₦airaland Forum

Moorish:
I mean no disrespect man, but...

How do you expect to live in a country with the Edos with this your rhetoric?

You are basically saying yorubas are superior to edos.

I do not believe that.

What i believe is we have things which make us unique. That should be our focus

If the Edos say they are superior to us and we say same, that is the start of conflict

We should respect each other.

I have a deep reverence and love for my ancestors, all the peoples who now make up nigeria

I never had the priviledge of being born and raised in my ancestral land of oyo. I have lived in parts of nigeria and outside nigeria

A nigerian heritage is my only hope

Peace

What disgust us mostly as Yorubas are the manners at which these set of people, tries so much to tell lies. Take for instance, Majek Fashek, who grew up in Edo and with his Edo mother. But little did a lot of people knew , Majek was of a Yoruba father and not until he had problem with drug before his paternal family called on important Yoruba bigwigs, who sponsored him for rehab at U.K hospital. If the man had died before the era of accessibility to internet, a lot would have thought he is Edo,the way I had thought in the early 1990s that I saw him in my area at Lagos.The point here is certain information needed be made open before people, who enjoys revisionism manipulate the truth. In as much, we Yoruba show love to some of these Edo people but turn around to insult such privilege,then it is better to expose the truth because of future generation.

Hati13:
Olu317,

Yes I’m Amhara and speak Amharic, but I can’t speak the Falashas naive language/s. But if you want it in Amharic, it’s translate as “yena Fetari/Egzire meder".

Some Falashas are of Amhara origin just like some Amhara are of Falashas. But generally, all Falashas are grouped under their own distinct ethnic

How is that statement translated into one word in Yoruba language? Is Yoruba last generally expresses a statement by one worse just like Chinese language?

The etymology of Yoruba language is a derivative of combination of words,which are collapsed into it purpose of meaning. And when there is need for the interpretation to English version, you find it necessary to explain it in the best fit. ILÉ( Land) Urisa–Orisa(God) m–mi(me). This is how it was formed. And you can either separate it or collapse it naturally into one pronunciation.

Hati13:
I can’t speak the language of the Falashas.

Oh k. I had thought you are Amharic and some are Ethiopians Jews?

Hati13:
I can’t speak the language of the Falashas.

Oh k. I thought, you mentioned, some were Amharic tribes.

Hati13:
AdaFonju,

Most Ethiopian Jew indeed speak Amharic currently but this isn’t their own language and it was only after the 17th century they adopted it. Their own language is Agew (Cushitic), sometimes mix with little ancient Hebrew.

Can you mention 20 old Hebrew words spoken by the Falasas(Ethiopian Jews)? Then, how do they say; ‘the land of my God(s) or my God's land in Ethiopian Jews language' ?

In Yorubaland,it means ; Iléosami or iléorisami or iléorusami.

Moorish:
This superiority tussle will only massage the ego

It is worthless to me

And not founded in reality

How proud should British sons feel since they conquered us all? And we speak their language? Copy their civilization from the clothes we wear to the names we give our children

African consciousness/A nigerian identity and a respect for my ancestors is more fulfilling for me. And everywhere I visit in this great country I can call my home.

Both the kings of ife and benin seem to have a mutual respect for eachother and their shared heritage

We, their subjects should learn from our kings

Peace

I appreciate your genuine effort at making peace but do these liars deserve such ?Of course not because many of these Young people online dont have respect for Yorubas ,simply because we stretch forth hands of brotherliness. And they abuse it.

Kudos bro ,much love.

Cheers

BabaRamota1980:
Prior to Oranmiyan creating Ile Ibinu, which evolved to Bini, did you ever have a people on your land called Bini people? No! The migrants from Ife, the Nobles, the Aristocrats and Diplomats, these are the Binis.

What you have is land. This is why you have a custom that negotiate with the Bini King to lease land before he can be coronated.

To buttress more to your view. As at close to mid 1930s or thereabout was the reign of Current grandfather of Oba Bini that did the treaty which showed Bini King was a foreigner from ILE IFE. So also, the previous Obas in Biniland that reigned. Below is the treaty that still proof this liars wrong about Bini kingdom

davidnazee:
Common sense is really not common with some people or you blinded with jealousy you forgot your common sense somewhere abi?
Rome is tiny but ruled the world. I think some Yorubas will understand that size dont matter but it is your bravery and power and strategy that counts and Great Benin had it all.
Your map only shows location of Benin and not the reach and influence of its empire.. You really not get sense at all.. Macrof is more sensible than you.

on another note, if you say Benin is tiny and Yoruba is large but yet you fighting superiority battle with Benin and having this back and forth arguments, doesn't it show that Great Benin must have impacted your lives in a very big way? afterall no smoke without fire.

Obviously, your opinion is basically from Edoland and doesn't go out of there . Continue in your ignorance like I have mentioned. Either Macof is more sensible than I or not has nothing to do with you because, he is even Yoruba and not a serial liars like many of your likes online from Edo. For every negative words you wrongfully use on me,then it means you have abused your king because he came out of my lineage . Go and learn the difference between Oviedo and Omo Yoruba. Pathetic liar from the Edo enclave is who you are. I chose not to engage you on abusive term because I am older than you from the way you type online . Hopefully, in your next life you need pray to Almighty God to come out as a descent of Oranmiyan as I am. You can see you have nothing as historical to glorify you as what my ancestor did in your Edo village. And the last time I checked ,the map was Kingdom of Edo by Professor Osarhieme Benson Osadolor.
A man from the heart of Edoland!
Lick your wound.

Moorish:
I hear you brother, but at this point in time there is no point arguing on who is superior. We are all black people, african people.

We all have a world out there that looks at us as thesame race and they discriminate us thesame.

Study the history of our ancestors, from one slavery to the next. Today, arab, tommorow europe

We share alot in common, especially southern nigerians

The benin, ife, nri, oyo, all our kingdoms from east to west, even our brothers in the middle belt, the ancient nok, zaria in the north..

We had civilizations. We need to pull on our collective strengths and heritage, respect eachother and build an empire here in africa that would do the black nation proud

We have the wrong set of leaders and by the way some of us are acting we won't make better leaders either

Great opinion from you although the reality is that we may look alike as Africans so also via intermarriages but not necessarily of the same stock as Africans. We always fail to see the reality as Africans because, until we recognise our groups as different identities and work on our unifying factors. As a Yoruba man , I know my history very well and we aren't cannibals as some Africans, even within some of the enclave you mentioned. And, I find no pride feeling superior over anyone . In fact, in real life I mingle with sane people ,irrespective of tribes and no a hater of anyone. Once again, I appreciate your opinion with great humility.

Moorish:
I just wish you brothers could see the potential beauty in our unity and diversity, variety of cultures/civilizations.

Truthfully, you are right but these Edo revisionists are the problems we have because they are trying so hard to tarnish the image of many Yorubas ancestors with their rotten lies they peddled online .I am sure you have seen some Edo using foul language on Ooni's stool as well as how rumours can be spread like wildlife online. This is non negotiable with me if anyone can stoop like a toddler's brain and insult my ancestor throne. This hasn't stopped me from having few Edo friends but I won't take shit from villagers Yoruba gave a standard form of civilization from 12th century which they capitalized on because of Yoruba's elders secrecy on our history.

davidnazee:
I can do the same but the yorubas should stop denying and distorting true events that happened in history.

What distortion? That Oviedo' is known as 'child of Edo' and not omo Edo ? Yoruba's word for child was and is Omo without alternative( Omo Yoruba) Yet you borrowed word from Yoruba and later deny the truth? Some of You Edos are the problem and we will always put you lot in your rightful place so that you and your likes won't distort history. We give out fact and not usage of foul words online and any Yoruba that reply you with foul words would naturally be as a result of your negative attitude online toward such. And any Yoruba who uses negative words without consistently provocation isn't Omoluabi. But you Edos with hatred for the truth which is the reason I mock at your ignorance. Before, I forget, here was the Bini Kingdom in 19th century so that you will not continue to give out wrong information about Bini kingdom.
Live with the truth.

HOW ON EARTH CAN YOU SPREAD UP TO COTONOU OR BÉNIN REPUBLIC, WHEN YOU ARE WITHIN YOUR ENCLAVE BELOW?DELUSION OF THE HIGHEST ORDER.

davidnazee:
I can do the same but the yorubas should stop denying and distorting true events that happened in history.

What distortion? That Oviedo' is known as 'child of Edo' and not omo Edo ? Yoruba's word for child was and is Omo without alternative( Omo Yoruba) Yet you borrowed word from Yoruba and later deny the truth? Some of You Edos are the problem and we will always put you lot in your rightful place so that you and your likes won't distort history. We give out fact and not usage of foul words online and any Yoruba that reply you with foul words would naturally be as a result of your negative attitude online toward such. And any Yoruba who uses negative words without consistently provocation isn't Omoluabi. But you Edos with hatred for the truth which is the reason I mock at your ignorance. Before, I forget, here was the Bini Kingdom in 19th century so that you will not continue to give out wrong information about Bini kingdom.
Live with the truth.

HOW ON EARTH CAN YOU SPREAD UP TO COTONOU OR BÉNIN REPUBLIC, WHEN YOU ARE WITHIN YOUR ENCLAVE BELOW?DELUSION OF THE HIGHEST ORDER.

davidnazee:
Wether Benin was a small piece of land doesn’t change the fact that Benin kingdom conquered and ruled your tribe (Yoruba).
Soon your Oni will acknowledge that truth.

Lord have mercy on you because of your clownish information. I will take the pain to educate young mind as yours because below was the Ooni's image dug out of Bini palace which dated back to 14th century that the sculpture was in Biniland. This showed Yoruba were the ones who ruled your Udu-Igomigodo and exposed you lot to civilization. In fact, in the next 1000 years, the same gift which were got from Ooni by your Bini kings when they pay homage to their father( Ooni) at ILE IFE would be found in the palace of Oba Ado(Bini king).

davidnazee:
Wether Benin was a small piece of land doesn’t change the fact that Benin kingdom conquered and ruled your tribe (Yoruba).
Soon your Oni will acknowledge that truth.

Lord have mercy on you because of your clownish information. I will take the pain to educate young mind as yours because below was the Ooni's image dug out of Bini palace which dated back to 14th century that the sculpture was in Biniland. This showed Yoruba were the ones who ruled your Udu-Igomigodo and exposed you lot to civilization. In fact, in the next 1000 years, the same gift which were got from Ooni by your Bini kings when they pay homage to their father( Ooni) at ILE IFE would be found in the palace of Oba Ado(Bini king).

davidnazee:
You keep running away from the real topic of discussion. Nobody is denying if Oranmiyan or Eweka were Obas in Benin kingdom.
The issue is true Identity of Oduduwa which we know is from Benin and also that Benin kingdom conquered and ruled Yorubalands.

You can not deny these events as false. They are true.

Stop this child-like play! There was no Bini before Oranmiyan. You had huts, uncivilized and chaotoic system.
And what was the topic? Have you forgotten so suddenly ? “Oba Benin visits Ooni of Ife"
Why are you like this Edoman? Yet you want to engage me ? Eleda have mercy.

wurabecca:
Another strike?

My kid bro is 21, to think he is attending this school is heartbreaking.

like, is he safe?

This is the problem with academics. They preach sanity ,equity ,accountability and uprightness yet default in some of these things . Obviously it is administration lapses but will be rectified. And your child definitely will be safe as long as he or she does not engage the security operatives at the Campus.

Be at peace with yourself.

These set of clowns won't accept the truth that Yoruba expose them to civilization! Yet,all information to this issue speak of it. I love it when I see and read fact as this
Cheers

davidnazee:
Please where did Oba Ewuare say oba is an imported word from Yoruba land? He only said Oranmiyan was brought to Benin to become the first Oba. Was Yoruba using Oba for their rulers at that time??

Also Oba Ewuare said “Those of you that know the history know that the then Oliha came to Ife to ask that Oranmiyan be brought to Benin. There are details in history books. I am cutting out the details. It’s all in the history books and you can research that”

Our Oba showed great wisdom and grace by not going into details else he would have made his hosts look foolish.

Unlike Yoruba that busy themselves with untrue stories of our pasts Obas head brought to Ife, showing pictures of dilapidated building as burial place of obas of Benin.

I even wonder why the Yoruba elders brought that story up at the meeting. Stories that have no substance and not true.
Foolishness!!

It seems English is a language you have no knowledge of? What does being the “first" mean? Just imaging the kind of mindset I engaged myself with? NL ! NL!! NL!!!,must have classic people and not this kind I engage at this moment .TRASH

Infact , I stop quoting you!

odigbosky:
At this junction i have no other option than to say bye bye to you. I guess you are one of those who just wrote jamb.

Obviously you fall within the category of people that claim what they have no knowledge. I reaffirm so that it sink deep to your head; I am Oranmiyan's descendant,so stop this unproven assertion that belong to only the LIARS from Edo. We descended not from Edoland and stop this emotional astute because it is all fallacy after the Edo beneficiary want to take a glory that belongs to Yorubas. Heterogenous People that struggled with her neighbours during ancient era that lost few places they try to manoeuvre with total Area; 17,802 km² (6,873 sq mi).
And If divided with the four major ethnic groups; namely Edo (Binis), Esan, Owan and Etsako. How many landmass would Edo–Aka–Udu –Igodomigodo control? It means Edo–Bini will control 1718.25 sq mi..

Why I am the 40th Oba of Benin Kingdom?
History also reminds us of the importance of the present time which is the only opportunity we have to take the different and too often fragmented components of our collective past to prepare the foundation for a unifying and collective future. A long line of succession of kings in the Kingdom known as Benin, started in the 12th century by modern recording. There may be some different views about the origin of some of our ancestors, but there is unanimity in the shared heritage between the people of Benin and lle lfe in identifying Oduduwa as a forebear of kingship in many kingdoms in some part of Africa and the part called Nigeria today. Historians all agreed that Oduduwa sent his son Oromiyan at the request of elders of Benin to return to them as ruler of their realm. Oromiyan staying in Benin may have been short, but before he left, a child was born to him, who was later crowned Oba and he is known today as Eweka the 1st. ;
Oromiyan’s time in Benin, however short-lived, he was an Oba and so he was the first OBA after the Ogiso dynasty came to an end.

Oranmiyan was the first Oba in Bini...As simple as ABC.

N.B: Better keep off on Yoruba issue as regard Odua or Oranyan and kindly go to romance section or other sections to showcase your talent that suit personality as yours!

odigbosky:
Just see how you displayed your ignorance here. First of all you were not the one who asked the question? I am not sure you even had any idea of what the question was. You just want to show yourself, you just rushed here to disgrace yourself. Hmmmmm, easy ehn....no be quarrel Obagodo was an Ogiso.

Who is ignorant if not you? If you have no idea of an issue,why delve into it at first? It is advisable to keep off what you have no knowledge of. If you arent sure , Oba Ewuare II affirmed it on his coronation day ,that Oba was imported word to Edo land from Yoruba land . It is not contestable....As simple as ABC.

steveosaz:
The lies you people have told against this Oba is unbelievable.
Please where is the video where he said so?

Are you for real ? An event that there was a full coverage of his speech and you are here denying such? Goosh! Get stuck to the reality. You are just bias and not ready to accept the truth.

odigbosky:
Igodo was the first....but Obagodo was also an Ogiso.

Lie from the pit of hell again and again. Oba Ewuare II said during his coronation that Oba came through Yoruba land to EDOLAND . There was nothing like Obagodo. And the kingly appellation “Oba" was a foreign one. Where the hell did you get your own info from?

davidnazee:
This is really a stupid question.. how did the white man communicate with Africans when they came? They were still able to colonize us.

Izoduwa didn’t defeat Ife in one day. He lived amongst them for many years before he took over the throne.

You seem to be deluded with this your fantasy Island theory on Odua? Continue in your ignorance. Even your Oba Ewuare II could not be bold to infer his father's opinion anymore as regard the seat of Adimla(Olofin Odua) after his biological father was brainwashed that Ogiso descendant known as Izoduwa by some pseudo historians at Edo was Odua at ILE IFE.But submissively acknowledged Oranmiyan as his ancestor that was buried at ILE IFE, whose descendants reign as Ooni. We will continue to mock at your delusion and deceitful UDU/AKA/IGODOMIGODO tactics to take pseudo glory when such exist not. Little did people like you know that we gave you a Yoruba name that's called Ubinu–Ibinu–Bini that stuck with you till infinity. Isn't this enough for you to see the ILE IFE supremacy? Change such name first before you can engage Yoruba on true account of our cousin Omo N' Oba's history.

[quote author=odigbosky post=67176335][/quote]Absolutely untrue. Oranmiyan didn't met Adimula( Oduduwa) on throne,which knocked off your point. Secondly, naturally in the ancient IFE , after consultation of IFA , princes with pedigree lives to explore new ground and places,so did Oranmiyan and princes before he was even born. Such as Fagbamila Orangun Ila, Owu, Obokun, Olalomi etc . Secondly, Owomika couldn't have been killed because, where he( Oranmiyan) settled down were warriors who came with him from ILE IFE and protected the child as well as the loyalist Igodomigodo warriors. Thirdly, IFE beads existed before Bini's because Bini itself was a Yoruba captured enclave and introduction of Yoruba kingly system as well as genealogy record took firm root in Bini . And it was after Oranmiyan left before his grandson conquered the other stretch part of Aka/ Igodomigodo. Fourthly, Oranmiyan had to leave because IFA was the path to all Princes and other hunters migration to anywhere in Yorubaland. Lastly, below is the picture of excavated beads at Olokun site in ILE IFE,which dated back to over 1000 years ago.

Cheers

Moneywomen17:
the family of the guy in contention oduduwa where he became king and died and was buried said he is from oke-Ora but u who probably just heard of him from online say he is some foolish lost Benin prince. A lot of people distort history according to ur own ogiamen family of bini he said ur oba is a Yoruba migrant the bini historian that most of u try to shamelessly say his mother is Yoruba also buttress a lot of the things yoruba say. Ooni seats on the stool of oduduwa not the bini man so how is Ooni his son when the Ooni is the legitimate ruler of the seat of his father why the bini king is just ruling another stool which is not oduduwa own. Ur oba of bini came to ife and he was shown where his ancestors were buried including the first oba oranmiyan. This is ife not bini. Anyway am done arguing

Nice one ! I am even a direct patrilineal descendant of Oranmiyan. We are here to shot up liars. We aren't from Igodomigodo. Proudly of my ancestor called as Odua or Odudua,the worshiper of Eledumare.

Y0ruba:
You lie, Yoruba could tell a Bini from Yiibo. At max Yoruba in the pre & during 90s era referred to Bini people as ‘Bendelite’. Yoruba have always regarded Bini as cousins and that was & is still stupid of us for we are only related to your king & not the people.



You lie. Studies in History have shown that the Cocoa & other cash crops boom of the 70s/80s had its returns localized. In essence, the kings of each locale headed a board that amassed farm produce and sold them at agreed price. The goverment got taxes from this but the proceeds went into community developments under Kings - it was this way during colonial period with the supervision of District Officers and continued into 70s/80s under Kings until the Land Use Decree was promulgated. Your falsified 35% must have sunk into the pockets of the Oba Bini, proceeds did not go to the government other than tax.



Stop playing victim. Yoruba make comments and bask in their origins, you Bini do nothing but froth and begin to insult Yoruba while trying to force your narrative on others. Several Yoruba folks from way back like Katsumoto, Negro-Ntns, Obalufon, Macof & so on have posted verifiable facts but your rebuttals have been 1. Yoruba had a head start and have written rubbish. 2. Independent foreign researchers like Bradbury were influenced by Yoruba people. It was on this same Nairaland that a Bini nationalist-irredentist insulted Jacob Egharevba and claimed his mother was Oyo meanwhile his mother was of Edo origin and the Oba Bini at the time vetted his work before it was published.



Japan never ‘ruled’ China. It won a war against and occupied a bit of China. That is where it stops. You lot are less than 3 Million and you want to go against a peoples of over 20 Million with countries in Latin America & West Africa?



Nothing is setting. Yiibos invaded and tore Bini apart during civil war of ‘76. If Yiibos did it then, they can do it again; if Yoruba sons deflated Igbos who conquered you, guess what these Yoruba sons would do to you?

slight typography error on your path. Kindly do correction. It was 1967 civil war.
Cheers.

Y0ruba:
1. What you are quoting is Oyo’s history of Oduduwa. In as much as many Yoruba may identify with him, Oduduwa was and remains Ife’s business. He never lived anywhere else outside Ife, why Oyo of 14th century and everyone wants to draw up narratives about the man is quite disgusting. To the Ife people, Oduduwa lived among them and belonged to one of the communities in Ife. To Ife, he was an opportunist and usurper. A good number of compounds in Ife do not identify as ‘omo Oduduwa’. Oduduwa early history is IFE HISTORY not Yoruba’s history, please differentiate this.

2. Adetona is a revisionist. In Samuel Johnson, the old Ijebu king said an entirely different thing. Till today there is a compound in Ife from where Ijebu Ijesa from which Ijebu Ode & Ijebu Igbo progenitors emigrated. Ijebu Ijesa shares a lot of History & intense similarities with Ijebu Ode/Igbo - socially, culturally & politically. I will attach a picture of the recorded words of Awujale, his Balogun & the people of Ijebu in the 17th/18th century.

3. Awori never paid tributes to Olubini. Only the Eko king did. Awori had their own ruler in Olotto. The Awori let the Bini whom the Yoruba generally regard as ‘cousins’ (a stupid mistake people make till today) and do their thing while they carried on with their own stuff too. Eleko’s relevance stemmed from having the first contact with the Europeans given his locale; the same situation with Alaafin & Ooni; Olugbo & Amapetu etc.

I sight you!

Sagay212:
I knew this would cause a lot of problem fro some stup.id people. How does the existence of any oba at all affect your lives. IS any oba feeding anybody? Are you not an oba in your own house? the same obas that are getting free salaries from the government. some people just like to fight over useless issues. Instead of you people to be thinking of how buhari will be kicked out by all means possible in 2019, you are arguing about obas who don't know you exist.

Haaaaaa so you dont know? It means a lot to some of us because, one of our own generation( descendant) to come can become an Ooni. Mind you,we are hardworking people. This is the reaosn it mean a lot to some of us. And on PMB,ride on dear!

OBA EWUARE II OF BINI , ACKNOWLEDGED OONI OGUNWUSI AS SUPERIOR IN SPEECH.
He averred that the visit to Ife was to foster better understanding between the two kingdoms, even as he called for emphasis on what unites the Ife and Benin Kingdoms and prayed in the name of Oranmiyan for long life and prosperity for Ooni of Ife.

"I feel very much at home here, I pray that the spirit of our father Oranmiyan will always be with you as you manage this very sacred throne of Oduduwa very admirably.

Oh yes, I REMEMBER, THAT ILE IFE IS THE PLACE,WHERE THE SACRED THRONE OF ODUDUA IS!

prolog2:
So it is now a given that you can say anything. When contradicted by evidence you still deny, well carry on to your mental assylum. Almost every traditional ruler in nigeria was at that ceremony, so I guess that in your crazy mind the Oba of Benin is the "descendant and subject" of every traditional ruler in nigeria. And also the monarch of england is the "descnedant and subject" of every noble man who came to her corronation. Yoruba logics, seen nowhere else in this world.

You seem to have a problem and truth is as a shiny star. Oba Erediuwa came to ILE IFE over 37 years ago to looked at his ancestors heads buried in ILE IFE ,where their heads were buried,who the hell are you to infer opinion based on EMOTION?. As at Saturday ,Oba Bini still went to ILE IFE to bow down to his Ancestor throne . So what business of yours is it? Have you not seen or read what he Oba Ewuare said? Get off hate and pay homage to Yorubas.

Saladin25:
Common, am also a Yoruba person, but am a Nigerian first ahead of any ethnic/religion. Using that derogatory statement isn't okay. After I did all my findings about the origin of Oduduwa I realised, the Benin account is somehow right. If Oduduwa never came from Benin, the Chiefs of Benin wouldn't have picked Oranmiyan to come and become King after the Ogiso dynasty came to an end.

Just imaging this opinion from you,who had no known knowledge of Odudua yet you chose to follow a liars opinion. I pray for you not to be a victim of swindler (s) oooooo by God's grace . But wait up! Are you truly Yoruba? If you are,then it is no big deal if you dont know much Odudua but seek from the correct source. There is absolutely nothing right about Edo account. If you are interested in learning about Odudua. First, find out his lineage at ILE IFE. Secondly, find out if there is difference in ancestral method of worshipping God between Odudua has nothing in comparison with Edo's claim. Thirdly, why is Odudua adhere to white usage of clothing? Oooh ,you think Ooni Ogunwusi loved white or it is attached to Obatala? Am sorry for you if you allow fairy tales informants to sweep you off your feet. Edos account are filled with bunch of lies without proof. Please HELP us thank God because Oranmiyan was buried at ILE IFE ,otherwise, their LIES would have looked so REAL.

Moneywomen17:
i like the guy he acts like an intellectual but anybody that have half a brain can see through it. He says a lot of things then contradict himself next

To ‘act like an intellectual ' ,isnt the same as intellectual because , intellectuals may disagree on issues but not on true situation of things as clear as ABC. If this guy can pass out information based on assumption that is defamatory,which this said guy and others had done in the past and even used foul word on Ooni's stool, then he lacked being called an intellectual. You see, there are Odudua descendants everywhere and do have account of their history even if it has been long. These guys are filled with pride simply because, they don't feel comfortable seeing that Odudua descendant known as oranmiyan owns Oba Bini lineage. This was the reason they came up with all lies. This is my disagreement with many of his likes that detest the truth. These Edo should go and read the place where the Neck of previous Kings (Òorun Oba Ado) were buried. Oba Ewuare visited the place when he came to ILE IFE . So who are the liars on here? This is the reason, it is a futile mission to engage someone who know nothing apart from lies circulated online and used 'em as propaganda.

Moneywomen17:
lol I know u are a dumbass but I will indulge u see this is what happen oduduwa had kids the kids had kids and the kids had more kids So they are part of a long royal family that are all his descendants so part of this large family ifa chooses one to be king whenever a previous king dies. Do u get it now or do u want to act more foolish I know it’s fun for u.

Why waste your time on him? He does not know but claim to know. Just imagine, the trash ,he typed as ‘imaginery Oduduwa genealogy,' yet he has nothing to link Odua to Edo apart from Oba Bini lineage through Oranmiyan. Even Ogiso,did not have any name linked to ‘Ora—Oran talkless of Adimla ,which was Odu to da uwa bore as his other name. It is better you keep away from such personality that are bent on distortion of ancestral connection of Owoka(Eweka) descendants to ILE IFE.

usibengate:
My brother just ask any Yoruba person a simple question, where he or she comes from he will tell you from the Sky. U can tell of a race or a nation that knows nothing about his origin, but telling you about others, their Aborigine.


A simple question for the Yoruba, go asked His Majesty Ooni of Ife where his forefather Oduduwa which is also called Ekelederan is from?

‘ Ekelederan' has no meaning in Yoruba language and does not exist amidst the descendants of Ooni Odua, starting from Ila Orangun, Ajaka(second Alaafin) Oniketu, Popo, Owu, Alaakè, Obokun etc but Edo claiming otherwise . How does a meaningless name in Yoruba be their king's name? The most senior male descendant of Odua was and is Ila Orangun and does associate with Bini on this falsification. And if you are looking for Ekelederan, the place where he was buried is at Ughotan. This is the rightful place to visit. Have you forgotten, we gave you (Edos) knowledge of Fabric production? In fact, Aso Oke , is your ancient traditional attire in which the Oba Bini patrilineal ancestor and his followers brought from ILE IFE to Edo.....