nigerians element with bad characters can't be used as the leverage characters for 180,000,000+ Nigerian population.
So,once you come across uncultured NL Nigerians, don't be perturbed because you will also find out that same Forum has good Nigerians with impeccable characters worthy of emulation.

Cheers.

lefulefu:
i no be yoruba guy oo..iyam just playing safe.i don see men wey use the money meant to build their own personal house or money wey dem save and dat wey their family contribute for them to further themselves overseas for further studies dey will use it to sponsor a girl in sch for 4-5 yrs. And the end of the schooling the girls will dump them and marry another man and the heartbroken dude will drink sniper or jump from the bridge into the Atlantic ocean.

oh k. Cheers.