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Religion / Re: Is It Rational To Believe In Afterlife [A Discussion] by onetrack(m): 12:38pm On Aug 12, 2016 |
johnydon22: Depends on if the negative consequences of believing a lie are greater than the benefits. In any case, life after death cannot be disproven so I don't think that it can be considered necessarily a lie. I would absolutely argue that believing a lie can be better in some cases than dealing with the truth. Someone in a very fragile mental state, for example, might not be told the truth about something because the consequences would be extremely negative for that person. |
Religion / Re: Is It Rational To Believe In Afterlife [A Discussion] by onetrack(m): 7:52am On Aug 12, 2016 |
johnydon22: Well one could say that there is 'internally rational' and 'externally rational'. I'd argue that believing in life after death is 'internally rational' because it reduces anxiety; however it lacks 'external rationality'. I've borrowed this from the scientific principles of internal and external validity. An analogy to make my point: a crazy person takes off all their clothes and walks in the street naked. We've all seen this before. It is not rational to the people around him because social codes do not permit nudity and he brings shame upon himself, therefore it is externally irrational. However, when asked why he is naked, he says that his clothing burns his skin and therefore he cannot wear them. This is internally rational because this would be proper behavior to the individual doing the act because it is what you should do if you are in contact with something that burns. This is what I mean. Believing in an afterlife with zero proof may seem irrational to the skeptic, but if it reduces stress for the individual then it is rational. |
Religion / Re: Is It Rational To Believe In Afterlife [A Discussion] by onetrack(m): 9:28pm On Aug 11, 2016 |
I am atheist, however I concede that it could be considered rational to believe in an afterlife IF it reduces your stress level and makes you feel better. However if this belief causes you to engage in behavior harmful to yourself then it is not rational. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Why Atheists Can Never Understand God's Way by onetrack(m): 7:41am On Aug 10, 2016 |
winner01:No, I don't lie well enough to be a preacher. |
Religion / Re: PHOTO: Pandamodium As Crucifix Bleeds In Benue by onetrack(m): 7:45am On Aug 09, 2016 |
petra1: Or tested for food colouring. |
Religion / Re: Help! I Am Being Mistaken For A Muslim by onetrack(m): 7:47pm On Aug 07, 2016 |
[quote author=mdokaba1 post=48274607][/quote] I do have a Christian name, that is true. |
Religion / Re: Does An Atheist Have A Soul? by onetrack(m): 7:46pm On Aug 07, 2016 |
shadeyinka: I do not see the flaw in what I wrote. Damaging the brain can have profound consequences for people's personality; this has been observed. Damage the frontal lobe and the person becomes someone else. |
Religion / Re: Does An Atheist Have A Soul? by onetrack(m): 3:36pm On Aug 07, 2016 |
shadeyinka: I disagree. The soul is the output of the brain's construction. Alter the construction and the soul changes. At least, that is how I see it. |
Religion / Re: Does An Atheist Have A Soul? by onetrack(m): 1:36pm On Aug 07, 2016 |
shadeyinka: Yes, and observations of brain injuries and the resulting personality changes would be cited as evidence of that. |
Religion / Re: Help! I Am Being Mistaken For A Muslim by onetrack(m): 1:30pm On Aug 07, 2016 |
I have the same problem: people assume I am Christian when I am atheist. If I don't feel like creating a problem then I just smile and go along. If I am in a more combative mood then I tell them straight away I am atheist. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Does An Atheist Have A Soul? by onetrack(m): 12:49am On Aug 07, 2016 |
Atheists are monists; that is, we generally believe that the mind is a product of the body, and that death of the body is also death of the 'soul'. However I'd guess that most atheists would say that they cannot prove this. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: The Ultamate Question To The Atheist. by onetrack(m): 12:55pm On Aug 06, 2016 |
exco90: You seem to be confirming that atheism is a valid point of view since no one can do the task you ask, therefore you are saying that there is no answer. |
Religion / Re: Points To Ponder Upon-Non-Muslims Especially Atheists And Christians! by onetrack(m): 8:13pm On Aug 01, 2016 |
Contact17: The amusing thing about this appears in the verse prior: "And He placed on the earth firmly set mountains over its surface, and He blessed it and determined therein its [creatures'] sustenance in four days without distinction - for [the information] of those who ask. Then He turned to the heaven" So Allah is saying that the earth was created BEFORE the heavens, which is in direct contradiction to the accepted theory that the universe is older than the earth. This is a scientific error in the Quran. The Quran then goes on to say that the stars are protection--against what and how?
Sorry, the Quran has many scientific errors. If you claim that science isn't always correct, I agree; but to say that the Quran is always correct, I completely disagree because I see the errors plainly. I have read the entire Quran and I am satisfied that it is man made. Muhammad may have been illiterate (there is a hadith implies that he could write), but he was not stupid, and he had traveled quite a bit and talked with a lot of people in his life, including educated people from Rome and Persia, so that by the time he was 40 he had quite a bit of some of the accepted scientific knowledge of the day, even if some if it turned out to be wrong (Galen's theory of embryology for example). 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Points To Ponder Upon-Non-Muslims Especially Atheists And Christians! by onetrack(m): 9:24am On Aug 01, 2016 |
lexiconkabir: Actually the author of the Quran says that only Allah knows its true meaning, therefore all of it, however it says that some verses are clear, but does not say which ones. So I guess we are left to guess whatever is meant by it and what proportion is unclear. Interestingly, the tafsir Ibn Kathir says that scholars cannot agree over whether or not the verse should read "And no one knows its [true] interpretation except Allah and those who are firmly grounded in knowledge..." or if it should be read "And no one knows its [true] interpretation except Allah. And those who are firmly grounded in knowledge..." So maybe 3:7 itself is one of those unclear verses that people should not try to explain. Very convoluted and confusing. You live in conplications? Do you find it hard to get fresh air? Is it always hot throughout the year? A quick question – you sound llke you subscribe to the evolution theory, do you? Humans cannot live anywhere on earth, such as at the polar regions or under the oceans (yet). I absolutely subscribe to the theory of evolution as being the only current valid explanation for the diversity of species. |
Religion / Re: Points To Ponder Upon-Non-Muslims Especially Atheists And Christians! by onetrack(m): 9:10am On Aug 01, 2016 |
Contact17: The little 'science' that is in the Quran comes from torturing the verses until they appear to say what you want them to. This is the same with any other religious text. I've read the Quran and looked at the claims made about science, and have seen more errors than true facts. We don't need to go over them again, I'm comfortable in rejecting these claims. |
Religion / Re: Points To Ponder Upon-Non-Muslims Especially Atheists And Christians! by onetrack(m): 7:38am On Aug 01, 2016 |
lexiconkabir: I'm simply quoting the Quran, which says that only Allah understands its true meaning. This necessarily means that no one else does, including Muslims.
I think that physics and chemistry can explain this quite well. In any case, humans do not live here without complications, life was actually quite difficult until modern scientists figured out ways to improve our survival. And there are still lots of complications. And in terms of evolution, humans evolved in response to the environment which explains why we exist in the form that we do and why we survive on earth. |
Religion / Re: Points To Ponder Upon-Non-Muslims Especially Atheists And Christians! by onetrack(m): 7:31am On Aug 01, 2016 |
masseratti: I apply Occam's razor to this. Books are written by people, this is provable and knowable. I have never seen a book from a source other than people. Therefore I presume that all books are written by people. The Quran is no exception; there is nothing unusual about it as a book. |
Religion / Re: Points To Ponder Upon-Non-Muslims Especially Atheists And Christians! by onetrack(m): 9:01pm On Jul 31, 2016 |
lexiconkabir: But the sentence still stands that only Allah understands much (all) of the Quran. Which means that a lot of it is useless to people and would only serve to cause division. Notice that Allah does not conveniently specify exactly which verses are clear and which ones are not.
I am an existentialist, so I find my own meaning. But there is no inherent purpose to life that I have been able to determine through empirical testing. |
Religion / Re: Points To Ponder Upon-Non-Muslims Especially Atheists And Christians! by onetrack(m): 8:40pm On Jul 31, 2016 |
In 3:7 we read: The next sentence in that same verse is also important: "And no one knows its [true] interpretation except Allah." Well then it's useless to even argue because no one, not even Muhammad, knows its true interpretation. So everyone is free to interpret as they see fit, including me, a non-believer. Life is like a multiple choice exam. If you pick the wrong choices throughout the exam, you will be punished. If you pick the right choices throughout the exam, you will be rewarded! The exam is going to be very difficult and it will have many tricks in it to test you. If the Quran or the universe were presented with clear, 100% proof of certainty in God's existence, then everyone believes in the Quran and in God. But the whole test is pointless. He has no need to test anyone, he is god after all and can do whatever he wants. Testing us seems like a silly game for someone who has no need for it. And if we fail we don't just get punished, we get our skin roasted off. Allah is worse than Hitler or Stalin. The whole thing sounds like a scam to me. 6 Likes 2 Shares |
Religion / Re: Do Miracles Still Exist?, Do Angels Still Assist Humans? by onetrack(m): 2:49pm On Jul 31, 2016 |
Vicoch: He should go to a major western medical center and show that he can make a hand regrow over there. |
Religion / Re: A Message For Those Who Still Deceive Themselves Believing In Religion by onetrack(m): 2:47pm On Jul 31, 2016 |
winner01: I am here to help people of faith clarify their beliefs. If this means that they leave their religion then great. |
Religion / Re: A Message For Those Who Still Deceive Themselves Believing In Religion by onetrack(m): 10:21am On Jul 31, 2016 |
winner01: The religion section can include any topic related to religion, which also includes arguments against it. The section is not entitled, "Pro-Religion". I actually have no problem with religious preaching or missionary work, since the marketplace of ideas should be open to everyone's point of view, but this also means that I should be able to call out a scam if I think I see one. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Religion / Re: A Message For Those Who Still Deceive Themselves Believing In Religion by onetrack(m): 9:16am On Jul 31, 2016 |
Mafizo: Let the Christians keep their Christianity to themselves as well. No TV preaching, no missionary workers, etc. Until then, no deal. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Religion / Re: The Dream Of President Lincoln Has A Question For Atheists! by onetrack(m): 9:10am On Jul 31, 2016 |
Lincoln had many enemies because of the Civil War, thus he was well aware that his life was in danger. He often did not even sleep in the White House because of the threats to his life, and he is the first US president to have a full-time bodyguard. Thus a dream about getting assassinated would be expected. |
Religion / Re: Atheists Pls Identify Your Leaning Here. ID Yourself Properly by onetrack(m): 12:43am On Jul 31, 2016 |
naijadeyhia: My identity is fine thanks. I am all of those without difficulty. |
Religion / Re: Atheists Pls Identify Your Leaning Here. ID Yourself Properly by onetrack(m): 8:02pm On Jul 30, 2016 |
I am 1,2,3 and 4 of the above categories. |
Religion / Re: UNBELIEVABLE! DISGRACEFUL! Nairaland Atheists see nothing wrong with Bestiality by onetrack(m): 12:22pm On Jul 25, 2016 |
I don't think bestiality should be illegal but I personally find it disgusting. In any case it is quite rare and few people engage in it, so it isn't really worth making a big deal out of. I suppose it is wrong if the animal suffers. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Religion / Re: Prophet Mohammed(pbuh) : 9 Healthy Habits That Science Later Proved by onetrack(m): 1:38pm On Jul 21, 2016 |
Presbulg: It's quite possible that I, an atheist, know more about Islam than you. And why would I want a 'total way of life' told to me by ancients? I do quite well on my own, thank you. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Scientists' Comments On Scientific Miracles In The Quran by onetrack(m): 12:17pm On Jul 21, 2016 |
Just be aware that there is no evidence that "Tejatat Tejasen" even exists. Also Dr. Hay has declared on video that he does not see anything miraculous about the Quran. Look on youtube and you will see it. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Prophet Mohammed(pbuh) : 9 Healthy Habits That Science Later Proved by onetrack(m): 11:43am On Jul 21, 2016 |
Presbulg: Muhammad was the founder of Islam. He simply attached it to Jewish and Christian traditions in order to claim that he was continuing their religions. Nothing more. And Muhammad may have been illiterate (conflicting evidence), but that does not mean he was isolated from the world around him. He clearly learned a lot by the time he was 40. 4 Likes |
Religion / Re: Prophet Mohammed(pbuh) : 9 Healthy Habits That Science Later Proved by onetrack(m): 9:58am On Jul 21, 2016 |
Buddha said most of this a thousand years before Muhammad. Also a number of Greek and Roman philosophers recognized this as well. None of this was new information. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Evils of The Evolution Theory by onetrack(m): 9:49pm On Jul 20, 2016 |
lordnicklaus: Well, the entire body of biological research is based on the theory of evolution so it appears that most biologists still 'use' the theory. |
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