₦airaland Forum

The problem is kind of complex, but I would advise this group to get in contact with MASSOB and MEND asap.

After that, they (together with MASSOB and MEND) should demand that members of the national assembly from the west and east respectively should go home and begin a process of consultation that should bolster this effort.

The whole world must be wondering why this call from the west didn't come earlier.

AOKOYA said the militant group, [size=14pt]Boko Haram is a direct product of the stifling and malicious character of the Nigerian state which specializes in muzzling public opinion with bullets and does not encourage public demonstrations nor deep expression of the traditionally ethnic propelled political forces that are usually isolated from decision making. [/size]The statement was signed by Olumide Ahmed Bakar and Oritsebigbemi Isaac of NO 15B, Block 4, Aje House, Ibadan, Oyo State

I totally agree with the bolded.

Every time the Nigerian state violently represses dissent, it steals the future hope and aspirations of Nigerians.
Intelligent and wise Nigerians must strongly reject violent repressions of political opinions in Nigeria.
A revolution in Nigeria is impossible without us dragging mass murderers in government to the ICC at The Hague.

^

My brother let them go already! lol

belabela:
Let's pray that the president will not be the one to receive the shocker!

Una go wound pesin for nairaland.

This attack on this Catholic church is CLEARLY an attack on Igbos. Simple.
The attackers may have a motive to provoke Igbos and create a huge backlash to achieve whatever they hope, but FACTS ARE FACTS.

I am VERY ANGRY that a church has become another graveyard for Igbos in Northern Nigeria. 

Everything else is irrelevant.

@Ezeuche,

Okay, it is a Christian issue. lol

Ndigbo si na, egbe nkanka nku abughi nwa egbe, maka na o mara ihe di iche na okuko na obogwu. -
A tattered winged kite must be an old kite, hence it knows the difference between a chic and a duckling!

The perpetrators of this act are old kites! They know what they are doing. 
Now, I may agree that we must not back ourselves into a corner by making it an Igbo thing. It is not an Igbo thing already, but we are the ones dying more in them now. So, we can decide to hide under a general Christian canopy, or decide that enough is enough. The whole world knows that truth now.

I want to congratulate Gbawe for "winning". I won't say more than that.

I also want to thank the Mods for allowing me to come second! 

Most importantly, I want to thank my numerous supporters here. I used to believe that truth is a very lonely orphan. I never knew that truth has many friends.

When I started posting here, I was convinced that I would be alone, and I was for a very loooooooooooong time.
This poll only proves to me that Nigerians can be reached, even with cold hard truth. We are not as bad as folks think! 

I want to thank Beaf [/b]for endorsing me and channeling his voters to my corner. 
@[b]Beaf, we are essentially saying the same here, I believe that folks are taking note. 

Finally, IMHO, I believe I won the more important poll this year.

Long live Nairaland!

Long live Nigerians!

Signing off,

Yours truly,

Onlytruth, Ndu di n'eziokwu 1 of Igboland, Eze Ndigbo Nairaland. 

@manny

I understand you more now. You are taking sense bro.

ak47mann:
Israeli is with us 24/7, when the right time come,they will assist

I frankly hope and pray that we can get them to support us if a war comes.
We would need them badly.

manny4life:
While I do not support total use of LOCAL weapons, however, I don't think that option should be ruled out either. I mean, I support modernizing local weaponry to add to your MODERN stockpile inventory will go a long way. Have you ever considered a "What If" scenario; if there are no international allies willing to stand by us? I mean, there are suppliers of modern weaponry, but is that really enough? Me personally, there's more preparation to weapons and allies. Remember, wars are not fought by weapons ONLY, but by STRATEGY.

If we don't get a SOLID INTERNATIONAL support, we mustn't ever go to war. Simple.
That lesson is very clear from the last civil war; infact in my own book, that was the ONLY reason Biafra failed.
Our local production can never be enough to win a fast war. While we were busy researching and developing, Aboki and their allies were busy gaining grounds at the battle field.
One account almost brought tears to my eyes; the Biafran army had a Nigerian army battalion under Col Etuk surrounded in Owerri. For a long time, the Biafrans couldn't finish them off because they lacked the HEAVY WEAPONS to do so: tanks and armed personnel carriers, aircrafts, long range artillery pieces, missiles. The Nigerians escaped, though badly bruised. They later came back to recapture Owerri again.
Riffles, and guns can't win wars. Heavy weapons do.
Ndigbo MUST NEVER attempt another war without ensuring a limitless supply of those weapons. QED.

dayokanu:
This is no attack on any specific ethnic group it was aimed at Xtians simple regardless of where they are from

They bombed an MFM church which I believe would be populated by Yorubas.

Do you think Boko Haram cares whether the xtian killed is Ibo, Yoruba, Ijaw, or Berom?

Firstly, did they bomb MFM?
If yes, which one?

Obiagu1, please contact me by email. Thanks.

Oba234:
RIP to the victims, but I am not surprised they were Igbos. I actually said the same thing when I heard of the bombings. Everybody knows Igbo and catholicism goes hand in hand. All Nigerians that I know that are Catholic are Igbos so not suprising. Now if it had been RCCG or Winners where Yoruba people typically go, most of the casualties would have been Yoruba. Please, i don't think this is an attack on Igbo people.

Una logic jump dey give me heartburns, chai! 

So, all Nigerians you know that Catholics are Igbo, yet you don't think this attack is on Igbo people?
Na wa. 

Relax101:
Idiots like OYB and Rhino will be the happiest human beings on earth.
When the east starts, they will be the set of ediots to shout.
The other fool amongst them will ask for proof of genocide.
I wonder if Nigeria still at war with the people of the south east.
This barbaric act should be condemned.

The most annoying thing about those people is that they would be the first to accuse you of "spreading hate".
Once we are dying without speaking out, they are happy.
God will punish those ediiots.

I honestly believe that oburu na agbaghi uzo owelle mgba, odighi echi.
The sooner Ndigbo realize that the better our chance of survival in Nigeria.

Their "crime" was that they were Igbo, and went to church in Northern Nigeria on Christmas day.
Let history reflect that.

List of the victims of December 25 bomb blast at St Theresa’s Catholic Church Madalla
From Our reporter
Friday December 30, 2011

Sun News Publishing



Madalla bomb blast victims at the national hospital
Anthony Okoronkwo
Comrade Dike A. Williams
Emmanuel Dike
Richard Dike
Lilian Dike
Lynda Chioma Ubiukwu
Uche Queen Obiukwu
Chidinma Cynthia Obiukwu
Linderlin Ifeoma Obiukwu
Ann-Chinedu Aigbadon
Chiemeri Nwachukwu
Cecilia Ebeku
Oluebube Faustina Pius

Chidera Sylvia Pius
Florence Nwachukwu
Eucharia Ewoh
Joseph Daniel
Inspector Titus Eze
Obasi Jonathan Onyebuchi
Ehiawaguan Peter
Uche Esiri
Sgt. Kadiri Danjuma
Paulina Koju
Chukwudi Umeh
Christiana Kadiri
Esther Agbo
David Agbo
Helen Okolo
Mercy Agbo
John Agbo
Obiukwu Uche Stella
Ebuka Abuyi
Celestine Aniowo
Michael Sunday
Lucy Unji
Chiamaka Obiukwu
Favour Dike
Chimaobi Dike
Favour Egbo
Maria Obodugo
Kosisochukwu Egbo
Nzubechukwu Pius
Obodo Linus
Austin Ogbuagu
Chuks Ajuwe
Esther Ibu
Blessing Philip
Isaac Ibu
Kenedilins Aloysus
Madalla bomb blast victims at specialist hospital, Gwagwalada
Innocent Okoronkwo (Intensive Unit)
Chima Ohazurume
Justina Uche
Chinyere Amaechi
Ifeanyi Emenaha
Fidelia Onugwu
Chinyere Anthony
Sadiq Idris
Onyinye Peace Eneh
Clara Umozor
Pauline Okoronkwo
Uche Bonaventure
Uche Michael
Lawal Abubakar
Victor James.
Victims at general hospital, Suleja
Owen Sylvester
Dalamin Isah (Passer-by)
Ali Sani (Passer-by)
Victim at major hospital Kwamba
Edeh Christiana
Victims at delight hospital Suleja
Roseline Okeke
Chisom Eucharia Okoye
Victims at Suzan hospital, Suleja
Chukwuebuka Obiakor
Jennifer Obiakor
Chidera Obiakor
Batrice Otogo
Victims at daughters of charity, Kubwa
Oliver Ogbonna
Remy Ofoha
Francis Rapheal
Victims at diamond Crest hospital, Zuba
Gabriel Christiana
Michael Nwanze
Achunike Okolo
Favour
Ugochukwu
Nzube Pius

http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/features/newsonthehour/2011/dec/30/newsbreak-30-12-2011-001.html

A rough scan through the list shows that the victims were about 98% Igbo.

[size=16pt]List of Madalla blast victims released[/size]

Vanguard Newspaper

Below is a list of victims of the Xmas bombing at St. Theresa Catholic Church, Madalla, Niger State.

Anthony Okoronkwo, Comrade Dike A. Williams, Emmanuel Dike, Richard Dike, Lillian Dike, Linda Chioma Obiukwu, Uche Q. Obiukwu, Chindinma Cythia Obiukwu, Ifeoma G. Obiukwu, Ann Chinedu Aigbadon, Chiemeri Nwachukwu, Cecilia Ebeku, Oluebube Faustina Pius, Chidera Sylvia Pius, Florence Nwachukwu, Eucharia Ewoh, Joseph Daniel,Inspector Titus Eze, Obasi Jonathan Onyebuchi, Ehiawaguan Peter,    Uche Esiri,    Sgt. Kadiri Danjuma, Unidentified person (5)

Victims at the National Hospital
Paulina Koju, Chukwudi Umeh, Christiana Kadiri, Esther Agbo,    David Agbo,    Hellen Okolo, Mercy Agbo, John Agbo, Obiukwu Uche Stella, Ebuka Abuyi, Celestine Aniowo, Michael Sunday, Lucy Unji,    Chiamaka Obiukwu, Favour  Dike, Chimaobi Dike, Favour Agbo,    Maria Obodugo,Kosisochukwu Egbo, Nzubechukwu Pius, Obodo Linus, Austin Ogbugu, Chuks Ajuwe, Esther Ibu, Blessing Philip, Isaac  Ibu, Kenedilim Aloysius.

Some of those who died in the blast.

Specialists Hospital Gwagwalada
Innocent Okoronkwo (Intensive Unit), Chima Ohazurume, Justina Uche, Chinyere Amaechi, Ifeanyi Emenaba,    Fidelia Onugwu, Chinyere Anthony,     Sadiq Idris, Onyinyi Peace Eneh, Clara Iwuozor, Pauline Okoronkwo, Uche Bonaventure, Uche Michael,  Lawal Abubakar,     Victor James.

General Hospital Suleja
Owen Sylvester, Danlamin Isah (passer-by), Ali Sani (passer-by)

Major Hospital Kwamba
Edeh Christiana

Delight Hospital Suleja
Roseline Okeke, Chisom Eucharia Okoye

Suzan Hospital Suleja
Chukwuebuka Obiakor, Jenifer Obiakor, Chidera Obiakor, Beatrice Otogo.

Daughter of Charity Kubwa
Oliver Ogbona, Remmy Ofoha, Francis Raphael

Diamond Crest Hospital Zuba
Gabriel Christiana, Michael Nwanze, Achunike Okolo, Fvaour,    Ugochukwu, Nzube Pius

State House Clinic Abuja
Uche Thaddeus, Tanko Mpan,    Lucy Wumi,    Unknown

Lucas Hospital Madalla
Dominic Mbeng,     Agnes Justin Wadzani, Samuel Eze, Ugwu Calistus,    Raphael Okoro.

Solace Hospital Suleja
Jane Francis Mmadunacho, Unknown

General Hospital Kubwa
PC  Ibrahim Gaita.

ndu_chucks:
@olodo wise[/b]stein  noting do you.   

[b]ndu_chucks, I like your new mutation! 

Olodostein:
I am not trying to insinuate that Northerners are well behaved than Southerners. What I am saying is they seem to be more collected and organised than us. Also, when it comes to integrity and being contented with what they have, they score better than us. It is common knowledge in Nigeria.

The foundation of Nigeria was built under the premise of US vs THEM mentality. What you have to put into context is that illteracy + religious fanaticsm = Destruction and Death. Whenever there is slight misunderstanding, they initiate riots by acting on instinct and killing innocent people indiscrimately. I don't know if it is a deliberate policy by Northern Elites to keep their lower class brothers uneducated. So that they can be able to use them as voilent Robots to push their selfish political agendas. I find it shocking that many of them do not understand and cannot even read the language their holy book is written in( Arabic). Mind you that even the Arabs that these people idolize consider them to be inferior,blind followers and refer to them as "abeed",meaning slave in Arabic. They only memorise the words being sang to them in their religious schools and act without REASON what they are told by their superiors; which may include that the christians or southerners including southern muslims -whom the northerners consider and refer to as fake muslims ;meaning barebe in local Hausa dialect - are our sworn enemy. Do we have to act the way they do? No. Because on average, we are more educated and tolerant. We understand the language of our holy book, can speak it and Reason it, because we have a mind of our own. We don't go out and start killing innocent people indiscrimately becuase our clergyman says so; we question their ulterior motive. But when pushed to the bitter edge, we act by going after the very root of the problem,hence, what ushered in the Biafran war. We are calculative and patient, but we are not cowards. During those riots, we do challenge them back in self defence in their home turf.

You made a very good points. Nigeria was a fraud to begin with and it shouldn't surprise anyone that it has been this way for decades. It is my understanding that Nnamdi Azikiwe was the dullest man albeit educated amongst them three. He was very short sighted and bambozled by the British promising him a utopian world. What Ahmadu Bello did was copying from the playbook of his colonial master; of which the most effective was Divide and Rule tactics. I won't squarely lay the blames on the British. But we have to accept the fact that they played a prominent role in sowing the seed of distrust amongst us. Since they are the author of the Divide and Rule tactic, they masterfully played it well and it has worked perfectly for them. They knew the potential of newly discovered oil in Southern Nigeria. This is the game they played for their own INTEREST. Creat division amongst Southerners. Give support to the Northerners to accumulate power to do their bidding for them. Because if Southerners were at the helm of affairs, they would demand more equitable share;since the resources is on their land.

Consequently, the chickens have come home to roost. The political fat cats are fighting among themselves. The Northerners are slowing loosing power and their elites are seen as very corrupt by their lower class brothers. That is why Gen Buhari enjoys considerable support and following in that region. I was in Kano during the presidential election. The Northern elites were attacked and some of their houses burnt. They have failed their own people. If northern lower class is sympathetic to BH, it is as a result of years of neglect just like the MEND sprung up. But BH has taken it TOO far by trying to create panic at all cost and initiate a religious conflict. BH will practically fail.

There is a huge political infighting going on. We Eastern Nigeria that have been long kept away from the corridors of federal power as you put it should just be neutral in this case and keep watching closely like Dokita's. If we try to take the lead at this juncture, we could be ganged up against like in 1966. Who knows, we might emerge as the most capable by our neutrality and Rochas could suffice. On average, we are doing fine individually because we work hard. If the Nigeria quagmire reach the point of no return; then we can act swiftly and this time, there will be no going back. 

Yes, internal security is intertwined with Justice at home. But come to think of it, if we had strong and competent internal security agencies, many lives would have been saved. Do you know how many terrorist plots have been unconvered by these foreign security agencies? Why hasn't there been a major terrorist attack against them for years now? But in Nigeria , the army have literally taken over internal security and doing the work of the police and others. Their main duty is to protect and safeguard the national soverighty of the nation. In fact, they are the most credible institution in Nigeria. They are called in at any slight disturbance. The day there is a Huge crack in the military; Anarchy will rain in and then you can kiss the Nigeria you know a very painful bye bye because there will be a lot of bloodshed before everything settles down.

Regarding umemployed youths, anaylsing the chronic aspects of the Nigerian economy- and those that control bulk of it- that negatively affects 90% of us is a different ball game altogether. we will leave that for another thread.

You have tabled issues concretely and passionately. It is refreshing to engage with Nigerians who think of "We" instead of "I".  For the most part, I am not an obstructionist. Just being pragmatic about things in general. I adhere to the school of thought known as Pragmatism which states that "what works is true" and that "the validity of an action is as a result of its consequences".

Udo diri gi Eze Ndigbo Nairaland.

Powerfully endorsed!

You're very welcome, ezigbo nwa Igbo.

This thread is about to descend into local stuff. I would hate that.
Please back to topic @ all

dayokanu:
Now put another spin to it or tell another lie to cover up for GEJ who rejected calls for SNC himself

I don't know when some of you would understand that the NORTH won the civil war and is determined to maintain whatever it won.
Can you show me where AREWA called for that conference?

I would say it again, the NORTH will call for the conference BEFORE Jonathan takes note of such call and support it.

Now, next time you boast of your uncle and "his exploits" during the war, bear this bold fact in mind. lol

dayokanu:
Has GEJ initiated calls for a SNC which the North rejected?

Why call for what he knows would be rejected?
The North will call for it, with time.

mikeansy:
BTW Rochas Okorocha is my Governor, without talking him down; the fact is the man is definitely a populist and welfarist. Are his ideas sustainable? only time will tell.

I don't know if he is very sophisticated politically. I might be wrong though.

I started respecting Rochas after the PDP presidential convention in 2007 (or so). He almost won! lol.
He may be a populist and welfarist, but APGA is not. His political skills are what matters in this process.

APGA has a manifesto, and it can be "upgraded" to appeal to more people outside of SE, but still maintain strong Igbo cultural values. We Ndigbo believe in the golden rule, and every human being believes in it too. So, it can sell if marketed by a savvy politician.

Ekwueme can bring his clout and influence to convince the "nnukwu mmanwus (big masquerades) of Igboland to join APGA and move it forward. Other tribes won't join until those big men join. I doubt that Ekwueme would ever join APGA though. I could be wrong.

GEJ must continue in office until the North agrees to a Sovereign National Conference.
I don't care how long that takes.

kettykin:
@ poster TA orji's threads should be opened,

if the igbos dont do there home work now, what happens if the big countries in their usual antics decide not back any side or to make the matters worse throw their weight behind BH backed Government (with the feeble excuse that they dont want a divided Nigeria)

The best is to start early preparations and hope to get external Collaborations

Note that I have a key word in my post, which is "depend". We must not depend on local production of arms because it failed us woefully in the past. There is no evidence that it would fair any better today.

Of course you are right that we must do some local work, and there is A LOT of such local work.
What I would NEVER support is another war by us without any SOLID BIG POWER supporting us.
I would NEVER support that.

kettykin:
The SE should not only keep quiet , The SE should start preparing for a long and gruesome war. [/b]The SE for instance through their state universities fund researches into advanced food processing and storage, conversion and manufacturing of artificial proteins , very reliable long distance microwave communication , advanced air defence system (modernising the ogbunigwes) e.t.c

What is heppening in Nigeria now is similar in cntext to what happened before the secong coup in 1966. [b]silence should be the watch word but there should behing the scene preparations.

Both bolded supported strongly.
I do not support depending on LOCAL weapons research and development for any future conflict. That is one bitter lesson from the civil war we must not repeat. We need INTERNATIONAL allies and suppliers of modern weapons.
My eyes are still on Israel.

boy t:
Why Nigeria must not divide now. from the resent development, it look like only the Ibos are strong enough,
even without ; Oil money , federal contracts, or jobs in the military or multinational coporations. Ibos on the average level
will survive without a help. But the Yoruba's and Hausa's need a united and corrupt Nigeria for their existence.
May be the Ibo's should wait for their bros/sisters in the west and north to be self reliance.

My friend, just make sure you state your ethnicity before making the bolded statements.
If you are Igbo, just know that the only Nigerian ethnic group still keeping us (Ndigbo) in Nigeria is the Hausa/Fulani.
No other tribe is relevant.

@quid

That is why I am a STRONG supporter of GEJ, and I would even want him to continue past 2015.  
His being there would force the North to discuss things it has adamantly refused to discuss for many years.

My only advice to Southerners in the North is that they should leave the North. That's all.

EzeUche:
We must admit that we have learned this tactic from a certain group. 

Nwanne we have no choice! 

quid:
I have been posting this severally:

The 9-step mission of Boko Haram -->

1) The North feels that they have lost grip of the gains of their victory in the civil war.

2) They cant stand Goodluck Ebele [/b]Jonathan being president and surrounding himself with SE, SS and SW influential ministers and military personnel.

3) They start making noise about the laws of Allah and how we MUST all be subject to them.

4) Boko Haram appears, destroying lives and property in the North, FIGHTING FOR ALLAH.

5) Reprisal attacks against Northerners take place in the SE, SS and SW. . . [b]a much needed part of the plan.

6) Pogroms [/b]take place in the North, directed at SE, SS and SW infidels that do not believe in Allah.

7) Anarchy reigns everywhere, more reprisal attacks against Northerners in the SS, SE and SW.

8.) A military [b]coup [/b]takes place, led by a junior Northern military officer, ousting the govt of GEJ. Mediocrity reigns once more.

9) The North [b]reclaims [/b]is hold on money/power . . .[b]MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. . .

Guy, you be real genius! You spoke my mind kpom kwem!

omniexprex:
Golden silence. SE is wiser now than before.

mikeansy:
Boko Haram and the North are already doing enough destroying Nigeria, nothing unites the rest of the country than the voice of the Igbo man. Let us take the back seat and let the wickedness of these people be obvious to the rest of the world.

If anything all I will expect from South East Governors is to encourage Igbos in the North to come back home and start a new life. Thats about it.

We are doing just fine. They are already digging a hole for themselves. There is no need engaging a drowning man in a fight!!!

Excellent post!